Guild Wars 2

Great post to help people who are unfamiliar with WvW get an idea of what is helpful to a server

Mogrey.3891:

yesterday was so unplayable for me in ag’s match up against sfr and riverside. was so annoying we were trying to capture sm and couldn’t even use my skills. trying to drop trap no use elite no use poison valley no use change weapon nope. nothing only 11111111.

This is exactly why I prefer passive regen healing skills over a button click required one. No matter how laggy and skills not firing off… i’ll still always have regen up which liekly gives me a slight edge over my opponent who is hammering his keyboard hoping a skill pops off.

The wierd thing i find is … why does auto attack even work in that scenario. Every other skill does the flashing (like it may trigger but doesn’t activate) yet hammering 1 works still even in lag infested conditions? does anyone know? I would have assumed attack #1 would fail just as #2 – #5 fail.

The surplus of siege already in the game is over the top… having the ability to share siege between opposing forces (in your tower capture example) … would mean there would be more useless prints that no one can get rid of.

I wouldn’t mind this if we also had some other form of a gold sink/badge sink to get rid of our already useless badges of honor.

I think it’s a neat concept but doubt it will garner much support. But good on you for thinking outside the box. In the open field , I think it would be hilarious (if this was in place) … one side rally’s up in formation 50 feet from the opponent, other side gets in formation eyeing up their opponent, then one side tosses like 5 prints down in between … scrubs flock to build from either side and the enemies basically drop the bomb over top of the prints. Use prints like a carrot could be fun, like tossing a net tag in the middle

Santa is real. He plays on TC. Rngesus is real, he just hates everyone and never gives out goodies, he’s more like Krampus

I thought you get revealed when you hit, and have to go back into stealth. Most times i’m fighting thieves… it goes like this …

1. thief surprises me 9/10 times because he was in stealth and I had no idea he was there
2. First attack generally blown (if equipped) is the one that turns ya to stone, whats that basilisk venom or something like that? Anyway … pecks a bit and takes like 2-3k while under venom
3. Next attack heavy backstab usually drops targets to like 40% (my characters have high vit pools so I don’t know – I guess maybe they hit for like 8-10k)
4. By now I’m free to counter, so I generally pop a CC, but often a thief can go back into stealth
5. waiting, waiting … always moving my back position
6. Thief re-engages with another burst, does some dodges and if he cannot take me out right there … likely re-enters stealth

Point is … I don’t think I’ve ever not seen the thief attacking me. I don’t wander on the map and randomly notice somethings hitting me … and not see what it is. They get like one free shot, then they use there skills to gain advantages during the fight.

Thieves die just like the rest… and I think are pretty susceptible due to lower health pools.

The only issue I really have is the class, is a party of them can pretty much wipe any other party of 1 same profession in fairly short order. But again I think its what they are designed to do.

Teon.5168:

Hexinx.1872:

I hear repair hammers stack resistance on the siege they repair

#istruesomeguytoldme ;-P

LMAO!!!! Stir that pot!!!!

(10-1 someone actually takes your post and runs with it as if it is serious in another thread)

:-)

I hear repair hammers stack resistance on the siege they repair

#istruesomeguytoldme ;-P

Choppy.4183:

Who needs to suddenly craft in wvw?

No one. You come prepared – and if you play longer than anticipated, you go to the BLTC and buy more.

- Everyone fights
- Everyone runs
- Hell everyone scouts when they eat food at there desk
- Everyone uses siege – yes I have been under some heavy siege from BG just as much as I have with any other opponent
- Everyone open field fights
- Everyone targets anet tags like they hold precursors
- Everyone roams at times
- Everyone blobs at times
- Everyone attacks
- Everyone defends

Most of all, everyone says the same old boring kitten comments about opponents. No one is any different or any more special than the other. In your opponents eyes, your a red dead special snowflake.

Sad to know some BG guilds had enough, but being on TC – have been through that many times. I enjoy fighting BG, have enjoyed fighting them for the better part of the past 2 years. DB nice to have… and have provided some fun as well. Don’t care who wins losses or draws … just care to have fun place to go enjoy the game with good people, good drinks, good comms, and enjoy the game.

Waste of resource time imho

If Anet just put a 5 silver entrance fee into WvW, we’d be fine. I’m sure most WvW players don’t care about WP costs, and we’d make it up on the first ‘do anything on that map’

EDIT: Apparently putting ‘a’ ‘5’ and ‘s’ for silver was = kitten

Is this about when your selling your inventory and about the 10th or 12th item you get the error message saying you sold to much stuff and have to wait? Thanks for looking into this, it’s really just a minor annoyance but annoyance nonetheless

Did someone say Orb of power? No… too old? too unfair? Sounds like a perfect fit

15 boonshare’s vs 15 boonshares… it’ll be like a dance party

BeepBoopBop.5403:

Hexinx.1872:

In t1 roaming is called ‘spawn camping’

Not true! Sometimes roamers camp SMC too.

Lol … yes… that’s another great area. ;-)

In t1 roaming is called ‘spawn camping’

Belexes.4923:

penelopehannibal.8947:

Tringsh.2380:

DragonflyDusk.6582:

penelopehannibal.8947:

The Privateer weapon skins will always be 1 ticket, unlike tradable ones. For this reason, I might actually be able to complete that particular collection.

I haven’t even managed to average 1 full ticket per year thanks to RNG, so…. yeah. One ticket forever means absolutely nothing to me.

This, I don’t want to waste my time within the game farming keys. I’ve played that content maybe 10 times already. There really needs to be better ways of obtaining them.

Personally I just buy gems to get the keys, but each to their own I suppose.

30 bl chests needed to pull 10 scraps
480 chests needed for set of 16 skins
Wow, that’s going to be expensive!

What’s that $525 usd? in or around there for 1 set?

You edited your posting, its still quoted … and look … I did not edit mine from the original quote.

Question my reading comprehension after fixing your mistakes all you like … my comprehension is perfectly fine.

Is there a posting you do not edit, even your OP was edited an hour ago? I digress, back on topic.

I am supportive of flat lining the effective skill level of 80’s … I do not believe upscaled characters will ever really be on balance with level 80’s – as proven by the upscaling system. I do not support someone who only buys blue level rarities to be on equal footing of someone in exo’s or better. Yet, I am fine with having my ascended gear effectively levelled to exotics in WvW. It will bump to normal in other game modes. Personally speaking, I could careless about the 5% point difference. Or do you have players just select the gear they want and swap anytime, and exotics available to everyone.

Let me ask you a question. In this scenario … where we have achieve stat allocation balance, and I assume gear balance…

Wouldn’t it just be easier to develop that system from ground up?
-Player stats
-Equipment (weap, armor, accesories)
-Food / stone selections
-WvW rank point
-Map population balance (limit to the lowest pop server participating? so if server A has 50 people in queue, server B 40, server C 30 … effective map cap is 30/server)

What happens with WvW rank points, do they become irrelevant? Removed? Or is everyone the same in your idea? Say give every player 500 points to spend on there own choosing.

Would you have to build your character every single time you want to play WvW?

See, I am being constructive… and will not have to edit my post to make a troll comment.

SuperKorean.7345:

Hexinx.1872:

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Yes – I agree with you , free to play account should not be on equal footing.
I never said free to play account should be on equal footing.
When you say “powercreep”, does that mean “elite specializations”?
Yes – I agree with you , free to play account should have access to elite specializations.
I never said free to play account should have access to elite specializations.

I don’t know if it’s a translation issue but you say it when you say you do not say it. Must be misunderstanding.

SuperKorean.7345:

Josh XT.6053:

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Hexinx.1872:

Add level 80 boosters to be on the gem store

Dawdler.8521:

WvW is designed to accommodate newbie players that are not experienced enough to participate in PvP……

By equalizing the effective level and attribute bonuses in WvW, the existing players will not be more powerful than the newbie players. Therefore new players will be able to play WvW without disadvantages and this will help new players to get attached to Guild Wars 2.

You say it again. And again. And again, in many posts.

The reason I say level 80 booster … is f2p accounts require lvl 60 on first character to enter WvW. This is to limit/mitigate players creating multiple f2p accounts on every server.

You say previously your friends get tired and bored of game after 10 hours so they don’t have chance to try WvW and quit? I proposed a solution – which others have told you again and again. Even post #2 & #3

You want f2p accounts to log in, create character and play WvW – auto upscale to 80 (which exists) … then you need 1 character to be level 60. That limit should not go away. That was decided and suggested by THE PLAYERS playing the game. I do think it would be good idea to just make fast way to accomplish that level 60 – which is booster. You don’t like the idea of having to pay money? Whether expac – or cheap idea of lvl 80 booster idea? You make it sound like you want f2p accounts to not have to pay at all? Or are cheapskates. Either way, that is not a target audience of a company.

No I disagree, f2p accounts should not have access to elite specs – that is the hook to get them to buy expac.

I’m done suggesting help to a brick wall. I tried, but you just ignorant at this point. You refuse to accept what players offer as help or suggestions. You ignore the reasons they have provided why things are the way they are and even more why some of the ideas need to be better thought out.

Again, I believe in large part this is due to a communication barrier or translation barrier as some of the posts do not make sense or counter the same thing they promote in the same line. Sorry

Is the ‘wood league’ like the modern day participation badge?

I love when they claim a tower – seeing all the guards with little anet tags overhead, and enemies just flock to it (npc’s > rl players) like fly’s on … well you know. Would be interesting to see an Anet vs Anet vs Anet commanded event. Each leading a world pugmanding & in voice comms.

Even if it’s only just a one time event (outside of regular business hours)

No – f2p accounts should not be on equal footing. They are core – not expac. The powercreep that was introduced with the expac, should set the base bar for elite specs, and other expacs should bring in more elite specs on par with existing ones.

Your friends will have access to play all the WvW content though. But players who have paid full accounts should have the advantage of the expac powercreep over your f2p accounts. Like it or not – if you are given for free an old honda civic – and you go to a race track where racers buy Hennessey Venom GT’s – you get to race, but should not expect to be on level playing field.

Just promote the idea of adding level 80 boosters for gemstore – that will solve your problem – of being timegated (to level 60 access on f2p accounts)

I credit jarvan for papering BG’s BL right before OCX… was probably easy pickens for them all night.

#Dragonwagon

Add level 80 boosters to be on the gem store. Spend the money on the micro transaction.

You still have f2p limitations (to help drive the cheapskates to actually buy the game), limited to core professions only and NO elite specs, limited to no map chat – but other chats okay, and the rest is fluff.

It’s in regards to free up space on OP server. Kick inactives to free up space for incoming transfers. OP just missed the memo about where server status comes from. This was long the case on the forums about how those metrics were derived. Now they are trying to hone in on them proper.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Hexinx.1872:

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The elite specs were clearly designed to be balanced against other elite specs. That’s why you can explicitly only use one, and the associated weapon is unusable without the associated trait line.

In retrospect Anet should have launched HoT with two of them per profession, but I guess that would take more work than they were willing to do.

Absolutely agree on this. I see the potential, but right now players are kinda stuck with little option. I’m hoping they attend pax prime this year and let out some news about this.

Recruitment threads always make me smile …. love the timezone politics that gets thrown down every time.

During the linkings it does matter what server the SEA guilds play on. Not guaranteed to be a long term relationship.

You do realize that original game is free to play … adding free to play accounts costs nothing, and Anet gains 0. You require level 60 to ENTER WvW. So you have to do the other game modes.

You buy the expansion, and okay – you get 1 free level 80 to play in your idea.

The idea you are asking for is … for people to get 80 fast? Ignore the content Anet has created for first run through game, and just play WvW? I don’t get it. In WoW, they level up with each expansion, thus rendering existing content dead. You are asking for this to happen to this game, so players can just play WvW? It’s saying GW2 act like WoW.

Please clarify

Hell I was still playing my warrior up till last week. I love that guy

As the masteries were originally developed as a way to maintain current level yet add progression to the game, I hope (when/if) they introduce more elite specs, they hold them in line with the current elite specs.

I believe vanilla builds were meant to be less powerful than elite specs to push the player base towards using them. I do not believe Anet will tone anything down tbh, rather the opposite I see them adding alternates in the future.

Mouthbreathers!

The currency should be bags of salt, I support this

Vova.2640:

+1
Siege damage on players should not reward the users with bags/wexp.
The “reward” for using siege should just be the ability to defend/take over the objective.

In that instance, I would never jump on a ram to open a gate again.

I only do dailies to maintain my QoL. I spend just as much as I make on fluff. I don’t need anything, but it worked for me because i would never do dailies prior to them adding 2G to it. In fact that’s the only reason I do them.

This has been happening for a very long time, and is a risk people take when moving servers. Whether you all build up cash to transfer together, or one scouts it and the rest move after. Or even if the original guild recruited from another server – linked or not …. it’s a risk. If the guild is based off a full server, you have to know the harsh reality that you are presently facing was a risk that was always there all along.

The end result is you took the risk, or should I say … the individuals on the other servers took the risk. It sucks, but it didn’t work out. This is not an Anet issue. This is an issue with your community on BG. The only way you will ever get those players on is if BG for some reason decides to pay for players to transfer off.

Given the track record, I wouldn’t hold your breath. If you think we are entitled to anything more than we were provided, you have not been paying attention to how Anet has operated for 3+ years.

I’m certain one of you is a rep on the BG council, why not bring the issue up with them and see what solutions your server can provide? Find willing participants to move off in order to get your ET group over.

It’s flat out faster to craft your ascended armor & weapons than rely on anything rng related. I’d do laurels for amulets and accessories. Your recipes will also cost laurels per item you craft.

If you have the dark matter, and the laurels … nothign should really time gate you and if you have the cash, you can pretty much buy your gear outright (buying damask patches on TP, or the damask + on tp)

Should have stacked when the stacking was good?

I like EBG, why cycle EOTM into the most popular WvW map?

You know what I find takes up most space… is real WvW players who have been playing for ‘x’ time and need to take 5 minute break or so (whether bio, refill, smoke, food, whatever) and are at spawn. In an average 4 hour evening I’ll probably take a 5 min break every half hour, cause the commanders just don’t.

Assuming the queue impacts based only around crafting was a silly move. Sure crafting should never have been in the maps to begin with (nor should the forge really – but vendors TP and bank should be imho), but it’s never really been a problem for 99% of the game’s life. But one of the times some anet guy was on when there was a bunch afk at some station… boom. Gets the report, goes to validate it … see’s it and deducts that crafter’s have an impact. I didn’t see any numbers around this math, but I couldn’t imagine it was much.

You know what stat I would love to know? The amount of players in queue that are presently on another WvW map. Example … guild sees EBG is queued, goes to red BL to raid, raids for a while, queues for EBG. While EBG players playing on EBG, seeing queue on another map, queuing for that map. We keep looking at it from a perspective that players are trying to get in from outside, or to get more guildies in from outside… when I think a lot of it is based from active players wanting to play on an active map. Some likely even think, or big queue must be a good commander on that map.

To be honest, I think a lot of the queue is based around this type of stuff. Sure, when daily vet comes up … a lot of players queue that map just to go kill a worg at there close way point, but that’s a small blip across the 24 hour day – hell even 6 hours prime for players – what do those people doing daily take … 2 minutes to go stand by a hillside and wait for it to spawn?

Scamp.5296:

T I know that would mean WvW would be combined, but that might be for the best with all this cross server hopping and guilds being split up. Surely they could code people like they do on the regular servers now so that enemies appear in red.

This is what EOTM was designed for (megaserver style/alliance/whatever you call it) while players waited to join there servers actual WvW.

I have to think that something like this could also be player driven. I’m sure many of you make little guild trailers here and there.

I like the idea of promoting a large scale battle in a trailer, and yes … you in fact should show siege humpers, to give players outside the game the idea that there is siege weapons people use. You could also show things like a basic tower developing into a tier 3 tower. Small team sized battles at camps … large groups running in formation. Things like that. Hell even some comical RP walking up to or out from a keep, and gotta have in some spiking with finishers

While I like the idea of anet creating something like this … it costs $ and more importantly resources, which they don’t have any to spare.

What if there was a contest to develop a short 1 min or less video – at the very least Anet could take the top 3-5 and collect there raw footage.
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The map completion is not a great idea. It would only accomplish more forum vitriol in the end, alongside some salty players who are already kittened about the GoB change requiring them to come into WvW. Let’s not add to that.
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I do agree though, that in general, WvW could use some promotional marketing. This was something, coincidentally I brought up at a server level, more around promoting builds, and basics around objectives map awareness, anything really … to help newer players get up that learning curve faster.

Devil, I understand about the past history. I’ve been hear, and that’s why I’m a strong advocate of moving forward. This is the best we have had, and while it can be improved, that won’t happen overnight. One step at a time is more the approach I look at it like. Start with what we got and do what we can to help build more attention where attention is needed.

You are right though, I do have strong feelings that alot of players who have played for years who should have valid inputs in this. But I don’t believe that you should completely ignore newer players or current players. It’s not right to just have one group the entitlement, without hearing the voices of the others. Rank 500 is far too high, I mean anyone who sticks around WvW and earns Rank 100, is obviously interested in the game mode, with r500 you are basically saying you can’t take a hiatus, you can’t drop the game for years, and you have to play WvW for I don’t know what 750 hours? Something around that at 2 levels/3hours. What may besurprising is that some people only play the game say 2-3 hours a night and that means it takes them almost 1-1.5 years before being allowed to have input. Sure, add in 1 dolyak kill to offset the eotm crowd, hell make it 10 dolyaks… but then … those players that are taking a hiatus or vacation, or only play during a certain part of the year will be neglected regardless.

Ideally you want to have input from all those crowds, and be able to segregate the data into the player bases. We are no where near that. Neglecting newer players does not mean taking away from your value. But forcing new players to go through what everyone else endured before being allowed to vote on a survey? Seems a little to stern. I don’t know what the happy medium would be, but it surely can be better than punching the rank up to almost silver before being allowed to have input.

lil devils x.6071:

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Yes, actually I would count them if they meet the base criteria. Absolutely.

Base criteria should be min rank (but personally I suggested long ago r100), plus rank up throughout the week the poll is active. Not dolyak kills. I don’t care if people chose only to play once a week, or everyday so long as they hit the base criteria – whatever that is. Personally I say 1 rank because a yak kill a week – the player may as well not be playing – AI bats kill more yaks than that. oh and I’m one of those guys who also goes on hiatus’ like many players do. Burnouts are real in gaming, but I don’t think me not playing should be able to vote on something if I am not actively playing.

No one cares if I’m a math genius – if I chose to only answer 1 question on a test paper of 50, I would only get 1 mark.

Playing everyday is a lose term for logging in and playing WvW – don’t get caught up in in nit picking, I’m not. Also I just said that is what we are doing, not that it is required for base criteria. 3 Legitimate account are still 3 legit accounts = 3 votes. If you chose not to have your family, extended family, neighbours vote, that’s a PEBKAC. Especially if you gave a rats kitten about the future of this game mode.

Anyways, you are more than welcome to discuss this with me personally through a PM. While I agree a lot needs to be done, you get nothing accomplished without taking the first steps. Anet to me has proven they are taking the steps. I’d rather help that and support that.

I need a beer now, I’ll toast it in your honour of this convo – it’s eow for us canadians (fyi – I take everything in constructively even if i don’t personally agree)

lil devils x.6071:

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3 people play them, 2 of them are minors. I paid for them, built them up, and made the QoL experience of this game easier for them because I do that stuff (being good to others)- all on HoT. Told them the choices, obviously with a personal bias – and voted.

What you are describing is not the same. Unless you are actively playing all 15 accounts everyday … in which case – you are jobless. But even then if you are actively playing all 15 accounts every day I would count you as a legitimate voter if it meets the base criteria.

Devil – I own 3 accounts, they are all legitimate votes, and all accounts are active everyday.

Belenwyn.8674:

The only danger is now that trolls and griefers realise they can ruin the day for many players now.

I have to believe more in the company preventing that and the overall populus of good people versus the people who inevitably get banned for poor behaviour. Regardless of game mode, there’s more good than bad out there. Let’s just hope for every troll there’s at least 3 good people out there, and my gut feeling says there’s like 10-20 decent people for every bad apple.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Jeknar.6184:

Lord Kuru.3685:

Balthazzarr.1349:

“Most” of the people actually want them around according to the polls and most stuff I’m reading.

No. The correct conclusion is that most of the people (I’d say roughtly 70 percent) who stopped playing because of DBL when HoT was released, have never come back, hence the recent poll result.

Anet should care about the players still remaining, not the ones long gone. Mentioning that people who quit would make a difference in the pool result is moot point since these people don’t even play the game anymore.

That would be true if population levels were ok. But they’re not. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re close to the point where the game mode is not even worth supporting. Look at how much server merging is being done right now. And still population levels are low. Remember that GW2 also has PvE. Maybe if they shifted all the WvW devs and server resources into PvE, they might get more customers? Someone at Anet is surely thinking about this.

The alternative is to get more new players, but GW2’s reputation is pretty bad overall so we’re probably talking about a small trickle of new players.

All 5 of the wvw support team? That’s all WvW has and it’s more than we ever had.

Missed that note… thanks for the update.

Xillllix.3485:

OMG.

Can’t wait to hear them say… “ah well we said 75% but it’s 74.9% so we wont do anything you want, please buy more gems.”

I don’t even wait for them to say anything. I just toss some money now and then and hope things stay the course, and do what I can to make it better for people i play with.

I mean – the communication alone is much better (plus 1), the notes about direction and polling (plus 1) … I’d rather stay this course than what most had to go through the first few years.

And Lol @ the last note of your post something

I feel that we have to somehow just live for the present and forget those bad memories of old …

Even after 3 yes votes, not moving. I feel like I came back bought HoT on 3 accounts, gliders and such to update it. Just getting back into WvW … feeling excited and pumped about this game again. Seeing the results all week up above the threshold … wanting to support the company again (already spent over $300 in 3 months across my 3 accounts).

Now looking at the glaring 74.9% knowing this would result in 3 month rotations of maps versus providing players the ability to chose the maps they want to play … not even worth it. There was people actively in WvW maps encouraging the votes for simultaneous borderlands … and others on comms saying they already on comms backing there votes for it. And now – end of week … it’s going to fail? When does it close tomorrow?

Well … kitten. Faith in things sometimes lead us to make stupid choices. I’ve had faith in Anet since GW1 bwe’s … I’m getting the sinking feeling I made a poor decision. I hate making poor decisions.

https://feedback.guildwars2.com/en/results/

Nyta.4769:

Hexinx.1872:

Nyta.4769:

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But your rank up chests didn’t provide you with 500 badges, not even close.

Not rank up chests. I didn’t even include the badges from them in the calculation. Achievement chests. The reason I talked about AP.

I gotcha – 1500 AP would get it without doing anything.