Guild Wars 2

Offair.2563:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Why the kitten don’t rams have auto attack yet anyway?

Make em also auto deployable and perhaps rush to lord to kill and cap it…

I’m sorry you’re right, pressing 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1 brings so much to the game…..

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

They’ve also had the issue of delayed damage on gates for quite some time now. How long I’m not sure but it didn’t used to be like that.

A long time ago you would use the ram skill and the damage would instantly translate to the gate. Now, when you use the ram skill, the ram hits the gate and there’s about a half – full second delay before the gate takes damage. I’ve seen people hop off of the rams early on the last hit to open a gate and the gate won’t open because the damage didn’t go off.

That started when they reskinned superior siege.

Why the kitten don’t rams have auto attack yet anyway?

Don’t try to run in the zerg, work around the periphery. There’s almost always thieves trying to gank your backline, focus on taking them out. Or as the zergs are moving around each other you separate someone from the back of the zerg with a point blank/ancient seeds.

Last night my server was holding hills in another bl, the outer walls were down and the zergs were inside fighting. My buddy and I positioned ourselves between garri and hills and just gobbled up all the bags coming our way. We killed at least 25 people in 10 minutes as they came running back in groups of 5 or less. Without the steady stream of reinforcements their zerg was destroyed.

Manimarco Devil.1790:

@ LughLongArm.5460

Why don’t you check out your own reading skills, druid should not be running into teamfights headfirst to begin with and in general ranked play, a necro/dh/mesmer is always going to be a higher priority that a druid simply because they are easier to burn down. Also I clearly ended my statement with a suggestion that druids get more offensive capabilities. Contrary to popular belief DH WAS played in high tiers, they were just rare because of the aforementioned focus fire.

@Swagger.1459
Unless you can actually contribute why comment?

@EnderzShadow.2506
I was mistaken when I typed long-term. On demand would be a more apt way to describe it. Nonetheless it the the accumulation of the defensive tools what I find overwhelming. Druid are perfectly fine in popularity: case in point today’s qualifiers. “Not very popular” was thieves and DH’s.

This subforum appears to suffer from the same biases that all class forums seem to have. I am glad Anet does not read them for any suggestions. I’ll figure it out on my own, thanks.

Yup, nothing says “on demand” stability like a 1 second cast time……

EnderzShadow.2506:

kiwituatara.6053:

Heal as One boon copying and Ancient Seeds CD needs a nerf.

Spirits needs a buff. Wyverns needs a buff. Staff #2 needs to be changed.

get out

heal as one needs a nerf…lol why?

Because the hard nerf it took less than 24 hours after being buffed wasn’t enough for the people that would rather complain on the forum instead of learning to play.

Dirame.8521:

Jim Hunter.6821:

One thing really missing from all this GW1 nostalgia is the interrupt ranger. Maybe instead of dual shot on shortbow we could bring back choking gas that do aoe interrupts for 2 seconds around your target. Would come in pretty handy for breaking up zergs.

Would’ve done choking gas but I thought it would have to be a skill. Like the Ranger’s own Chaos storm. Also the Thief already has the patent on Choking gas as the name of a skill.

I was actually going to do something like Disrupting Accuracy but I thought, that would be OP and it’s best to let people do more active interrupts. But I did cave and make the Preparation for the Hammer have a 50% chance to daze targets that are casting a skill.

Warriors already have the patent on dual shot. They can call it whatever they want.

The shortbow skills have a decent enough cooldown that you couldn’t straight up spam interrupts and be effective. It wouldn’t be a whole lot different than a mesmer or thief that builds for interrupting, plus shortbow would finally serve a purpose and stop being the kittentiest weapon in the game.

One thing really missing from all this GW1 nostalgia is the interrupt ranger. Maybe instead of dual shot on shortbow we could bring back choking gas that do aoe interrupts for 2 seconds around your target. Would come in pretty handy for breaking up zergs.

Dadnir.5038:

What rangers need is E-specs that reform their special mechanic the same way Reaper shroud reform the death shroud.

Wait… Are you arguing that instead of anet fixing the pets on the core ranger the next specialization should change them entirely?
You really think it’s better for the game to make certain trait lines mandatory?

Fluffball.8307:

Who cares about water combat? Not OP. Not anyone responding in this thread.

Michelle Obama is the surprising answer.

Thanks Obama…

Why let them in wvw at all?

Ranger or mes. You still have the stealth and interrupts, ranger is pretty darn close in mobility and has some great cc, but a mesmer provides some boon strips which is pretty kitten ed important right now.

Oh so this is the thread where we are posting ridiculous things? Okay hang on a min….. yup, this will do.

Justine.6351:

Ya it is kinda surprising, I just don’t get alot of mortars dropped on me.

But when I hard look at it,
It’s cannon dmg put into burning dot.

If some one was on a cannon blasting same spot over and over would you stand in it?

I would. And then I’d come and complain on the forums that I can’t afk under siege fire.

Preperations, bunny thumper….. man you are really making me want to play GW1 again.
I really like this idea, the thought of working all that poison into my crit bleed build is getting me a little turned on.

How is this any worse than ele’s fighting in front of doors so they can mistform through them when they go down, or thieves/mesmers/engi’s popping stealth and resetting when they get low, or warriors block, invuln, nike away to reset, etc.

WvW is full of dumb kitten like this. You either lock them down so they can’t do it or you work around it.

Also if you have 3 players wailing on the ranger while letting the pet rez him then your group screwed up. There are a ton of underwater cc skills that would have pulled the pet off him so that you could easily finish him off.

F I R S T.3976:

Been a pow ranger since day 1 using longbow(melee on switch). When fractal came out, made it all the way to fractal 34. I stopped playing for almost 2 years.

decided to play again 2 months ago and still rolled a new and improved power build ranger(with druid spec). Made it all the way to fractal 92 and was able to finish my legendary back. This was all done as a pugger w/o help from friend or guildmates

A player once told me while inside t4 fractal: number 1 rule! either you run a zerk build or gtfo.

I understood his point since most players would rather aim towards time and effeciency.
Overall, power build is still decent if not great imho.

Was that before you quit or after you came back? It used to be that condi’s were capped and zerk was the only way to go, but that changed a while ago.

You might want to hang on to your gems for a bit. You’ll likely role back into T2 next week to fight Mag who has a bunch of small groups, and Fa.

If you still aren’t enjoying yourself you’ll only have to deal with that match up for another couple weeks before servers are relinked. There’s a good chance you’ll get to check out one of the other tiers without spending any cash.

Before they make any changes to siege, the first thing they need to spend time on is enabling auto attack. On Rams this is a no brainer, on cata’s the projectile will go the minimum distance if you enable auto.

The pet damage doesn’t come without a cost. To have decent pet damage we have to invest in beast mastery, to have really good pet damage we also have to take nature magic so we can share boons with them. The build you are complaining about requires druids to sacrifice their personal damage and rely on an npc.

As for your other argument. Rangers were made to excel at roaming as well. Thieves beat us in the mobility department, have easier access to stealth, more evades, and have way more dps, the only thing we beat you at is ranged damage and healing.

The only way cutting our pet dps would be fair is if they stopped taxing our personal dps, and that is not something you want. Rangers would become a hell of a lot more dangerous at full power.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

I literally go about 75% of my fights (at least ones I see coming) without ever taking a hit.

Yeah I deal with that crap every day. Between retal and resistance anet really needs to give rangers a way to strip boons.

LughLongArm.5460:

The Game Slayer.7632:

Substance E.4852:

The Game Slayer.7632:

Matt Stacey.7415:

Everyone welcome the newest troll to the ranger forums

Druids are over-performing a little bit. Everyone and their mom has one in wvw for roaming.

By that logic thieves need to be nerfed onto the stone age since they’ve been the go to roaming class for years.

There’s a problem when there are more druids than thieves when roaming. Give thief a pet, and we’ll call it even. Or just make pet stats scale with player.

I dont see meny druids on my server, and if you want a pet, go pirate rune or ogre rune.

Or thieves guild, or ambush….

The Game Slayer.7632:

Substance E.4852:

The Game Slayer.7632:

Matt Stacey.7415:

Everyone welcome the newest troll to the ranger forums

Druids are over-performing a little bit. Everyone and their mom has one in wvw for roaming.

By that logic thieves need to be nerfed onto the stone age since they’ve been the go to roaming class for years.

There’s a problem when there are more druids than thieves when roaming. Give thief a pet, and we’ll call it even. Or just make pet stats scale with player.

Why is that a problem?

Sylvyn.4750:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Dayra.7405:

The problem of winner up looser down is that it is very stale if the ranking is correct:

1 week: 1-2-3 & 4-5-6 & 7-8-9
2 week: 1-2-4 & 3-5-7 & 6-8-9
3 week like 1st
4 week like 2nd
and so on.

Other problems are:

• 3 never plays against 4, (6 never against 7) they always only switch places.
• whenever the 7th is in T2, the 3rd is in T2 as well, which give a very bad match

Except we see 2nd and 3rd place changing pretty often in each tier so it won’t work like that. Plus if players really want to move up they will push harder for the win since they know winning actually means moving up a tier and not just shaving 10 glicko points off the 200+ glicko wall.

The glicko wall is real, and is not only affected by how well one server does against the other two in its tier, but how well the other 2 servers in the tier above do against a higher tier server moving down. In effect, T1 through T3 can (and did) pull themselves upwards if they experience a lot of up and down movement and leave a huge gap between T3 and T4. If we keep glicko, it has to be reset with each new pairing so that the incremental gaps left over from past pairings don’t spiral out of control over time.

Not only that, glicko actually encourages servers to attack the weakest server in their tier to prevent them from draining points.

Zenith.7301:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Zenith.7301:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Zenith.7301:

Magira.6390:

Zenith.7301:

People only play druids for roaming/duels, which do nothing of significant value for the mist war score.

A good Roamer makes at least double the points like a Blobber. Blobbing is just one way that unskilled PVE Peeps also can do something. The alone are not capable of surviving.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that fantasy if ignoring towers/keeps to kill 3-5 stragglers every few minutes is your idea of usefulness.

Before I went to bed last night I wanted to hop on my alt account and knock out my daily real quick. I figured I’d hop in the zerg to get it done as quick as possible. After about 45 min of watching them get 1 pushed while repeatedly slamming their face into SM, and having of the entire zerg (about 80% of EB population) WP back and forth to defend keeps, I gave up on them, swapped to my ranger and went and flipped a camp and tower (where I killed 2 people trying to defend) in under 10 min.

The entire time I was with the zerg we capped nothing, not even a camp. In less than a quarter of the time by myself I capped a tower and camp.

Stop following kitten commanders, or your server has some issues with WvW guilds that don’t raid.

But if the commander is kitten and roaming is useless what should I do? Stand afk at spawn? EotM? Log out?

I’m pretty sure your server can’t be so terrible as to not have a single competent commander at any time of the day. Maybe it’s time to transfer.

Justifying roaming because you’ve got no competent active WvW guild raids or commanders is a kitten poor excuse for saying “ranger is great because its only good build shines when you have to do subpar activities because I can’t find a good commander or guild raid.”

So just to be clear, your argument is that if a person logs on and there isn’t a competent commander on, instead of taking the initiative to go get things done on their own they should transfer……
k.

Dayra.7405:

The problem of winner up looser down is that it is very stale if the ranking is correct:

1 week: 1-2-3 & 4-5-6 & 7-8-9
2 week: 1-2-4 & 3-5-7 & 6-8-9
3 week like 1st
4 week like 2nd
and so on.

Other problems are:

• 3 never plays against 4, (6 never against 7) they always only switch places.
• whenever the 7th is in T2, the 3rd is in T2 as well, which give a very bad match

Except we see 2nd and 3rd place changing pretty often in each tier so it won’t work like that. Plus if players really want to move up they will push harder for the win since they know winning actually means moving up a tier and not just shaving 10 glicko points off the 200+ glicko wall.

Choppy.4183:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Yeah I didn’t see a lot of them in your tier, but the only ones I find in t1/t2 are running those kitten ed runes and boon duration food.

Salt rubbed… wounds burning. QQ

Hopefully those runes get clipped before the next balance patch though. I’d hate to see the warrior get nerfed instead, since it would miss the root of the problem.

I couldn’t believe they escaped a nerf this time around. I avoided getting them for that reason lol. Might as well invest in them now, I mean it only took several years for perplexity runes to finally get nerfed…..

Dayra.7405:

Jim Hunter.6821:

That thread is over 3 years old when their were twice as many tiers and a much larger population difference between the tiers.
Players on both of my servers are having a blast this week because the match ups are fresh. Neither server stands a chance of winning the coverage wars but everyone is out their playing and having fun.

Glicko is quite good in predicting the outcome of matches (except after re-links and massive transfers).

If you want more volatility spread out population more equal, than volatility makes sense and it will happen.

But if you all want to stack on the most overstacked server, than it does not make sense and it will not happen / happen less likely.

Thanks to national servers EU is better balanced and we have the volatility you ask for. But if you would get this now in NA, it would only lead to more frustration, producing even more overstacking.

You realize the whole point of pairing up servers was to make the population more even right?
In the past couple months between my accounts I’ve played across every tier and the population difference, especially during prime time, isn’t as massive as people make it out to be. When they first linked servers everyone had queues because people weren’t bored of the stale matches. Any server could have fought any other server at that point and had fun. The servers with the best coverage would have won the ppt wars but people could of still enjoyed whatever match up they were in. Once they start using the proposed scoring change even coverage will be less of an issue.

The thing that hurt the new system the most was they never reset the glicko scores when they linked the servers. Every tier was locked, players got bored and transfered to find new fights, the top servers got stacked again because of it. If it had been a winner up/loser down system at that point I bet T4 wouldn’t be the kitten show it is right now.

Zenith.7301:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Zenith.7301:

Magira.6390:

Zenith.7301:

People only play druids for roaming/duels, which do nothing of significant value for the mist war score.

A good Roamer makes at least double the points like a Blobber. Blobbing is just one way that unskilled PVE Peeps also can do something. The alone are not capable of surviving.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that fantasy if ignoring towers/keeps to kill 3-5 stragglers every few minutes is your idea of usefulness.

Before I went to bed last night I wanted to hop on my alt account and knock out my daily real quick. I figured I’d hop in the zerg to get it done as quick as possible. After about 45 min of watching them get 1 pushed while repeatedly slamming their face into SM, and having of the entire zerg (about 80% of EB population) WP back and forth to defend keeps, I gave up on them, swapped to my ranger and went and flipped a camp and tower (where I killed 2 people trying to defend) in under 10 min.

The entire time I was with the zerg we capped nothing, not even a camp. In less than a quarter of the time by myself I capped a tower and camp.

Stop following kitten commanders, or your server has some issues with WvW guilds that don’t raid.

But if the commander is kitten and roaming is useless what should I do? Stand afk at spawn? EotM? Log out?

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Players wouldn’t game the system.

Players always try to game the system, especially if it’s simple or easy to do so.

The players that game the system, like the kittenters alliance, do so to break up the stale match ups. Like I said, even if they did game the system it wouldn’t hurt as bad as the current system.

Choppy.4183:

Jim Hunter.6821:

The problem with that war boon duration build is there isn’t enough of a window to burn them down, even if the ranger is full zerk their damage is too low since durability runes bump most warriors up to 3k+ armor. Actually, especially if the ranger is full zerk because then they really have to keep as much distance as possible making it very easy for the war to reset any time he is in danger.

Oh, I agree that the build is broken. But yes, if the warrior just keeps resetting then he’s in the same spot as the tanky druid and you’ll get that stalemate you mentioned.

That said, most warriors still aren’t running the boon build and most warriors couldn’t get far enough from a druid to reset. You wouldn’t have to keep that much distance. Tbh, I’ve been looking at druids lately and I think I see quite a lot of build potential there, to the point I might start playing one to try some things out.

Yeah I didn’t see a lot of them in your tier, but the only ones I find in t1/t2 are running those kitten ed runes and boon duration food.

Choppy.4183:

Jim Hunter.6821:

I’m really surprised by this thread. Since the adrenal health boost a good warrior is pretty much the biggest threat to rangers in wvw, especially with the ridiculous boon duration build.
The high stability and resistance uptime keeps you nearly immune to CC, which the ranger needs to keep you from closing the gap. And by rotating shield block/reflect, invulnerability and adrenal health a ranger shouldn’t have enough dps to kill you in the small windows where you are vulnerable.

When I’m on my ranger I kill plenty of bad warriors, but the good ones are a death sentence unless I’m in the open field where I can kite around them and stalemate the fight. When I’m on my war I decimate rangers.

Well that’s the thing, we’re talking about open field and 1v1. But you wouldn’t need to stalemate the fight if you were running zealots or berserker gear, because you’d be able to out position the warrior, deny both his damage and sustain, and then wear through his remaining defenses fairly quickly.

Sure, get stuck with a warrior in close combat with no way of escaping, then he’s probably going to get through your defenses before too long while his sustain and damage output are high. But even then, it’s not a guarantee for the warrior (the odds are in his favour though).

The problem with that war boon duration build is there isn’t enough of a window to burn them down, even if the ranger is full zerk their damage is too low since durability runes bump most warriors up to 3k+ armor. Actually, especially if the ranger is full zerk because then they really have to keep as much distance as possible making it very easy for the war to reset any time he is in danger.

Zenith.7301:

Magira.6390:

Zenith.7301:

People only play druids for roaming/duels, which do nothing of significant value for the mist war score.

A good Roamer makes at least double the points like a Blobber. Blobbing is just one way that unskilled PVE Peeps also can do something. The alone are not capable of surviving.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that fantasy if ignoring towers/keeps to kill 3-5 stragglers every few minutes is your idea of usefulness.

Before I went to bed last night I wanted to hop on my alt account and knock out my daily real quick. I figured I’d hop in the zerg to get it done as quick as possible. After about 45 min of watching them get 1 pushed while repeatedly slamming their face into SM, and having of the entire zerg (about 80% of EB population) WP back and forth to defend keeps, I gave up on them, swapped to my ranger and went and flipped a camp and tower (where I killed 2 people trying to defend) in under 10 min.

The entire time I was with the zerg we capped nothing, not even a camp. In less than a quarter of the time by myself I capped a tower and camp.

Dawdler.8521:

Players wouldnt game such a system at all to make servers go where they want to by transfering on purpose, oh no…

I dont think Glicko should be used to determine matchups but at least it offer some slack and reaction times when it comes to population shifts. One up one down would literally be weekly transfer heaven.

People need to be really quiet about that or Anet will get ideas.

Players wouldn’t game the system.
Tournaments aren’t a thing anymore, the bigger guilds that influenced stuff like that are just trying to keep things entertaining at this point. Avoiding playing the game for several weeks so your server drops and you can kitten stomp your way back up isn’t entertaining.

Even if someone did decide to do that, each tier would only have to deal with a blown out match for 1 week.
I’ll take the risk of 1 bad week every so often instead of having several months of boring, stale matches.

I’m really surprised by this thread. Since the adrenal health boost a good warrior is pretty much the biggest threat to rangers in wvw, especially with the ridiculous boon duration build.
The high stability and resistance uptime keeps you nearly immune to CC, which the ranger needs to keep you from closing the gap. And by rotating shield block/reflect, invulnerability and adrenal health a ranger shouldn’t have enough dps to kill you in the small windows where you are vulnerable.

When I’m on my ranger I kill plenty of bad warriors, but the good ones are a death sentence unless I’m in the open field where I can kite around them and stalemate the fight. When I’m on my war I decimate rangers.

That thread is over 3 years old when their were twice as many tiers and a much larger population difference between the tiers.
Players on both of my servers are having a blast this week because the match ups are fresh. Neither server stands a chance of winning the coverage wars but everyone is out their playing and having fun.

greenarrow.2784:

Jim Hunter.6821:

greenarrow.2784:

Jim Hunter.6821:

greenarrow.2784:

alain.1659:

In zergs, rangers are bad. No proper aoe, best burst is easily reflectable and there are millions of reflects in the game. For heal staff 1 has to change. It is a good weapon but auto sucks.

In roaming, in my opinion, with the latest changes ranger/druid will become less powerful. Especially with the boon stealing from thief and warrior. Everyone says ranger has good mobility but i think it has good speed. Pure running speed. Rangers do not have a teleport skill that can be used to jump on the stairs, walls, etc. Still it is way too fast

For me problem is with ranger weapons and utility skills. Staff 1, shortbow, longbow, signets… these all need reworks for ranger to work better. (I am not including pets, I have given up that dream long ago)

But again, if you can kite well, you can easily kill many professions, but not all of them.

noticed it to my Arrow got deflected times i was fighting a mesmer who was attack a team mate and my Arrows did nothing he had a projectile bubble

Yeah there is a lot of projectile hate in wvw. It helps to spend a little time on each class so you learn the visual/audio cues and the cool downs for these skills. That way you can try to save your weapon swap for these moments.

Most of those skills won’t affect our melee weapons and our staff auto isn’t a projectile so it goes right through a lot of it.

i find druid staff skills lack any condition these beam do dmg and thats all no bleeding or weakness or anything

What kind of build are you running? If you really want to you can add condi’s through traits and sigils.

not playing ranger anymore atm tried lot of build tried condition but hated shortbow range

Shortbow is probably the weakest weapon in the entire game. You’d be better off running any other weapon set

greenarrow.2784:

Jim Hunter.6821:

greenarrow.2784:

alain.1659:

In zergs, rangers are bad. No proper aoe, best burst is easily reflectable and there are millions of reflects in the game. For heal staff 1 has to change. It is a good weapon but auto sucks.

In roaming, in my opinion, with the latest changes ranger/druid will become less powerful. Especially with the boon stealing from thief and warrior. Everyone says ranger has good mobility but i think it has good speed. Pure running speed. Rangers do not have a teleport skill that can be used to jump on the stairs, walls, etc. Still it is way too fast

For me problem is with ranger weapons and utility skills. Staff 1, shortbow, longbow, signets… these all need reworks for ranger to work better. (I am not including pets, I have given up that dream long ago)

But again, if you can kite well, you can easily kill many professions, but not all of them.

noticed it to my Arrow got deflected times i was fighting a mesmer who was attack a team mate and my Arrows did nothing he had a projectile bubble

Yeah there is a lot of projectile hate in wvw. It helps to spend a little time on each class so you learn the visual/audio cues and the cool downs for these skills. That way you can try to save your weapon swap for these moments.

Most of those skills won’t affect our melee weapons and our staff auto isn’t a projectile so it goes right through a lot of it.

i find druid staff skills lack any condition these beam do dmg and thats all no bleeding or weakness or anything

What kind of build are you running? If you really want to you can add condi’s through traits and sigils.

SkyShroud.2865:

dzeRnumbrd.6129:

SkyShroud.2865:

They have nerfed the reduce condi food in favor of more condi. They further boost it with increased condi stacks.

1. They also nerfed +duration foods so your point is moot.

2. Condi stack limits are irrelevant to PvP – if you have 25 stacks of bleed in WvW/sPvP you are already a dead man walking, 30 or 40 is hardly worse than 25, you’re still dead.

PvP? This is WvW, you sure you are in the right forums? In wvw we have zerg and blob, we have necro with epidemic. You think is not possible stack it to a deadly point? If it isn’t possible, why do people have to use boonshare to maintain that disgusting amount of resistance uptime? Bragging rights?

To help keep up stability, might, etc. They don’t run boonshare/duration just for resistance. Resistance does however keeps the zergs immune to CC like chill, immobilize and fear.
It’s not for damaging conditions which are much less effective than direct damage on that scale.

greenarrow.2784:

alain.1659:

In zergs, rangers are bad. No proper aoe, best burst is easily reflectable and there are millions of reflects in the game. For heal staff 1 has to change. It is a good weapon but auto sucks.

In roaming, in my opinion, with the latest changes ranger/druid will become less powerful. Especially with the boon stealing from thief and warrior. Everyone says ranger has good mobility but i think it has good speed. Pure running speed. Rangers do not have a teleport skill that can be used to jump on the stairs, walls, etc. Still it is way too fast

For me problem is with ranger weapons and utility skills. Staff 1, shortbow, longbow, signets… these all need reworks for ranger to work better. (I am not including pets, I have given up that dream long ago)

But again, if you can kite well, you can easily kill many professions, but not all of them.

noticed it to my Arrow got deflected times i was fighting a mesmer who was attack a team mate and my Arrows did nothing he had a projectile bubble

Yeah there is a lot of projectile hate in wvw. It helps to spend a little time on each class so you learn the visual/audio cues and the cool downs for these skills. That way you can try to save your weapon swap for these moments.

Most of those skills won’t affect our melee weapons and our staff auto isn’t a projectile so it goes right through a lot of it.

Sagramor.7395:

Tragic Positive.9356:

Wondrouswall.7169:

. . .

The alternative is, if it were to revert back to an auto-target, the projectile must be changed to a free-air projectile rather than traveling on the ground. In trade for losing directional control, the gain would be doing things such as pulling enemies from the top of keeps and cliffs.

<slams the hammer>
SOLD

This is a million-dollar idea.

/Seconded

Man that would be nice

DeWolfe.2174:

OP, you won’t get an honest answer about the Druid being out of balance from the peanut gallery. They don’t want their shiny taken away from them. Are there a couple of Druid builds that are bad for WvW, absolutely.

A couple huh? Which ones?

Fluffball.8307:

I think I might be the only ranger alive that thinks this skill is mildly awesome. As a skill it’s terrible beyond acceptance, but with a condi WS ranger, it sort of does everything on a short CD. You can literally use it as a utility condi cleanse, and then it does a bunch of other stuff you didn’t ask it to.

Even on my WS crit bleed build I end up taking QZ and lightning reflexes over it because SS just doesn’t compete with the utility that those skills provide.

Boon removal is something we desperately need, especially with the ridiculous +boon duration wars/revs running around that are immune to our cc.

Justine.6351:

Puck.9612:

Added some new ideas that would make the skill worth bringing. Boon stripping would really help out and the cooldown is about right for it.

It’s a nice thought but I think it’s time to move on. It was buffed 3 ways in a single patch, it’s unlikely they will revisit it anytime soon.

It’s unlikely we’ll see any positive changes any time soon. The only time we get attention quickly is if something works too well.

Don’t worry, they’ll fix it in 9 months or so.

Zelulose.8695:

Druids are the best sustain right now next to rev and engi

And warrior. ….and ele. ….and mes….

Not enough of a buff to replace offhand axe.
Which is the problem with all the buffs we got this patch. They are less kitten but still not worth taking over other choices.

I think the op just messed up with his punctuation marks, what he really meant to put was:
Nerf druid? Enough!
Meaning why the hell do we keep getting nerfed. He even pointed out some of our most recent nerfs like our hit to sustainability and the repeated nerfs to BB and SS.

You guys just don’t understand sarcasm.

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Swagger.1459:

“This idea doesn’t fix anything, it just drives away people that play for server loyalty”… So you oppose the 3 faction idea that pools players from servers and used the above in quotes as one counter point, but yet you support and idea of mass scale server hopping and mixing of players…

Being able to tier hop at will for fun and variety doesn’t forcefully separate anyone from their servers. There are players that love defending their home bl, they take pride in it, they still get to do this.

you don’t lose the ability to run with server peeps in the faction model I suggested so your point is moot

Swagger.1459:

More balanced populations must be first or all else fails. Nobody gives a hoot about “variety” when they are outnumbered… Lack of “variety” doesn’t cause people to log in frustration, its getting blown out. “Variety” won’t change the fact that your side is down 50-100k and facing twice your numbers…

Honestly, you don’t seem to have a deeper understanding of rvr gameplay, what state wvw is in and what we have to work with…

You don’t have a deeper understanding of human nature. If people get bored of something they find something else to do.
My main account is on Mag, we are down about 60k right now, and we all knew how the week would turn out since we lack sea coverage, but this week is the most active the server has been since the last time we rolled up to T2 about a month ago. No one cares about winning PPT wars when we are having fun fighting new people.

*having balanced populations was and is the devs number one priority for logical reasons, it’s not “ways to increase variety” at the top of the list…

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That has nothing to do with…… anything being argued here.

Sure it does… You brought up server loyalty in your counter argument against the idea, or did you forget to read the quote from you…

With all due respect, I can’t carry a discussion with someone who doesn’t follow the conversation and intentionally deflects.

Have a good day or evening and thanks for the feedback!

The players that care about server loyalty care about having “their home” to defend and fight for. Being able to run together in eotm 2.0 isn’t the same thing….. so no, it doesn’t have anything to do with my arguments.

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Swagger.1459:

“This idea doesn’t fix anything, it just drives away people that play for server loyalty”… So you oppose the 3 faction idea that pools players from servers and used the above in quotes as one counter point, but yet you support and idea of mass scale server hopping and mixing of players…

Being able to tier hop at will for fun and variety doesn’t forcefully separate anyone from their servers. There are players that love defending their home bl, they take pride in it, they still get to do this.

you don’t lose the ability to run with server peeps in the faction model I suggested so your point is moot

Swagger.1459:

More balanced populations must be first or all else fails. Nobody gives a hoot about “variety” when they are outnumbered… Lack of “variety” doesn’t cause people to log in frustration, its getting blown out. “Variety” won’t change the fact that your side is down 50-100k and facing twice your numbers…

Honestly, you don’t seem to have a deeper understanding of rvr gameplay, what state wvw is in and what we have to work with…

You don’t have a deeper understanding of human nature. If people get bored of something they find something else to do.
My main account is on Mag, we are down about 60k right now, and we all knew how the week would turn out since we lack sea coverage, but this week is the most active the server has been since the last time we rolled up to T2 about a month ago. No one cares about winning PPT wars when we are having fun fighting new people.

*having balanced populations was and is the devs number one priority for logical reasons, it’s not “ways to increase variety” at the top of the list…

Bolded.

That has nothing to do with…… anything being argued here.