Guild Wars 2

Swagger.1459:

“This idea doesn’t fix anything, it just drives away people that play for server loyalty”… So you oppose the 3 faction idea that pools players from servers and used the above in quotes as one counter point, but yet you support and idea of mass scale server hopping and mixing of players…

Being able to tier hop at will for fun and variety doesn’t forcefully separate anyone from their servers. There are players that love defending their home bl, they take pride in it, they still get to do this.

Swagger.1459:

More balanced populations must be first or all else fails. Nobody gives a hoot about “variety” when they are outnumbered… Lack of “variety” doesn’t cause people to log in frustration, its getting blown out. “Variety” won’t change the fact that your side is down 50-100k and facing twice your numbers…

Honestly, you don’t seem to have a deeper understanding of rvr gameplay, what state wvw is in and what we have to work with…

You don’t have a deeper understanding of human nature. If people get bored of something they find something else to do.
My main account is on Mag, we are down about 60k right now, and we all knew how the week would turn out since we lack sea coverage, but this week is the most active the server has been since the last time we rolled up to T2 about a month ago. No one cares about winning PPT wars when we are having fun fighting new people.

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Nuzt.7894:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Nuzt.7894:

No harm in trying, at this point if we’re willing to accept more siege and other nonsense that I feel is truly not needed then why the heck not. Worst case scenario, it sucks for a week, we survived Golem week (kind of) so I think after that failure we can survive just about anything.

It already has been tried, it’s called eotm. It failed drastically. It is boycotted by the majority of the WvW playerbase and used as a karma train by pve players.

There would be plenty of harm in trying to test this in real WvW because it isn’t as simple as flipping a switch. How many months would it take to implement this in the game? That’s time taken away from things that would actually help like a decent balance patch so the game is actually fun to play again.

No there really wouldn’t at this point. All this crap we’re voting for lately could potentially do more damage. So why not, might as well go balls to the wall with lawl features.

I don’t think it should be set up quite like EotM though, you are right about that being terrible. Keeps servers and allow colors to server hop/guest. So green could go to any green, blue to any blue, red to any red. If you have queues you can hop to a different matchup, who knows it might even help out that T4 kitten show.

Do it for a week, who knows it might be refreshing to have some variety, just make it so players of X server get priority in Queues over guests. Combine the scores of each color or don’t combine them. In all honesty I could careless what they do with all these new polls, it’s quite evident Anet’s blind to the real issues. So as long as our guild can get some good fights, that’s the only real “fun” left.

imo of course.

Now that is something I’d be down for trying out. That’s a much better suggestion than the suggestion to force everyone into 1 stale blobby match up.

But what happens to your server pride in this scenario of mixed up server hoppers?….

What happens when your home server maps are empty because they are fighting somewhere else?

So if the majority of your server is in another server then that kills the 3 way war scenario for opponents and takes away 33% of potential fights…

You can’t see how this freedom to choose can potentially lead to taking advantage of the system and leads to way unbalanced matches?

RvR is player driven and dependent so you need players on maps with closer to equal numbers for this mode to stay afloat. The individual and linking models have failed on many levels, and too much freedom leads back to what we had and still have. It’s far more logical to pool the overall low wvw population together and balance “things” for 3 sides and 1 match up.

variety is more important than balance. The only reason I’m still playing is because I have multiple accounts and I am not stuck in 1 stale match up for weeks on end.

No, variety is not more important than balance. Goes to show how little you understand what makes rvr gameplay tick with that comment.

Welp, there goes your server pride excuse out the window…

I never said server pride was my reason for playing. There are plenty of people who do play for that reason though. I don’t ignore something just because it doesn’t affect me personally. That’s part of your problem, you only think about what you enjoy rather than how it would affect the community.

And yes variety is more important than balance because it keeps people playing more often. Look at any matchup that had been locked for months, the population of all 3 sides dwindles because they are tired of the same opponents and they know how the match will turn out.

Any time you switch the servers up and people have new opponents a bunch of people that took a break start playing again. There are enough people interested in wvw to queue every server in 4 tiers. We saw that when they did the server pairings. But the staleness of glicko locked fights drove people away out of boredom.

Zenith.7301:

Fluffball.8307:

Zenith.7301:

You wouldn’t know honest, useful information if it poked you in the eye.

Feel free to leave the thread if you’re just in the mood for vague platitudes.

Why are you throwing a fit over what I said? You posted one of the most one-sided, biased, and dishonest reviews of druid that I’ve ever seen. According to you, druids can’t do anything in WvW at all. That’s not useful for a forum based on sharing information rather than just attacking other people until you win the thread and no one wants to read it anymore.

Basically: calm down, we’re all on the same team here. I don’t recognize your name so I’m guessing you don’t main ranger? If you listen to us more experienced rangers (Jim posted some good stuff) you’ll learn how to use ranger effectively in WvW.

lol, you don’t know my name, so I must not main druid.

What kind of self-important dolt would resort to such tortured logic?

I’ve been playing ranger since early closed beta, I don’t need late comers like you telling me what experienced rangers have to say.

Especially some clueless guy who says T1 means nothing because roaming is garbage in T1. Yes, it’s garbage because roaming is useless. That’s what makes a difference between a T1 match up and below, one plays to win and the other doesn’t.

Loooooool.
The difference between T1 and the other tiers is coverage. Plain and simple. I’ve played in every tier and on average T1 had the absolute worst roamers/fighters.
People would actually call out in chat for help taking a camp lol.

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Nuzt.7894:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Nuzt.7894:

No harm in trying, at this point if we’re willing to accept more siege and other nonsense that I feel is truly not needed then why the heck not. Worst case scenario, it sucks for a week, we survived Golem week (kind of) so I think after that failure we can survive just about anything.

It already has been tried, it’s called eotm. It failed drastically. It is boycotted by the majority of the WvW playerbase and used as a karma train by pve players.

There would be plenty of harm in trying to test this in real WvW because it isn’t as simple as flipping a switch. How many months would it take to implement this in the game? That’s time taken away from things that would actually help like a decent balance patch so the game is actually fun to play again.

No there really wouldn’t at this point. All this crap we’re voting for lately could potentially do more damage. So why not, might as well go balls to the wall with lawl features.

I don’t think it should be set up quite like EotM though, you are right about that being terrible. Keeps servers and allow colors to server hop/guest. So green could go to any green, blue to any blue, red to any red. If you have queues you can hop to a different matchup, who knows it might even help out that T4 kitten show.

Do it for a week, who knows it might be refreshing to have some variety, just make it so players of X server get priority in Queues over guests. Combine the scores of each color or don’t combine them. In all honesty I could careless what they do with all these new polls, it’s quite evident Anet’s blind to the real issues. So as long as our guild can get some good fights, that’s the only real “fun” left.

imo of course.

Now that is something I’d be down for trying out. That’s a much better suggestion than the suggestion to force everyone into 1 stale blobby match up.

But what happens to your server pride in this scenario of mixed up server hoppers?….

What happens when your home server maps are empty because they are fighting somewhere else?

So if the majority of your server is in another server then that kills the 3 way war scenario for opponents and takes away 33% of potential fights…

You can’t see how this freedom to choose can potentially lead to taking advantage of the system and leads to way unbalanced matches?

RvR is player driven and dependent so you need players on maps with closer to equal numbers for this mode to stay afloat. The individual and linking models have failed on many levels, and too much freedom leads back to what we had and still have. It’s far more logical to pool the overall low wvw population together and balance “things” for 3 sides and 1 match up.

variety is more important than balance. The only reason I’m still playing is because I have multiple accounts and I am not stuck in 1 stale match up for weeks on end.

Nuzt.7894:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Nuzt.7894:

No harm in trying, at this point if we’re willing to accept more siege and other nonsense that I feel is truly not needed then why the heck not. Worst case scenario, it sucks for a week, we survived Golem week (kind of) so I think after that failure we can survive just about anything.

It already has been tried, it’s called eotm. It failed drastically. It is boycotted by the majority of the WvW playerbase and used as a karma train by pve players.

There would be plenty of harm in trying to test this in real WvW because it isn’t as simple as flipping a switch. How many months would it take to implement this in the game? That’s time taken away from things that would actually help like a decent balance patch so the game is actually fun to play again.

No there really wouldn’t at this point. All this crap we’re voting for lately could potentially do more damage. So why not, might as well go balls to the wall with lawl features.

I don’t think it should be set up quite like EotM though, you are right about that being terrible. Keeps servers and allow colors to server hop/guest. So green could go to any green, blue to any blue, red to any red. If you have queues you can hop to a different matchup, who knows it might even help out that T4 kitten show.

Do it for a week, who knows it might be refreshing to have some variety, just make it so players of X server get priority in Queues over guests. Combine the scores of each color or don’t combine them. In all honesty I could careless what they do with all these new polls, it’s quite evident Anet’s blind to the real issues. So as long as our guild can get some good fights, that’s the only real “fun” left.

imo of course.

Now that is something I’d be down for trying out. That’s a much better suggestion than the suggestion to force everyone into 1 stale blobby match up.

Nuzt.7894:

No harm in trying, at this point if we’re willing to accept more siege and other nonsense that I feel is truly not needed then why the heck not. Worst case scenario, it sucks for a week, we survived Golem week (kind of) so I think after that failure we can survive just about anything.

It already has been tried, it’s called eotm. It failed drastically. It is boycotted by the majority of the WvW playerbase and used as a karma train by pve players.

There would be plenty of harm in trying to test this in real WvW because it isn’t as simple as flipping a switch. How many months would it take to implement this in the game? That’s time taken away from things that would actually help like a decent balance patch so the game is actually fun to play again.

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Swagger.1459:

UmbraNoctis.1907:

WvW is not only about zerging, don’t mix those things up.

I’m well aware thanks.

Are you though? Because you keep ignoring everything i listed and resorting to “what can they do in the blob”

Yeah I’m pretty aware of this profession.

I didn’t ignore anything you listed, perhaps reread my comments and ty to answer those questions instead of deflecting.

Edit- I’ll even refresh your memory…

Swagger.1459:

Ranger is mostly a one trick “run away” pony for roaming and still useless in supporting zergs despite Druid.

Play it in wvw because you like aesthetics of the class, but don’t hope for any sort of meaningful contributions to the team besides tagging stuff for bags.

I already acknowledged your roaming thing you’re stuck on…

And look at my immediate response to that post where I explained how you can work in conjunction with the zerg without 1 spamming in the middle of it. You have a very narrow view of what you think WvW is. There are a lot of ways to get things done without simply forming the biggest blob.

Oh I’m well aware thanks.

Maybe answer my questions and let’s see how much you understand?

Made some edits in that last post so take a look.

Jim Hunter.6821:

And it’s very easy to support zergs, you just operate around the fringes. You prep things for them, you pick off the enemy backline and reinforcements, you open up a back door to a keep while the enemy is focused on your zerg, you keep the enemy focused on you at bay while your zerg takes hills, etc.

I can’t count the amount of times I’ve had a whole pug zerg turn to chase myself and a couple roamers that have been harassing their backline, only to stretch themselves out and get destroyed.

You are doing nothing except keeping this conversation cyclical and deflecting.

Did you read my edits? Do you see where I acknowledge what you said?

Do you do more than roam and duel on your self sustaining build?

Do you know what the Druid was “sold” to us as? Have you ever run that type of build in wvw?

What does ranger bring to the wvw table that other professions can’t or can’t do as well besides longbow 1500?

I’ve already answered your question, you chose to ignore it. Rangers don’t have to be in the middle of the zerg to support a large scale fight, they work better around the periphery, separating and ganking backline players. Druid helps in this by providing more access to stealth and ancient seeds to lock down the players that you have managed to separate from the herd.

I’m assuming what you have been angling at when you kept repeating the same question (and ignoring the answers already provided) is that druids should have a healing role in zergs. I’ve seen players do it but I don’t understand the enjoyment they get from it. I much prefer harassing the enemy.

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Swagger.1459:

UmbraNoctis.1907:

WvW is not only about zerging, don’t mix those things up.

I’m well aware thanks.

Are you though? Because you keep ignoring everything i listed and resorting to “what can they do in the blob”

Yeah I’m pretty aware of this profession.

I didn’t ignore anything you listed, perhaps reread my comments and ty to answer those questions instead of deflecting.

Edit- I’ll even refresh your memory…

Swagger.1459:

Ranger is mostly a one trick “run away” pony for roaming and still useless in supporting zergs despite Druid.

Play it in wvw because you like aesthetics of the class, but don’t hope for any sort of meaningful contributions to the team besides tagging stuff for bags.

I already acknowledged your roaming thing you’re stuck on…

And look at my immediate response to that post where I explained how you can work in conjunction with the zerg without 1 spamming in the middle of it. You have a very narrow view of what you think WvW is. There are a lot of ways to get things done without simply forming the biggest blob.

Oh I’m well aware thanks.

Maybe answer my questions and let’s see how much you understand?

Made some edits in that last post so take a look.

Jim Hunter.6821:

And it’s very easy to support zergs, you just operate around the fringes. You prep things for them, you pick off the enemy backline and reinforcements, you open up a back door to a keep while the enemy is focused on your zerg, you keep the enemy focused on you at bay while your zerg takes hills, etc.

I can’t count the amount of times I’ve had a whole pug zerg turn to chase myself and a couple roamers that have been harassing their backline, only to stretch themselves out and get destroyed.

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Swagger.1459:

UmbraNoctis.1907:

WvW is not only about zerging, don’t mix those things up.

I’m well aware thanks.

Are you though? Because you keep ignoring everything i listed and resorting to “what can they do in the blob”

Yeah I’m pretty aware of this profession.

I didn’t ignore anything you listed, perhaps reread my comments and ty to answer those questions instead of deflecting.

Edit- I’ll even refresh your memory…

Swagger.1459:

Ranger is mostly a one trick “run away” pony for roaming and still useless in supporting zergs despite Druid.

Play it in wvw because you like aesthetics of the class, but don’t hope for any sort of meaningful contributions to the team besides tagging stuff for bags.

I already acknowledged your roaming thing you’re stuck on…

And look at my immediate response to that post where I explained how you can work in conjunction with the zerg without 1 spamming in the middle of it. You have a very narrow view of what you think WvW is. There are a lot of ways to get things done without simply forming the biggest blob.

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Zenral.3958:

The main problem here are bandwagoners migrating back and forth between servers and imbalancing the population that way, I can only assume Anet never addresses this due to the amount of money they get with all the $$$ in gems and transfers.

Which would still happen if they replaced servers with factions.
This idea doesn’t fix anything, it just drives away people that play for server loyalty, and people that don’t enjoy the blobs.

Umm they could relink individual servers within the factions to reach a better state of balance and lock all server transfers for periods of time to current players…

Edit- And you can still organize groups and run with peeps in your servers so it changes nothing. Also, individual server is less significant than the overall health and state of wvw.

If you haven’t noticed there were issues with the individual server vs server model, and there are issues with server linkings as well. Also, I’m feeling pretty positive there are way more people who don’t care about your “server pride” considering the devs stated populations shift over time…

So alienate the people that still do care about it and then lock the factions so the game completely stagnates. Yup that won’t get old real fast.

Zenral.3958:

The main problem here are bandwagoners migrating back and forth between servers and imbalancing the population that way, I can only assume Anet never addresses this due to the amount of money they get with all the $$$ in gems and transfers.

Which would still happen if they replaced servers with factions.
This idea doesn’t fix anything, it just drives away people that play for server loyalty, and people that don’t enjoy the blobs.

Swagger.1459:

UmbraNoctis.1907:

WvW is not only about zerging, don’t mix those things up.

I’m well aware thanks.

Are you though? Because you keep ignoring everything i listed and resorting to “what can they do in the blob”

Swagger.1459:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Swagger.1459:

Ranger is a one trick "run away pony for roaming and still useless in supporting zergs despite Druid.

Play it in wvw because you like aesthetics of the class, but don’t hope for any sort of meaningful contributions to the team besides tagging stuff for bags.

What do you mean by “one trick run away pony”? (seriously asking)
I regularly engage in and win 1v3’s (pulled off higher numbers than that, this is just on a daily basis) or 2vX’s, and I can solo/duo cap, just about anything. If the opposing server is adamant about defending their bl they have to leave a good dozen people to watch their stuff.

And it’s very easy to support zergs, you just operate around the fringes. You prep things for them, you pick off the enemy backline and reinforcements, you open up a back door to a keep while the enemy is focused on your zerg, you keep the enemy focused on you at bay while your zerg takes hills, etc.

I can’t count the amount of times I’ve had a whole pug zerg turn to chase myself and a couple roamers that have been harassing their backline, only to stretch themselves out and get destroyed.

I was generalizing. Ranger is not that great in comparison in wvw.

Let me know how good that heal support role is going as well if you wish.

In comparison to what? Because as far as roaming goes I’d place them at the top of the list for the reasons I’ve already mentioned in this thread. People will argue that thief is better but that’s only because they have an easier time resetting fights. Ranger is better in a 1v1, they can flip objectives easier, and they have the second best mobility.

Swagger.1459:

Ranger is a one trick "run away pony for roaming and still useless in supporting zergs despite Druid.

Play it in wvw because you like aesthetics of the class, but don’t hope for any sort of meaningful contributions to the team besides tagging stuff for bags.

What do you mean by “one trick run away pony”? (seriously asking)
I regularly engage in and win 1v3’s (pulled off higher numbers than that, this is just on a daily basis) or 2vX’s, and I can solo/duo cap, just about anything. If the opposing server is adamant about defending their bl they have to leave a good dozen people to watch their stuff.

And it’s very easy to support zergs, you just operate around the fringes. You prep things for them, you pick off the enemy backline and reinforcements, you open up a back door to a keep while the enemy is focused on your zerg, you keep the enemy focused on you at bay while your zerg takes hills, etc.

I can’t count the amount of times I’ve had a whole pug zerg turn to chase myself and a couple roamers that have been harassing their backline, only to stretch themselves out and get destroyed.

Why is it T1 players always have to state they are in T1 like that is supposed to mean something? T1 roaming is garbage. T1 “roam groups” are 20 man parties trying to pick off zerglings.

Lol can’t you just bump one of your old threads? You make this same suggestion once a week in brands new threads.

Even if barrage hit harder it would be suicide to use it against a zerg because of retal. Ranger will never be useful in a zerg until they give retal an internal cooldown/make it based on a percentage of received damage.

Ranger is still a top tier roamer though. Some of the best mobility in game, pets make it super easy to solo camps, towers, even keeps if you have enough time, and they are great 1v1 fighters when you aren’t trying to contest a point.

Condi longbow is still fun and it didn’t eat any nerfs in the last patch.

Tragic Positive.9356:

We were one of the very few who actually believed the developers and always tried to work around the nerfs they threw at us, while other classes (warriors and eles, mostly) kept craving their insults and complaints at almost every buff they got. And the fun fact was that they were buffed again.

Squeaky wheel get’s the grease.
As long as rangers keep rolling over and taking the constant nerfs/being the bottom of the barrel profession anet isn’t going to bother spending time fixing us.

Really annoyed that this wasn’t looked at with the recent patch. Retal needs to be fixed right after you get rid of the baseline venoms.

HazyDaisy.4107:

Segal.9450:

Blind this cata ! – missed the wall xD

Nonsense, why blind the cata when you can fear it.

Just had a weird mental image of a cata bouncing away

bearshaman.3421:

A little patience isn’t much to ask.

yeah I mean it’s only been 4 years, c’mon guys be a little patient…

TheFantasticGuy.7206:

On a side note: I’ve started playing Overwatch and it’s made me see how bad Anet is at balancing PVP.

^yup

Chris.5961:

u have to hit an enemy

I’ve spent the last hour roaming WvW and had no problem with it in several fights.

Korgov.7645:

Still missing a response. Come to think of it, none of the possible answers is appealing.

1. It was an oversight. Oops, sorry. The game is just too complex to get any changes in without iteration.
2. The developers have carefully evaluated the feature from WvW point of view and this feature actually makes things simpler in WvW context.
3. PvE developers didn’t like how their Golem Rush/Repair Hammer/Cannon Blueprints/Vertical Design ideas were received and now they’re are taking a kitten on WvW players.
4. Fractals has the priority and whatever makes the Fractals tick better can trample lesser game modes, like WvW.

Sorry for the bitter tone. Maybe there is a perfectly good answer around the corner.

You forgot one.
Certain special children operate under the assumption that “If you like WvW, you’re really into PvE”….

I’m not having that problem

umm…. they didn’t?
Were you in WvW? Yhe skill delay has been redonkulous lately

kitten.7492:

And defensive siege is much weaker than before due to the fact that the siege dmg against siege wasn’t doubled gg Anet
And again a change that extremely supports the lager blob \Ö/
But don’t get me wrong, I may not like condies but the change of the dmg system vs. siege is ok, having in mind that it supports the diversity in WvW

Yup cuz no one was running condi before….

Razor.9872:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Razor.9872:

I believe it is working as intended. Allowing it to spike in functionality with piercing attacks or aoe attacks would be too much imo.

Wut…..

Applying aoe bleed with this skill would be too much. It is fine as-is.

You realize it’s only 6 bleeds right? It’s definitely not “fine as-is”, it’s still not worth the utility slot it takes up. Even on a crit bleed build I’m better off using QZ to apply extra bleeds because QZ has the versatility of being a stun break and a good escape tool.

This is why I suggested a while back that it needed something useful added to it, like making us unblockable for 5 seconds to counter all the projectile hate added to the game with HoT.

Excepting mediocre buffs like this as being “fine” in the same patch that gives us another bunch of nerfs is a big part of why rangers are in such a sad state. I’d love to be able to have a reasonable discussion with the dev’s but history has shown us that the only way to get through to anet is to make a big kittening deal out of their neglect, or have a popular streamer showcase what a kitten job they are doing.

Crapgame.6519:

Kilrik.6320:

Additionally guard is often part of builds following the nature magic/ beastmaster setup so it’s nerf hurts as well. The might remains I suppose but 33% is just protection and you still have to sacrifice the health of your pet. As a consolation couldn’t they just make it protection, keep the might to your pet and call it a day. Why does there always have to be a trade off for rangers like with empathic bond and signet of renewal. 50% seemed reasonable, because you were sacrificing your pet.

Not sure what format of play you are talking about but I will say from the primary meta I play, WvW, this is what I ran. NM/BM sustain with protection slotted…

What is even more ironic is that over the last couple of days this discussion came up about how they could tone down Druids and it always landed back on our sustain. Looks like we had some forethought. Wish I’d have that playing the lottery and not solely with GW2…

The problem is they nerfed sustain without adding anything useful. People would be a lot less kittened off if the balanced patches actually… you know…. balanced the class.

Anet has a history of taking rangers useful stuff and nerfing the kitten out of it in the hopes we will decide to use the other kittenty stuff. But since they didn’t buff the stuff they wanted us using we are just left with multiple kittenty options.

inb4 zergs start loading up the (now double health) cannons with condi’s and using epidemic to destroy the sad souls desperately trying to defend their structures. Glad this was introduced in the same patch that you made venoms baseline so the defenders are doubly kittened. Good troll anet.

At least this is now a thing
-North Keep: One of the village residents will now flee if their home is destroyed.

Razor.9872:

I believe it is working as intended. Allowing it to spike in functionality with piercing attacks or aoe attacks would be too much imo.

Wut…..

Korgov.7645:

What do fractals have to do with WvW?

^ this.
@anet: Quit trying to make me play your stupid kitten pve by removing things I’ve earned through WvW. Either add the new infusions to the WvW laurel vendor or let me slot the ones that you removed from my gear and mailed back to me.

Seriously…. how did you not learn that it was a bad idea to try and force players out of the game modes they enjoy into your grindfest pve after the HoT mass exodus?

Yeah I use both traits, they work fine together, especially when you have a thief on your kitten .

Zenith.7301:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Zenith.7301:

You’re probably not very good at mesmer if you’re getting beat by druid, as druids are weak to condi spam and mesmer got that in spades.

So basically, get yourself some trailblazer gear, runes of perplexity for the confusion, a staff, scepter and pistol, trait Prismatic understanding and get decoy and mass invis, blink, and mantra of distraction.

The ranger will die to conditions, or he will have to run away, and your stealth will make the ranger’s pet kitten and interrupt their burst skill.

Don’t be bad and run power mesmer. Power mesmer is trash, especially power shatter.

Gross. Why would anyone encourage people to play a kittenty plex condi mesmer….

A good power mesmer is much scarier than a boring kitten condi mes. Condi mesmer is like condi thief, they arent particularly dangerous unless you over commit, they are just annoying as hell to fight.

Because this druid build is also gross and basically a bunker build with stealth resets. This druid build also only beats players who over commit, as druid does jackkitten for damage and the pets won’t hit anyone who’s moving so the druid needs to kite you around the pet for the pet to land hits at all.

Power mesmer is trash. It is weak to thieves, it is weak to warriors, it is weak to scrappers, it is weak to about any condi build.

The duelist/roaming build for a mesmer is condi, sorry you are so bitter about losing to them.

Where did I say I lose to condi mesmers? I specifically said a good power mesmer is much scarier than a condi mes. I don’t run a bunker druid. I run a glassy hybrid build with good condi removal that wrecks most condi mesmers. If I run into one that’s build counters mine I simply move on and they don’t have the burst damage to stop me.

This is why condi mesmer is mediocre when roaming. Roaming isn’t dueling, you don’t have to fight people with kittenty builds on their terms.

Heibi.4251:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Heibi.4251:

- nowhere in this thread did I say ANeT couldn’t play their own game.

They just have to play it by your made up rules right?

No, I want ANeT to play by their rules, and they have not made an official policy where this is involved. ANeT is the ruler of this game. The ruler must be impartial or at least establish rules that they as admins must play by.

What would be nice here would be for an official response to come down on either side of this discussion. People telling me I’m wrong does not change the fact that ANeT is supposed to be the representative of ALL the players. I will continue until an official policy is established.

They are playing by their rules. Their rules just happen to be the same as everyone elses. Claiming structures is something anyone can do.

If you see someone with an anet tag walk into a friendly structure, swap servers, 1 shot the lord, cap and claim for another server, then you will have a valid complaint.
Right now you are literally complaining about nothing more than finding proof that at least 1 anet employee actually plays WvW. And by making such a ridiculous complaint all you are going to do is discourage them from playing it which will lead to them ignoring it for several more years.

Quit trying to place arbitrary restrictions on them and go back to playing the game.

Heibi.4251:

- nowhere in this thread did I say ANeT couldn’t play their own game.

They just have to play it by your made up rules right?

Zenith.7301:

You’re probably not very good at mesmer if you’re getting beat by druid, as druids are weak to condi spam and mesmer got that in spades.

So basically, get yourself some trailblazer gear, runes of perplexity for the confusion, a staff, scepter and pistol, trait Prismatic understanding and get decoy and mass invis, blink, and mantra of distraction.

The ranger will die to conditions, or he will have to run away, and your stealth will make the ranger’s pet kitten and interrupt their burst skill.

Don’t be bad and run power mesmer. Power mesmer is trash, especially power shatter.

Gross. Why would anyone encourage people to play a kittenty plex condi mesmer….

A good power mesmer is much scarier than a boring kitten condi mes. Condi mesmer is like condi thief, they arent particularly dangerous unless you over commit, they are just annoying as hell to fight.

DeceiverX.8361:

XerMeLL.6042:

Please add a kill death ratio for every players in wvw, please anet. With weekly or monthly reset or permanent record.

Kind of impossible since the score is based on just deaths. A kill would only be creditable if a foe took 100% of its damage from a single person, for then just going by kill credit by tagging, a group of 30 could tag one random guy and each of them would push a KDA. Eles and AoE classes in zergs would have tremendous scores considering it’s common that on a given death they’ll rack up many, many assists.

Man it would be hilarious to see all the eotm zerglings kittening about losing their ultimate dominator titles if kills required you to do something like 75% of the damage.
They would have to create new titles like ultimate helper monkey, or ultimate 1 spammer.

Eypheha.5831:

Let’s see…Mag runs a blob twice the size of anything they go up against when they’re on…more kills.

Then when they’re not able to produce that…they have nobody on….less deaths.

Wow..what a great idea. Don’t believe me? Look at the history of their last battle. Scores go from 400+ to less than a hundred. Ya can’t kill what ain’t there.

Yeah… sorry, I have a jq account too. I get to see the fight from both sides. jq will have the map queued when mag doesn’t and jq will be losing the fights (against the pug zerg) and losing everything else on the map to small roaming groups.

Eypheha.5831:

KDR is the result of overwhelming odds in most case, not skill.

Yeah guys, nevermind the fact mag is the smallest server in their matchup or that they were dominating kdr during reset when all 3 sides had map queues…… wait….

With how easy they are to defend (especially with that stupid sentry upgrade) I think it’s fair that they take time to upgrade.

displayname.8315:

Sure and JQ SEA rolls over everything with pure skill. I guess KDR should just be called skill to death ratio.

Capping empty towers doesn’t contribute to kdr…

Meh, in large scale fights condi is countered by near perma resistance boon share and condi clear. Same goes for organized small scale groups. Condi’s are manageable in 1v1’s if you are built properly.
Basically they are only a problem if you are unorganized and allowing your group to get picked apart, or if you are heavily outnumbered (in which case you will still likely die to power builds).

The only real problem is Anet is unwilling to balance the game modes separately and they broke certain things to make them more viable for pve. The best example of this is giving confusion a passive tick.

Dadnir.5038:

I even wonder if they don’t share CD on their F2 ability.

Varies from patch to patch. They didn’t when they were first introduced, then they did later on, then the f2 would appear to be on cooldown but you could still use it…. not sure where it’s at now.

Pinko.2076:

Jeknar.6184:

Aphs.9528:

1. Maguuma- Ratio: 1.89

Let the jerking begin… #Magswag

more like: let the train of rationalizations on why Mag has been top KDR in literally every matchup they’ve had besides “the server houses more quality players on average” begin

Right?
My favorite complaint is, "it’s not fair because mag stacked itself with veteran players. "

I can’t speak for other people but I’ve moved my accounts around a good bit and the reason I’ve kept my main account on mag since moving there is because I can count on random pugs to hold there own in a fight. I can see 4 players try to gank 1 mag roamer and I’ll jump in confidant that we can win.

Jerus.4350:

joneirikb.7506:

Short version, ANet set down the foot, said you’re not getting it earlier, due to their release schedule of patches for friday if needed. Several threads ongoing about this, last one got locked. You’ll have to search to find the full stuff.

In short, just be glad it isn’t saturday.

Seems to make sense to me. Yeah it’d be ideal if it could be earlier but with how patches are making sure they have time to take care of any issues sounds pretty smart to me.

Doesn’t make sense at all. What kind of idiots would push out a patch on Friday right before they are supposed to go home for the weekend? Wouldn’t Monday be a much better day to put out potentially game breaking patches?

And in the 3 years when reset was an hour earlier, patches interfered with it maybe twice?

It’s a bullkitten excuse.

Swagger.1459:

Electra.7530:

Individual server linking has been decent? Well, I’m not so sure about that. All I know is that there are 7 servers linked against my 2 servers. I can’t understand that. Why on God’s green earth would Anet link 4 servers together for one, then link 3 servers together for another one and then link 2 servers together. Why is it decent that my 2 server linked side is facing up against a quad linked server and a triad linked server? 4 + 3 = 7 against 2.

I don’t understand.

The devs are doing a great job at salvaging wvw so far. The linking has been helpful, generated some interest again and made matches a bit better balanced. I feel linking is the ok emergency fix, but I can’t see it as a long term resolution because of the constant shifting of players around on such a large scale, along with still having population disparities.

The tech is there to make a 3 sided faction possible, so I think long term it would be best overall to make that happen for many different reasons. There would be some growing pains, but I feel we can get to a point where stronger and more consistent communities form and matches may be more balanced at anytime of day or night. If we get the right amount of maps in play it could happen pretty flawlessly.

Flawlessly…..
What’s to stop people from stacking on the winning faction?
What will keep the match ups from stagnating when you are faced with the same opponents every week?

What exactly would this fix?

The only thing this would really change is you would be removing the option to transfer in search of fresh fights…. which only makes things worse.

Electra.7530:

Individual server linking has been decent? Well, I’m not so sure about that. All I know is that there are 7 servers linked against my 2 servers. I can’t understand that. Why on God’s green earth would Anet link 4 servers together for one, then link 3 servers together for another one and then link 2 servers together. Why is it decent that my 2 server linked side is facing up against a quad linked server and a triad linked server? 4 + 3 = 7 against 2.

I don’t understand.

The only thing wrong with the quad server is that it’s in the wrong tier and glicko won’t allow it to move. With a winner up/loser down system they would have swapped places with SoS or Sbi after the first week and tier 3 and 4 would both have much better match ups.

The elite trap skill should be a trapper kit that replaces you’re weapon skills with 5 traps.

They can either roll the current traps into it so we have access to better utilities while running trapper, or they can create new ones.