Guild Wars 2

Lupanic.6502:

Engi is simply not one of the strongest classes in PvP right now. We are not as bad as ele is. But we see the bottom of the list.

Yes we are.

Temariah.9372:

Considering that Engy is not my main, I really don’t like the idea of all my damage coming from something besides my weapons. I felt like Pistols had pretty decent sustained condi damage. Is that incorrect?

Also, I never thought of Rampager gear. Isn’t it impossibly glassy?

PvE meta is getting really high dps while still giving support. Aka Zerk/Rampagers + knowing how to dodge.

Engi weapons are all pretty “okay” (Other than shield which is God), Kits are the reason we don’t have a weapon swap, so not using at least one puts you at a disadvantage automatically.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

why do pvp players think they should have what pve players have while not wanting to play pve? u want it play pve then.

They want it to USE IN PVP.

NevirSayDie.6235:

I have three accounts lol.3859:

Lupanic.6502:

Is a build for Engineer existing to beat a MM necro

MM power/defence necro is an easy kill for Bomb/Nade imo – just kite the minions through the aoe.

If the minion necro just gets his minions on top of his full condition equipment its a different story though.

Power engineer builds do pretty all right vs. condition necros. Not amazing, but much better than condition engineers. SD or power/control nades both work. I don’t think power HGH would do that well, but I haven’t seen it tried.

Power control can take out condi necros pretty easily if played well.

Xavi.6591:

Someone recently said that Sigil of Torment is still broken and has no ICD. Can anyone confirm?

Also I love when my Torment hits and my opponent takes 12k damage. Thieves lolol.

It’s not that it doesn’t have an ICD, it does, at 7 seconds. It just doesn’t share its ICD with other on swap/on crit sigils, like most do.

Cynz.9437:

Aberrant.6749:

Eng is among the bottom 3 downed states… if not the worst. The single target pull (#2) is a projectile and very easily countered and cc’s for the shortest period of time. #3 is an aoe knockback and blast finisher (‘cause that’s useful when you’re downed) and does decent damage but it’s otherwise just on par with guards #2 but on a cooldown that’s too long and you’ll rarely get to use it due to the rubbish that is #2.

Elixir R isn’t what it used to be… not by a longshot ->http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Toss_Elixir_R. The utility skill used to be a stunbreak as well as and endurance recover, but that got nuked-> http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elixir_R It’s really not worth taking anymore.

I agree that the knockbacks/aoe on eng are nice though ^^

I don’t have a problem with the downed state itself, just the redic healing you can do while ressing downed and the ressing from defeated (makes chipping away at a larger force nearly impossible).

i think this person would disagree lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrKg_TSP47E

yes this happens all the time and is class defining.

Age: 1006 hours on engi
2748 hours total.

2335 deaths

20,266 Kills, am a roamer.

Other:
38g
0 Legendaries.
2 1/2 sets of ascended trinkets.
1 ascended Knights weapon that I got from a chest.
80s: Guard, Engi, Ranger, Mesmer.
Few sets of cultural armor (Asura Engi, Human guardian)

I find it funny that people in solo queue complain about people who successfully cap far point.

I understand that if you FAIL to cap far point, it is bad, so don’t fail.

urieldhynne.2743:

borrok.9267:

Another good week of roaming =D

Roaming in this matchup is awful. Everyone run away if they don’t outnumber you. There is only hunters and rifle/bow warrior to carrion kills from outnumbered fights from 1200/1500 range without enter in combat. And the 50% are uplevels.

Sadly mostly ET. With the exception of some really few roamers (really few) and Basic [BS] who is a GREAT clan with excellent roamers and duelist.

Is not about win or lose, is not about be a pro or noob, is about to fight for fun, win or lose, have fun. Not to run away and spam #1 in a 20 vs 2 fight.

I miss FC, they have excellent roamers.

<3

Solo roaming this matchup is kinda bad, but small group roaming has been above average, fun-wise.

FC has lots of good roamers, but they’re playing with the big kids atm.

melodey.4652:

Jeknar.6184:

People aren’t posting because they think the forum is dead, or this matchup is just really dead?

Wouldn’t want to interrupt the ANBU/BS bromance conversation. The rest of us ladies are waiting on the side of the dance floor letting you two get it on in peace.

We already kittened, so now we’re in that awkward, silent part of the relationship.

ellesee.8297:

you can do that. but wheni play engi bunker, which is never so take whatever i say with a grain of salt, i feel setting up kills is paramount. net and overcharged shot are amazing.

Plus, for pvp, overcharge shot + net combo for decaps.

Blackhat.9164:

StaR guild do YOU have anyone that can 1v1 at all???????????????????????????????????????????????????

There was one star warrior at fight night who was using what I believe was Wilson’s build.

he died a lot

E: omg question marks

Renny.6571:

Seems like the most logical place. The flaming/trolling/boasting/complaining/crying/hackusations/etc will go on! ..But this time, with avatars!

It’s an upgrade!

CRrabbit.1284:

DaedSaint.6190:

I have run with this same thief with far less tanky guard builds against 5-10 enemies many times. Can’t win every time but we have a high success rate.

Well I can hardly imagine 2 VS 5-10 you still have a high success rate. This is basically highly broken in balance if this is true no matter what class you played or against. Skill wise, good player/team can handle 2x number of players (extremely good VS bad), this is the limit, If you can win 5x number — it means the game is broken.

You probably haven’t seen just how bad players can be.

Avatar of Belle.9623:

BS vs ANBU [15v15] Ele POV

Rounds 2 thru 5 (forgot to record until round 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0r_3VmmXvc

Please ignore the Charr guardian that was embarrassingly dead the entirety of round 2.

/hides in shame

Also ignore the dead engi dead in round 5.

Apparently using Mortar makes you a target, fellow engineers.

david.9152:

1)is the engineer really that hard to play?
2)what is the engineers playstyle?
3)when do i use the kits

1: It’s not a warrior and it’s not an ele. Sure.

2. wot

3. When you need them. 0-1 sec cd on swap.

Rabid trinkets for crit procs.

5x good players running what they’re good with.

Well as an engi, i have to play perfectly to beat necros due to them having condi transfer, more HP, good access to CC (Which does 1.3k damage per second, I might add), and better cleanse unless I respec into trolololol AR.

losieight.4807:

DI is better than BS in a lot of things. Organizing is a big one. We only do so well in GvG because we run builds that are meant to take enough dps and be able to run away from it, most zerg guilds that run the meta can’t counter that.

Please don’t talk down because i will personally merk you with my ragtag team of QQ friends, then you really will be crying.

QQ is bad.

Uhm, I feel Automated Medical Response is better than speedy kits by itself.

On top of passive move speed…

Assassin X.8573:

GOD kitten TI [DI] IS TOTAL kitten! yo uguys cant oanytngin for yourselves! kitten kitten kitten you rely on BS and the the whole of ET to kittenign support you. kitten. terrible terrible kittening players.

Darn kittens.

DI btw how did you kitten ANBU off

Sad to hear I missed our gvg with StaR due to computer issues.

Heard it was fun, hope I can take part next time.

you’re getting killed by d/d thieves as an engi?

Bennywise.3210:

Iiiiinnnnnkkkkkkyyyyyy!!!

beeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyy

Avatar of Belle.9623:

Guys, Guys. ET is the Kingdom of roamers. As a roamer, I only use siege as tombstones for my fallen foes. That may be why you see bad siege placement everywhere.

We had a great 4v4 GvG with TV today. Thank you for the good fights and being good sports.

If anybody else is interested in GvG with BS, we are available all week. Contact me or party with any of the BS members that are always roaming.

y so bad BS

Warjin.8942:

That’s the word I would use to describe the Engineer class, I have played every class, ever build, some classes and builds weaker then others some overpowered, but as for this class every single build is weak, clunky or lacking, and the ones that are considered strong are nothing more then gimick specs example (100 ballz), this class needs an overhaul, it’s not working i’m sorry, it’s not on par with the other classes in terms of game play.

I love the idea and the concept but the execution is flawed.

I love this class, thanks.

Kagamiku.9731:

K U T M.4539:

So do I, as I know how to block/dodge/blind. Outplaying someone on an easy build doesn’t make it any less OP.

Yes it does. It’s an easy to play and play against build. That is why you outplayed them, after all. “Oh look, I spank hammer warriors but they need to be nerfed” kittened.

Except when I get on hammer warrior, I can roll right over the same people I beat on engi with less than an eight of the thought.

skyhawk.5149:

Jeknar.6184:

skyhawk.5149:

I guess thats what i get for taking PuGs with me =\

I don’t understand the problems that most people/commanders say to have with the pugs on ET… Seriously, I never had half of the problems I hear you guys complaining about.

Nah i was just saying Pugs don’t usually give me combo fields or lay the right combo fields when i ask for it. So it results in little speed boost for the group, and less might stacking and other buffs that can help in a pinch. I accept it to when commanding Pugs, and i don’t complain about it (ok maybe i do but i was joking about it) but it was nice to run with a zerg that is organized once in a while.

i throw light fields at all times.

ToaLux.6478:

Hey guys, same as last week, we’ll try to have a Fight Club at 5pm server time (3 hours from now). If you can come, please do! I haven’t had any duels for a decent while, but I’ll be there. Also, I’m a bit sick, so when I inevitably do something stupid, you’ll get to laugh at least

Moving on..
GoM’s definitely going to move up in the teirs now for sure! We were the first server to develop landsharks as of a few weeks ago, and now we’re moving on to greater things. I present to you GoM’s new X-Ray vision. We know when you are sleeping; we know when you’re awake. We know if you’ve been bad or good, so be good for this forum’s sake!

Also, a quote from the astute developers behind this technology:
“All your base are belong to us.”

Fil stop bullying people pls.

Ashanor.5319:

K U T M.4539:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

K U T M.4539:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

jportell.2197:

Treborlavok.3504:

Kagamiku.9731:

Warrior was nerfed last patch and the QQ became even stronger. Give whiners the feeling that their opinions can influence an outcome, and you’ll never get rid of them.

Yea I know it’s sad.

Honestly ppl just need to let these threads die.

Except warriors can clear condis better than guards, do good damage, have great survivability and great mobility… without sacrificing… Its kind of ridiculous really.

its working as intended. we sacrifice the ability to do ridiculous amount of damage in a very short period in order to have the above you mentioned.

What do you sacrifice, exactly?

hmmm i dun do ridiculous burst damage.

Soldier hammer/longbow wars can do 3-4k Earthshakers followed by a 3k backbreaker, and then about the same with Combustive shot and arcing arrow.

If you don’t think that’s ridiculous for being tanky as hell, well, you should probably try another class with soldiers amulet and see how much damage you do.

What is this? Most of the abilities you mentioned just got hit hard with the nerf bat last patch. Get out of here already. I don’t even play hammer and I spank pretty much every warrior that does, whether playing my warrior or thief.

So do I, as I know how to block/dodge/blind. Outplaying someone on an easy build doesn’t make it any less OP.

1. Yes, sigils work like that.

2. wot

3. EG/Elixir S/Slick shoes probably give us our best stunbreaks. I personally run without one. Dropping EG for another stunbreak would be pointless.

4. I bought Rabid, then Apoth, then a mix of Soldiers/Zerk/Cav/Valk for a dps spec, then another set of Rabid. I haven’t really been able to find a good way to use Rampagers gear. Apoth is good for a bunker healing spec (Only really good in wvw/pvp).

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

K U T M.4539:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

jportell.2197:

Treborlavok.3504:

Kagamiku.9731:

Warrior was nerfed last patch and the QQ became even stronger. Give whiners the feeling that their opinions can influence an outcome, and you’ll never get rid of them.

Yea I know it’s sad.

Honestly ppl just need to let these threads die.

Except warriors can clear condis better than guards, do good damage, have great survivability and great mobility… without sacrificing… Its kind of ridiculous really.

its working as intended. we sacrifice the ability to do ridiculous amount of damage in a very short period in order to have the above you mentioned.

What do you sacrifice, exactly?

hmmm i dun do ridiculous burst damage.

Soldier hammer/longbow wars can do 3-4k Earthshakers followed by a 3k backbreaker, and then about the same with Combustive shot and arcing arrow.

If you don’t think that’s ridiculous for being tanky as hell, well, you should probably try another class with soldiers amulet and see how much damage you do.

Ghotistyx.6942:

I’ve been really wanting to run a 5 Guard group with full Settler’s/Apoth, stacking Battle Presence, and (somehow) stacking Permeating Wrath. I want to see clouds of little green and red numbers fly.

Needs to come just in time for Christmas.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

jportell.2197:

Treborlavok.3504:

Kagamiku.9731:

Warrior was nerfed last patch and the QQ became even stronger. Give whiners the feeling that their opinions can influence an outcome, and you’ll never get rid of them.

Yea I know it’s sad.

Honestly ppl just need to let these threads die.

Except warriors can clear condis better than guards, do good damage, have great survivability and great mobility… without sacrificing… Its kind of ridiculous really.

its working as intended. we sacrifice the ability to do ridiculous amount of damage in a very short period in order to have the above you mentioned.

What do you sacrifice, exactly?

Phlogus.2371:

I always wondered if we would get some good press in the forums for BRL. Hard work over a long period of time to build the guild up and now. NOW I see we get true love. The crying gif is fantastic and I couldn’t have asked for anything more precious. TY, ty, ty.
With the match forums being eliminated bitter tears fall.

who is brl

Oozo.7856:

flow.6043:

Ugh, they’re not just random pugs who run after any red name tag like zombies… but it’s a guild. 15v3? And then this reaction like they “owned” you now? Just pathetic.

Good job on making them waste some blueprints

This movie would explain why they did it. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6FoQ3bWhE0

Better nerf necros.

I sometimes get on thief and just 2222222222222222222 in pvp and see how many people die. Then I laugh at them because of how bad they have to be to lose to something like that.

teg.1340:

@Ambrecombe: Thanks for that info. Do you know how it works for stacks of conditions? E.g. I have 5 stacks of bleed on me. Does all 5 stacks get converted from me to the enemy or just one?

All 5.

Pyroatheist.9031:

Mesmers have the easiest access to the best stunbreakers of any class. Stability is not even close to necessary.

And that being said, there’s a mantra that provides 4 seconds of stability on a 25 second cooldown.

this.

I think thief is the only other class that can get away with using 3x stunbreaks.

Ludus Rex.1562:

Silv.9207:

I agree whit Ludus.
There’s only 2 class that can’t obtain passive speed buff: Guardian and Engi. But engi can obtain permanente swiftness.

Actually, Engineers have this now. Power Shoes got fixed to work outside of combat. Guess they decided that it was unfair for Engineers not to have 25% run speed activate all the time on their trait, since everyone else has access to this.

Yup…everybody else…

’cept for mesmers.

Mindtrick.5190:

My guard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgkPRdXTxr8

we all know how hard playing healway in a zergball is

I swapped nade CD trait for IP after the nerf, and picked up shrapnel.

The bleeds it can stack through nades is pretty amazing.

Harbinger.8637:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

All is vain.

ENDREBUILD.7053:

This is legendary along the lines of “sword in box” from star wars years ago.

can you make sword in box light sword so sword come out when opened? then if sword is back after sword, use light saber on box, and saber will be boxed after sword is out.

never forget

Never let that thread die.

Jereme.1840:

bob.8632:

Jereme.1840:

I’ll leave you with some words from Agg #GetGud

And I will leave you with some words from MU (since we are quoting):

10/0/30/30/0 or 0/0/30/30/10

nah I roll. 14/14/14/14/14.

who cares

fix your keybinds

It’s easier to take a fully upgraded camp than it is to take a t1 camp with a single player with half of a brain in it.

Killing people in their own camps is more fun though

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Why are people still complaining about perplexity runes? It has a decent length ICD now. It requires skilled timing to use them to their full potential. I don’t see how this is still an issue.

no it doesnt hahahahaha

edit: Actually, come to think of it, I don’t think a lot of players in this game count cooldowns.

So maybe keeping track of an 8 sec icd is “Skillful” for players, but w/e,

Most fire field aoe’s do direct damage as well as applying the condition Burn.

Caltrops do nothing but apply bleeding and cripple.