Guild Wars 2

Shiro was all about mobility, something other legends simply do not provide. This in turn will hurt entire class.

101 of how to make fun class less fun by ANet :P

It steadily becomes less and less fun with more and more CDs. How thieves would like CDs on their INI skills?

I agree with Phase Traversal failing very often. Then you’re down on energy and have to wait 5s… . Lazy nerf.

So why are you nerfing REV before fixing bugs?

When will you fix Hammer 2,3,5 so it is actually hitting consistently? When will you fix Sword 3 so it doesn’t get put on CD without doing anything and/or stopping because of a wall ? When will you fix Sword 5 to actually pull stuff and not just tele back 95% of the time without pulling (non-defiance enemies!). When will you fix Forced Engagement so it actually does what it’s supposed to do ? Taunt not actually taunting even though enemies have no defiance bar or it’s broken?

So many bugs but hey, lets nerf rev before fixing them because no logic.

Yup, we definitely need to put cooldowns on thief’s skills. We can’t have them stay without CD even though they need to manage initiative. Slap 5s CD on skills 2-5 on every weapon.

Doesn’t make it anyless boring.

It basically penalizes any thought process about how to approach a fight and puts even more pressure on switching legends on CD.

Now it penalizes for having 50+ energy for these situations where you want to have skills ready to use and not find yourself starving for it.

This is dumb. Makes the energy mechanic even more of an illusion. If i had 100 energyh I could Phase + Riposting + Phase back. Now I phase, riposting and then stand like an idiot for 5 sec, run to enemy, switch to ranged weapoins because stupid CD pena;izes my forward thinking (and thus gathering more energy).

Rev’s do not have much mobility outside Shiro so what do they do ? Nerf shiro because rev cannot have mobility! Preposterous!

Something will always be the lowest:P That’s how polls/voring works.

Too bad Scrapper is still in the same dumpster.

Traps were too good. They got nerfed.

ArenaNet’s Rules
1) Traps can never be good
2) if traps are good then look at 1) and proceed to 3)
3) nerf until 1) is met

My experience thus far is that it could cease to exists and I wouldn’t notice the difference. In PVE thus far I managed to use it twice… . Worst elite spec mechanic of all. So disappointing. Fallout 4 can’t come fast enough…

Magoslich.6857:

Charr aren’t flat faced but I think you could still get that sort of straight vertical look by projecting it a bit farther and make it look more like the artwork. The only thing I don’t like about the newer version, which does look better, is that it does stick so closely to the charr’s head, like a skullcap and very thin on top.

Technically that would ridiculously narrow the field of view :P I prefer how it looks atm tbh.

With nerfbats flying our way and addition of even more cooldowns it’s no wonder.

Skill is crap vs any sort of minion class and on 2+ targets.

GG. Slowly killing the entire purpose of the freaking energy. Lets nerf it to kitten. Make all CD’s 15s and then there’s basically no kitten reason to have energy.

Next it will be Riposting Shadows to get 5s CD and then we have entire LEgend with CDs basically destroying the purpose of energy and using skills as energy allows and NOT as cooldowns allow. Disappointed as kitten. More and more cooldowns are finding their way into Rev and it becomes less and less unique. Just give us cooldowns then and scrap the entire energy idea if you cannot balance it.

Bitter player is bitter. At least after learning my lesson due to terrible Customer Support I vowed never to buy anything for money from gemshop.

No. That was first iteration as in it was possible to hit and cc rev while doing this and the skill was basically useless.

There also is counterplay to it and rev does have weaknesses. Learn more about the class and level up your game instead of complaining without any merit whatsoever about a class about which you have no understanding.

It also doesn’t have 8s CD. Please L2P and this is an honest advice.

I had opportunity to use function gyro ONCE since the release of the game. Such great mechanic, much wow.

I won’t change my look on current mechanic. It’s lazy, uninspired, boring and downright bad.

That as well. Mnemesis.

Taldren.7523:

Rym.1469:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQRApX8unfN2gSuJvQRHlboskyPU4S5IKor8EllTlRNjQKJNgCWwe93vH-TZhHwAAOIAjPCABeAAj2fwYZAA

That’s what I’ve been running in PvP.

I am running something similar (for testing) except I use:
1. Superior Rune of the Aristocracy (Condition Damage + Might Duration)
2. I use Hammer often over S+S and when I do I will take Crystal Hibernation instead of Soothing Bastion.
3. I am currently trying Rabid over Celestial … and plan on trying Sinister once I can afford to unlock it.

Sinister is a waste really. Dire for condi rev is better. Rabid is meh as well due to rev having easy +40% crit from fury with traits.

Oraxis.9705:

Ventari + Facet of Light from Glint

And how do you do any dmg then ? Lol.

Oraxis.9705:

Ok, Revenant is unbelieveably overpowered in all game modes. Any class that can, with its elite specialization, do two full heals in a row with little complexity to the class is a broken class. Playtesters constantly told Anet that the class was broken but they decided to ignore us.

Your post has 0 merit. How about you try again?

Ronnie Hu.1694:

6/10

bladed armor chest in RNG is terrible idea.

itzel vendor, yo. No need to thank me.

Engineers. They can create bombs and guns for everyone so even the weakest of them all can be lethal. Also they can create ever bigger bombs:D

between 8 and 9 so I guess that makes 8,5 ?:D

MrJ.8142:

-> Your new map is great and big, but forces player who likes to solo to be party with other player or doomed to failed. Any suggestion?

This is not true. No one is forced to group up. Sometimes you may want to if you want to succeed with some stuff but that’s universal and true about base GW2 as well.

Soloed 3 maps with Engineer and Revenant. Including some HC champs.

Dahkeus.8243:

Probably, but honestly there’s almost no reason to ever be using the auto attack anyways. The non-AA skills deal way more damage and you’re better off using a kit like the grenade kit when those skills are on cooldown.

I don’t want to use the grenade kit. Used it for 3 years. Sick and tired of it. I don’t pick hammer to spam nades:P Besides AA already does dmg similar to AA on nades dmg per dmg, even more actually with right build but has some downsides that AA doesn’t have.

I vastly prefer how AA is done on revenant tbh. IT’s actually good with other skills being bit more situational but not useless.

Coolster.2536:

I think you’re experiencing the charge up of the third hit. The AA goes hit->hit->charge up->hit. Equilizing Blow is a channeled skill apparently. No idea as to why though

Exactly this.

wildfang.9670:

In pvp the problem is simple 1 rev can use jade winds and stun the entire other team for around 30 to 40 percent of the time, and insult to injury be recharging it’s energy while the other team is stunned.

dodge, block, invul, stun break, aegis, stability, interrupt

Where is the problem ? It has very very obvious casting animation that’s impossible to mistake for anything else in the game.

Thieves got new daggers that add 10s to cooldown. If they interrupt jade winds it has 15s CD instead of 5s.

Cayenne.5341:

for pvp, the reaper shroud 4 and 5 abilities have a huge cast time and animation which means it is easy to interrupt or dodge.

Then bait dodges with other skills. They aren’t an unlimited resource and get yourself stability.

Blaine Tog.8304:

I can agree with Gravedigger continuing to queue up as long as you hold down 2 and get refreshes. 5 should also clearly be ground-targeted. 3 also feels unrewarding to me; I know it’s really for the lifeforce and vulnerability, but the animation seems piddly and the damage is worse than an autoattack.

It’s a utility (in role, not on bar) skill. If every skill does more dmg than AA and has low cd then there’s no reason to use AA.

You use it when you need LF for survival, shroud w/e or to provide yourself with more crit due to trait (vuln=+2%) or to debuff boss so everyone else hits him harder.

Same is with Revenant. I don’t use Sword 3 vs more than 1 target because it’s a DPS loss then but it’s good vs single target, for might and for long evade it provides (defensively).

Not every skill has to do more dmg than AA.

FLiP.7680:

Killyox.3950:

Took me about 30 seconds but I’m a fast clicker :P

Then 30 minutes to get rid of the blinking rewards, lol

ugh…yeah :P

Your lack of understanding/knowing how something works does not make it a fact. I already explained it to you.

Sword’s 2nd AA attack PROJECTILE got MERGED into a SINGLE attack for SAME total dmg. It is NO LONGER a projectile and IT’S NOT an explosion.

(rift) explosion comes from 3rd attack in chain and IS NOT NEW. It has been on 3rd attack from the beginning. It hits around the time of AA’s 2nd attack because of 1s delay but is entirely seperate thing.. THESE are facts.

Dev already explained it. There was no nerf.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Brutal-Blade/first#post5587725

They have jobs and are working. 24/7 forum reading is not their only responsibility.

Your post is full of misinformation.

First!

There was no nerf

Second!

2x hits were combined into 1 hit doing same TOTAL dmg. Same total nr of vuln stacks and dmg. Simply no longer a projectile. MEaning it no longer bugs on obstacles – no dps loss then.

Third!

Explosions is from Sword 1-3, meaning 3rd attack in auto attack chain. 3rd skill in autoattack “marks” up to 3 enemies which after a second explode. Each explosion hits up to 3 enemies in aoe so single hit from 1-3 can get you 9 hits from rift explosion. AGAIN! it is NOT a part of 1-2 but 1-3. Has nothing to do with 2nd attack in chain.

Fourth!

Sword doesn’t do “pathetic” dmg. It hits like a truck. Anywhere between 3,5-6k dmg on AA.

Fifth!

See First!

When I healed on my rev my screen was green. Green everywhere! Green grass, green trees, green moss-covered rock, green healing numbers! Green everywhere:D Numbers everywhere!

I have noticed that behaviour as well. Defiance bar broken, taunt used and mob kept hitting/chasing other people

I feel for you ;p

Base warrior is the definition of simple so they could’ve gone a little more crazy with elite spec to offer something in-depth to those wanting. But no, they made it pretty much as simple as base warr.

posthumecaver.6473:

Zetsumei.4975:

Abimes.9726:

Hello ,

Open world events are quite easy solo. You just have to dodge the obvious animations / use invul / stab.

Champions are quite easy to solo , like any champion solo the key is understand the mech they use and adapt.

Group events (skill points)/Champion may take one or 2 – 3 try but are doable solo.

Legendary Champions are the only one i couln’t do solo wich is fine i think.

I’m a Pvp based player and it’s the first time i appreciate the pve content cause i finaly can use the game mechs (dodges , los , damage mitigations , blocks, reflect , burst).

I hope arenanet won’t do the mistake they did with the first gw2 and nerf mob AI into the ground making the game unchallenging.

Nb : To all those who have problems start with a mixed gear : Def/zerk and learn to dodge obvious tells , disengage when they cast huge AOEs, etc… . If you like to play with your feets and your neigbour cat controling your mouse , just don’t play Hot.

I can fight the champions toe to toe just fine, but what are you gonna do when the full cheese 4 minute timer runs out regardless of what gear you use? That’s what I’m annoyed about, if anything I could do with more difficulty.

Isn’t it this golem thing. yeah I fought with him with full berserker gear, I could bring him to %70s and 4 min timer resets. Then I waited to see will somebody else will come so we can do it together, 30 min waited nobody appeared then I go to the Halloween farming instead of wasting my time.

Instead of WAITING for someone to come how about… ASKING someone to come? /m is there for a reason. Ask someone from guild maybe or if no guild then join one ?

Aytheist.9476:

Solo players cannot advance in the new content, and any decent publisher would disclose such a fundamental change prior to taking your money.

False.

Why? Because I solo advanced with no problems. Soon to be in Dragon’s Stand. Except few mastery gated things I have almost 100% of verdant brink, auric bastion and ~80% of tangled depths since i went there yday.

Using Zerker gear. Rev shiro/jakis s/s + hamm

If it’s about something else then do specify in the OP next time. You’re very vague.

I also don’t think they intended for people to 100% finish maps during 1st week :P

Then again I soloed 100% Orr pre-nerf (nerf reduced mob count/density by 50%, added certain WPs that became uncontested, reduced CC abilities on mobs and dmg, added more WPs)

Depends.

Some scale with power for dmg, some don;t. Some scale with HP for healing and some don’t. Usually scaling is very low.

Good thing is it totally ignores armor and dmg reductions like protection

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vampiric_Presence

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vampiric_Rituals

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vampiric

logging daily, getting them from that and choosing as 30th day reward and from playing and combining writs of experience.

People prepared before HOT

Gaaroth.2567:

Azure.8670:

im just curious.

Is rev a buff bot? dps?

since HoT came out all ive been doing is HoT maps I havent touched fractals yet. After playing a good amount with all the elite specs, I simply cannot see where Reaper/Herald fit in a team. Mind you, those are 2/3 of my favorite elite specs so far, I just dont know what they bring to a team really. I was thinking Herald would replace warrior, but Berserker elite spec just does way too much damage.

• rev is very high in the rank of dps
• on paper it should be also a good healer but the community hasn’t fully figured ventari yet i guess (and it needs some tweaking imho),
• with glint and jalis we have great support/off-support

as you can see we can almost fill every role, maybe not the best in each, but quoting DnT’s Nike “Rev is one of those classes you’ll be always glad to have nearby”

Ventari has been figured fully before BWE3 :P. BWE3 only made it better.

He provides what I like in classes I play. Opportunity skills and opportunity costs.
I get to choose what I do with my resource pool.

Took me about 30 seconds but I’m a fast clicker :P

Velho.7123:

Take this for double the fun: Improved Aggression

Does it work with forced engagement?

Hits 1 and 2 are good but there is strange lag/delay with 3rd hit.

Would it be possible to have this fixed?

it is

zerker sword/sword + hammer shiro/jalis. No problems soloing many champs. Pretty much zero problems taking many veterans a once (deps on type of vet too).

Just gotta be good with your evades, dodges, stuns.

I don’t switch legends on CD like some do. I just do whatever is best at the moment. If there is a lot of aoe and quick hits I often sit more in shiro for riposting shadows since its an evade, withdraw, stun breaker and restores 1 dodge so it can go dodge, dodge, riposting shadows dodge dodge (1 regenned by this time), riposting shadows, dodge, sword 3 evade, hammer 3 evade, dodge dodge, riposting shadows and so on

All in all i enjoy shiro/jalis swords + hammer TREMENDOUSLY

PS
Sword 5 is awesome for getting the hell out even if you won’t break bar or pull enemy. It still allows you to avoid getting hit and you can phase traversal back to the enemy.

PPS
I <3 the fact that I actually get to use autoattack. For most classes it’s useless. Here it’s good + many good skills for different occasions.

I play around these. You get used to it by adapting and then pretty muc it goes unnoticed.

Apples to oranges.

With Revenant Shiro with Sword/Sword you can have that great agile fighting style due to so many dodges and evades. Evade on sword 3, block on sword 4, pull+get-the-hell out on sword 5, Riposting shadows gap-maker + evade + stun breaker + restores 1 dodge, and possible evade on hammer 3 if you pick it. That’s something I cannot have on guardian.

Rev is good healer in ventari and buffer in herald but at the cost of dmg then. Guardian can support AND do his thing. Revs have no group quickness while Guards do.

Both are awesome tbh. I prefer Revenant’s theme though.

Or even engie. Turrets don’t die instantly, same with gyros.

It’s an illusion. It takes 3 seconds worth of defiance bar but overtime. Shiro’s Jade Winds takes the same amount instantly. But yeah, it’s ok. Mind that different monsters have different amount of defiance bar. Nuhoch mordrem have a lot while some other monsters basically break instantly from every CC (those susceptible to CC).

mov.1246:

Hello,

Anet please could you rework the Scrapper’s Mask for Charr?
The way it is looks very weird, maybe more flat like the artwork?
On all other races this mask look awesome… just not on Charr…

Charr aren’t flat-faced

0 problems on zerker shiro/jalis revenant and soldier scrapper engineer. Soloing some champions too Few monster exceptions but it’s a matter of simple adjusting.

Maybe it’ll change in dragon’s stand but so far so good. Liking the challenge.