Why are the Dev’s scared to turn it back on? Because players who genuinely disconnect will be penalized and come here and moan? Quite frankly, I suggest most people would agree, if you are suffering recurring bad connection problems and choose to play pvp, you deserve to be penalized and have no right to complain.
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Oh, and dishonor should apply to hotjoin as well!
so because someone has a bad connection they shouldnt be allowed to play 1/3 of the game?
Yeah that’s the point actually. Why should he ruin 1/3 of other players game? I sometimes have realy high ping and bad dc, I prefer to not play at all and I’m looking to solve my issues once and for all but I cannot blame Anet for my personal problems
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- feline grace should work like before nerf but only on succesfull dodges
- inf return should be instant and breakstun
- lacernous strike should steal 2 boons
- flanking strike unblockable
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
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Come on! Let’s see how few people read on this forum so A-Net will know we are not as many as we think to deserve some love..
the idea is good but it won’t sort any effect cos it’s hard to do. We are not the full thief community in the game and we are already split between EU and NA and we have different playtimes.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
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I was speechless when I saw how amazing Druid was on stream, then I felt really bad for both eles and guardians. Hopefully DragonHunter gets alot better.
No one should feel sorry for eles
Anyway Druid is the best elite spec so far
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It sounds like it’s time to see how those of us who were dumb enough to preorder HoT (myself included) can get a refund. I’ll be asking for one, and when they tell me no, I’ll be examining my legal options with my CC company for a chargeback. I encourage everyone else to do the same.
Please note that I’m encouraging people to look for legal recourse in their chargeback.
Well I work for my bank and I have no problem in charging my money back if they don’t want to refund me. I do it every day for customers that need it.
Your account will get banned, just saying, you might care.
I couldn’t care less at this time. I spent a great amount of money in this game month after month, patch after patch, nerf after nerf, just because I believed in it and trusted the devs work. Then my hopes were disappointed and since money it’s the only thing that realy matters, I want mine back.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!
It sounds like it’s time to see how those of us who were dumb enough to preorder HoT (myself included) can get a refund. I’ll be asking for one, and when they tell me no, I’ll be examining my legal options with my CC company for a chargeback. I encourage everyone else to do the same.
Please note that I’m encouraging people to look for legal recourse in their chargeback.
Well I work for my bank and I have no problem in charging my money back if they don’t want to refund me. I do it every day for customers that need it.
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No it’s not a terroristic mission in A-Net headquarters
It’s just that I didn’t find any updated topic explaining why and when a dps thief should use sigil of blood over sigil of fire. The old topics stated that sigil of blood didn’t scale with power as like as sigil of fire, that’s why fire was a better choice. But looking at wiki descriptions nowadays it seems that blood has a power scaling too.
So what is better to use nowadays?
Or should I just go with air\generosity on my main dps set since this meta condition is totally destroying me?
Thief might not be as strong as last year
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No. Signet of malice’s passive should keep its current functionality, buff the healing ratio if you like but don’t make it a boring, flat heal over time that doesn’t scale or allow cool skill interactions. I use SoM and can honestly say that I would get less healing when I actually need it, and more useless overheal if it worked that way. Making SoM’s active a condition purge with the same pretty crappy active heal and better healing power ratios would be enough to give it a compelling active effect without breaking literally every pve and wvw build that uses it, and indirectly nerfing 2/3 of the daredevil dodges that actually make it a lot more attractive (Lotus dodge is 9 attacks, which is 9 heals from SoM even on a single target, bound is up to 5 heals direcly following a heal on evade proc)
You’re basically asking for a nerf to signet of malice.
The other two, maybe, though I doubt Anet would be willing to give us full-on swiftness speed as a passive signet, or add life steal to a signet whos primary role is damage and not sustain.
After reading your good explanation about signet of malice I must say that you made some interesting points.
My point tho was that actives on signets should be worth it to use over passives at the cost of losing the passive effect for the cd duration, that I would suggest to increase a bit if the active effects would be realy that good. At the moment it’s not always the case.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
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than they will be next year!
In my opinion signets passives should be weaker than their active effects by a large margin. At the moment the only 2 signets that are realy worth it to activate for their active effect are Signet of Agility and Infiltrator Signet.
1) Signet of Malice —> passive should work like Healing signet —> then increase the active heal and make thieves invulnerable and immune to conditions during the casting time and for 5 secs —> increase the cd to 40 seconds
2) Signet of Shadows —> increase passive speed to 33% —> Active should give 3 seconds of stealth and became a stun break —> 40 sec cd
3) Assassin Signet: Increase passive physical and condition damage by a little margin —> the active should give life steal and 100% condition transfer for the next 5 attacks
Thief might not be as strong as last year
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than they will be next year!
Revealed was done cos apparently for some people there wasn’t any counter play to stealth, even if indeed there are many.
Well for sure there is no counter play to reveal, so add something that can counter this debuff now. If everything needs a counter in this game, even reveal needs one.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
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OP do you remind me of my first days on GW2.
Good point but this was discussed a lot of time ago, it was clear from the beginning that deathblossom didn’t fit well with the rest of the set. Anet obviously didnt change that.
Btw a reminder from time to time is a good thing.
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Thieves asking to efficiently 1vs1 all other classes that must invest in defense, while they can focus entirely on the offensive because stealth is already a strong defensive mechanic and their attacks can be spammed thx to initiative
Hold on…..why the hell should I even play any other profession if a thief can simply 1vs1 anybody, run faster than anybody, decap better than anybody and stealth reset any fight?
Like…:" Oh KK dear devs I want the defensive options to 1vs1 that tanky guy..but I want to keep stealth so I can run away easy if I ever happen to lose and I want to still have stealth so I can always engage first and never be taken by surprise, I still want initiative so I can easily access what I need when I need and..huh..give me some nuclear bombs and planetary laser cannon access just for good measure, thx"
Btw people seems to forget about pistol whip era and lyssa rune god thief before that; at that time thief wasn’t that “rare” in PvP was it?…..yeah thx god the devs didn’t forget about that
Yeah give thieves the ability to 1vs1 tanky specs while keeping stealth and initiative…LIKE HELL
P.S let’s not conveniently forget about all the specs that thieves have always kept out of PvP, WvW..TY
do you know right that the word spam and thief don’t go well together?
Sure you can use 2 times in a row 1 skill at the cost of putting every other skill on cooldown. This is the thief! And iniziative based skills are no efficient as any other skill in the game for the reason they can be used twice in a short time.
The reason that Thief is choosen only for SB 5 explains well how bad is all the rest of the class. I would trade anytime that skill for a stronger presence in team fight and the ability to 1v1 anyone on the same balance level.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!
Thief is the worst class when played with pugs with no coordination. Cos it lacks team fight potential and even if you’re a good roamer, it’s hard to win if you’re only role is decapping free bases and help to +1 teammates that move around without any logic.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
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TL;DR enemy reveals are basically a “nope” button against thieves. We need counterplay.
stealth has no counterplay currently. thieves will need to learn their multiple teleports and evades to leave the area when “reveal” utility is used. simple as that.
Yeah Thief is the best class 1v1 cos OP stealth. That’s the only reason thief is choosen over other classes in pvp teams. Also 5 thieves team should be banned cos it is blatanty OP
EDIT: where are our multiple ports? The only ground target teleport I can think of is shadowstep on 50 sec cd and shortbow 5 usefull for running away draining all our iniziative. The others are a sign on 30 sec cd and a couple of weapon skill that require an enemy target anyway. So not realy the best optio for disengage.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
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Ok let’s start then:
I don’t care about balance or what could be OP since devs seem to not care as well..
1- revert back the original damage on C&D plus add blind effect to the skill
2- revert back the original damage on dagger skill 4
3- change dual dagger skill 3 to AoE physical damage instead of bleeding damage and add an immobilize effect to it
4- increase base backstab damage
5- remove casting time from sword skill 2, increase the immobilize effect, make it be a stun break again on shadow return
6- make sword/dagger skill 3 fully unblockable and steal 2 boons again
7- make higher boyh the damage and projectile speed of postol autoattacks
8- make ricochet native in dual pistol 3 (unload)
9- pistols and shortbow to 1200 range
10- add a blast effect to pistol nr 4
feel free to add more, I got to go to work now
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It is idiotic to think that thieves are allowed to use only one playstyle per patch. Also even from a marketing point of view, destroying one class customization for giving visibility to the new shiny spec, forcing everyone to buy and using it, is not a good move. A lot of people I know that are all veterans with 3 years of gw2 experience are not even going to buy the expansion till there will be good balance, matchmaking and a working soloQ. So forcing this people out of the game is not good for the pvp community that is still suffering in numbers
Thief might not be as strong as last year
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Or they could simply change offensive (applied by enemy) revealed to “spotted” debuff like in WoW. You are still in stealth and profit from all stealth buffs but enemies can see your half visible silhuette.
Poison for example doesn’t completely prevent eles or guards from using their heals, why the hell should revealed applied by enemies deny thieves most of their mechanics? Most stupid design idea i saw since first season Cata/MoP in wow.
Everything would be ok at this time. Everything to counter 1 skill that can deny all together one full trait line of ours, one of the few worth to play we are left with
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
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As the title says.. now that revealed is being given for free to half of the classes and since this is done only because people find annoying to fight vs disappearing things, at least let the thief to mantain all its stealth bonuses even when the revealed is up.
I mean it’s enough to be a sitting duck out of stealth and waste long utilities cooldowns to disengage once.
These revealed skills cd is laughable at the best in comparison
Thief might not be as strong as last year
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Honestly coming on the forum nowadays, QQing that a thief killed you it’s a shame for everyone but thieves themselves.
An ele or an engi dieing to thieves of any sort cannot be truly commiserated.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!
I’m sorry but stealth is kitten strong and there needs to be options to fight it. it’s so frustrating to fight a thief or mesmer and have a really close fight just for them to invis away and me sit around picking my nose waiting to get one shot. it lets you get uninterrupted stomps and rezzes and is kitten strong. now that there are SOME reveals to counter play so you don’t auto win or escape every fight you’re getting upset? play around them and try to bait the reveals out maybe? you make it sound like the reveals are permanent.
You sound like you have no experience playing thief. One shot? Autowin? Yeah, you don’t play thief. But please, prove me wrong and screenshot your pvp stat screen including games played on thief.
I should’ve been clearer, but after a close fight the thief or mesmer can stealth away from any unfavourable situation and either run and EASILY escape or reset the fight often coming back in a far healthier state and finishing off the mess they started. I dont bring sic em on my ranger. and even with carrion runes i find myself burst down in seconds. I’m not saying I’m good at pvp. I’m very new to it. but i have no answers or ability to deal with that, my pets wont follow, i wont chase you into a shadow refuge to drop a trap as ill just die in that. so instead i wait, try to heal up then eat a 4 venom backstab and basically die. now you can (and probably will) say L2P!
But the fact remains that stealth is VERY powerful and a very small amount of abilities (one per class) deal with it, and taking those skills often means gimping yourself against non stealth players. so maybe you should learn to play around these reveals just as much as i need to learn how best to deal with stealth itself?
-The only venom that competitive thieves run is basilisk.
-If a thief is in Shadow Refuge, its because they’re trying to recover, don’t let them sit there and do it. Place your aoes on the ring, use your wolf’s fear, etc..
-Is there a debuff that stops your class from clearing condis, using your burst, or regenerating health? No? Welcome to reveal for thief.
That one minute cooldown SR that you dropped to rez a teammate? Don’t worry, engi can pop a 900 unit aoe reveal on a 30 second cooldown.
-with sb and axe/torch my only aoes are player based and running into the shadow refuge is usually a bad idea,
-i have MINIMAL control over my pets, how do i get my wolf in there ? i cant tell him where to move and the animation is like 2 seconds long, so hard to avoid.
- your shadow refuge has a 60 sec cd? ok pistol 5 and dagger 2? dagger 5? the stealth heal? shortbow 5 has a blink with 0 cd easy for escaping, the blind wall and dagger 2? steal has a stealth im pretty sure (working off the top of my head). that is all without actually opening up the game and reading through traits and all utilities. see an engi aoe reveal? retreat and come back just after?
retreat and NEVER come back considered that AoE reveal is on a 20 sec cd, people seem to forget this particular. Thieves already avoided engies before cos the match up was realy unbalanced, then A-Net decided engies needed even more stuffs to deal with thieves.
If devs realy want the thief to be only good at mobility and at creating +1 situations, remove stealth at all from the class and give us even more speed and shadowsteps. At least we can avoid better every team fight or 1v1 and enjoy capping only empty nodes.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!
I’m sorry but stealth is kitten strong and there needs to be options to fight it. it’s so frustrating to fight a thief or mesmer and have a really close fight just for them to invis away and me sit around picking my nose waiting to get one shot. it lets you get uninterrupted stomps and rezzes and is kitten strong. now that there are SOME reveals to counter play so you don’t auto win or escape every fight you’re getting upset? play around them and try to bait the reveals out maybe? you make it sound like the reveals are permanent.
You sound like you have no experience playing thief. One shot? Autowin? Yeah, you don’t play thief. But please, prove me wrong and screenshot your pvp stat screen including games played on thief.
I should’ve been clearer, but after a close fight the thief or mesmer can stealth away from any unfavourable situation and either run and EASILY escape or reset the fight often coming back in a far healthier state and finishing off the mess they started. I dont bring sic em on my ranger. and even with carrion runes i find myself burst down in seconds. I’m not saying I’m good at pvp. I’m very new to it. but i have no answers or ability to deal with that, my pets wont follow, i wont chase you into a shadow refuge to drop a trap as ill just die in that. so instead i wait, try to heal up then eat a 4 venom backstab and basically die. now you can (and probably will) say L2P!
But the fact remains that stealth is VERY powerful and a very small amount of abilities (one per class) deal with it, and taking those skills often means gimping yourself against non stealth players. so maybe you should learn to play around these reveals just as much as i need to learn how best to deal with stealth itself?
I’m not going to say L2P, but the fact is that you’re relatively new to the game. It’s not your fault, everyone at the beginning struggled vs stealth, cos it’s the less intuitive mechanic in the game, but in few weeks of practice you will understand how to deal with it. Of course if you spend your time playing the game instead of making incorrect statements on this forum.
You will understand where now you’re wrong, trust me.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!
(probably also reason why thief is being nerfed to the ground so thief players reroll revenant).
or they just quit!
I could roll a revenant if I could see some sort of balance in this game. What if in a future expansion they will nerf to the ground Revenant for selling the new fotm class? Devs are losing credibility.
Nice idea OP but it won’t happen
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Realy don’t give us anything new. Just fix what we have already. Who needs a new specialization that is just an Acrobatic 2.0
Do you think that the thief community is so stupid? First nerf Acrobatic so that Daredevil seems good, right?
There are so many other things that need to be fixed about thief: venoms, traps, d/d, p/p, acrobatics, critical strikes, valuable condition removal, some burning application, and so on. I am sure thieves would be more appealed to have existing weapons, skills and traits fixed than having a new specialization.
I’m going to ask a refund for HoT and won’t buy it again till something change for good.
I’m sure you have a lot of work to do.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
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I have no problem against stealth, even with no reveal skills. I have problems against anything else tho. Because as a thief I lack counters to burning or heavy condition spam, I have no counter to invulnerability and blocks. Stealth is easibly counterable.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
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Lets not forget chill should affect initiative regen!
See! These are the ideas that this thread needs.
It also got me thinking, what if there was a way to lock necros out of deathshroud? I think this is really interesting counter play!
You already can lock a necromancer out of death shroud. Its called Moa.
Good point! Give Moa to 2 more classes to make it even.
Give Moa to 3 more classes to be fair. Make it 900 range AoE with 20 sec cd. Moa would last 4/6 seconds. I think I’ve heard already of a similar skill out there. HoT is gonna be too cool and nice!
EDIT: Reveal skills will not only hit badly the only current decent, far from being OP, and only viable spec thief have in the current meta that is D/P, but will destroy also the sub par D/D thief, that has never saw the light since 3 years ago in any pvp team or environment but some sporadic wvw roamer nostalgic that still remember the old good days when revealed was non existent. Was at that point that the thief hate started on the forum.
Lets give other classes so easy access to stealth and such powerful traitline around it with lack of counterplay without reveal
Here are you talking about mesmer right? Cos in the current state it’s thief that lacks counter play against others, not viceversa.
Then show me how to perma blind an engie or shadowstep away (50 sec cd) than come back and being revealed again with an AoE 900 range spell (20 sec cd).
Not talking about double dagger thieves that will be hit even harder but they are still non existent in pvp so who cares right?
Sure we got our new awsome specialization now that HoT comes, with an awsome new weapon that has an awsome knockback from stealth with 0 dmg, even if it doesn’t have any field for combo and even any stealth skill.
Well thieves probably will play Daredevil (the new acrobatic 2.0) anyway with evasion and 0 stealth till the next balance patch.
Why give thief more than one viable spec per patch right?
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!
Lets not forget chill should affect initiative regen!
See! These are the ideas that this thread needs.
It also got me thinking, what if there was a way to lock necros out of deathshroud? I think this is really interesting counter play!
You already can lock a necromancer out of death shroud. Its called Moa.
Good point! Give Moa to 2 more classes to make it even.
Give Moa to 3 more classes to be fair. Make it 900 range AoE with 20 sec cd. Moa would last 4/6 seconds. I think I’ve heard already of a similar skill out there. HoT is gonna be too cool and nice!
EDIT: Reveal skills will not only hit badly the only current decent, far from being OP, and only viable spec thief have in the current meta that is D/P, but will destroy also the sub par D/D thief, that has never saw the light since 3 years ago in any pvp team or environment but some sporadic wvw roamer nostalgic that still remember the old good days when revealed was non existent. Was at that point that the thief hate started on the forum.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
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you forgot that our whole trait line is based on stealth…. i wish i had a 900 range, aoe spell on 20 sec CD that prevented mesmers from using shatter and creating clones for 6 sec
Yeah, while you lose your stealth for 6 seconds you still have blind spam, shadowsteps, steal interrupt through stability. Im sorry your glorious stealth got counter but you have still a lot defences and after 6 seconds you can disappear again +15 seconds and full reset the fight.
So what do you say is that out of stealth we can only blind or shadowstep away for surviving. Thanks for proving that we need stealth for setting up our attacks or it’s better to run away. The new DD specialization might come in hand but having again only 1 viable build to be on par with other classes when others have 2/3 viable choices is not what I call balance
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I have been calm for 3 years and I have given lots of money for this game and my class. Every time waiting for the next balance update. Now I think I have the right to be disappointed since in 3 years I never saw a good balance compromise with the thief
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dont be so stealth meta… seriously theory craft with traits and utility and you’ll be surprised
It’s not like I only want to play with stealth. I even always preferred S/D or S/P over D/P but we still have few options and why for the hell we should be forced to use pnly 1 build cos of continuod nerfs?
Thief might not be as strong as last year
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To all thieves that still have to buy HoT. DON’T BUY IT
To the others, let’s ask all for a refund.
Let’s see if Devs understand our frustation.
I feel like I have blindly paid for something only for discovering later I had just paid for my Death.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
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We should rise all together and go play anything else since this kitten ends once and for all.
I hope Anet will fail hard with hot and this game will die sooner after.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
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do you know that if Thieves go full dps they have no sustain as well? Oh well they have no sustain at all nowadays
Ironically that is what i’m going to play when they nerf ele. And no sustain is relative considering on my thief I can just go invis, run away, heal, come back, invis, reposition, burst, invis, run away, heal, come back, invis… you get the idea. I’m sure you’ve played thief before.
Yeah I’ve played thief “sometimes” in pvp. Are you sure you did the same against something that is not a Golem dummy?
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the solution is not making the same goal, as gaining big amount of golds or the same legendaries, between different gameplay types.
It would be cool if pvpers and also WvWers could get something unique for them that pve players cannot get only by farming bosses and dungeons.
PvP and WvW exclusive legendaries could be a start. Winning Gems could also appeal many players.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
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The weird thing behind this is that one could rightly say Illusions are the mesmers mechanic, and the thief using stealth completely hard counters them. Would you compromise by making it so that all ai wasn’t fooled by stealth? One could parry your language, playing Devils advocate, and say that stealth itself counters the mesmers and ranger class mechanics.
What? Illusions and pets that keep track of the thief in stealth and start moving and attacking the thief 0.000001 seconds after he leaves stealth, even if the thief is moved far away or hiding behing a wall? Illutions and Pets have the best reaction time I have ever seen
Also I could argue that channeling skills like Rapid Fire, counter stealth even better than skills that apply reveal
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
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Revealed training isn’t counterplay. Counterplay is when someone reveals me and I can do something or something happens to react to it so I’m not totally screwed, or can even possibly turn the tables. 200 power with no access to backstab or my main survival source isn’t very valuable. It doesn’t counteract the reveal. It just gives a mild buff.
Example of active counterplay: if an SA trait made steal remove reveal, I could save steal instead of opening with it, then use it to counter the effects of lock on/sic ’em or what have you.
Example of passive counter: Mirror of Anguish. Wanna try and lock down that Mesmer? Joke’s on you. In this case it’s not active counterplay since it’s automatic, but it is certainly a counter.
I already mentioned elsewhere a couple of great ideas:
1.A Shadow Arts grandmaster trait that totally ignores reveal skills.
2.Many stacks of burning and bleeding upon being revealed.
For me a trait that completely remove reveal would be too OP cos it leads again to the first state of stealth this game had at the beginning.
Also giving this trait to 1 specific trait line is like making that traitline almost mandatory for thieves that rely on stealth and I don’t like mandatory things cos build differenzation should be the goal. We already have trickery that is too mandatory.
My personal idea is to remake all adept traits in all trait line but DD in a way similar to this:
- Deadly Art: When a foe applies reveal on you, he gets immobilized for 2s and up to 3 boons converted to conditions
- Critical Strike: When a foe applies reveal on you, he gets critted for 3k in an AoE circle that damage also foes around him, the thief is healed for half the total damage
- Shadow Art: Stealth last 1s longer and reveal last 50% less
- Acrobatics: When a foe applies reveal on you, refill your endurance and convert your conditions to Boons
- Trickery: When a foe applies reveal on you, break stun and shadowstep away, also gain 3 initiativegain
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!
Lets face it. Anet will never implement something so long winded and time consuming as a mechanic to deny other classes of their core abilities/mechanics. Not to say they’re lazy, but they’d probably all gather in their little meeting room and the dude who’d have to program it would raise his hand and say “kitten that”.
We should be asking for a counter to the real problem. We need to be able to remove or negate Reveal. Whether it be from a Grandmaster Trait in SA or tack on a Reveal Remove to an existing ability which could use some love, cough Signet of Shadows cough.
I could go on all day about how I think it should be done, and my opinion will differ to yours and the devs over at Anet.
At the end of the day we need Reveal Removal on a similar cooldown to abilities that Reveal to keep the balance in check.
Anet pls.
Something able to completely remove the reveal mechanic would be too OP for me and even if I like it, I guess that never it will be implemented. Also something like that would be too mandatory for a thief to have and will result in even less thief differentiation, something like the trickery line is nowadays.
I don’t mind reveal, if we can get some other powerfull options that don’t require stealth at all, and I don’t mean only one other spec that uses evasion as the main source of defense. I mean at least 3 or 4 equally strong and different options (I know it’s pure utopy) for the thief, so that other classes are not forced in taking an anti stealth tool for countering our only decent spec at the moment.
Of course I hate these anti stealth things, since their only purpose is to completely negate what the thief class can do at the moment. And it’s wrong.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!
Even if I like these suggestions I think it’s worth it for us to suggest something easier to implement. I don’t want to be mean but looking at what A-Net has doing against thieves I don’t think they will implement something like totally negate death shroud on steal. We should ask for something that makes thieves valuable to have in a team, and no, mobility is not anymore a specific thief thing. I would like to have more spec option for pvp that don’t rewuire only d/p and stealth for survive. At the moment we have only one spec that can barely compete and for this reason we are easily counterable nowadays.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!
IGN: Slèvïn
Thief Type: PvP and casual WvW
Server: Seafarer Rest
Experience with thief:
I’m playing since the game release and I have over 2500 hour on the Thief class. Sometime I feel bored and quit the game, but I always come back for a new try. I’m Guildless and Teamless right now for a personal choice but I would like to exchange some knowledge and tricks about this class with other veterans.
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!
so A-Net will know we are not as many as we think to deserve some love..