Guild Wars 2

condi mesmers will be the master race in pvp.
guards have a solid buff yeah, but nothing like what mesmer are getting.

the PU nerf still won’t stop PU mesmers from being a hell of a lot stronger than they are now.

“With the guardian, our intent for this balance update is to improve some of the less popular utility skills and open up some build diversity.” -Anet.

so they made the only elite anyone ever uses a meditation so it fits perfectly into the only build anyone ever uses.
TROLOLOL.

yeah, pretty shabby, especially since we’ve seen classes like mesmer getting massive buffs.
power creep of most other classes will probably put necro pretty low on the foodchain after this patch.

there is so much that should have been done.

perhaps they’ll give you something in 6 months time.
there were some good changes, notably the deathshroud downing/rezzing.
but the nerf to lich was incredibly harsh,
cutting the duration by a third and cutting the damage output considerably.

atleast this should stop thieves and eles complaining about getting the biggest kick in the teeth

fire elementals can be chilled/frozen.
ice elementals dont die instantly to fire damage.

(though yeah this should be in the “general discussion” section)

easiest fix that wont screw over the PVEers would probably be to just balance the celestial amulet, (lower the stat points to similar levels as other stats, currently it gives you far more stat points than any other amulet)

considering they’re improving guardian spirit weapons (we’ll hear the details tonight)
and not touching spirit weapons or turrets (we’ll have to wait to hear about minions tonight)
i’m guessing they like AI builds!

what kind of armour? 2 words
RED SONJA

i’d like if they made new halloween content
i know the Raiment of the Lich GW1 set was recently datamined, perhaps thats going to be introduced for halloween.

what i really don’t want them to do is simply re-run the first year!
it would be a little bit nasty after many of us have spent our entire gold supply and thousand of hours farming to save up for Greatsaw,
adding it back would be a kick in the teeth for our dedication.

currently it is valued at a similar price to legendary weapons,
and in my mind, that is where it belongs!

MightyMicah.7451:

Oh, please. Just listen to yourself dude. +1 for useless drama.

while i agree that he did put it in a bit of a dramatical state, he does have some very good points!
things we ask for thousands of times over (like skyhammer to be removed from queues, and changes to the exploitable Spvp spectator/team select) just get ignored.

and we’re still only getting 2 patches a year, which frankly is scary for such a young mmo.

i can’t think of a time when i’ve had 2 exact same weapons/armour in my inventory ever lol.
except the exception of low level alts having vendor bought weapons for pvp, but that very rarely is the case.

they originally planned on “regularly adding new skills and traits to the game” during last year, but for whatever reason they didn’t.
imho we really do need new skills and traits to be a regular thing.
(every few months or so)

i’m pretty much saying what most people above are saying.
its crazy that everyone is getting their knickers in a bunch over the scepter change,
when this Elasticity change is IMHO the biggest buff to a class since Healing Signet!

staff clones are stronger than phantasms when it comes to condition builds, and now they’re getting twice as strong? let the PU madness ensue!

when i’m bored in pvp i sometimes use this build in hotjoin XD
it is the epitome of 3 3 3 3 3 3 and it has no stealth lol (so yeah, only hotjoin, no tournaments with this!)
still, it hits like a truck and survives fairly well with Signet of Malice proccing so much, especially with dagger storm!
it actually takes down things like hambows surprisingly well through Blackpowder and stolen whirl or blackpowder daggerstorm

I’D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!

and in these servers don’t allow team select and spectator,
lets bring the fun back!

we used to have both 8v8 and 5v5 servers,
but it was the 8v8 servers that we all flocked to because they were the most fun.
bring them back but keep 5v5s too, happy days.

i do miss the freedom of GW1 builds
go go bunny thumpers!

i’ve been saying it for along time but they should remove the condi cap but make condis mitigatable, this would be a win for everyone.
(obviously the healing reduction from poison would need to be capped at what it is now, but the damage could still stack)

the PVEers could finally use condi specs for world bosses/dungeons without overwriting eachothers damage.
and in PVP we will be able to spec like a bunker without condis ignoring our mountain of toughness and armour.

i thought it was hilarious when i saw the very engi looking backpack yet 2 years in we still have the hobo-sacks on our engis!

for RP maybe human for Reaper of Grenth
for looks, maybe a dark skinned sylvari? they can look pretty amazing !
for Pve dungeons Norn’s are the best race regardless of class for their Bear Form
:)

i hardly ever use arcane/water
in my mind ele is the “mage” class of gw2,
squishy but capable of throwing down ridiculously high aoe damage from afar.
and that is how i’ve played it since release!

a fight goes 2 ways:
either i’m focused by the enemy group and die in several hits,
or every enemy on the point will be dead in seconds!
it’s the way ele should be imho, the epitome of a glass cannon!

(though occasionally i’ll play Stoneheart Conjure ele to go to to toe with warriors)

tbh it was pretty OP, i’ve auto attacked warriors to death without taking a hit by using BP…
though the tricky thing about thieves having no cooldowns is that things are usually either OP or UP, its very tricky to get the middle ground.
i think this nerf might have been too much.
we’ll have to wait and see how it pans out.

8v8 was the bomb, removing it really sucks,
yes it sometimes got zergy, but the fights were always close (usually always atleast 400v500)
they also added in spectator and team select, another huge blunder that ruins ever single match!

as for the transmutations, its not that bad, i agree that the old reward system did seem more rewarding, but hey, for whatever reason they decide to make these changes there is nothing we can do to change their mind, so best to just deal with it.

i know i’d kill for it on my keyfarmer XD
not just for the stat boost, but the swiftness would go lovely with Corpse Toss!

tera armour, coming next summer!

BobbyT.7192:

In4b " expansion come with new class, races, skills, and watermelons rawr angry internet face!!!!!!"

well its true XD
just look at wow, the first expansion gave 2 new races, a new class, new skills and traits, higher level cap and an entire continent full of new weapon/armours and quests, instances and raids.

that being said, the expansion came 3 years after WoWs release, so we’re only 2/3rds there, but do you think we have 2/3rds of an expansion?

i’m not complaining, just comparing

imho the next map they add should be nice and simple,
no trebuchets, skyhammers, catapults, cannons etc.
no NPCS.

just 3 capture points in a triangle.
secondary factor could be a pit in between all of the capture points (like Gurubashi Arena from WoW), where players can fight eachother, each kill within the pit grants bonus score to your team, (there would be a forcefield over the top to eliminate lame people standing outside and nuking people within)

where have you been?
in a condi build staff clones do more damage than any of the phantasms,
using a phantasm and removing one of your clones will actually lower your dps!

i also think that staff clones with the buffed Elasticity are gonna be soooo much more devastating than scepter clones with torment.

it is a colossal buff, and should not be underestimated,
getting the 5 stacks of torment from Scepter #2 MELTS your enemy.
and now you’ll be able to keep that up constantly with spikes of 10+ torment stacks.
the damage is gonna be ridiculous!

how could the buff necro def?

remove aweful ICDs from signet of vampirism,
lower life force lost when hit in death shroud,
give things like spectral armour extra effects,
increase the healing of life steals,

in short there are plenty of ways they can do it

skullmount.1758:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Liewec.2896:

NO NO NO!

prestige.

For being here earlier than people who might outright be more dedicated than you at this point?

please.

The only prestige here is on the battlefield.

Those skins were for being here on halloween. not for kickstarting the game or something.

And its not even for only being here on Halloween. Some/many of us were here too and still didn’t get one. The only “prestige” was having one of the lucky RNG accounts.

i didn’t get one on halloween either, but because i wanted one i saved up the thousands of gold necessary to buy it, because thats what i think it’s worth…
i have NO ascended armour or weapons, i have no legendaries, i spent everything i had on getting the greatsaw skin.

basically all this thread boils down to is people saying “i want that, but i don’t want to work for it.”

if you really want it, you’ll work for it as i did, i mindlessly farmed for months, and at the end i got my Greatsaw, that is the sign of REALLY wanting something.

none of this “let me buy everything i want for a couple of ticket scraps.”…
honestly i swear some people want the game to play it’s self!

TL;DR
if you really love the skin, you’ll farm your butt off like the rest of us to afford it,
you won’t try to get it nerfed into a commonplace worthless item.

aye its cheap, but so are all of the other map mechanics!

using the trebs in khylo is cheap,
using the cannon on capricorn was cheap,
using skyhammer is cheap (for the people who play that map)
kill stealing svanir/chief is cheap.

NO NO NO!

why does everyone so desperately want to turn everything prestigious into commonplace worthless items?

precursor crafting, retired skins being purchasable, it all reduces any form of prestige.

as one of the people who worked tirelessly to farm enough gold to buy one of the few Greatsaw skins (1800g when i bought it afew months back) i would find it absolutely disgusting if they let people buy them with tickets.

if you really want one of these skins, then you’d work up the 3000g to buy it.
i know i would if i hadn’t already!
removing all of their value is not the answer just because people want things without having to work for them.

lich will probably get a big slap in the face, probably wont grant bonus power
(like the tornado nerf)
signets will probably get their cooldowns altered
corrosive poison cloud might get a slight buff.
dagger is getting minor cleave (this one is confirmed, it’ll hit 2 targets)
axe and dagger skills might get changed, expect axe 2 to have its cast time cut.
i’d also fully expect parasitic contagion to get buffed from 5% to 8%

what i’d hope for:
“Signet of Vampirism” getting some/all of its horrible ICDs removed,
the 2 staff traits in the death tree get merged.
Unholy Martyr buffed to pull more condis from allies

well that sucks!
the Greatsaw is the only thing i own that feels like it has some form of prestigious value since it is no longer obtainable.

imho getting one-time-only rewards is the best part of an MMO,
sure there will be some you miss (like i never got the wings of the sunless)
but bringing rewards back just diminishes their value.

i really hope this is’nt true! but i figure it will be, because people will buy keys.

zaxon.6819:

the crazy thing is… warriors complaining about mesmers.. mind blowing. learn to play

i dunno, the easiest time i have fighting hambows is as my PU mesmer, the warriors do melt pretty kitten easy!

side note, i’m surprised that noone is bringing up the colossal buff to Illusionary Elasticity this is the biggest buff since warrior healing signet’s buff imho.
the staff clones are the strongest of all clones and now they will deal double the damage,
it is going to melt faces!

it is sad that they nerfed both FGS and tornado, the elemental was are already sub-par.
earth ele has its tanky moments in dungeons, but the rest are pretty “meh”

the only real use for ele elites was “MeteorNado” or Fiery Rush.

however, since eles can now pretty much PERMABLIND i think it makes up for it

if people could craft precursors then “legendaries” would be even less legendary.

@baels, i like your ideal at making it more of an accomplishment than “i farmed blix for a month!”

birthday booster, mini (specific), lv 60 scroll.

what i’d love: random endless combat useable tonics like the 6th year present from GW1
i miss playing as a dragon!

“New Skill and Traits
We’ll begin regularly adding new skills and traits to the game for each profession to expand your characters and builds!”
i must have missed that!
we got 1 lot of new GM traits (mostly sub-par) and one useless healing skill per class

easiest? warrior.
best? ele/thief/engi when played like a god. (imho)
highly wanted? bunker guard.

Elasticity effecting staff clones is the biggest buff since warrior healing signet.
people really underestimate this change.
these clones are already undoubtedly the strongest of all clones,
and now they will hit twice.
(ignore what wiki says about clones attacks not bouncing, they do.)

let the age of Diamond Skin begin!

on a serious note though, this is gonna be mega strong, elasticity on staff clones is a stupendously large buff to the strongest clone.

anyone trying to claim that PU wont be able to cap points is seriously underestimating the power that this change will bring!

when these no-life idiots get caught, i hope they drop the soap…

it does indeed suck that it just carries on rezzing.
once the pet gets interrupted it should stop rezzing until the cooldown is done.

in pve, a new exploit allows for players to earn gold faster than they should,
in pvp, players have been exploiting spectator and team select for 5 months.

blix has already had a dev response stating that a fix is coming next patch.
spvp has’nt had any such luxury.

so anet…
do we really need to get your precious economy involved before you’ll fix exploits?
is there honestly no change coming to spectator/team select next patch?!

edit: for anyone who came here just to point out that you don’t play hot join, or say that “its just hotjoin” just don’t bother, i’ve rebutted that over and over.
and the answer? hotjoin should be FUN, its not about winning or losing but the enjoyment of the match, as it used to be back in the haydays of 8v8 before team select and spectator.
there is nothing fun about exploiters rigging every match into a one sided spawn camp.

it should definitely effect the clones in some way, even if they only have a 50% chance for an additional bounce, or bounce on crit or some other limitation, it should effect them in some way!

i use pack for everything on mesmer!

as a long time axe/axe user i’d really reccomend that you pick up Reckless Dodge , little known fact, but you can dodge roll while channelling your axe#5, its a lethal combo of high damage while avoiding damage. (atleast in my glassy build, the whirl does over 10k damage every time and the 2 dodge rolls will deal atleast 5k+ (usually around 7k))

i play warrior a fair amount and am too proud to ever play as a hambow clone/clown.
well i’m not sure if “proud” is the right word, but i’d just feel dirty using such a cheap build.
its like on that rare occasion that you give MM necro a try and while the minions are killing the enemies you think “i must look like such a noob right now.”

i play A/A or GS zerker specs, the way warrior should be!
also a full on norn bunker, the way warrior should be!
none of this cheap hambow nonsense!

also people having trouble with hambow should make a PU mesmer,
i’ve never had such an easy time melting hambows as on my PU!