Guild Wars 2

i play a fire glass cannon staff build in hotjoin, its a blast!
the damage is insanely high and its all AoE.
its a very squishy build though so probably not suitable for Tpvp

generally thieves will just spam 2 2 2 2 2 until the end of time
once we learn this it becomes laughably easy to deal with these thieves (immobilize) lolz.
sure a decent thief can be a good roamer/spiker/stomper,
but for every decent thief there will be 222 more thieves that ju2t 2pam 2!

bhagwad.4281:

Thanks! Isn’t this very vulnerable to AoE? You don’t seem to have taken the lower recharge for minion skills so it’s a bit long between summons no?

the cooldowns aren’t very long anyways i prefer the 50% more minion HP over a 5-6 secs off their CDs

i’ve never had a mega problem with aoes, but it is a bit if a hinderance, and yeah moa morph sucks, and getting your toes wet will also despawn your minions.

there are plenty of lame things about using minions but i feel they’re still one of the best ways to get easy points in a tanky aoe build

i have a surprisingly good MM staff build for farming points, its tanky, and hits everything in a large radius (also granting regen/removing conditions from allies)
stand back and spam 1-5, i constantly get 300+ points with this build due to the mass of aoe and minions helping to tag everything.
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=;0_-34;0sHkD0z3VI-K0;9;4J-TJ-48;241916;2a;5jwmAjwmA9ca (i never switch weapon)
(you could also switch the minion bonus health for the minion boon removal trait if you want to be a bane to bunkers!)
you need to copy and paste the link into your browser since the GW2 site doesn’t like links from the mists XD

they’ve already said they want to change the reward system,
i think it’s likely we’ll have a form of shop system where we buy skins for glory

i’d love them to buff it, the passive is nowhere near what it should be and the active is the worst heal in the game.

if they want to put their money where their mouth is and give us the “stable bodied warrior” they spoke of, they need to buff it!

Olba.5376:

You want a passive 6% damage boost per boon?

Great, that’ll make all Guardians popping Save Yourselves take 111% extra damage!

FYI 6×7=42

i agree with this change, the 3% burst increase is useless and you’d have to be crazy to take the current 3% per boon trait over 20% faster burst CD + less adrenaline cost trait

you’re behind, they can already do all of that, they just can’t do much of anything else!

edit: nvm i thought you said warriors.

agreed, after months of “work” you’d expect more than a couple of tweaks and some tooltip fixes, honestly what do you guys do? office mini golf?

as everyone else has been saying, we don’t want month after month of babysteps.

i will add however, that this patch has been babysteps in the right direction,
which is good!

i’m just going for Burst Mastery conditions spamming longbow and sword bursts, melting them down, seems to work better than a couple of percents of dmg

i’ve always had a blast with this longbow/sword+board build
(copy and paste link in to browser)
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-so-FwBFSKkO0f4-L-60;9;5T-9T;128A;13;056Aa-k7a;1F-03F-037Zs
thanks to the signet buff and Burst Mastery trait its been slightly buffed its a great little build, great escape from sword 2, decent survival from shield block and the damage…the damage is AWESOME.

20% chance to X on crit.
replace X with:
Remove a condition,
Remove a boon from target,
Grant might,
grant fury,
increase attack speed by 5%,
snare the target.

theres plenty of interesting options

ele is one of the reasons i quit afew months back (still check the forums every once and awhile to see if anything has changed)
you’re there enjoying a relatively balanced game and then some ele comes along rolling his face on his keyboard, large heals, large damage, every boon, if you manage to get him low he’ll zip away and 2 seconds later he’s at full hp.
it’s these moments where you say “f%%k this s%%t” and go play a game where the devs care about pvp.

currently there is no room for banners on the pvp bar,
warriors are renowned for our lack of condition cleansing so 2 of your slots will be filled there with shake it off and signet and your last slot will likely be balanced stance/bull’s charge, endure pain or something else.
kudos for trying banners and i’m glad you’re having fun

death breakdown is bugged,
you’ll also see things like 30k condition damage when you’ve hardly been conditioned at all.
the damage is the same as always, its just the death breakdown is bugged.

R E F L H E X.8413:

Liewec.2896:

we’ll need some serious work to make warrior viable again now our only true build was violated.

Or was it the only build that was really put into meta and played thoroughly through and built well that everyone just assumed to be good thus making everything else somewhat go unplayed and underdeveloped as far as builds goes?

Maybe now people will not spec gsword as much and move to some other weapons and figure out other good combos that would not have been found otherwise since they would have stuck with the gsword the entire time. Godsword or greatsword? We’ll just call them godswords. I for one used mace/shield and hammer with all control utilities in tpvp with no problems, worked extremely well actually because you got enough control to lock someone till they die pretty much I think it was 7 control skills on those sets… maybe more maybe like 9.

“now your spec has been destroyed people can try new things!”
thats a bad argument, people used it because everything else we can do other classes can pull off better, 100b>frenzy was one of the best bursts in the game, one of the few counters to a d/d ele.
i mainly play warrior, and i only play pvp, i’ve tried every build you can think of, sword/longbow is decent, but if you want conditions there are far better classes,
hammer CC is decent, but if you want CC there are much better classes.
AKA if you play warrior you’re already handicapped / playing a warrior is a bad decision.

Brutalistik.6473:

This is the carrot on the stick treatment which been going on for months

• Whats feedback?

All I can say at this point

• Action speaks louder than words

i don’t know, just a glance at the forums after this patch lets the devs know we’re speaking pretty dam loud about the removal of the warrior.
yes i said removal, there is now nothing our class can do that another class could’nt do alot better, taking a warrior will kitten your team.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Nothing changed. Just the rare warriors dissapeared completely by now.

the what? oooh you mean the Bannerman class? yeah that class got removed from the game, it was way too OP, the eles did’nt like it.

why is everyone still calling it hundred blades?
dontcha know its been renamed Fifty Blades?

“Forceful Greatsword” (Gain might on critical hit with a greatsword)
needs to change to a universal crit=might with any weapon to encourage variety.

“Rampage” needs a complete overhaul to be on par with things like “Lich Form”
currently you’ll deal less damage than great sword auto attacks and it will block your healing skill and utility bar.

“Staggering Blow” (hammer skill)
needs t be usable while moving.

healing skills
need to be higher healing to match other classes, currently we have longer cooldowns and less healing

could-be-interesting idea,
banners should count as offhand weapons and banner skill 2 and 3 (since the other 3 are filler skills anyway) should replace skill 4 and 5 (offhand slots) on your skill bar.
this would allow for interesting sword/axe/mace builds with a banner.

“this is the spot that they intended warriors to be in, and it’s not going to stay this way.”
wrong, we’ve had 7 months to see changes with any class and very little has changed.

“Quickness also pigeonholes warriors into making their entire build about getting a frenzied 100blades off.”
thats because it was the only competitive warrior build.
sure i mess around with hammer builds and sword/longbow builds, but for serious pvp 100b frenzy was our only competitive build to match other classes.

“Lastly, stop spamming the forums please.”
because nothing gets changes made like silence?
if something is terribly wrong we need to talk about it,
i’m sure as much as Anet dislike our whining they still want to know how their customers feel about their experience, rather than just silently losing customers with no clue why.

yes,
it needed a nerf, thats clear.
but they did’nt compensate and have ruined warrior.

quickness needed a nerf, banners needed a buff (for pve)
but both don’t mesh together to leave us at the same place,
we’ll need some serious work to make warrior viable again now our only true build was violated.

lol noones figured out your parody yet XD
i thought it was funny

ofcourse the pvp patch is in april,
and then when people are disappointed in april “the pvp patch will be in may and it will be awesome!”
the line stopped being funny around december (“the pvp patch!”)

daydream.2938:

Liewec.2896:

i say YES to the haste nerf, but they NEED to add something for warrior to compensate.
we’re already the worst profession, HB frenzy was our one trick pony, now we’re just the class that can’t do anything better than others.
there is no reason to play my favourite class now, whatever you want to achieve another class will do better.

Frenzy should only be 25% extra damage now, not 50%

that’s hardly compensation.
look at the other classes with quickness: mesmer, ranger, thief, all have builds that they can fall back on, frenzy>100b was warriors only serious competitive build, now your enemy will just step backwards while you’re slooooooowly swinging your sword.
yes the quickness nerf had to happen, but they did’nt do a thing to make warriors viable now.
as i said before, now there truely is nothing that warriors are best at, whatever your goal there is a better class than warrior.

hello wishlist, meet the cold reality of Anet’s hilarious patching!

i say YES to the haste nerf, but they NEED to add something for warrior to compensate.
we’re already the worst profession, HB frenzy was our one trick pony, now we’re just the class that can’t do anything better than others.
there is no reason to play my favourite class now, whatever you want to achieve another class will do better.

ofcourse you’ll want to bring a warrior! they can kick while moving!
so what if they can’t do anything else as well as the other classes can, they can kick while moving!
so OP!
on a serious note, yes it totally sucks, no attempt at compensating what-so-ever,
i’m not surprised though, i’m as disappointed as i expected i would be each patch

The warrior, the worst class in the game.™

dasmurmeltier.8521:

Try to think about that from the position of the developer that wants to earn money with that game – what would you care more about? pve or pvp?

i’ve just spent an embarrassing amount of money on Planetside 2 microtransactions, a purely pvp game, there is alot of money to be made in pvp if the devs want it,
it’s clear that in gw2 pvp was just a side experiment, a minigame, a disappointment.

Darcy.2079:

they probably want to keep your hopes up as long as possible before bursting it on the patch day.

wait, people still have hope?
that must take some endurance!

anyone who has played several other MMOs will probably already hav an idea about this suggestion as it’s not a new concept.

problem
So you’ve leveled your first (or second) character to 80 and you’re thinking about levelling up others, but you don’t want to wear the mismatched different armor parts while levelling, or don’t want to feel forced into specific events you don’t like in order to grind new armor to not feel undergeared?

solution
other MMOs have the solution, Scaling Armor, a special kind of scaling armor that changes stats to be equal to decent/high (but not highest) equivalent gear of your level, this means that you can level up without the constant thought of “am i undergeared?” or “awww, i’m having fun here but i need to go to that other area i don’t like to get new pants!”
(it would be account bound)

cost
This gear is usually acquired at Exotic (or higher) equivalent difficulty/price by the players main character at higher levels (to avoid people using a single armor set on their first playthrough).

the pros of Scaling Armor:
encourages alting, for Anet this means peoples continued play!
helps avoid mandatory constant geargrinds, giving players supreme freedom.
you could transmute it to look like your favourite armor, making players feel unique.
you can play WvW with the armor scaling to “decent” 80 gear, giving people the option to level alts in wvw without feeling like cannonfodder.

the cons of Scaling Armor
with the removal of mandatory gear grinding people will avoid parts of the game that they don’t like but would usually feel obliged to do for gear, this could cause certain events to be less populated. (but the more fun ones would see an increased population).
selling pre 80 armor on trading post would be more difficult as more people would not want to buy armor they will level out of.

thanks!

trolling from the guy that bought you such classics as: “if you play hotjoin i don’t want you to have an opinion on the game you play.”
i don’t know which post was supposed to be amusing and which wasn’t…

not sure about wvw but i’ve been having a blast in Spvp with this zerker hammer build
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-ss-FwBFSKFQ0S4wK-60M4oL;1Y4kG;4T-J9946A;109-0;05;0C-k7W;1F-03F-035BL (need to copy and paste the link into browser)
its based around the constant CC, i never weapon swap in combat and just use sword and shield to make a speedy get away if things go south

i’d like to see offhand sword become a little more viable,
at the moment it’s a no-brainer to take shield for the interrupt and block,
also i think it’d be interesting if they made sword hits apply 3 stacks for a third of the duration instead of the current 1 stack for full duration, anyways nice vid!

Thresher.3049:

So, for those of us who’ve literally been in wvw since pre-launch and spent 90% of our time there, nothing.
7 months, nothing to show for it.

oh come on, i’ve spent 7 months in actual pvp, you know, the thing they severed from the rest of the game like a diseased limb, if you feel unloved in wvw imagine how the Spvp community feel!
we don’t gain xp, we don’t gain gold, we don’t gain skillpoints, any armor or weapons we get will all have the same stats as starter gear and we can’t wear them anywhere else in the game.
we have one game mode and 5 small maps.
there is no goal, nothing to aim for, grind for 300 rounds to watch a 41 at the bottom of the screen turn into a 42 and then do it all over again.
when you leave wvw what are you? a lv 80 in exotics capable of enjoying the rest of the game and new content.
when i leave pvp what am i? a lv 2 in starter gear, capable of enjoying the starting zone.
the reward for thousands of hours of Spvp…

Empiren.6401:

most people who have played WoW know that tanks don’t survive on their own.
without doing significant damage.

highlight of my time on wow was pvping as a max geared blood DK with twice everyones hp, constant health gains and topping the damage meter every BG
that being said, it was very cheap and required 0 skill, just like any of the copy/paste builds in Buildwars 2’s meta whether its dagger ele, backstab thief, bunker guard, trap ranger, s/p mesmer, they’re all the same copy/paste EZmode.

i skimmed through and what i read was:
you want the only mode i play (hotjoin) removed from the game
(tournament is ridiculous, unless you want to be stomped by a premade vs your 3-4 player solo team of rabbits)
you said nothing about balancing the classes
you said nothing about making more specs viable to escape Buildwars
granted i skimmed though so if i missed them my bad, but if you think removing/replacing (with something identical) and adding spectator mode will save pvp, then i think you’re very optimistic!
however i do agree that adding gemstore unlocks for pvp and making mists free would be a huge step in the right direction!

“if you only play hotjoin don’t point out that instant death is op.”

wow…just wow.
first these idiots tell you they want your part of the game removed because THEY don’t use it, now they tell you unless you play their part of the game you are’nt allowed an opinion.
we need gasmasks to survive the colossal brainfart they just released…

must suck to be invisibly stacking 20 stacks of bleed and actually getting hit,
please Anet make thieves immortal while they’re invisible so they can aoe stack 20 stacks of bleed in peace!

with a beast mastery / precision LB ranger i can get some freakishly huge burst
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-Fo-F-0;0F-u-r2gDV-0;9V8b;19T;0T0;0069;406B6 kitten 1F-03F-035BZ
open with casting Rampage as One+barrage while sending in your kitty, then pop quickness, “sick em!” and rapid fire, pewpewpew!
you could always replace the runes with something like Scholar, but i like the crit from the 100 precision.

edit: link wont work because Anet in their infinite wisdom decided to part of the link (-|V|4|6|; without the |) was offensive and should be replaced with “kitten”…
what idiot coded the filter!?…

the ability to level a character in pvp to use in pve.

this has several bonuses,
1. it allows you to advance through levels with content you’re not fond of. (or are having difficulty finding content)
2. it keeps the game varied.
3. it would make pvp actually part of the game and not feel like a leper shunned from society.
4. it would bring more people in to pvp, which pvp severely needs.

i was one of those people that LOVED dualwielding greatswords XD
it’s the ultimate show of a zerker player, sure you’ll die fast but by thor’s hammer you’ll give them a heap of corpses to remember you by!

i made a glassy HGH flamer build which combines massive might stacking and quickness, in short, it kills.
its very glassy though so its just for glassheads who prefer high kill count to survival.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-VRR;2Z-Vv0k5FQFx0;9;49T-T-4;047A;116A;1OR;4F-03F-035BQ

its a stupidly simplistic build too, no fancy weapon swapping or tactics, just keep flamer out the entire time and spam elixirs to keep might high (the thrown elixirs grant aoe might where they land too), pop elixirB and U and then blow things up

(i use Pack runes because i like the extra bit of crit, but its really up to you)

Beorn Saxon.4762:

It’s funny how the necro transformation elite is so viable, but no one ever uses the warrior,
Either the necro one is a ton better, or the necro just has poor other elite options.

the difference is, when you use the necro one you feel like a boss, hurling huge crits around but you lose your healing and utility,
when you use the warrior one your damage actually drops and you lose your healing and utility.

as for alternate elites, flesh golem is pretty nice, hits for decent amounts (when you can get it to hit!) and it demolishes gates+trebs so fast with its charge.
i do feel that Signet of Rage is such a great elite though, fury might and swiftness up most of the time, probably my favourite elite in the game.
so comparing one of the worst elites in the game with one of the best, its a no brainer that noone picks rampage, i really do hope they do something awesome with it though because the idea of turning into the hulk is an awesome concept.

mbh.8301:

Warriors could no longer…be picked?

actually warrior could knockback with hammer 4, follow up with a bullrush to knock the target down and get you to them, then use “stomp” to launch them again
or a map like that could even encourage us to pick the (currently worthless) elite Rampage giving us 2 more knockbacks, a knockdown and a charge

forget crits, the thieves i despise the most are the constant stealthing caltrop thieves, invisible while stacking insane stacks of bleed, if you remove them you’ll have 10 stacks back within a couple of seconds, 20 stacks within 10 secs.
the only time the thief appear is to spam perma-evade deathblossom, stacking even more bleed (and probably poison from Spider Venom) then ‘poof’ back to invisibility for more caltrops.

Kamata.5762:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Looks like a bug that appeared.. Reporting someone for a games-fault, isn’t going to work. You mean he hacked some of A-Nets scripts about TC and changed it? Seems legit.

Using exploits for your own good is also considered “illegal”

i think what he’s trying to say is:
1. if you were going through the trouble of hacking why the hell would you reserve it for a down state skill, if he was truely a hacker you would’nt have downed him.

2. bugs happen, back when killing minions/clones in ele mistform rezzed the ele it happened to me 3 times in a row, i had no idea what was going on, it’d have sucked if someone reported me for it.

moral of the story, don’t be so trigger happy with reporting, you’re jeopardizing peoples accounts for what sounds like a bug.

did’nt ya know the big pvp patch was this month?
and last month…and the one before that…
oh, and next month, and the one after that
eventually though the ole’ “we’re working on a pvp patch!” lie will lose its charm so they’ll have to actually make a pvp patch or the community will continue to trickle away as it currently is, one disappointed player at a time, until noone but Anet is left, wondering what happened.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Q: How would clones/phantasms react to a wall in the middle of a node? They can’t jump so you basically take the mesmer out to be a node-defender/make him useless on the node.

i think mesmer would have a huge advantage, being able to stay out of line of sight while their phantasms nuke down the enemy.