Guild Wars 2

Keeping the high achievement point skins prestigious (29k+) is a valid reason.

godsie.2864:

Malediktus.9250:

godsie.2864:

what are “less versions”?

misses the point – if u start late and want to work towards the legendary – then not much help is it!

Even if you miss season 1-3 you can still make it to ascended backpack if you get legendary division in the 4th one

that’s not the legendary one
it still penalizes new players to gw2 who come on late in the pvp seasons through no fault of their own. They should have the chance of obtaining and working towards that legendary back pack next year especially if they like the skin

being late might not always be your fault but in the same way it is unfair to the people who put in the effort at the right time.

godsie.2864:

what are “less versions”?

misses the point – if u start late and want to work towards the legendary – then not much help is it!

Even if you miss season 1-3 you can still make it to ascended backpack if you get legendary division in the 4th one

Legendary Strategist sounds impossible. I see that maybe once in 1000 games

You still get lots of achievement points and less versions of the legendary if you started late

Jekkt.6045:

Hugh Norfolk.2798:

If you can’t/don’t get the legendary if a specific year then there will be another way to obtain that specific backpack. I can’t go into any details on that, but you WILL be able to get previous years backpacks in some way.

disappointing, so there’s no value to them at all.

indeed, it is easy enough to get the legendary already
ascended backpack should require diamond division in all seasons of year of ascension
legendary backpack should require legendary division in all seasons of year of ascension

starting season 3 it will have no prestige anymore and I will probably reskin it because everyone will have it

There is nothing wrong with “Exalted Legend” and I would hate to see it changed.

Krysard.1364:

Hugh Norfolk.2798:

philheat.3956:

Hugh Norfolk.2798:

What are some suggestions for Legendary Titles?

Dunno If it’s possible, but it would be really cool at the end of s4, having an achievement + title like “Ascension Legend” unlocked only If you reached in every season the legendary division (so you already have all primordial , exalted etc. Titles).

Really “legendary”

Interesting. . .

Alright let’s say that you need to include “Legend” in the title. What titles would you suggest?

Mist Legend/Legend of the Mists seems an obvious option

Legend of the Mists is taken already (GW1 HoM title)

i want both, i paid for both

That Other Guy.7351:

Mike O Brien.4613:

Be angry about legendary weapons, sure, but how about the recent drought of content? That kind of thing happens when we spread ourselves too thin, and when we let the content development pipeline empty out so we can fight fires.

If the team is spread to thin isn’t that really a sign that the team is too small to handle the scope of the game and that more should be hired?

Yes, but Anets president needed a 600k bonus payment as far as I heared. Who needs 20 more employes if you can pay yourself a large bonus.

This news is making my depressions worse. Usually playing GW2 helps me with my depressions but these news arent helping at all

More like a 50% product

MashMash.1645:

Testudo.4620:

MashMash.1645:

Two things:

1) Can we can have an assurance that the remaining Legendaries will not be locked behind Expansion #2.

2) Other gametypes such as raids (less players do these than do Legendary weapons) and gemstore resources (we have enough stuff in the shop!) should be scaled back / suspended until all of HoT’s promised and advertised content can be implemented, and LS3 can be done properly.

you want to scale back raids? it has a team smaller than the legendary team. can everyone please get over the fact that they can’t raid

Exactly, if Legendary team is moved, so should the raid team – LS3 needs all the people it can get. I think all other gametypes should be scaled back / suspended so that LS3 can have it’s best shot – that is the bread and butter of the game. Not all that other stuff.

LS2 was bad. The story instances have little to no replay value. Just some ultra casual content. It is fine to have content like that, but it should not be at the expense of people who play for more than 2 hours every 1-2 weeks.
An MMO does not need much content, it needs quality content with a lot of replay value. Story instances have 0 replay value except the artifical replay value of achievements you can only do after you completed the instance before.

This sounds super boring.

Wolfey.3407:

felessan.9587:

People seem to be unclear that “suspended indefinitely” is a very delicate way of saying “cancelled.” Yes, it means that there is always the potential for this field to be picked up and worked on again, but the plan is not to spend any more resources on it. Ever.

“suspended indefinitely” no more resources devoted to it until other objectives are complete. Doesn’t mean that a developer on his lunch break won’t work on it if hes bored. E.g. of Lunch Break Content: Court Yard “Team Death Match”

“Cancelled” Not going to happen period. E.g. : Guild Wars Utopia

You really think devs will finish this in the lunch break if 6 people working full time on it were making so little progress? How naive.

felessan.9587:

People seem to be unclear that “suspended indefinitely” is a very delicate way of saying “cancelled.” Yes, it means that there is always the potential for this field to be picked up and worked on again, but the plan is not to spend any more resources on it. Ever.

Yes, looks like legendary weapons as endgame goals are ruined. I bet raids are getting scrapped after 3rd wing, too.

Well that is disappointing. I was looking forward to complete all the new precursor collections. I have all 72 collections complete already.

It is unlikely they will answer this, they cannot even explain why I have 1 AP more than I should have (apparently several devs checked)
Just never check your retired achievement section if an unfinished achievement would bother you

The game was close, but theoretically the 5 Solo people could have try harded while the 2 groups slacked for the win, so the endresult does not say much if the matchup was unfair to be honest. They should just bring full soloQ back.

It will still go to retired achievements, you will not loose any AP (in worst case it will turn invisible on the UI, but the API will still report your progress and you will not loose any AP)

Vavume.8065:

Malediktus.9250:

of course my win rate is low, I play all classes to get the achievements, even if I am horrible at them.

No you don’t, you switch classes just before the end of a winning match to get the achievments, you already admitted it yourself in another thread… see below

Malediktus.9250:

I got all classes 10/10 wins because of this. If you have kitten you can easily relog at 475+ for lowest chance to ruin it. You only need to be in map loading screen when match ends.

That first post was talking about Year of Ascension part 3, but for part 4 I used to relog trick to not ruin my MMR again incase MMR is of relevance for season 3.

godsie.2864:

why post this! unless to satisfy elitism

How? I told noone to “get good” or that MMR hell does not exist. In fact I still believe that most matches are uncarrieable unless you play on ESL level and can win 1v2 or 1v3 reliably. So without high MMR to get good team mates you will have a much harder time to reach diamond or legendary. If you have very high MMR you could probably afk in spawn and still win 50% of the matches because the other 4 people in your team will be good enough to beat 5 lower MMR people.

Magic Find does not help with this.
But you can try the gathering boost from tavern in guild hall. It might help but my sample size is too small to be 100% sure.

Guess what, there is one more bad player in legendary now
Almost purely blowouts…

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

you can play your strong profession and if the game is in your favor and your team is stomping them good, say leading 400ish to 200ish then consider swapping in the other profession for achievement when the game is almost ending.

Best advice. I got all classes 10/10 wins because of this. If you have kitten you can easily relog at 475+ for lowest chance to ruin it. You only need to be in map loading screen when match ends.

brannigan.9831:

You are still overestimating how fast your personal MMR rises or falls at any level of games. Just because you have a 70% win rate on the noob account doesn’t mean it has a higher MMR then an account with thousands of games and a win rate of 55%. It almost certainly does not. It wouldn’t make sense at all for it too. A-net should just make everyones MMR visible so we can be done with this nonsense once and for all.

Actually no. MMR has a very high volatility at the start when it does not have many games to judge you on yet. It takes hundreds if not thousands of games to stabilize.

Booms.2594:

Step 1 roll dh
Step 2 laugh at anyone who thinks mes is op

nah, dh is free kill for any class unless the guard is way more skillful than the opponent

Kossuth.2168:

Malediktus.9250:

Was doing a casual duoQ with a friend from ruby division (he was legendary last season so i think he is good enough) and this happened.
How is this even possible with a search range of +-15 pips? Only possible if all those legendaries had 0 pips in legendary, but I am doubtful since they played really good.

Anyway 90% of the matches end in blowouts no matter if its a win or loss. Really boring!

Legendary last season means nothing, you should stop assuming that along with assuming it´s all matchmaking faults.

The match you are showing looks fine to me, those Legendaries most probably just arrived to the division so are considered Diamond top tier and within +15 pips range. You are supposed to win matches against people above you in order to CLIMB the ladder, try to understand that. If you are not able to win matches against people above you, you will NOT climb. Stop grinding games and becoming this crazy and start improving yourself. My advice, open your mind and think about what you can do instead of blaming other people/the system.

I doubt they were new to legendary. They were ESL level legendaries (not going to say names). Does the pip search range becomes larger than +-15 pips if queue takes longer than 5min?
And nah I cannot be bothered to improve better than I am. I will just grind out tons of games and become another ragequit inducing baddie in legendary

Was doing a casual duoQ with a friend from ruby division (he was legendary last season so i think he is good enough) and this happened.
How is this even possible with a search range of +-15 pips? Only possible if all those legendaries had 0 pips in legendary, but I am doubtful since they played really good.

Anyway 90% of the matches end in blowouts no matter if its a win or loss. Really boring!

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

I wanted a glider that didn’t make noise. I am happy.

I think it is pretty boring (and lazy if its intended) that a legendary glider has no sound affects. I hope it gets fixed soon

If anything we need events with more “chaos”

Too bad for them. But a lot of people are as bad as division suggests

insanemaniac.2456:

Malediktus.9250:

I am really angry right now. I was on a hard earned win streak then this happened. The 4 people were from 1 guild and 3 of them had less then 10 points until far mid game. Utter trash matchmaking anet. If I soloQ I dont want to help out crappy PVE guilds!

you would rather have their carry trash an emerald/sapphire game by completely dominating? which also allows the pros to trash your games by queuing with ambers?

I would rather enforce a +-15 pip range for parties. Or make a solo/duo queue

I am really angry right now. I was on a hard earned win streak then this happened. The 4 people were from 1 guild and 3 of them had less then 10 points until far mid game. Utter trash matchmaking anet. If I soloQ I dont want to help out crappy PVE guilds!

Depends on your goals within the game. If they only play ranked for the title and play unranked otherwise they dont care if they push baddies to legendary.
Most good people I know stop ranked as soon as they reach legendary because long queue times arent worth it.

Yasi.9065:

You have 5 pips, you loose 2 due to defeats. Now you are at 3 pips.

Now there’s two ways:
1. Loose next match and win after -> down to 2 pips, up to 4 pips
2. Win next match -> up to 4 pips

First method is risky, you might not win that match after throwing the third match, which lets you loose more pips.
Second method is also better because you can get back on winning streak one match sooner.

I dont even know why this could be any kind of issue. Its so glaringly obvious.

Exactly this

Yasi.9065:

And still I usually beat them… or I loose if I have the bad luck of getting them on my team.

Anyway… on topic… why would legendary/diamond want to carry you to his division? So he can get bad matchups? Dont get it.

To make a large sum of gold?

on EU there are people offering this, but they use low division, high MMR smurf accounts for easy enemies

I dont really care what the rules of that speedrun community are (I am not part of it). To me it is clearly exploited and invalid.

Just lost another game we were clearly winning because my team suddenly went braindead mode and went dieing one by one on our close point and also lost mid during the process. Its really unplayable and 75% of the games I have at least one person from my blocklist in my team so easy predicted to loosing the match.
I was at 7 pips when I logged on and already back down to 3. Day time = unplayable

Reported this some time ago. Noone seemed to care about this issue

godsie.2864:

Malediktus.9250:

If I dont get legendary on my own by end of next week I will just pay some high MMR pvpers to carry me to legendary, better than missing the 1 AP.

I am an AP hunter but would never get some one else to get me 1 AP!! its not my achievement then – that says something !

this is what is wrong with pvp ! AP should not be there nor should pve rewards

Some people do everything they can to get every last AP possible.

I noticed a pattern with winning and loosing though. If I play at night (say 3 am) when the usual people diamond MMR hell people are sleeping I win games while I loose all the pips I gained at night during daytime again because the usual people I have on my blocklist appear in my teams again.
Maybe I should only play pvp at night from now on :/

Probably, but I rarely use this +1 feature since it is boring to me if we cannot see exact data ourself. Downvoting would be another thing to make it more used by me.

The biggest problem with the current pip system is that it rewards winstreaks more than non winstreaks, even if both equals a 50% winrate.
Lets see (w= win, d= defeat)
P1: W D W D W D W D = 0 pips
P2: D D D D W W W W = 7 pips
P1: W D W D W D W D W D W D W D W D = 0 pips
P2: D D D D W W W W D D D D W W W W = 11 pips
Both models show a 50% winrate, but the 2nd player is 11 pips ahead despite having the same win rate as the 1st player. It is imposible to say that player 2 is better than player 1, yet he is still ahead over 2 tiers.

Conclusion: The old system where you could gain -3 to +3 pips per match was a lot better.

Sounds like this is an exploit which makes the record invalid if you ask me

Galandil.9641:

Malediktus.9250:

GW2 rewards you for participation in every game mode, even in raids (since you get shards for wiping over and over). So it is just fair that pvp rewards you for participating too

Let’s keep the carebear attitude in PvE and not bring it in a competitive mode, alright?

Why? There are only like 100 people per megaserver who care about competive pvp, the rest wants some fun and rewards

I see you have Prince Vingador and Rtefan Saab on your team, they are a recipe to loosing and part of diamond MMR hell :p

GW2 rewards you for participation in every game mode, even in raids (since you get shards for wiping over and over). So it is just fair that pvp rewards you for participating too

You skipped the room where you need 5 people

It is +-15 pips for SoloQ, if there are premades it can be legendary+amber even

Yasi.9065:

I have way more bad necros kitten up my matches (especially team fights) than other professions.

Just saying… cant be that easy if so many fail to even live longer than 15 seconds on teamfights.

That is because in team fights you can get focussed and if you do not have shroud ready it is a free kill for the other team.

elainom.2918:

That will be some well deserved 1 AP and title there! A real show of prowess. Man after you spent more than 11k hours into this game that’s a shame and you are officially ridiculous whether you make it or not on your own.

I prefer being ridicilous than loosing my sanity over this stupid matchmaking.
Other people buy their raid boss kills, so what is the problem if I am going to buy pvp divisions lol.