Guild Wars 2

Animation fixed. Many thanks to the devs. Nice to know that they are listening to the people.

Meluna.1764:

How I mine for fish? XD

They will invent how…. >}=D

InfernoCrossing.8063:

I bought the sickle immediately without knowing it would have an animation. I had no idea it would come with one.

The little spring animation is sorta nice. I have no real problems with it in and of itself. My real problem stems from the mining animation used for it. It completely throws me off…

Then why? For the money you spent on this sickle, you could buy more than 625 same ori sickles. In one day, you spend about half of usual stacks of sickle. What approximately means that to recoup it, you will need ~ 3.5 years. The unique model? I agree, good. But that is not necessary. And do not justify such a price. Also clearly evident that the animation lasts longer than usual, making this thing even less effective.

I myself am a fan of such things, but if devs do not plan to change it, I will not buy another.

Hi. I’m not a particularly fan of whining, but… the animation of new sickle rly saddened me. First: I would like to preserve the unique sickle animation. I mean harvesting… Why character hews ground with sickle as with pick? It’s just mining animation… Preposterous somehow.
Second about the visual effect: it is just a little ranger’s healing spring =_= Perhaps it would be better to create a new unique animation with the… aquatic theme? This object, to put it mildly, is not cheap. And pick advances by effectiveness and usefulness in several times. However, the price is the same. It would be necessary to keep the visual effect at the same level at least, in that case.

Well, something like that. (

Dear developers, please correct female norn one-handed weapon size scaling at last. The majority (almost all) of swords are so huge, that even by one third drowning in the ground. Some weapons (such as Braham mace for example), almost as big as norn woman herself and it’s grip circumference twice her fist. It’s bigger than the same weapons in norn men’s hands.

Every time I bring some screenshots, my post throws in topic with individual equipment bugs. And simply forgotten. Must I screen ALL weapons?

I’m sure that similar theme was created before. And not only one.

However: the cloaks. Where are they? Why are they not? Tissue animation in this game, without false modesty, one of the best. A pleasant-looking cloaks were even in the first part (how many years ago!) Cloaks, I mean real long coats, not accessories on your back, would look awesome. Of tissue, skin, even fur on the shoulders and so on.

I would not want to just get a coat like something legendary and unique. It is better if they are equivalent in quality with other similar things and may be obtained along with them.
So why there is no cloaks?

I created this theme earlier in the discussion section. Because I did not notice the existence of “audio” section. I confess.
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First things first, I want to say that Jeremy Soule is my favorite composer. I have 4 discs with GW music, and I must say that over a third of the tracks are not used in the game, many are rarely used, such as at the phases of the personal stories. I think it’s a waste of potential. Personally, in my opinion, the music in the game is extremely important. And it’s great part of the overall experience. Ignoring these moments, you deprive a large proportion of the game atmospherics.

And often there are flaws, moreover: for example, in Orr suddenly begins to play an easy, relaxing tune from queensdale. The atmosphere immediately goes nowhere.
Or, in dragonbrand, for example, plays unobtrusive, easy music too.

I would like to see some correction in this regard pls, if it possable.

There are many beautiful compositions, barely involved in the game. Such as “The Seraph”, often encountered in the trailers before release. “Heritage of Humanity” – same situation, only in the opening human video. “Snaff’s Workshop” not even played, well, in the Snaff’s Workshop… strange. “The Walls of Ebonhawke” – brilliant soundtrack, but… there is not inside the walls of Ebonhawke. “The Vigil Goes to War” – perfect composition for Kryta locations. I’ve heard it only on the disk. “Ventari’s Legacy”, good music for Grove. “Tyria Awaits” – good underwater music. “Tengu Wall”. “Zhaitan” – never heard it in Orr. “The Darkness Will Fall”. “The Saga of the Norn” – must be in Hoelbrak. “The Vaults of the Priory”. “The Charr Triumphant” – suppa-duppa mega music, it MUST be in Black Citadel at least, not only in Tequatl battle. “Here Be Dragons”, excellent track, but it sounds only in battle with Zhaitan. I would like to hear “Scales of Issormir” more often too. Oh… and of course a individually aboit “Fear Not This Night” composition. Branded music, not occurring in the game AT ALL. Plays only after the murder of Zhaitan (where it just did not have time to listen), and a piece of it in the grove vistas. Sadly…

Well, enough of text. I hope the basic idea I opened.

I know that the game has even more music than there is on the disks. I would like to see some “rebalance of soundtracks” around the world. In the capitals, for example, in the remarkable places and so on.

A norn-female Guardian is missing voice shouting “hold the line”.

I just read it and I’m shocked a little bit. Do not be offended, but …
Anyone who whines that guardian need (REALY NEED) speed signet, and even more so that the guardian(!) utility(!) is crap(!) (OMG) and ask to change the 10% damage reduction on speed signet of (what you smoking there?) – In my personal opinion – curved handed noob. Play another class, I beg you. You understood nothing that Guardian good at.

With the new (already relatively) greatsword animation of female norn, all “sided” animation refuses to work. For example if you use Guardian’s wall of reflection (swing arm) or muddy terrain (throws something forward), the character just freezes in place and all other animation (even running) stops. Bug exists for a long time already.

Hi.
So… What about city mini-games, which, as I recall, promised nearly thirty? In addition, the developers have promised rewards such as town clothing items. Are there any work in this direction? In my opinion it would be a very smart move to add them now.

Without these things extremely picturesque towns are idle, which kills a fair share of gaming potential. I already asked about such things before. I would like to find out from the developers about their plans.

Arah set da best!

Hi! Dear devs, when will you fix a bug with animation of Frozen Abyss (trident 5)? The first tick is operating normally, but subsequent explosion animation is not there. It creates an impression that the ability simply does not work. I suppose bug somehow connected with the movement.

Hello, m8.
Well, living story, is living, just because it does not stand still, I guess. It would be strange if it can be rolled back. However, do not worry. It moves very smoothly and managed to miss you a little bit.

I guess you missed Halloween. Wintersday (it will be repeat)
The Karka attack on Lion’s Arch. Partial destruction of this. Counterattack followed by, with construction of the camps on new island and the murder of the Champion Karka(doing it for half a day, it was quite fun).
Donations for the repair of the LA city. =)

From the live storie you missed the, in fact, two quests that introduce us to new characters (Rox and Braham). Assistance to refugees, the attacks of combined forces of Dredge and a Legion of Flame (you can catch them even now). And the dungeon. Quite interesting, but some high-value rewards were not there. More cinematic effect…

Frankly, it seems to me that all this was just an outset for the events that will begin next. Pen test. About all of it you can read on wiki.

By and large, you missed a fine fuss with the refugees. Like “kiss the wounded there where it hurts”, “hammer marks !do not go here! on the road”, “bring memorabilia from those whom you have not had a kiss on the hurt spots.” “Find special items of refugees”. Determine the cause of disasters. Find the secret cipher of our agents. Fill its head villains in the dungeon. About the awards: missed the gloves, and pet (not the fact that you would get him, btw. You can buy it so far).

Is there any information about future professions? Except speculation like “in the first were ritualists, and now instead of them are engineers, so it must be paragons” =)

Aeonblade.8709:

Um. That is exactly what Anet did my friend. Cashed in on the reputation of GW1, promised many things through their little manifesto, then didn’t deliver. Now box sales have come to a major slowdown, so they milk the remaining people still hanging around with highway robbery style gem store pricing and RNG chests that make even Perfect World games blush.

I want this game to succeed, but how long can you stick around when every patch strays further from what they said the game would be.

Well, personally I started playing first GW when I found out about the second. More than a dozen of my friends and a hundred acquaintances, same, had not even heard about GW1 but love the second. Most of the players, in fact, does not know about the first part. So you’re wrong. Most of what they promised they implemented. Lacking only the pleasant things like city events. Chests? Why? I have not bought a single and enjoy the game. Now you can get chests from mobs. During the evening, about 5 chests easily. Patches are very high quality and interesting. The only game so far, which is really tells the story. And your judgment is built largely on the basis of resentment at the fact that the game did not meet any of your personal expectations. Isn’t it so?

Fungalfoot.7213:

With the whole ascended debacle and now the announcement of WvWvW specific infusions I’d have to say no. The game is headed in a way which I cannot support and as such I’m not willing to sink more money into it. The original vision which I paid to see realized has been abandoned and I with it.

Oh, come on! It will be something like a + -2% damage to players or mobs in the WvW. Exclusively for the moral self-satisfaction, no more. People like to farm something that they think they need. WvW players want to equip for the WvW, accordingly, therefore they feel left out with this gear to protection from agony. By and large, no one not even feel the difference. Do not dramatize

Aeonblade.8709:

Suck the money out of the brand…So kinda like Anet did with the Guild Wars franchise? It goes both ways. I don’t like being lied to about a product either.

Well here u are completely wrong.
First: there is only one product with GW franchise – is GW1, and it was the same innovative MMO at it’s time like second now. The second part – a brand new product, devoid of clichés.
The second goesn’t “gets by” success or the ideas of the first part.
Secondly: it is impossible to argue that the game was made for the idea and the idea of ??it has and will continue to be, gathering clones created by these ideas by other developers..

Sucking money out of the brand – is selling a massive amount of copies, recoup the costs of product development, which often proves to be quite commonplace and of poor quality and does not implement all the promises. Huge sale mainly provided by success and/or popularity of the PREVIOUS parts or the success of any other products with this franchise. (Remembering StarWars and EA.)

The already clear that Anet is not involved in this. But Bethesda could.

marnick.4305:

To all those that claim GW2 is still not perfect ….

My GW2 folder is actually called C:\Guild Wars 1.9 because experience taught me MMOs are usually in beta until the first expansion pack (at least, some for at least 2 more expansions). Until the first expansion, I will consider GW2 a beta product, like all other MMOs I played at launch.

Disagree. The game might not be perfect. But it is not “underdone”, as u mean.

With that, the game does not put a lot of things promised, it is still close to the ideal. There does not appear serious bugs mechanics, destroying some aspect of the game. (Played Warhammer online ever?).

In addition most of the complaints some sort of “and where the raids?” and “where hardcore?”, “and where a bunch of awards for this or that”, " there is too muchgrind" “there is too little grind”, “my class is not like I wanted to”, “why thou class is stronger is PvP than mine” and stuff like that. Most of complainers did not pass any serious dungeon or high fractals or, even, participated in the qualitative WvW raids. So it’s all complain just for the sake of complaining. Will be always complain. The game can not meet all the wishes of all the players. It is simply not possible.

Plus, I want to note that this game is very different in structure from the others. Everyone was waiting for it and rejoiced. And now there is a lot of whining on why is there no trivial components from other projects. Like raids, and directed healing, ever-increasing level of equipment, etc. Didn’t u think that it’s the have to abandon the template format and enjoy a new way?

r z.7261:

Probably not because I’ll be playing The Elder Scrolls Online by the time Anet releases a GW2 expansion.

Do not waste your time. Did you see the “leaked” videos? Another clone with new elements, which are also cloned. And look … 2013 and still can not make normal tissue physics. Disgraceful. Infamous triangular robes…. Bwe… Character animation, by the way… eeem… does not shine, as in other series lineup. Sadly, but it’s another attempt to suck money out of the brand, as it is fashionable in recent years.

First things first, I want to say that Jeremy Soule is my favorite composer. I have 4 discs with GW music, and I must say that over a third of the tracks are not used in the game, many are rarely used, such as at the phases of the personal stories. I think it’s a waste of potential. Personally, in my opinion, the music in the game is extremely important. And it’s great part of the overall experience. Ignoring these moments, you deprive a large proportion of the game atmospherics.

And often there are flaws, moreover: for example, in Orr suddenly begins to play an easy, relaxing tune from queensdale. The atmosphere immediately goes nowhere.
Or, in dragonbrand, for example, plays unobtrusive, easy music too.

I would like to see some correction in this regard pls, if it possable.

There are many beautiful compositions, barely involved in the game. Such as “The Seraph”, often encountered in the trailers before release. “Heritage of Humanity” – same situation, only in the opening human video. “Snaff’s Workshop” not even played, well, in the Snaff’s Workshop… strange. “The Walls of Ebonhawke” – brilliant soundtrack, but… there is not inside the walls of Ebonhawke. “The Vigil Goes to War” – perfect composition for Kryta locations. I’ve heard it only on the disk. “Ventari’s Legacy”, good music for Grove. “Tyria Awaits” – good underwater music. “Tengu Wall”. “Zhaitan” – never heard it in Orr. “The Darkness Will Fall”. “The Saga of the Norn” – must be in Hoelbrak. “The Vaults of the Priory”. “The Charr Triumphant” – suppa-duppa mega music, it MUST be in Black Citadel at least, not only in Tequatl battle. “Here Be Dragons”, excellent track, but it sounds only in battle with Zhaitan. I would like to hear “Scales of Issormir” more often too. Oh… and of course a individually aboit “Fear Not This Night” composition. Branded music, not occurring in the game AT ALL. Plays only after the murder of Zhaitan (where it just did not have time to listen), and a piece of it in the grove vistas. Sadly…

Well, enough of text. I hope the basic idea I opened.

I know that the game has even more music than there is on the disks. I would like to see some “rebalance of soundtracks” around the world. In the capitals, for example, in the remarkable places and so on.

In my opinion Karka veterans have TOO much evade. It seems that 90% of their skills is accompanied by dodge. This makes killing them terribly boring. If several people killing such veteran, thereby encourages frequent use of its abilities, he is dodging nearly 80% of fight time. This fact isn’t add special difficulty to them. But it becomes boring. And annoying. Is it possible to re-balance their abilities because of the new add-on and reduce the surprising number of evade? Raise them to HP, instead…

So…. no ideas? )

It did not help. Everything is still.

here is crush report, btw:

Thank you.
Well, I cleared 35gb, still no changes. Do not know what to remove else

update: 50 already. Can this patch be THAT big?

Hi. Thanks for the reply. Is that it?

I can not download the latest patch. Loading crashes with error. I turned off all possible firewalls. Loading stops on about 1703-1706 file.

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Is it possible to play GW2 with gamepad? Is it convenient? Doesn’t it violate a user agreement?
How to do it? How to configure? Can someone share the optimal settings? Or smth… =3

Speaking about this: have developers any plans to introduce full gamepad support? Suppose it’s not too convenient, but it could increase game rating or even play a crucial role in the choice of some people.

HellOfGods.9873:

first of all this game is called guildwars 2 but ive been in 0 guild fights

It is named due with the events that occurred after the local gods left the world. Name assumes no presence. Although the developers have promised guild battles already. I tend to believe them.

1UP

I’ll make my contribution.

1. First, what is meant by “soon get tired?” What a argument? Sooner or later you get bored of everything. Periodically, I geting tired of GW2 itself. Despite the fact that I love this game. Easy way out – If you get tired of something – do not do it.

2. MMO’s are good for its bossibilities. Such “mini” game is a possibility. It’s better when bossibility is always there, but not when it is given once a year.

3. This is a full game within the game, which can produce on separate disk, and it will successfully marketed. The presence of such things in game permanently – great advertising and guaranteed influx of players. (Personally, I even pulled in game five friends and returned one who did not like GW2 (he was delighted) by showing them that).

3.2. Better to say “we Have another game inside the game” than “sometimes have”

4. This thing is a masterpiece. Remove it for a year, “so that people did not criticize” tantamount to bury in the ground work of Arts and dig out every year, so that it did not manage to find flaws.

5. That it contradicts Lore? Asuran scientist invented a virtual reality. In this case, Asuras are constantly inventing things inappropriate to lore.

6. The game is clearly expected for “entrance fee” (take a look at the machine issuing the coins (there are holes with a symbol of gold and gems)). Adding more things to buy for the baubles will provide an alternative way to farm, and with it the flow of currency from donaters. From here more money for the development of the project.

7. It is an ambitious creative impulse of Josh Foreman and co., which invested a lot of soul on it. SAB deserves to enjoy it regularly. This should not gather dust on the shelf for 11 months in a row.

Ah… If all, who are complaining are so smart as they try to seem, they have to understand such things as that at developing of this SAB, jump puzzle etc, involved a SPECIAL SEPARATE team of developers. If to listen to people, so ALL developers are left out to do jump puzzles, giggling gleefully over the poor deprived gamers of all classes and pvp players. Can you imagine what would happen if the “resources” represented by developers who do puzzles suddenly will be sent do balance?

I will die if they’ll remove it! Uaaaah!!! :’(

Dear developers, do you realy want to remove this miracle at the end of April? How? Why? For what?
Do not do it!
Please!

Dear developers, do you realy want to remove this miracle at the end of April? How? Why? For what?
Do not do it!
Please!

Frankly, dropped jaw to the floor when I saw the adventure box. The product of tremendous proportions. Genuinely impressed and grateful.

But then the question arises: developers, in fact, made a whole new game within the game. Why is not as yet taken the time to add such details as the target shooting in Divinity Reach, polimok arena, artillery shooting in black citadel, etc.? Which were conceived even before the game release… All of this is not even close to standing on scale…

Is it possible to get this armor skin in pve? And where
(PvP version called “PvP Masquerade armor”)

Not faced with the problem of boring sound yet. But the absence is sad. In any case, if the sound is sick, and it EXISTS – you can simply turn it off. If it is not – you can not do anything. Right?

Make sound effects of guardian 1h-sword autoattacks more expressive, please. It seems that this abilities have no special sound effect as such.

+1 to Fishing . . . .

Linguistically Inept.6583:

im not against it (well… not for minions, elementals, spirit weapons or spirits – ranger pet names should be mandatory), however; you seemed to state that name tags were…

Unnecessary

Personally, I can not imagine how one can manage to lose a pet on the screen. Or, even more so, confuse it with the enemy. Especially Elementalist.
So obligatoriness of pet nameplates – is purely a personal opinion.

Well, it’s obvious. Yet on subject Friend or Foe can be argued.
But, howbeit what do you have against the OPTION? Who’ll force you to switch it?

Give the option to hide the names of pets, please. Unnecessary writing on the screen are annoying and spoil pictures drama . Especially for necro.

They have a smaller set of weapons available. Therefore it takes smaller volume of equipment. All on equal terms.

Champion ogre chieftain on the meta event “The ogre assault” in blazeridge steppes is immortal, for each quarter of his HP he cast aoe, then restores itself 100% health, even under effects of poison.
The previous time I saw this event a few months ago. Then we could not kill him in ~ten, holding him at a pack of friendly NPCs, moreover. It is sad to see that so far nothing have changed.

I beg you, change the model of the kodan greatsword. It looks like a great pizza paddle made of ice! The very concept of kodan weapons interesting and I would like to collect a full set, but the greatsword is laughable, and without it collection breaks =) . Please make it a bit narrower and longer. As a one-handed sword. It’s gorgeous.

I beg you, change the model of the kodan greatsword. It looks like a great pizza paddle made of ice! The very concept of kodan weapons interesting and I would like to collect a full set, but the greatsword is laughable, and without it collection breaks =) . Please make it a bit narrower and longer. As a one-handed sword. It’s gorgeous.

Seras.5702:

… No other profession has a permanent pet …

Necro has.

zeus.9634:

Frosty and Frosty Law Firm.4981:

Mesmers laugh at our ability to duel, which is virtually non-existant to the average player that doesn’t have the time to spend three hours a day researching an obscure build that will allow you to survive ten seconds longer if applied correctly.

oh well… shouldnt even reply to tis but whatever.. is your main really a ranger? did you just lvl him to 80 and then ya had to notice that its useless and went to lvl a new char? or did you actually put time into it?
that directly leads to the next point.. yeah it may take some time to figure out a build that fits you and maybe also some training to play it. but is that really bad?
do you expect the ranger to be uber when you just specc it a bit here and there without any knowledge?
you can gimp every class if you have no clue about what ya are doing.

and does a ranger have to be better than every other class in any aspect? why has a ranger to be a better tank than a tank? why has a ranger to output more dps than the dps class thief?

if a ranger could do what you expect of him, do you know what would happen then? everyone cries OP OP QQ and anet nerfs. cool!

this also leads back to the discussion, a ranger is not an archer/scout, its a beastmaster.
guess thats also the reason why so many are disappointed, they have the wrong expections.
maybe its just not the class you are looking for, doesnt mean its useless, you only personally dislike it. but that also means its exactly the class other players are looking for and therefor like it.

so, just dont play a ranger..?

Pretty simple. Here lies the answer to the subject of this topic. If he is not better than anyone else in any of the aspects, so he preferred replaceable in any situation. If you need a tank – take the tank. If you need a dps – take DPS class. If you need support – take support. Why take half-measure of something. This makes the ranger class exclusively about ranger.

There should be a highlight. Something that makes it stand out above the rest.

zeus.9634:

MeGaZlo.9516:

Because they are useless. Why not to take them? Because 80% of the rangers can not produce normal damage, can’t support, their pet dead all the time, and when it alive when, it aggro whole dungeon.

so what about the other 20%? they can produce normal damage, can support, their pet is alive and it doesnt aggro the whole dungeon. but still they are useless? kinda some contradiction in your post. all i read is hate or frustration. you either get owned by rangers all the time or you cant play one on your own..?

im happy that we run always with the guild, in 1650h playtime i never had to pug once so i never had to meet people like you ingame.
in our guild we run dungeon groups no matter what classes, we dont care, we take whoever got time and we always clear any dungeon without any problems in a more or less short time. even with groups that contain 2-3 rangers, works like a charm.

thats the great thing about gw2 but sadly there are still wannabe elitists like you are which mean they have to clear cof p1 in 10mins, 12mins is unacceptable and a waste of time and its only the rangers fault. but well i guess from your view its not possible to clear cof p1 in 12mins with a ranger in the group, probably not even possible at all, is it?

im so sick of this profession racism even when im not affected.. but already reading about it makes me barf.

The other 20 percent, just do not pull the party back. But they can not offer something… extraordinary.

Since you go to the personality, a little bit about myself: I’m not interested for dungeon time-grindind. I play for fun. Go with those who will call. As many hours as you, of course, I have not played with rangers. It’s about 600h on 1st and 100-150 on second. But I have absolutely all classes and know their capabilities. And I write posts on the ranger’s forum not because I am fierce hater of this class or … class racist X) … or set a goal to hurt the feelings of someone like you, but because I’m very disappointed in this class and have the opportunity to give it a fair assessment. I’m not fan and not hater.

By the way, is the fact that the class has even appeared haters, do not tell you that the problems are taking place?

I can responsibly say, that trying to make a class “jack of all trades”, the developers were afraid of it’s hypothetical snazzy, and made the class flawed in all aspects. Class is not terrible and quite playable. But no more. Give something that ranger can do – and I will give you a class that can do it better. Unfortunately this is obvious, and many people know about it. And thanks to the high percentage of curve-hands gamers playing rangers, who think that “if even bots use it…..” this class is not loved by many.

I would like to see the opposite picture.

Speaking of PvP – the average ranger crushed for 8-10 seconds, without having to deal almost any damage. With most of the classes. Doesn’t that grieve thee? Me do.
On wvw our guild raids takes 2-3 ranger in fully thougness\vitality exclusively for healing spring. However, may have to be more, but they simply are not. (Even in that outfit spirits do not last long, by the way. Another sad fact)

The basic game content declared as “exploration”. “Fast leveling and gearing” here do not make sense. This game, in its entirety, is a coherent picture. There is no “end game” and will never be. You should not apply bored MMO standards to this game

Ah, mate, don’t talk nonsense. Ranger complex class? This is philosophical nonsense for the fans. Ranger as simple as heel. All its complexity is limited to coming up with an adequate build in which pet will not die from one spit.
Why rangers do not liked in the dungeons? Because they are useless. Well, it’s true – they are not completely useless. But they lose in utility to any other class.

Why not to take them? Because 80% of the rangers can not produce normal damage, can’t support, their pet dead all the time, and when it alive when, it aggro whole dungeon.

STOP!

Now the question is: do you not look at the situation from the other side – maybe this kind of problem because the class is not that difficult as you want to think, but because he is just weak?
What’s so special about ranger, that you need to exert so much effort and attention, just to be on par with the others?
This, in my opinion, not complexity, but weakness.

Zenith.7301:

Agadar.4931:

Daemon.4295:

Agadar.4931:

On the contrary. I’ve been the target of many compliments, some of which complimented my class as well.

Dungeons in this game are easy. It’s more about player skill than a class’s abilities.

This, absolutely. I’ve never gotten any sort of complaints for being a Ranger, whereas I’ve seen people kicked on multiple occasions for being new to a dungeon.

Admittedly though I have received negative feedback in the Jade Maw fractal due to my pet getting targeted all the time. Even my spirits are sometimes targeted. We suffer more from this than mesmers (phantasms and clones) and necromancers (pets) because they can decide not to use minion-summoning abilities, whereas we cannot stow our pet.

A mesmer that doesn’t use illusions just lost 80% of his damage. Believe it or not, illusions are actually a greater proportion of a mesmer’s damage than ranger pets are with rangers.

The only reason mesmers aren’t in the same state as rangers regarding dungeon AoE is because they can more quickly replace illusions.

If Deceptive Evasion (clone on dodge) were taken out, mesmers would be pretty screwed in PvE as that’s their big clone generation tool.

Completely wrong opinion.
Mesmer’s clones – is part of mesmer. His abilityes work THROUG them. They are designed for conveyor micromanagement “called, he did his job, you blew it and inflicting damage, called the next.”
They, generaly, appear right next to the enemy and do not require any speed buffs (etc) to successfully attack it. They originally “cotton”, as they are designed to ensure that quickly die. And even if they quickly die – they do their job.

Ranger’s pet – is an appendage. It is hindrance. It requires attention, buffs and calculating talents. Ranger is not designed to ensure that his pet is dead. If both pets die – just replace them does not turn the whole fight. And you, yourself, as good as dead too, then. Since nearly one-third (and this is the only such class) utility skills works only on (or exclusively with) pet.

Ranger and pet have no synergies, such mesmer and his clones have. Against the background of mesmer, ranger’s mechanic looks a tear in the game design.