Guild Wars 2

They won’t let you keep the Revenant. You get free stuff on your BETA Character and a copy of your Bank. The only way they could do it is by unlocking the Revenant for your normal Char Slots but even that is unlikely since it is still in developement.

IF I play this BWE I will go with:

Legends:

• Mallyx + Ventari

Weapons:

• Sword/Axe + Hammer/Staff

Stats:

• Trinkets: Apothecary
• Armor: Carrion
• Weapons: Apothecary, Carrion or Giver’s

Runes/Sigils:

• Rune of Tormenting
• Sigil of Torment + Accuracy/Intelligence/Malice/Perception

Traits:

• Corruption: Demonic Defiance, Spontanous Destruction, Maniacal Persistence
• Salvation: Tranquil Balance, Eluding Nullification, Selfless Amplification
• Invocation: Fierce Infusion, Equilibrium, Shrouding Mists

At the Moment i am still hyped for the Revenant but i hope it is not only because it is new. When i play GW2 nowadays i am like:

1. “yeah, i am back home from work, let’s have some fun with GW2”
2. Starting Guild Wars 2 and logging in
3. “hmm which Toon should i play”? Then i go through all my characters in the log in Screen with different shapes of “No”, “Meh” and “Not at the Moment”
4. if i make it past the Login i enjoy the game for several hours or am bored after a few minutes.

None of the Characters i have atm make me WANT to play. When i am at work or on the way home i am always like “I take my Mesmer into WvW tonight” or “I will make a few Fractals with my Ranger” or “I am going to test this new Idea for my Necro”.

But when i finally arrive at the Login Screen and have the choice, it is all meh again :-(. I hope the Revenant fixes that.

If we go by Fyonna, the Druid will get Minions for Utilities :-D

ScribeTheMad.7614:

This is becoming a serious problem, Minis continue to grow is size and its getting ridiculous.

They’re supposed to be MINI for crying out loud. They don’t have to be perfectly scaled to each other.

Looks like you missed the April Fools Day in Guild Wars 1 a few years ago. Minis and Players swapped their size and it was awesome.

Danama.1462:

aside from using tomes of knowledge you still need to run around the core content and start filling in your waypoints.

you can always buy Black Lion Chests and Keys until you have 486 “Teleport to Friend”s. Party up with a Buddy with full Map Completion and let him Taxi you to every Waypoint on the Map.

MiniEquine.6014:

MauricioCezar.2673:

In other hand, we got repetition of profession skill – Shouts.
In other hand, trough the ele warhorn we got confirmed that those ascended skins datamined are the elite specs weapons skins. There was a glint shield there, and a pole staff there. This is 2 repeated profession weapons right there.
In other hand, Seens like the chances of thief getting pole staff, actually rose to 90%.

In Other hand, Staff thief seens much more amazing than WH ele. Don’t complain, or I’ll curse you to get a off hand torch.

Seriously this. Imagine a melee AoE thief class focused on martial arts. Melee staff could have some amazing animations worked in with the most acrobatic class in the game (even has a traitline named for that too!). Maybe Thief will get stances? Martial arts commonly have different offensive/defensive stances that allow for more efficient combat.

Thief will get Shouts:

• THIS IS AN ASSASSINATION!
• I AM OVER HERE!
• I AM COMING FROM BEHIND!
• NOW YOU ARE DEAD!
• I AM PLACING A TRAP FACE-DOWN AND END MY TURN!

TheGreenGuy.7134:

It’s a great mini, perfect in my eyes. I just don’t like how it’s obtained. Everyone can easily grab one and that makes size an issue, if it was locked behind an achievement size wouldn’t matter because less people would have it. In my opinion it is one of the coolest mini pets out there but 2 step verification takes about 3 minutes to set up and being honest only secures the safety of your account even more. I just wish it was challenging to get cool stuff…

Setting up a Security Measure for an Account IS an Achievement for 99% of the Gaming Community.

BrotherBelial.3094:

Sorry OP, I thi k it’s great just the way it is. And don’t worry it’s the new thing at the moment. When something else"cool" pops up. I’m sure 99% of the dragons will disappear. Not me though. I think its epic. And will be my mains companion for years to come.

Exactly. Look how everyone flipped out about Mini Pet Rock. Now all the Rocks are gone and everyone rocks a Dragon.

ArmoredVehicle.2849:

A friend deleted her character with the legendary staff on it by mistake, didn’t get the character nor the weapon back. And we did send many emails and explanations about a genuine mistake (another of her characters looked very similar in name and appearance).

What do we learn from this?

• Always check the Inventory of the Character you want to delete before you delete it
• Don’t name one Character xXxKillerxXx and the other xXxKilIerxXx (one of them has a capital i as an “L”)and make them look the same and have the same Profession.

The only thing you can realistically hope for is a 3 day Head Start for Prepurchasers.

Shrubsy.9720:

SnowHawk.3615:

Shrubsy.9720:

Boof. It has a nice ring to it.

The main love interest in the original Teenwolf with MJF was named Boof.
I applaud that.

Huh! So she was. Haven’t seen that movie in ages. Wonder if that was bubbling somewhere down there in my unconscious—was just trying random 4 letter/one syllable names as far as I was aware.

Thanks for pointing that out!

maybe you watched “Home”, the cute Little Aliens are called Boov.

Do you have a back story if so what is it?

• Female Sylvari of the Nightmare Court

What race are you going with?

• Sylvari but Asura could still take the spot

What weapons are really tickling your fancy?

• Sword for Misty Mobility and Axe

What is your favourite legend?

• Mallyx and Ventari for his Bubble

How are you going to make your Revenant look?

• The base Color scheme for Revenant is Red/Black/White, i will go with Pinky Purple instead of Red to perfectly match the Color of the Nightmare Weapons and my Mawdrey.

Is it now going to be your main or just an alt?

• I start out with her and will see from there on. The plan is to main here and get my first World Completion (highest in the years since Early Access is somewhere around 60%).

Sagat.3285:

It’s the same for every class thief trickery,ele arcade,war discipline etc. the unique line naturally fits all or is intended to.

Next Ele-Elite after Tempest comfirmed: “Game Master”

Signets don’t really fit the Energy Ressource, but Wells do. I for myself speculate that those are Glint specific Wells. To make them a bit more unique, they are all Upkeep Skills with a cost of 5 Pips/second (or 6 if 5 is OP). If we assume 5 Pips, that means that we can maintain 1 forever, as long as we don’t spend our Energy (-5 Pips means 0 Energy Regeneration). To Keep them balanced they could have a downside, for example backfiring if one is active and we reach 0 Energy.

“But Mesmers already got Wells!!!” sure, but Reaper already got Shouts, that did not stop Tempest from shouting as well.

Here are my ideas for changes to the Corruption Trait Line:

• Fuse Rampant Vex and Yearning Empowerment and make it a Major Grandmaster (I would not say no to an increase of the additional Torment duration from 33% to 50%) so it competes with Diabolic Inferno and Pulsating Pestilence in the Grandmaster Tier (Grandmaster Tier being all about Conditions then).

• Put Maniacal Persistence in the Spot where Rampant Vex is right now (Minor Adept).

• Add a new Minor Grandmaster (Resistance is not futile): “While in Legendary Demon Stance and under the effect of Resistance, get 2s of Resistance for each incoming Condition.”

Maniacal Persistence is not strong enough to stay a Grandmaster Trait and feels out of place between two Condition Traits. Fusing Rampant Vex and Yearning Empowerment and making it a Major Grandmaster, makes room for another Minor Grandmaster and frees the Minor Adept for Maniacal Persistence. With the new Minor Grandmaster I want to fix a problem that Mallyx has, which is overloading himself with conditions but dieing to them because we have no cleanse or only a handful of ways to apply Resistance. To keep the Trait in check, I limited it to LDS so you can’t jump around with Shiro and be basically immune to conditions. Another factor to keep it from stepping into Diamond Skin territory is the condition (hah!) to have Resistance on you for the Trait to give you more Resistance.

Lastly about increasing Torment from +33% to +50%: Poison has a Trait for that aswell and Torment is our Baby, so why not give us the sweet 50%? With that we can cap Torment at +100% if we dedicate our Gear to it. 50% from the Trait, +45% from Torment Runes +10% Sigil. Yes I know I can reach that with 33% aswell, but for that I have to use Giver’s Weapons which would be no Problem if there would be Ascended Versions for this Prefix.

Before the possible Mesmer Uproar: Yes I know that you only get +33% on your Baby (Confusion) but you are in way better shape than Revenants ?

The only thing i am a bit sad about is the whole “Our Monsters will not be standing around picking flowers”, while there are definately many many Monsters that do exactly that.

I liked the actual UW Combat for Revenant during the Test Weekend.

I played Fractals with my Rev and rolled the UW Fractal for first. I was finally able to play the role i always wanted to play “The useless NPC that just runs with you and has to be escorted”.

I had no skills (except for drowning #4), a Blindfold, Heavy Armor… Heck if we think about it, I totally roleplayed Kormir in that Fractal!

Wishful thinking? Her Elite applying good old Fragile http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fragile

We Germans got “Sturmbote” which translates to “Harbinger/Envoy of the Storm” so not as bad as the Spanish Guys, im interested what went wrong with the French Translation :-D

Corran.4957:

Enyo Toshiro.
Female human.

Enyo is the goddess of war and destruction. Companion to Ares in Greek mythology.
Toshiro because he my fave character in Bleach universe

Ulquiorra would take that spot for my personal Bleach Favorite. If we talk Shinigami only… Yachiru i guess.

Wwefan.4982:

Betas are like ghost accounts of your real one so you can still see your achievements, friends list and wardrobe but you can’t chat in guild or use the trading post.

i know but it is not about Guild Chat or Trading Post, it is about playing the stuff i play every day with everyone else, like Fractals or PvP. Map and Groupchat was enough for the Rev Event, i don’t Need more Chat Options I just don’t want to be stuck on a single Map with 100% Revenants.

Kaligos.7285:

I think they will, since there are only 4 specializations left to be revealed. And with the release of HoT coming closer every day, they won’t have much of a choice.

What I do hope is that they will make a beta event, so we can test those specializations.

We have Dragonhunter, Chronomancer, Reaper and Tempest. We are still missing Revenant, Warrior, Thief, Druid and Engineer.

is it 100% certain that Elite Specs will be the same as Core Specs as in spending Hero Points to unlock them?

what if they are a Reward Track at which end you get the specific Armor Piece for the E-Spec (Hood, for Reaper, Glove for Dragonhunter, Shoulder for Tempest) and inbetween you unlock the Skills and Traits?

So a BWE from the 7th to the 9th of August? wink wink

I really really really…really liked the fact that the Revenant/Stronghold Preview Weekend took place on the Live Server and not on an isolated one like the Verdant Brink Beta.

Has Arena Net said anything about this matter? Thanks to the Preview Weekend I am now spoiled when HoT Betas are concerned and if the real BWEs will lock us away from the Live Server onto a single Map with only Revenants around, it might be a big letdown for me and become boring fast. I am used to taking my Revenant to all the places my other Characters go daily (Fractals, PvP, etc.)

I know the BWEs are for testing HoT Content aswell, but if you find a way to integrate the HoT Maps (only accessible for the Prepurchasers) into the Live Server for the BWEs, it would be the best for everyone. The people that want to further test the Revenant and do not want to spoil HoT Maps/Story during a BWE could just do their Fractals, WvW, whatever with their Rev and the others can explore the Maguuma Jungle to their hearts content.

P.S. to A-Net: Please reroll or create a new copy of our Accounts for the BWE, because I learned the hard way that if you delete your BETA Char, your new Character does not get new Rune/Sigil /Trinket Boxes but only the ones for Armor and your Bank is not reset. Thanks to that my Preview Weekend ended earlier because I did not like to play a Revenant without Runes, Sigils and Trinkets in PvE.

Oreithyia.3064:

NapTooN.6283:

Oreithyia.3064:

traslation is complicated. the same images aren’t used for the same phaenomenon in every language. In German it kind of fits, the “Schnitter” or “Sensenmann” (scythe man) is basically the same metaphora as the “Reaper”, but i suppose it is more difficult with the romanic languages.

the translation of “Revenant” had more people scratching their head though…because the translation of “wider” is “against” not “again” (which would be “wieder”).
So the translation of “Widergänger” would be “counterwalker” or “Contravenant”, which is in my opinion not a very fitting decription of what the class is about gameplaywise. With the other classes you know roughly what the class is about, when you just log on the first time and see their name (engineer->uses machines and tech, elementalist->using elements to attack, thief->using stealth attacks, guardian->protects, supports and guards, Necromancer-> uses necromancy etc.).
I know the German translation team did it, to add a play of words there…you know the Revenant going against all obstacles and stuff…buuuut it is kind of cheesy, in my opinion, and doesn’t do much to show the difference between the Revenant and the other classes…because the other classes go against all obstacles as well…so generally every class should be called “Widergänger”.
I wish they’d have sticked to the literal translation. I like puns but it’s not always the time to make one.

Widergänger is an actual word in the german language and describes “things” that come back from the Spirit Realm, or the Grave (“Wiedergänger” counts as the same but as far as i am concerned, “Widergänger” is the more common one here in Germany). Widergänger is often used as a substitute for Undead for example. Yes Revenants are not Zombies, but they come from the Mists (The Spirit Realm thematically) so Widergänger is a 100% fit to describe the Profession.

Yes, the “WiEdergänger” is an actual figure of german-ish mythology, but writing it without the “e” changes the meaning, for a big part of the German native-speakers. because “wider” means “against” and not “again”. which was actually intended as you can read in the respective thread in the German forum.
Just because it what intended doesn’t mean that I or other players like it though.

In the past “wider” probably would have been more okay, because the writing rules weren’t as much set in stone, so there could have been probably alternative spellings depending on the writer, the region and the time.
However nowadays we’ve got spelling rules, that are relatively binding (even if not as binding as was the Frenchies do in that matter), and the Duden clearly writes the “Wiedergänger” with an “e” and not without, similiar to the “wieder” in “wiederspiegeln” and not like the “wider” in “Widersacher”.
Yes, it is language-historically possible, but it is unusual, and if you use the modern spelling rules (because Duden) it looks “wrong”.

How i see it, German is a very constructional language, so people often put the words together and apart in their head when reading and understanding the meaning of the single components of the word (that’s what’s makes stuff like “Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän” relatively easy for us to read), that’s why they connect it more with the meaning of the (wider=against gänger=someone that walks/goes) than with the intended meaning (wieder=again gänger=someone that walks/goes), which is why I would have find it better when it was written “Wiedergänger” than “Wi_dergänger”.

I know about the fact that Wiedergänger is in the Duden but whenever i look at Wiedergänger and Widergänger, Wiedergänger feels totally wrong and Widergänger feels absolutely right to me when connecting both to the Afterlife.

Even the Wizards of the Coast chose Wiedergänger for their Revenant Cards, so it seems like me an A-Net are alone when it comes to the Wie against Wi debate.

I really want to create a Nightmare Sylvari Revenant because of the Pink/Black Theme of the Nightmare Weapons and the Red/Black Theme of the Revenant. But the Name i reserved fits more for a female Asura Revenant

Zyzyxa

I took Zyzyx’ Name and added an “a” to make it sound female. Since Zyzyx looks like an Asura without Arms, it fits perfectly.

Oreithyia.3064:

traslation is complicated. the same images aren’t used for the same phaenomenon in every language. In German it kind of fits, the “Schnitter” or “Sensenmann” (scythe man) is basically the same metaphora as the “Reaper”, but i suppose it is more difficult with the romanic languages.

the translation of “Revenant” had more people scratching their head though…because the translation of “wider” is “against” not “again” (which would be “wieder”).
So the translation of “Widergänger” would be “counterwalker” or “Contravenant”, which is in my opinion not a very fitting decription of what the class is about gameplaywise. With the other classes you know roughly what the class is about, when you just log on the first time and see their name (engineer->uses machines and tech, elementalist->using elements to attack, thief->using stealth attacks, guardian->protects, supports and guards, Necromancer-> uses necromancy etc.).
I know the German translation team did it, to add a play of words there…you know the Revenant going against all obstacles and stuff…buuuut it is kind of cheesy, in my opinion, and doesn’t do much to show the difference between the Revenant and the other classes…because the other classes go against all obstacles as well…so generally every class should be called “Widergänger”.
I wish they’d have sticked to the literal translation. I like puns but it’s not always the time to make one.

Widergänger is an actual word in the german language and describes “things” that come back from the Spirit Realm, or the Grave (“Wiedergänger” counts as the same but as far as i am concerned, “Widergänger” is the more common one here in Germany). Widergänger is often used as a substitute for Undead for example. Yes Revenants are not Zombies, but they come from the Mists (The Spirit Realm thematically) so Widergänger is a 100% fit to describe the Profession.

Kronos.2560:

I think overall need fix to

-Also ventari tablet protective solace works against things like weapons test fracal. (it might work vs catapults/trebs etc, just haven’t had chance to test it) I have no problem with this one but could be easily abused if true.

That is intended. Guardian Bubbles and Reflects and every other Reflect works against them aswell. Trebs and Cats wont be affected because their Projectiles are unblockable

I think we should have a Thread with all the Bugs concerning the Revenant.

• Upkeep Skills like the Whirling Hammers, Ventari Bubble or Mallyx Elite can not be use while you are at 50 Energie out of Combat. It works fine if you are in combat and constantly lose and gain Energy, but if you are out of combat, you can not use those Skills “You don’t have enough Profession specific Energy”

• Even though it is funny, Unyielding Anguish moves everything, even immovable Enemies like Old Tom in the Asura Fractal.

• (Maybe not a Bug) Revenant has only 1 Underwater Skill in this Beta (Bandage), that makes the Profession useless especially in the Underwater Fractal, unless you want to pretend to be the useless NPC that has to be escorted in several Missions since GW1.

• (Minor) You are not always at 50% Energy while out of combat. Sometimes it stops at 49 and sometimes it goes up to 51 and stays there

• If you steal from a Revenant you get Nothing, except the full Steal Cooldown

skowcia.8257:

NapTooN.6283:

skowcia.8257:

NapTooN.6283:

skowcia.8257:

Sagat.3285:

They won’t let it suck.

They just did. A class without stunbreaks wont survive in pvp long. Even necromancers are in better state when it comes to stunbreaks+damage mitigation via shroud, rev doesnt have even that.

So you are fine with the Necro using his Class Mechanic to break a Stun but if the Rev is the exact same, it is a “NoNo”? Wow, just Wow.

And obviously you dont even understand what im talking about. Doesnt matter in what pespective we put it in, DS act as a second hp bar for necro where they can tank damage. In case of revenant you dont have that luxury, you dont have access to protection, access to invuls, access to invis, access to blinds, acess to blocks, access to evades, you cant even disengage and to have any sort of mobility you have to camp Shiro.. In short youre pretty much a subpar warrior that has to take everything on chest. Revenant in team fights will be the first target to drop as he doesnt have any tools to defend himself at all. Necro with life force looks superior to him.

• Jalis has the Road for Stability and Protection on Disable if you trait for it, sure it is not the same as DS but it is still not nothing like you suggest.

• From your list of protection, access to invuls, access to invis, access to blinds, acess to blocks, access to evades, Necro only has Protection and Blinds himself, just like the Revenant at the Moment.

In case of necro its totally different to breakstun by entering ds as well. Not olny it provides also 1 stack of stability but it doesnt reset your energy. If it happen that your revenant will get stunned at 90% energy which you been saving up for a combo..tough luck, you have to swap and start over at 50%. Not olny you lose energy but you also lose the skills you was preparing to combo with. No class is punished that hard in this game yet. None.

• You can reach the same with Jalis. Go into his Traitline (which you would certainly do if you take him as your legend) and you get Stability on Dodge. Break the Stun with your Elite and cancel the Animation with a Dodge which gives you in return Stability. And doing a dodge after a stunbreak is a normal reaction and way more likely than sticking to the spot you were stunned at. The downside of 50 Energy Cost stays of course.

You also can use utility skills to stunbreak, as a revenant again you dont have that luxury, all you really you can do is a punishing legend swap mentioned above. Not to mention that reaper spec comes off with 70% uptime stability in sk and you dont even have to stay in sk to keep stability pulsing. How revenant looks in comprasion? If anyone thought necro was a pingpong class then wait for revenant. You see a real pingpong soon.

• Necro has more Stunbreaks, Revenant has better Access to Stability with Dodge and Jalis’ Road.

Better stability when you spam jalis road off cd and camping it that one legend.. What if i want to use ventari? Stab on dodge last 2,5sec olny, no big deal there to wait it out.

if you talk about that Stab on dodge is only 2,5sec don’t praise Stab on Shroud into the high heavens because it is only 0,5secs longer…

If you want to use Ventari you miss out on the Stab Road and still keep the Stab on Dodge if you want it. Simple as that.

skowcia.8257:

NapTooN.6283:

skowcia.8257:

Sagat.3285:

They won’t let it suck.

They just did. A class without stunbreaks wont survive in pvp long. Even necromancers are in better state when it comes to stunbreaks+damage mitigation via shroud, rev doesnt have even that.

So you are fine with the Necro using his Class Mechanic to break a Stun but if the Rev is the exact same, it is a “NoNo”? Wow, just Wow.

And obviously you dont even understand what im talking about. Doesnt matter in what pespective we put it in, DS act as a second hp bar for necro where they can tank damage. In case of revenant you dont have that luxury, you dont have access to protection, access to invuls, access to invis, access to blinds, acess to blocks, access to evades, you cant even disengage and to have any sort of mobility you have to camp Shiro.. In short youre pretty much a subpar warrior that has to take everything on chest. Revenant in team fights will be the first target to drop as he doesnt have any tools to defend himself at all. Necro with life force looks superior to him.

• Jalis has the Road for Stability and Protection on Disable if you trait for it, sure it is not the same as DS but it is still not nothing like you suggest.

• From your list of protection, access to invuls, access to invis, access to blinds, acess to blocks, access to evades, Necro only has Protection and Blinds himself, just like the Revenant at the Moment.

In case of necro its totally different to breakstun by entering ds as well. Not olny it provides also 1 stack of stability but it doesnt reset your energy. If it happen that your revenant will get stunned at 90% energy which you been saving up for a combo..tough luck, you have to swap and start over at 50%. Not olny you lose energy but you also lose the skills you was preparing to combo with. No class is punished that hard in this game yet. None.

• You can reach the same with Jalis. Go into his Traitline (which you would certainly do if you take him as your legend) and you get Stability on Dodge. Break the Stun with your Elite and cancel the Animation with a Dodge which gives you in return Stability. And doing a dodge after a stunbreak is a normal reaction and way more likely than sticking to the spot you were stunned at. The downside of 50 Energy Cost stays of course.

You also can use utility skills to stunbreak, as a revenant again you dont have that luxury, all you really you can do is a punishing legend swap mentioned above. Not to mention that reaper spec comes off with 70% uptime stability in sk and you dont even have to stay in sk to keep stability pulsing. How revenant looks in comprasion? If anyone thought necro was a pingpong class then wait for revenant. You see a real pingpong soon.

• Necro has more Stunbreaks, Revenant has better Access to Stability with Dodge and Jalis’ Road.

skowcia.8257:

NapTooN.6283:

Genesis.8572:

NapTooN.6283:

skowcia.8257:

Sagat.3285:

They won’t let it suck.

They just did. A class without stunbreaks wont survive in pvp long. Even necromancers are in better state when it comes to stunbreaks+damage mitigation via shroud, rev doesnt have even that.

So you are fine with the Necro using his Class Mechanic to break a Stun but if the Rev is the exact same, it is a “NoNo”? Wow, just Wow.

Even if the Necro does not trait for DS stunbreak, they have access to stunbreaks through a fair number of their utilities: Spectral Armor, Spectral Walk, Plague Signet, Well of Power, and the Flesh Wurm’s Necrotic Traversal.

What stunbreak options does a Revenant who does not trait for it have?

Only 1 right now and that might be a bit clunky and costly to use BUT still a Stunbreak on ZERO cooldown. Rite of the Great Dwarf is a Stunbreaker. “All” you have to do is spend 40 Energy and cancel the Animation so you are not rooted for ~3 seconds. The good Thing is that it has no CD, the downside is that it costs 40 Energy.

40 energy? I see, you dindt played in last beta. Cost is 50 energy now and you cant cancel it by weapon stow or interrupting it with another key. You have to dodge to break the animation. 3sec is an awful time in pvp where youre a sitting duck and that skill will be completely useless in pvp. Not even as a stunbreak, ppl simply wont use it at all. Too high risk, too high energy cost for too little reward. It used to reduce damage by 100% – basically endure pain but they nerfed it to 50% reduction instead and icnreased it cost. Legit

Nope, i checked the Wiki and it has still the old 40 Energy Cost, that is why i assumed it was still the same. I know that you can only cancel animations with Dodge, but that is no Problem in that regard because when you are stunned as any Profession, your first reaction after the stunbreak would be a dodge to not get hit by whatever the Enemy chained to his Stun (at least for me it is).

Genesis.8572:

NapTooN.6283:

skowcia.8257:

Sagat.3285:

They won’t let it suck.

They just did. A class without stunbreaks wont survive in pvp long. Even necromancers are in better state when it comes to stunbreaks+damage mitigation via shroud, rev doesnt have even that.

So you are fine with the Necro using his Class Mechanic to break a Stun but if the Rev is the exact same, it is a “NoNo”? Wow, just Wow.

Even if the Necro does not trait for DS stunbreak, they have access to stunbreaks through a fair number of their utilities: Spectral Armor, Spectral Walk, Plague Signet, Well of Power, and the Flesh Wurm’s Necrotic Traversal.

What stunbreak options does a Revenant who does not trait for it have?

Only 1 right now and that might be a bit clunky and costly to use BUT still a Stunbreak on ZERO cooldown. Rite of the Great Dwarf is a Stunbreaker. “All” you have to do is spend 40 Energy and cancel the Animation so you are not rooted for ~3 seconds. The good Thing is that it has no CD, the downside is that it costs 40 Energy.

I am pretty sure we will play with a Hard Copy of our Bank and Wallet. The Question is, WHEN the Copy will be created. I am going to put my Ascended Stuff into the Bank together with a Makeover Kit and 4 Bags. To be absolutely sure that it is a Copy, I will pick something from the Bank with my Rev and then immediately switch over to another Char to see if it is still in the Bank.

If it is still there I will put on my Ascended Stuff, 4 Bags, burn the Makeover Kit to pre-create my perfect Revenant for Launch (so the Creation goes faster then) and start doing Fractals with him somewhere between 1-30. Sure i can not keep what i earn with him, but that does not matter for me.

skowcia.8257:

Sagat.3285:

They won’t let it suck.

They just did. A class without stunbreaks wont survive in pvp long. Even necromancers are in better state when it comes to stunbreaks+damage mitigation via shroud, rev doesnt have even that.

So you are fine with the Necro using his Class Mechanic to break a Stun but if the Rev is the exact same, it is a “NoNo”? Wow, just Wow.

Aomine.5012:

whiteyzz.3067:

Yep I’m so salty, as a necro that my class has become an easy mode, hur durr run minions and unholy sanctuary. And now near invulnerable to condition damage with all the condition removal.

Imagine if every class had 14 second, 6.5k heals, went full tank and could do good DPS? If someone even goes condition damage against you, don’t have to run the signet anymore your minions and shrouds remove it all for you… don’t have to run a stun break to deal with getting stunned before you could pop your death shroud it’s all automatic.

Minions should scale off our power, full tank summons shouldn’t be as a good as a zerker summons. But I mean kitten running any other elite if you can be this bulky and deal so much damage… I’m still going to run lich form with +condition damage but honestly this right now is just as good as the engi’s who chuck glueshot and throw a quabillion grenades in your face.

Also when your match has 4 necromancers running the same build it’s kinda sad…. and then run into a match where it’s 3 necros running the same build then 2 then 3 then 4. I haven’t seen a non summoner necro in quite a bit.

That’s why I’m running Moa on my Engi. (96 CD only)
Elixir condition engi is quite nice XD.
Lots of cleanse, instant kill all minions and lots of sustain too

You can bring Moa down to 82s CD. HGH reduces the CD of Elixers by 20% and Mechanized Deployment the CD of Toolbelt Skills by 15%. Since Moa is an Elixer AND Toolbelt-Skill it should work. Works with the Revival Elixer aswell i have it on a 68s CD thanks to both traits. The Advantage of this is you can even take Kinetic Battery for an instant Moa Recharge after a Dodge.

Notsoperky.4291:

And don’t forget the revenant weekend this weekend, where pre purchasers can roll a revenant and play in wvw (I wonder how many upscaled revs will be ruining wvw that weekend..)

exactly 0 because Revs will be Auto 80 by Default after Creation

nekretaal.6485:

Honestly, curses and soul reaping are probably the Necromancer’s best two lines right now.

They don’t need to be majorly changed. Some of the traits need minor fixes but that’s it (parasitic contagions should work in death shroud for example).

As for your suggestions.

(1) Lingering curse can remain a condition damage buffing trait, but base scepter needs mainline buffs. It’s not a good weapon.

(2) Master of corruptions should not o anything with cooldowns [that makes it a boring trait tax] but instead should give some sort of buff to the skills

(3) I like the ferocity aura, I have a feeling the revenant could get that.

(4) Spectral mastery is good, as is right now. But, if it has to be tweaked. I would remove the cooldown & duration extension stuff [these are trait taxes] and do something like you’re doing. Right now it bothers me that the trait doesn’t do much for spectral pull (the other spectral skills get a duration increase).

Unless they changed it, Spectral Mastery increases the Chill Duration by 50% since Launch.

A Grasshopper Mouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xa-GSm1P0I

Talyn.3295:

I am very glad I hung onto all those usless boxes of ascended gear. Now if only there is a use for those 100+ ascended rings clogging my necro’s inventory…

May i ask why you hoard 100+ Rings? Are you Speculating on a Ring-Eater which gives you a Gift if you feed him an Ascended Ring?

If you are waiting on Stat-Changing for Rings, it would be enough to keep only a handful unless you really want to create 50 Chars.

skowcia.8257:

My problem is lower number of utility skills compared to old classes. Why on the earth rev has olny 12 utility skills and 15 with elite spec when old classes got 20+4 from elite? That makes absolutely 0 sense. On top of that basically 0 stunbreakers..

Racial skills are not something i care about tho.

Having a Stunbreaker is a decision you have to make yourself. If you want one, you have to pick Invocation. If you do you have a Stunbreak on a 10 second Cooldown (that is the CD for Legend Swap IIRC). The only Profession with a lower CD Stunbreaker is Necro with Traited Death Shroud and Foot in the Grave with 7 seconds.

Klonko.8341:

NapTooN.6283:

Klonko.8341:

But rune of the necromancer does stack with MoC and if the warthog forage a bone, you can put up to 8 sec ++ fear with it.

Fear is not Daze so how is Fear influenced by MoC? If it truly is and you are not trolling, it is a bug.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Boar-Pet-Moment-of-Clarity

And fear can also be affected by the +% condi duration

The Condi Duration is logical because Fear is a Condition. But increasing Fear Duration with a Daze Trait is not logical.

Klonko.8341:

But rune of the necromancer does stack with MoC and if the warthog forage a bone, you can put up to 8 sec ++ fear with it.

Fear is not Daze so how is Fear influenced by MoC? If it truly is and you are not trolling, it is a bug.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Rune of the Mesmer does not stack with MoC, since MoC already hits the 100% cap.

I thought the 100% cap is only for Conditions and since Daze is not a Condition… but i can live with that, since it felt kind of that way when i tested MoC with Mesmer Runes in the Mists.

I started leveling an Asura Ranger since my Sylvari Ranger can not use TB. In the end he will be using SB/GS with Storm Spirit and TB. The Rest is open/flexible

With MoC and Rune of the Mesmer, i have 2x 8 second Dazes, 1x 4 second Daze and 1x ~2,5 second Daze. On Top of that i Play with Pink + Black Moa for another 2 second Daze each.

CratZ.6270:

Blond bond? but my necro has black hair

Sorry, you can’t use the trait then, better get that makeover kit :-D

Matazeruz.7498:

I threw 100 euro at my screen and HoT ultimate version appeared

then they scammed you, they only took 99,99 € from me.

Crimson Clouds.4853:

Now, let’s not make it too big…

Reminds me of the awesome April Fools Day 2010 in Guild Wars 1
• Player characters changed to miniature size; miniatures changed to player size
I just entered Spamadan and saw Shiro, The Lich, Kunavaang, several Mursaat, Adelbern, Ruric etc. running around. At first I did not know how that was possible until I noticed that all the players were missing and just running around in Mini Size while their Minipets were the Giants.