Guild Wars 2

a few hundred actually. Makes a nice little profit for me.

Welcome to my world.
This has been happening since before Nov 15. In the open world environment. You guys who have been running dungeons have been getting rewarded far and above what open world people have been for well over 3 months.

Please stop complaining you have had it well for a lot longer than I have.
OR keep complaining non stop.
Doesnt matter cause it is only going to get worse for you as that is what happened with me.

Depends on what the driving motivation would be. GW2 is based on a reward system so the entire system/game would need to change in order for me find motivation beyond that now.
There is the guild aspect as well.
If they pulled it and replaced it with nothing then not a chance.

Yes they are:
They show how much gold you have spent and/or bought of the TP.
Or The luck achievement.
I think the particle effects should be gold coins splashing off the characters as they walk.

They have no symbolic nature like skill,determination, tenacity,or even epic adventure- just you got lucky or spent rl money on it.

Knox.3748:

I hope i never play with this kids who cry all day because they wont get Sunrise when they log in

No 3 months in a row I have all but completed the monthlies save 1 aspect frac/dungeon.
I am left out now 3 in a row cause I hate dungeons. Ya that is great and fair. Here is an idea – mix up the monthly.

And again no about the legendary.
It is about the RNG of it and people putting in over 600+gold into the mystic toilet for a precursor with nothing in return. Or buying eternity off the TP. Truly legendary and an epic journey.

I hope I never group with people who dont think critically or even use a brain and have fallacies and straw men.

I hate it myself. Back to back to back monthlies that re dungeon focused and that I will not receive any reward for doing all but that 1 aspect of it.
I am so sick so the push to dungeons in this game it is crazy.
Why even bother with other content since you dont want people to play it and just keep pushing dungeons. It is very obvious what Anet wants now.

Stand in LA and Yell LFG. That is what they want for this game and nothing else.

I have not noticed anything different except save the one pull mechanic the orrians use to throw at you and pull you.
The arena had 2 pillars but that is it for what I have seen.

I am so sick of the dungeon push of this game it is unbelievable. Didnt do fracs so no reward. Wont do dungeons either so no monthly reward again this month.
This just great – play ANETS dungeon grinder game or dont play at all.

Why bother with making other content if that is all you want people to do?
I dont get it.
How about not forcing people to do dungeon content cause they well DONT LIKE IT.
stop making monthlies back to back to back about this please.

You are lucky to make 2-3/day if that.
Even now they “increased drops” lol ya right in the open world it is still horrifically bad and a plinx run will net you maybe a gold per hour if that.
Dungeons still a better way to go.

It is incredibly disheartening to see this and that there is no justification for it whatsoever.
the gold flushed down the mystic toilet is truly epic.
In one spin you get rich or die trying truly horrible mechanic for what is the most epic of weapons.

I am really happy people find that fun but I dont. I would however very like to see
the #’s and breakdown if you please and how you arrived at your conclusion.

I sure as hell dont find it fun having to spend countless hours setting up the TP and trades/speculating instead of doing things like well um play the game.

Not rewarding players and forcing them to do things they hate in order to survive is really smart.

betrayal
ascend gear,dr,loot nerfs,the grind

great guild tho

150 g for me and stopped feeding the mystic toilet now.

BlackestKnight.1278:

LordByron.8369:

please don t say legendary weapons are cosmetic

They are BEST in SLOT so basically they are the best tier.

Legendaries are not more BiS than my Exotic. In fact, no legendaries has stats that come close to my exotic weapons.

It’s just a skin.

No, no it isnt.
Check out Lindsey Murdocks post.
It will always be upgraded to BIS no matter what is released. This was a response to ascend gear. Where when the patch launched the legendaries had a bump in stats.
They are very much far more than a skin. They are grind proof BIS weapons that will continue to be bumped in perpetuity to match whatever new gear tier is invoked.

Your exotics will only last a little while longer when ascend weapons come out but Legendaries will be auto bumped and to whatever else comes after it.
A grind proof advantage over anyone else so you can focus on other things when that happens. A nice perk beyond a skin.

That is right put more stuff fractals especially those of us who hate them and see it as a design failure with ascend gear.

What I need is horizontal progress and much better design.

roostapro.9827:

Rifle that shoots rainbow pooping cats please!

I can live with that get r done.
I also cant use a rifle lol

I feel bad for dreamer peeps that was nasty before but now it is just ugh bad bad bad.
I think I will wait a long long time before I decide to get a legendary since they bork it every time without the way to bypass the TP manipulators and RNG.

it is a kitten shame they keep trying to force us to buy gems in order to feed the manipulators at the TP. (hint same people)

Making a gaming population nets you gems as a reward as players are happy and willing to give you money.
DR and nerfed drops make players feel you are reaching into their pockets. Makes people feel stingy and dont buy gems.

Stop being stingy lighten up the loot tables and reap rewards. If not you get what you get now. constant criticism on the forums about you driving players to buy gems.

You could be just like the 90% of the rest of the population and leave for good.
The choice is yours pay or not.

But they did announce it 2 + weeks in advance and frankly you can still play the game – albeit not at a great level.

papryk.6273:

I hope we won’t have to wait a month like in the other loot thread to get an answer…. -_-

No no just 2 months that last one was speedy.
Making changes and not saying how is bad bad design.

yes you have to be an exploiter to get ahead in this game. You can thank DR for that and Anet for not giving the ban hammer when needed to the crying cheaters.
That is how it is. Random luck or Exploit to get your precursor.
It has nothing to do with how skillful you are or how dedicated you are or even some epic long quest you did.

No it is because you have deep pockets or rng luck. Bad design is bad design.
What materials are getting cheaper lol do you play the game – inflation is driving the price up like crazy and the manipulators keep pushing the price of a pre higher.

Pull ascend gear asap.- No treadmill
remove dr and all effects
institute full HP and no VP
make precursors not RNG
redo the gem shop with things people want
redo the economy to remove manipulators and pre/legend
Give love to WvW and redo that area.
bring in some people to work on Spvp and to a level needed.

it goes on and on there is so much wrong and so bad that it would take a very very long time fix this game to the way it should have been.

Quick start. Roll back to Nov 15 and remove all DR – that would be a kitten good start.

actually they arent that bad and in fact before Nov 15 were very tame and respectful.

But I mean what do you expect? you hype the game for years around certain design choices and then thrown them under the bus in under 2 months. You loose the vast majority of you player population faster than tor.
Every decision that has been made has forced the player to the gem shop unless they are the chosen dungeon runners who have everything handed to them.
So colour me bad but what do you expect when you sell out throw out your founding principles and turn this into a grinder that the Koreans cant stand?
If all that sucks they then institute DR and loot table changes to force you to get gems or exploit your butt off to make money.
Play their way or be poor and have fun.
Dont like it no sir dont like it all.

Maybe like Bioware when it is all said and done they will look back and say you know what maybe we should have listened to what they wanted and held true to our design choices.
But when you take a great game and destroy it fast you expect roses? Your going to get flack and lots of it.

If my mom wrote it it would be a hell of a lot nastier believe me. I am tame compared to her tongue.

It is a shame what we ended up with isnt it. Had they stuck to their principles I think this game would have been 10X better and probably supported financially a lot more.

Happy consumers would be willing to spend money in the cash shop to reward the dev for doing good and making an enjoyable experience.
Instead we have an enormous grinder with loot drops that are horrific meant to keep the players going to the gems ->gold.
So people are begrudging and seeing it as an attempt to pick their pocket instead of freely rewarding them for doing good.
I honestly thought the revenue could have been so substantial that it would rival the biggies. Instead we now have a player pop that is in the toilet -bad retention and every decision made seems to shrink the player base even further.

sorry to tell you this but they have been telling you how to play since Nov 15.
They even doubled down on that when they buffed the loot in fractals and nerfed open world 3 times. RIght 3 times and countless nerfs to events all the while buffing 1 dungeon.
Play their way and be well off gold wise as well or play the way you want and be destitute and unable to afford to waypoint.
Been this way for a while now.
Dont see why you have concern now?

Great more ill thought out designs and broken mechanics.
Play the way they want or dont play at all – I get it I get it now thanks anet.
Think I may just do that.

Thanks for adding more grind to a we dont make grindy games.
Well done well done.

And what happen to bringing people back to the events lol.
Are the devs even reading the forums/playing anymore or are they like Bioware on their personal servers now without DR?

when games where games and manifesto where to design by.

Oh how I wish they stayed true to that what a game it could have been.
Welp off to elder scrolls lol.

I have mine already you havent started?
but man have you seen the grind for the pendant holy cow that is hellish to say the least.
1 down 174 to go……..

it was just an excuse people could use to exploit gathering
it wont be used for its intended purpose – you are correct there.

I dont need a reason to screw ascend gear it is already crap and killed this game.
But von snuffles that is a reason to log in alone.

i expect some sploiting and some bans and a lot of qq

Yes the game is all but dead. There should be a population to be with at all times to do stuff with. That is the point of an mmo regardless of time or location you are to the server. If there arent people to play with you dont play – unlike the grocery store which is there to sell you stuff and why walmart is open 24 hours.

The population is about 350-375000 right now down from 3 million. what are they going to say? Well we killed the game faster than Tor with our decisions. No you spin it to fastest selling mmo – called slight of hand.
Better still have more than we expected well ya you expected 25000 people well done.
Once again so you expect them to tell the truth? Up till the last hour before Tor announced it lost over a million Subs Devs stated there was not a loss in subs.

I was on maguuma sorry but outside of 7-11pm dead. 2 people doing plinx and SpvP all but dead. The only reason people saw qs is cause they are in top two tiers so they are fibbing.
The game is in serious trouble and with a loss of retention worse than tor they need to get things together fast.
I wish them luck but when my guild spent the entire weekend talking about elder scrolls I think there is a huge issue with GW2 and its population.

ATTHWSM.7840:

Goettel.4389:

As long as it doesn’t raise the level-cap, I’d definitely buy any expansion, since I’m still having a blast 500 hours in. To be honest, it feels like the game is just starting to gain momentum and we haven’t seen the best of it yet.

Exactly the kind of player thats going to kill this game lol.

No it was people like YOU who killed this game Nov 15th.

Not a chance.
Anet proven to me that they dont value me or my time compared to others so they get bubkis.
When they learn to treat everyone equal value everyone and revisit their manifesto and prelaunch materials I may.

Until then FORGET IT

It just saddens me when I see them. I mean it doesnt represent skill or dedication to the game. It doesnt represent some epic quest or thing you did.

All it shows is you have deep pockets or got RNG lucky. I see them and go Meh buy more gems?
I do wish they were a reflection of the prestige they were to hold but they arent. They are just another sellout item without consequence.

credibility and competency is at the heart of it for me. I remember when they said there was 5 pages of fixes/nerfs for the ranger alone. Didnt happen.
Or how they force into cheese builds by removing some of the more fun builds and your stuck with what they want you to play. Think thief backstab issue.

Every new round of nerfs seems to break more things than they fix and most of the time leave you saying eh?
It limits your options and combine that with how much it costs resource wise for ascend gear you are stuck at 1 build.
Stuck with a monotonous build leads to stagnation. So so called balance and VP cause a significant loss in variation of play.
Sad Panda.

I disagree that they werent rare enough. They were just fine and acquiring them was perfect because it let have options and choice.
You get them somewhat quickly but could have multiple sets for different builds. Now you have 1 build with ascend that is it. Poor and horrible design.

It also gave people who had alts the ability to gear up at a hard but decent rate. Now you pick 1 toon and that is it. poor and horrible design.

With that plateau it let you chase after the more exotic of the exotic (named ones) or legendary. But now you need to use resources from that chase for ascend gear.
Again Poor and horrible design.

So for me ascend is nothing but poor and horrible design that has crippled this game for no reason and we lost 35% of the player population so that 1% of the population can have a +1. (who them promptly left and went back to wow)
Again Poor and horrible design implemented without thought or understanding of the consequences.

what I would like to see is anet treat everyone as an equal and have equal rewards. You know value me and my time. Allow me to play the way I want to and have fun.

What we have now is 1 group getting a hell of a lot more than any other for no reason at all. Fractal dungeon runners make 10X the amount everyone else does.

You either play the way anet wants – doing dungeons till only your bones are left on your fingers or you buy gems →gold. Otherwise you are poor.
That tells me I am not valued nor is my time so they dont get any money from me and I use their resources.
I think they should value everyones time equally WvW/PvE/PvP all rewarded the same but it isnt and has led to a mass exodus of people.
Play how they want to =gold. Play how you want=0 loot.
That is terribly terribly wrong.

Zogyark.4597:

Vol.5241:

Zogyark.4597:

I dont think weapons will have agony resist, if anything they’ll have some sort of ascended damage that will be required for certain encounters or/and mobs.

Not going to happen. Imagine the outcry if they implemented that? You’d have parties requiring legendaries only.

you mean requiring ascended weapons, which we already have with agony resist after certain fotm levels. they already had an outcry regarding vertical progression they can have another one, we already know they made up their minds regarding that and people just eventually dealt with it.

Besides it doesn’t make sense to add agony resist to weapons.

Ya the 35% population that left because of that had no effect at all. Great way to deal with it.
Anet stated they will always be bis with agony resistance so I suspect it will be baked in or can be added. If not keeping with their track record expect an epic grind to retrieve some new legendary transmutation device that is available for a small one time gem charge of 800 gems.

should have taken the refund

They could care less about the impact on us. But impact on them and their precious image now that we cant have.
Here is a hint – You have thrown your pre release info under the bus and your founding vision out the door in under 2 months and sold out. What is there to worry about now.
Do the right thing and fix the game and economy and your image will fix itself.

Zadira.2189:

I know exactly what Revolution is talking about. I have spent hour after hour after hour fighting creatures in Orr and in other higher up areas and can’t seem to get enough crafting materials to level my Leatherworker.

It is getting so tiresome! I don’t think we should have to buy our crafting materials if we are actually playing the game.

I am awful at WvW and the dungeons. Those are just facts. LOL What I enjoy about the game is exploring and doing the events and helping to save the land.

I think if we are an average explorer and enjoy doing that in this game we should not find it difficult to find enough Intricate Totems, Large Scales, Large Fangs, Vials of Potent Blood, and Potent Venom Sacs to be able to do what we need to level.

I have tons of the harvesting stuff but after I kill 18 Skelks I should have at least something to show for it. Ice Imps, Skelks, Grawls Oh MY!!! Hours and hours of kills but very few sparkles for my trouble and this is while using the Omnomm Berries for Magic Find.

Is this a bug that we should be reporting?

I know that every single time anyone complains about the drops on this forum they get flamed and made to feel ashamed.

Maybe if we all report and make it more clear what the problems are, someone might take us seriously and fix what is broken about the game so we can play it and have fun while doing so.

They are aware of the problem and dont care. Or they say it is your imagination. the fact is unless you run fractals 24/7 you will be poor or have to buy gems. Play the game the way they want or be poor or dont play at all.

As for the population it is about 400,000 daily players. They sold a lot of copies but the retention rate has been so poor it makes tor look good.

This is about playing the game the way we want to not how you or someone else and been treated to an equal amount of reward. WvWrs get a significant short end of the stick moreso than the rest.

So by forcing me to do content I wont do means I leave. Another one gone. How long till there is 1 server of dungeon runners left?

I do that in the daily and then go back to Orr.
At this point I dont care what they do.
All I want is LOOT to be on par with FRACTALS. It isnt and that is wrong very very wrong.
The game is almost dead anyways but forcing players to do things against their will just to make gold or buy gems isnt the way to go. Treating 1 player better than another is what is killing this game fast. Reread your manifesto and pre release marketing material and return to what was promised.

LinkR.6190:

Levetty.1279:

Because ADD people think the only new content that are worth playing in MMOs is obscene grinds for +1 gear so you can fight the new plus +1 monsters.

Somehow to them that +1 makes it new and interesting.

There is nothing wrong with Anet wanting to provide something for everyone. Give people a carrot if they really want it. The problem with GW2 at launch (and this is just a theory of mine) is that they wanted to ween players off the treadmill in order to provide a more unique experience. The only problem is that their method of “weening” was going cold turkey. It was a shock to the system for a lot of MMO veterans and honestly I can’t blame them. You can’t expect a rat in a lab to respond positively to new circumstances without any kind of indoctrination. Thankfully, I think people are for the most part getting over their old convictions. At least, the ones that were willing to put up with it a little longer instead of just jumping back to WoW’s more “fulfilling” gameplay. (not bashing WoW, I just feel it kind of manipulates you into playing for the sake of playing and not because you are having fun)

You are correct most of them have weened off by leaving 3/4s of the population has left the game.Ascend gear was a lazy short mechanic that backfired in their face and they paid for it. Players also did cause the server worlds died.
Had Anet stuck to their promises and decidided to what was best for the game it would have been Superior and a very health game right now. What we have now is a game without direction and an economy ruled by a few. PvP/WvW/PvE all dead except between 6-11pm at night this is an mmo and should be going 24-7.

They always let them keep the ill gotten goods. from karma/godskull/araha and beyond.
Notice when they ban people it is only 200* that is the magic number. It makes it look like they are actually doing something but they arent.
They let the economy be dominated from the start by their friends and wont ban them.
So now we are stuck – 25 people have 95% of the TP wealth that is how it is until Anet decides it has had enough. But they wont hurt their friends so it wont happen. + they wont give up the opportunity to sell gems for those astronomical prices even if it means losing players like it has been.
Your recourse is to fight against them and avoid the Legendary market or Join them that is all there is to it.
And yes exploit is pays off.

Balance the game properly and the buyers and sellers would be gone. No need to ban anyone.

Prices dropping like crazy. I dont think this was intended at all and would be weary of it myself.Anet loves the high price of the t6 mats so that it can force people to buy gems if they want to end the grind or get through bad content. With cheaper mats ect this nullifies that notion.
I fully expect a fix to be implemented soon to bring Ori price back up to the 3s range again like it was working at before.

Alf.9137:

O/P – No,, Please, NO.. NO.. Just, No, thank you very much.

DPS Meters bring in elitist game-play, ignore those who support or revive their fellows and generally take the game in completely the wrong direction. I’m sure many of us have seen how DPS meters (and the thousands of other mods & addons) in other games changed those games and look where we are now.

We don’t need such tools to tell us how to play or whether someone is doing “enough” Damage Per Second.. This game should break away from such things and move towards the collaborative, communal & ground-breakingly creative game it has so much potential to be.

No DPS meters, please!

That has already been made clear about the elitists. That is who anet wants to play the game. Why else would they add gated gear grind with VP in a dungeon? That is for total elitists. These are their preferred players. Also that dungeon has the best loot drops as well to reward them. Open world is 0 loot.
No elitists have been here for a while now and who anet want in this game.
I personally like DPS meters and would very much welcome one to improve my efficiency in game. I think it will help me make a killing on the TP.

Some of it is projecting – a gamble on what will sell next. I do think just holding onto gold isnt the best thing. Always be on the lookout and put the money to use.
Another strat is when you think a bot ban is coming stock up and sell right after the spike peaks (24-36hrs). Minimize risk and understand that there are people and tactics used to peak certain markets as well.
I got caught a couple of times on bubbles myself. I am also new to the TP. Only started around Dec.
I have pages and pages of spreadsheets that track my purch and sales and profit. It gives me a good idea of inventory and speed at which items sell and ways to increase profit.
Good Luck.