Guild Wars 2

Why not? This is just like every other mmo out there and no different but i would say check or suggest it first before recommending it.

The only time legendaries were more powerful was when they made the mistake in the patch and they were increased to ascend level. Only for a few hours they were reverted back.

The point to horizontal progression was not better stats but better cosmetics. They were always the same stats as exotics and that hasnt changed.

When Ascend weapons are released they will get bumped up to BiS. That is why they are now mandatory. Because of the new implementation they will always be BiS and will be perpetually raised so you dont keep grinding this one thing.

You see the fractals arent a grind they are fun and dont count.
They pss on you shoe and tell you its raining.

It is a shame but I think they did it on their own.Money/success does strange things to people.
I wish you the best as I am right behind you.

As Chris stated in the AMA this is now WOW Lite so if that is what you want then stay.

But if you want they originally promised – horizontal progression and no grinding -all player equal -then yes get your refund.

Otherwise keep asking for stuff like the trinity,mounts,dueling,loot rolls ect cause they are more than happy to accommodate you.

Hope that helps your decision.
I think it is low class to switch a product you explicitly sold me on than say you didnt switch it.
See if people are held accountable they tend to not keep doing things like scamming.

Great now i can get my refund.

Lol NC Soft can tell anet to whatever NC Soft wants and they must obey. As stated above and also they are the money people. They can and do have direct say in how this game progresses. Nexon owns 15% of NC Soft and can tell NC Soft what to do as they have the voting power to do so.

Just because up till now they have been hands off doesnt mean they are now.
Also why do you think EA is such a horrible publisher – because it directly meddles in the companies it owns – the game studios forcing their will to be done.

Yes the pvp devs stated that there are 2 main devs working on balance and that is all.
Search ….

It will be very interesting to see what this game looks like in a while. How many tiers of new gear will there be? How many more agony dungeons are going to be there. How split the community will be.
Will GW2 even be here?
I hope it survives but wonder what it will look like nothing like it is now I think.

I would like to see a harpy added as a class. You have the mobility of flying so it is much faster like a mount. Not to mention all the trash talking in such a squealing voice. You could annoy everyone.

It is a shame that they have this wonderful dynamic world but yet decided to funnel everyone to the city and into the dungeon and only the dungeon.

There have been many great suggestions posted about ways to combat this and adding content but Anet chose this auspicious way and I dont no why.

It was poorly implemented and fragments the community because you need a specific level and not even a range (ie 1-5)limiting your options.
Even if you like this change the RNG mechanic and the DC stuff make doing the dungeon a pita.
Now if you hate dungeons but need good loot or mats your stuck that is where they are. It just seems sad really.

I use to play 6+ hours per day and spend extra $ in shop. But according to anet I am not the preferred dedicated player. Those are the elite dungeon grinders who chase stats and gated content.
I am amazed that a corporation says no we dont want you or your money just these players.Why else release that content like that?
So I have taken myself and my money else where and a competitor has benefited to the tune of $200 in their shop and stopped a friend from getting this game because of anet willingness to change direction on a whim.

I hope it works out for them but saying we dont want you is kinda funny since the goal was to make money.

jalmari.3906:

Fuz.5621:

I’d say remove ascended gear and infusions altogether.

this

I agree pull it from the game

Anet manufactured the gap to appeal to the most dedicated and preferred player. These leet grinders who Anet wants above all else and will cater to them whatever the cost.
There was no gap before and had Anet been ready for those who said there was nothing to do (treadmill) with suggestions or stating that they didnt want to go down that route maybe things might be different.
All they are doing now is pushing more and more grind and dividing the community
with the frac level stuff and only 1 viable way to obtain t6 mats.It will take incredibly longer to get the new gear and legendary and that is what they want.

I dont like it and already got a friend to not purchase this game. He asked me about it because of the sale and told him the truth about Anets 180 turn and he skipped buying it.

Syktek.7912:

I don’t see a problem with this. One use per item.

Also, these forums are filled with cynical brats who complain about everything. Just saying.

You didnt even read the op. Stop posting.

It is sad when they come up with ideas to keep you grinding more. They pushed for cosmetic skins but punish you when you use it for something you like.

Really bad design that forge doesnt recognize it. I doubt it is a bug -just another added level to the grind.
Post in the bugs forum but I wouldnt use transmutation stones again.

matenzo.9518:

How true are the following statements for you on a scale of 0 to 5?

1) I felt like I had little to do once my main character hit level 80, I got full exotic gear and 100% world completion. By the time of the patch my enthusiasm for the game had already lost a lot of momentum and I was really looking forward to new content.

2) Obtaining ascended gear gives me something new to aim for and boosts/refreshes my enthusiasm for GW2.

3)The lack of a tier after exotic is something that always bothered me. I feel that equipping my toon with better and better gear is something I look forward to in a game and that element was missing from GW2.

4) I believe that future paid expansion packs should introduce new tiers of gear.

5) In my wishlist of things to come for GW2 three months after its release (new areas/foes/weapons/events/skills, fixing bugs, tweaking class balance, anything at all) the introduction of a tier slightly better than exotic ranked pretty high.

1)0 still had tons to do and see – didnt need new content for me

2)0 I had just got my exotics on my 2nd toon and was looking forward to playing how I wanted -not forced into playing something I dont want to do for gear that is need to remain competitive in PVE/WVW

3)0 That was what legendary was for plus I had expected new content would have had new skins to chase after not stats.

4)0 just new skins and mechanics/titles

5)0 I wont run a treadmill and do content I dont want to do.

I really like the asuran animations myself. I just find them amusing to watch and those floppy ears bopping up and down.
I have given a few prof a try and like the thief the best

I wish many a time I had made an asuran thief instead of a human. Nothing worn with human but I just like the asuran.
Norns just blot out the sun.

They are and it is already in game because the legendary items had the stats boosted to ascend levels when the patch on the 15th went live.
I believe I saw data mines for the other possible ascend stuff on redit but could be wrong.
They wouldnt start down this path if it wasnt ready. This wasnt a hasty choice it was deliberate and took time to implement.
You always start small in something like this cause it is less likely to provoke a reaction instead of releasing say weapons as the first thing.Back slots ect are meaningless compared to armour and weapons and would cause less blow-back from community.
my 2cp.

Really?
They specifically stated that ascend may not be the last tier. (that means more tiers)
Infusions will be introduced often (rare-exotic) and increase in stats as per Lindseys posts.
This is only the start.

I would expect level cap for maybe the expansion but who knows now.

I agree fix what we have now and hold the other stuff. But the dedicated preferred player will complain that there is nothing to do and will leave. That is the whole reason this was instituted in the first place.

I understand why it was done but did anet need to put on giant red notices every 10ft or something that this game isnt about gear grind-tiered gear and gated content?

Did there need to be a questionnaire filled out before they could buy the game and say like nope you want a different game cant buy this.I dont know.

The only grind for me was going after the legendary if I chose to but that was optional since it didnt have better stats. It is now mandatory because they will continue to bump stats up in perpetuity as new gear tiers released.

So yes GW2 is dead -long live GW2.1 viva la revolution
It seems that people love the new dungeon and stat boost along with the grind and for the longevity of the game and those involved it looks like the right way forward.

Try and try again,
Great stuff.

I use to enjoy going to the highest spots (vistas) and jumping off – yes I die and no it isnt the fall it is the sudden stop that gets me. Found it amusing and no armour repair.

It is totally understandable. They made the choice that the most dedicated and preferred players are the uber hardcore leet grinders. Anyone else isnt wanted. why else would the new content be pushed a treadmill dungeon.
The fact that your family supported this game/gem shop is amazing and like you I am very disappointed.
I hope things work out for you.

So anet is a who—-?

It doesnt matter if it is 1% it is the precedent it sets. They can simply scale the content for 10000000% increase that is irrelevant.
For me this is about the gear,grind,mill and gate.

People seem to be enjoying this and that is fantastic and I wish them all well with the direction of the game.

I believe infusions are the treadmill as they will continue to be released and get more powerful – see the blog post. It also creates the gate to keep scrubs out.

I also believe that every month will be a release of equip/slot and every 6 months a new tier. So in 3months the 1st release becomes available to the non preferred dedicated player.That way the uber hardcore have the ability to show off and use the advantage and just as the sheep see that it will be released.
They must provide a significant advantage over exotic gear otherwise the leet gamer wouldnt grind for it. They are after the gear gap and gated content.Power and the ability to show it is what one of the motivations here.

Rinse repeat treadmill- everyone happy.

I have been advocating this since launch. I would have preferred a working class and game before moving on to other content.
I found that if you show off the content via trial ect you get more purchases when the content is polished and working well.
Better communication and much better cash shop development is something I would add in there as well.

However they dont care and wont listen so it doesnt matter.

Game Designer
AndrewMcLeod

This is something that existed prior to ascended gear, and was something that we saw happen all the time in GW1, even without any sort of gear progression. Some players, typically people who play the game a lot, tend to only want to play with other players that play like them. They require some sort of proof to get into their party, whether it be displaying your Lightbringer Title, equipping or linking some type of gear, or using some other method of showing that you have already done and are experienced with the content. While ascended gear might be the new excuse, this behavior happens regardless.

While this is not really something that we want to encourage, players do have the choice to play the game in the way they want. We can’t force those players to be all-inclusive in who they invite to the parties they create, and to be honest, doing so would probably make people even more unhappy than they are now, and lead to a lot of undesirable behavior.

That is the quote.
DO anet have an exit strategy at this point?

Not in the least. I am not playing the game anymore so I dont care.
However making loot that is worth 300 gold drop based on an RNG is not good. It is not a good mechanic and creates a massive disparity mainly because they have nerfed every other form of attaining wealth.

I would have been upset had I been trying to get a precursor over the last few months spending enormous sums of wealth and material to forge into the pre and failing.

For a level 5 at an event to be given something like this seems just a little out of whack and counter intuitive since they have done everything to stifle any means of attaining wealth.

When can the most dedicated and preferred players expect the release of new gear and new tier? Every Month (gear)/6months(tier)?
Will it always be in a dungeon with an “agony” type mechanic?
What kind of stat increases are we looking at for the tier after ascend?
Thanks for taking the time to do this.

Very good read. I hope the devs take it to heart and understand why it was written.

That is based on speculation.
It depends on how you see things. Did they throw out the manifesto?
Tier gear and gated content.
Yes Nexon owns 15% voting shares of NC Soft in part publishes Anet who produces GW2.
Beyond that we just dont know the influence one has over the other.
It is safe to say they are without doubt making significant altering choices in the vision and direction of the game. The rest is up to you to decide and your critical thinking.

I will say this I played the game every day for 6+hours and on the 15th I stopped.

I really found them amazing myself and very well done. Funny to just watch or jump.
If I ever come back I will make one again had an 80 engineer (full exotic) 80 thief (full exotic) .
Fantastic creations without doubt. While running my human thief I kept asking why didnt I make an asuran? That is how good I found it.

Southern Lord.7254:

I think that people who didn’t expect new items / weapons to be introduced into an MMO is delusional.

If you were expecting to play the game for 5+ years, I would be bored stiff after having the same items for 4 1/2 of those years.

Besides, Anet has already said the new gear will be aquired via different means – gamers nowadays are jumping on another bandwagon of hate.

People say they don’t believe in “Gamer Entitlement”, but looking on ANY game forums nowadays it’s hard not to notice it.

I have no issue with the introduction of the skins or weapons it is the stats, gated content and treadmill associated with those items that are the issue. How about making them available in other ways than a dungeon.

You honestly think they wouldnt create new awesome skins that have the same stat level or titles and extra to chase after? Agony without the stats ect.
Horizontal progression doesnt equal stale bad content – vertical progression does tho.

Wow that is sad.

There is no issue so there is nothing to respond to. D all the way.
Sad to say that is what I expect to see and hear.

It is clear to me they feel they have addressed the issue and nothing more needs to be done. What you and I and others believe well that, that is another story.

Yes this is one issue people are dealing with right now and I agree. There is one way to get this gear or be locked out of future content. All current content is null and void cause you need the new gear – world slowly dies.
This is vertical progression and will continue and get much worse as people separate themselves by levels and start the leet uber stuff.

They cant release the same stuff elsewhere cause there would be no reason to grind and the preferred player leaves. They need the extra stats to be better and have an advantage.

I wish you luck in this endevour.

You have your bias as others have thiers.
If you actually read the statement and compare to what is implemented you would realize that it is actually full of absolute contradictions.

Did you ever stop to realize that if there are that many people complaining that maybe, just maybe there is an issue.

I dont care if you like it or not. It wont go away so get use to it. And complaining about the complaints isnt helping either.

Simply saying everything is perfect and nothing is wrong will get no one anywhere and will kill this game faster than tor.

I dont share everyone’s viewpoint on most issues in game but they bought it and have a right to have that say. This is the venue for that. If you cant handle that I would suggest you not frequent the forums.
PS If they gave an actual answer to the issue then people would lay off.

mcwurth.2081:

Robbyx.1284:

Respect is earned, not given…they completely misled their customers, and their apparent lack of concern over players real concerns isnt helping….they deserve neither my respect nor my money.

misleading their costumers? not at all. They gave the vocal community what they asked for and still it is not good enough. they do try. if you are so displeased please uninstall and go cry in a corner.

Yes they have mislead their customers. Lol this is the problem today no accountability.
Like a good consumer you take crap products and enjoy them – good for you-
I like to get what was promised – I hold people and corporation responsible for their actions. Good and bad.Reward those that are good and make sure those that are bad are know about.

Telling people to leave doesnt work and is wrong- look at Tor
This will cause negative impact on the game and in turn your game play but since you are myopic you should uninstall as well. See how that works LOL.

They are OP and much better – otherwise why would people grind hour on end to get them?
They will unbalance WvW in a little while as well as now they are starting to make their way more and more to the players now.

As seen new content has displaced all other content because you need this to continue. They next release dungeon will require these items in order to obtain the next release – gating all content from those that cant keep up and making those that do much more powerful than people who cant.
Good luck out there.

Dont forget the infusions add extra stats as well it has been shown anywhere between 20-40% increase over exotic in a full set.

I agree address the issues and put it to rest.
But there is no issue to anet so there is nothing to address or say.

All well and dandy but dont sell your product under those conditions. Sell it under the new and improved banner not the predecessor.
Change the name then and differentiate it from the first. If you promote it one way stay true otherwise you look hypocritical to your audience.

They havent stated when and how it will be released. The only way is in dungeon atm.
Now if you go by speculation then there is no way they would release the 1st slots until the 2 or 3rd slots/releases have been made available.
That way the grinders are given the credit of having it – showing it off and the advantage in WvW.
Then they release the 1slots to the non uber grinders so they dont complain and fall behind too much.
1st slots have been released when they release the next slots is unknown.

It is region locked so check out the admin questions or accounts sub. You can always send a question under support as well.

We just got it and I hope you like the answers. No problems a few hiccups with the live events but everything is wonderful and perfect.
We hold a vested interest in this game and its company via the Gem shop. That is our investment.We like to see returns – when people see deviations from that they get upset and worried.
when told like today there is no problem so go away – It may get worse.
I would at least have respect if he did come out and say ya I sold out eat it. see that little red x in the corner use it. – I would say great I understand the motivation.

Working as intended.
Best loot and progression 1 spot.
I feel for those who hate dungeons like me.

Naked run thru Orr would be fumy. Well besides the bots that is lol.

Darn didnt take long to go bad.
What a shame – soon now as the gear is attained it is going to get nasty very nasty.
I wish you all luck.
There is no issue and everything is fine.

Logun.2349:

Ditton.3149:

Logun.2349:

dalendria.3762:

Well the Ascended Gear post was finally locked. over 11,000 posts and 222 pages.

I guess they thought it was enough. The funny thing is that the size of the thread now has the attention of the media. More and more sites are finally talking about this change.

The debate about it will continue even if this forum no longer supports it.

And for those that hate the change, the negativity will spread especially to sites people use to make gaming purchase decisions. Already happening but not on a large scale yet.

Arenanet should consider doing something to diminish the growing frustration over this. Silence is a PR tactic but in the Internet age, not a good one. People can express their opinions and find others opinions with just a few clicks. Internet content including forum posts is searchable and can be found even when the original server removes the content.

Ya, I find it very unfortunate they Couldn’t manage just one reassuring post that would appease the masses with some real answers or at least a glimpse into the future of the game so those sitting on the edge like me could make a choice if I’m going to continue with the game or not.

I think players need to be treated like investors not just customers and a certain level of transparency is needed to be maintained as we all invest allot of time on the hobby.

Like any investor that loses faith in a stock we’ll start to look at cashing out if our confidence is diminished especially when unexpected events cause a shift in the condition of your stock.

I hope something good comes out of this, the genre really needs a success story.

I think those who prepurchased should qualify for this role, customers are not really investors though. They should definitely be catered towards and made sure to be happy imo, however,

Not investors in the traditional sense but players none the less make huge investments of time into a game. Most MMO players commit to one MMO because of the time it takes to build virtual property and the connections one makes with other players.

The problem is veteran MMO players have seen other MMO’s change in ways that have destroyed there enjoyment of the game. They can lose confidence in a game overnight unless a new clear path is communicated and fear of what is to come put to rest.

When change starts IMHO that’s when Developers need to be transparent with the community to let players know (X) was the vision but for the greater good we have to do (X) it increase our appeal.

BUT, and this is a big BUT, at the same time a Developer needs to be empathetic to the players that bought into their original vision.

As an example I’m going to bet that if the new tier of gear was marketed to the core player and they provided multiple paths to it open world, crafting and karma then told players it was coming and waited another 2 months to launch it there would have been less outcry.

For one, it would have given players time to enjoy there Exotic gear they just earned and spent a fortune on and or adjust their play style to perhaps focusing on one character to get it into exotics before a tier of gear goes live.
Attaching the new gear to a Dungeon also just makes it feel like the new elitism Raid gear.
I’m sure it would still have had an outcry anyway you try to cut it, the start of gear creep 3 months after launch is unheard of in most MMO circles.

Without a clearer picture from ANet it’s hard to tell where this is going to lead, until I see where this is going my time and money will remain unspent and perhaps invested elsewhere.

I think we are investors in this game but not the company. Without question. The gem shop. That is our investment – direct monetary return for Anet. We get a virtual world in return.
The issue doesnt exist for them so there is nothing to address.Only if outside sources view it as an issue will it become an issue. That is what is required for the catalyst of change.

If they did that and let the drops go a little better I wouldnt hesitate to come back.
I would have felt my issues were heard but now no chance.

But the uber grind crowd dont like that. They need the better # and to have the advantage of gear over skill. That is who they are appealing to and want to play the game.

Not me who spends my time playing how I want or the casual we and our money are not wanted. Just how I see it anyway.

rozcinana.7249:

I actually like FoTM a lot, but I have found it impossible to get past level 4. Someone, or more than one person, either disconnects and can’t get back in or people become frustrated and quit in the middle of it.

I’m looking forward to the difficulty reset (when is it? Friday night??)… hoping to start fresh next week with some more experienced and patient players and get past lvl 4!

Hey, Zoul. Maybe we should all team up and try again?

Sorry to tell you but there is no reset. That was wrong and the level doesnt reset.
I think one of the fan sites got the info wrong.
A dev stated clearly there is no reset.

I think it is a little of both – help gem sales as well as grind.
But as explained in other eloquent posts that arent mine- had they spent the time placing and spiffing up the shop with what people want they would buy instead of Rng Chest they would have had more success.

Or as some posters have asked might as well put it in the cash shop and make some money go all the way to p2w since everything is a blank slate now.

I dropped 200 on another cash shop past 2 days since I wont give anet any money and I am on the verge of asking for a refund. I am trying to give them some time.

I can tell you which one was sold as a no grinding game.
GW2

They now make grindy games. GG

Um sorry this is a wow clone and let them ask for what they want.
This is who anet preferred players are according to the blog post. The most dedicated players deserve the environment they wish to play in so if this is what they want then by all means give it to them.

Why not they have done everything else to look like the competition now. Everything is fair game.
Mounts,gear checks,trinity,duelling,loot rolling.
Nothing is sacred and since they are just another clone they better get to making it good otherwise they will leave then what?

I agree OP Raids are now a must- Make fractals like commander (16spots) and scale upwards for people and enemies. Dont froget to gate it as well.
Make sure loot is UBER and only gotten there and that they are the only way to get best in slot.
Need to keep people playing and grinding.

I dont know about the ability to pull it off. I dont have expertise in the field of support this type of technology.
I can tell you what I see.
Account security debacle
Inability to deal with botters/exploiters
Consistent game bugs
poor cash shop
Poor communication post launch
Events that are bugged and out of tune with surroundings
Unable to balance PvP properly
WvW a huge mess
PVE – Toast.

I will not doubt skill whatsoever. The game looks and runs good with exception of Orr that content is 90% bugged. The communication before launch was great now pitiful.
They were unprepared for what hit them and they have been playing catch up since day 1. They probably do have the resources but they continue to make errors that are causing so much conflict that there is no ability to work on the above so they further fall behind.
Most issues could be addressed by a simple state of the game and vision statement followed up by input from the various teams showing where they are heading.But I think it is far beyond that now.

We are not this games demographic. They dont want us or our money. It is very clear now who they want – see Lindsays post.
They want uber elite grinders who spend hour after hour/day grinding in the dungeon for shiny +5 stats.
Why else would they implement dungeon based on gating and treadmill. Not for the casuals I can tell you that.Why spend dev time if it wasnt a priority right?

They are who Anet want – we dont belong here and that is made clear by the silence.
WOT got a nice investment of $200 since Anet doesnt want me or my money.