S P E E D Starr #0 Necro NA or
I Am NeXeD awful d/D ele NA
There were people that had better than 75% with alot of games. That being said I’m not sure onereply understands how mmr and ranking works.
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Offense and positioning are the best defenses. It’s not really a rotation build at all. Just remember you are going to be starving for lifeforce allllllllllll the time especially if your team doesn’t win group fights so landing scepter 3 at the right times is important as is keeping track of what weapon set you have on even when you are in ds. Typically you want to try and hit scepter 3 after a corrupt boon, a PoC, dagger 4 and staff 4. If you watch some terror necros a big problem I have noticed is some people tend to spam marks on the ground… don’t do this with anything other than 2 and occasionally 3. Never use staff4 all willy nilly like, you don’t want to have that on cooldown at a bad time. Same with dagger 4. YOU MUST LAND YOUR TRANSFERS.
Fears are damage but don’t just spam them can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched someone spam 2 of their fears then their opponent sb’s and wrecKS the necro. Watch your opponents see if you can tell who has used stunbreaKS and stab skills when you know someone has burned them then fear them. But remember fear is a condi so it’s not just stunbreaks that remove fear. Also fear does more damage when the opponent has conditions on them.
As a terrormancer your main job is just to +1 people on points so don’t rotate like an idiot find their engis and eles and go corrupt the kitten out of them.
Well I’ve been playing 4/6/0/0/4 with Berserker Amulet and Rune of Strength. Weapons axe/focus with staff. Axe has sigil of acc and staff frailty both have sigil of strength.
Spite – VI/VIII
Curse – V/X/XIII
Soul Reaping – II/XBeen having a very good time with it all. Really effective against boon builds and in team fights it shuts down Cele Ele/Engi. All in all I’m really having fun with it.
Dump the axe. Try dagger warhorn.Take chill of death instead of axe mastery. In soul reaping take ntd instead of soul marks.(this change is optional but it should only br done if you are not going to use the axe) Get rid of the acc sigil for energy or fire or anything literally anything will be more useful. The frailty is kind of wasted tbh swap for air, fire, energy.
It’s not really useless since you are pretty much going to crit all the time and I don’t go into trait lines for the stats. It’s purely for the traits.
I also dont go into traitlines for stats but in the end you should factor them in, and if you have already 100% critchance in DS every additional precision point is indeed useless in DS.
But hey if you want that high critchance out of DS and dont care about the roughly 25% useless critchance in DS you can do it.
It’s less about the precision in the curses line and more about the path of corruption….. if I’m in wvw it can be more finely tuned… but it’s not an option in PvP.
Couple things here….. probably not going to want to use spectral wall when roaming.
I was completely unaware that axe 3 is a stealth detector and “renders” d/p theives are these new features? If all that was meant by that was it hit’s them in stealth well ok. But the words “detector” and “render” are misleading.
The theives you run into in wvw are mostly d/p dire perplexity theives. They are a pain. BUT! We are well equipped to deal with them you just need to hit your condi transfers and use your channel skills when they go stealth. Also I really hate the Axe so I use daggers and a lot of the time when fighting a theif I’ll just run around spamming aa when the theif is stealthed just keep watching your ds bar. If it starts filling up you are right on top of him alot of the time they will just be dead at your feet.
I go into practice mode just to warm up my hands a little before queueing. I bet I’m not the only one. Also just because they are a big scawwy dwagon doesn’t mean they are good.
I’ve been getting good games haven’t played a lot but the ones I have were ok
The turrets aren’t always on point.
It’s not really useless since you are pretty much going to crit all the time and I don’t go into trait lines for the stats. It’s purely for the traits.
Even if Vitality=Toughness
Toughness+healingpower < precision+vitality
For pvp I think vitality is more vital wouldn’t recommend valkyrie amulet
Another question, Aaron. How would you know it requires better rotations than any other before when you didn’t play in all the previous metas?
“Google”.
My guess is the old meta didn’t have 5 very mobile classes on every team. Also isn’t that kind of like saying how do we know puck movement in the NHL wasn’t as good in the 70s as it is now…. none of the current players played then but it doesn’t make it any less true or obvious.
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Wait a minute…. I thought EU was ahead of us in meta…. so if TCG and CM aren’t using cele…. that just means NA just needs to l2p right?
How come everytime another team outhinks or out plays another team it’s suddenly cheese…..
I am not saying that I would use this build but it would remove alot of boons. And I think this would be better than your build at what you are looking to do.
2/6/0/0/6 4/4/0/0/6 and 4/6/0/0/4 are all better options.
Screw the undead runes use pack runes. kitten the Knights amulet you lose damage and aren’t even really much tankier than a zerker amulet. The sigils are also a little strange. Also I get you are looking for boon removal, but axe just sucks besides 3. And focus is ok for burst damage but your build isn’t doing any of that…. overall the build doesn’t synergize well.
You keep trying to make pvp attrition builds, but we just plain suck at that. I get that you are probably newer to pvp so you are uncomfortable using zerk amulet but it’s really our only option in pvp besides condi.
We do have a very specific niche corruption. It’s quite nice in pvp
That’s funny, I get the same “fear spam cancer” insults on my power necro.
By the way, I have a hard time to go back to terrormancer —> having close to no LF generation feels like being naked. I will probably take a warhorn even if I don’t trait it.
Landing scepter 3 is pretty important
I would still like to know even if it was low I doubt the math would be the problem.
I think we should be able to look at our mmr even if you could only see your number in comparison to everyone elses, with there names just blacked out or something
They run 2 cele eles because rather than have a full bunker on the team they opted for more rounded out builds that can do multiple things well with good mobility. Not because a cele is a better bunker.
Oh really? and tell me what class can come onto a point defended by a D/D cele ele and act as a hard counter.
Shatter mesmer? I know he won’t stay on point but if the ele wants to win he’s going to have to leave that point too. Also necros can win. Another DD ele….
Yeah but you get his point right? I think he is just steering people towards the current meta
They run 2 cele eles because rather than have a full bunker on the team they opted for more rounded out builds that can do multiple things well with good mobility. Not because a cele is a better bunker.
If your new to pvp don’t use the terrormancer, it’s slow you get focused and if your not used to watching boons on your opponents you will end up wasting fear on people with stab.
Base damage on staff is higher than the other weapons so lifeblasting while on staff is the same as axe traited.
And it’s pretty much pointless since you would get the same damage from staff….
He does the same things to necros
hits as hard as dagger.
That is blatantly not true. Also, the game isn’t balanced around wvw it is balanced around pvp where axe is very poor.
The game is not balanced about PvP.. That is the LAST area of the game that they use for balance..
Axe is 100% viable for wvw and pve.. So fine in 2/3 of the game.
no… you’re wrong the game actually is balanced with PvP in mind
Axe is “viable” anywhere in the game
The main problem is the Axe is not OPTIMAL in any part of the game
Ok only one weapon can be optimal. That is why it is optimal. But depending on the situation (pvp wvw, pve) and what you are doing in that situation (group, solo, zerg etc) each weapon has a point where it IS optimal
The weapons are fine. maybe not for the ONE area you want, but oh well
Nope. Axe is not fine. It does more dps than staff, but staff wins in pvp and in wvw due to its utility. You shouldn’t be using it in pve unless it’s a very niche battle where you cannot melee. You will lose dps by doing anything other than spamming dagger auto and lifeblasting.
hits as hard as dagger.
That is blatantly not true. Also, the game isn’t balanced around wvw it is balanced around pvp where axe is very poor.
The game is not balanced about PvP.. That is the LAST area of the game that they use for balance..
Axe is 100% viable for wvw and pve.. So fine in 2/3 of the game.
The game is balanced around pvp. Axe is actually the least viable in wvw and pve. It’s actually more viable in pvp than it is anywhere else and it’s still sub par.
We have the term terrormancer very clearly defined in th Necro community….. honestly I thought everyone knew what a terrormancer was…. but this makes more sense as why idiots call my power necro a cheese terror build sometimes.
Front leaderboard page, just lol xD
Somebody just mad they aint on it.
Sorry but avoiding good players and only playing against newbs doesn’t bring you to top 25 anymore.
Playing 2 games a week doesn’t keep you up there anymore either.
Nothing but good changes on this leaderboard.
I’m glad it works something like you play during primetime win 3 games get +2s and +3s and lose 2 games and get +1 so 5 games total be +8 or +9 and +2, +10 or +11 total.
While those preppy popular kids farming newbies at odd hours, play 5 games, win all 5 and get +1, making them +5.
You play against crap you get crap results on leaderboard.
You play against good players, you get good results on leaderboard.Yall need to stop whining you don’t have the easymode out anymore.
You know ostrich eggs? well I’ve had a few run ins with him during solo que, he plays during primetime. Guess what hes on the top 25. He don’t farm newbies all day. And he doesn’t have a perfect score so don’t go around thinking you better than everyone else because you won WTS. He won WTS too and he’s been beaten a few times.
Those people with 20+ wins 0 losses, bunch of baloney. Nothing but newb farming because I don’t see other good players with 20 losses due to your beatdown. Those good players out there would break your perfect scores.Points based on real games, no more cheesemode I beat the system and therefore #1 on leaderboards type games. I’m HAPPY that they finally have something that is a result of real games rather than people trying to cheat the system.
I bet those same people you dislike so much keep winning the only things that matter, and I bet the new leaderboard people flame out very quickly (maybe a few make it). You can be ranked higher than “those frat boys” but they will still be the ones winning tournaments.
Yeah I’m not getting those blowouts either, well I had a few but I was only on the losing side of one of those.
Switching characters before the game begins will do this to you
Will there be an NA event?
Why doesn’t everyone kittening wait a few weeks for kitten to get stabilized. Did some of you seriously think they could just implement a new system and immediately you will get matched with people of equal skill? It’s going to take a little but for there to be enough of a sample size for better matches. So for now there are going to be some bad ones…. I really don’t see why people are crying so much. Oh noessss I lost a video game. Anyway… did you guys know a candle smells like burnt hair? Take a wiff.
I also call bullkitten on a necro winning a 1v3. That didn’t happen. If an engi a ranger and a theif couldn’t kill you, let alone die themselves they were afk.
^ this 10000000000000000 times.
If all of you are so sure that the leaderboards are bad and you are so much better than the higher ranking person…. you could… I mean well…. you could enter into a tournament…. for those of you that choose not too and continue to play solo THAT IS YOUR CHOICE.
You all know some of you have to lose…. we can’t all be the New England Patriots k we need some Jets fodder.
New Leaderboards = Farm
Pretty epic for a game that is tryharding to be esportz lol
So you weren’t asking a question at all? You just wanted people to post in support of your view, which is this.
Would you be happy with any leaderboard that didn’t have you at the top of it? (Top not having to mean #1 btw)
I would be happy with a leaderboard not rewarding ppl for losing and that’s all, and since most top players\teams only play during night prime times most of them are nowhere to be seen in this “top” ladder while, on the other end, looks pretty crowded by scrubs who just keep playing all day no matter the result
You should show those scrubs how scubby they are and scrub those scrubs right of that scrub lis and take the #1 scrub spot.
Just ask Over Powered Necro, what class he plays, he wins a lot.
He aint no class swapper either, not to my knowledge.
What does playing different professions have to do with anything? You post about as if it is a bad thing. personally, I think someone would be a fool not to swap to other professions and learn to play them well. It is very wise to understand what your opponents are coming at you with, and why.
He asks what class carries the best, and its the Necro.
If you have to swap your class because its not any good to a class that’s good, than that class clearly isn’t best at carrying solo que players.
I’m with you about you should try every class, but as far as carrying solo que’s…. Necro.
Now sometimes you gotta carry extremely heavy loads, and not even a necro can do it, maybe overpowered necro can lift extreme amounts in solo que but it can be very difficult at times.
Take a look at this necro trying to carry his team.
You think those 4 warriors are gw2 only play for achievement type players (+1 achievement for winning pvp as a warrior)? Obviously that necro had a lot of weight to carry. I think if that was an overpowered necro, it could be possible to pull it off with that amount of weight to carry, but any other class wouldn’t even stand a chance.
Can you post some more scoreboards because seeing the scoreboards at the end of a game tells us so much about that game.
I think the reason people are so quick to nix 3 is you are just changing to much at once.
Honestly since the most recent deathshroud nerfs I find myself taking ntd, vital persistence, and deathly perception on almost all of my power builds.
That necro may be the best suited for countering the ele or engi at your home, so it may not be a complete joke.
In an organized group yes, they are perfect for countering them. But your teammates need to be used to working with necro. If you are just soloqing you almost can’t go wrng with ele or engi right now.
Lich was already nerfed…..
Lol at the necro carrYing in solo.
Cele ele or engi.
I would advise against trait ing fear duration on a power build over soul marks etc.
We do have an insta fear, it’s not a stunbreak but it can be traited to do damage.
I agree with 1 2 and 4 to a point, we should have a utility besides wop that provides it or change fitg but I don’t know if I can drop dp
Ok, I’ll give you that. Imagine a class with almost 40hp zerker specced that has can reset whenever it feels like it?
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