Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Soooo, it isn’t working? Would not surprise me, Anet are fairly bad at implementing attack speed increases at least for mesmer (phantasmal haste lol).
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Im happy with this nerf, but i am afraid they will nerf some of the fun stuff. Honestly, i see where you are coming from, this is a very tricky issue. Mesmer condition builds were probably not going to be “meta” and even less so now. But nontheless, a celestial torment shatter build was putting out SO much damage. I traited full inspiration and it still put out too much torment to handle. So it was overly strong (op) in 1v1s and small fights but it would probably still not be meta even before the nerf. I still think it was necessary, it was a VERY faceroll build.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Ehrm… the 3rd minor trait in dueling isn’t confusing combatants anymore but a trait that grants 5s of fury whenever we hit a target with less than 75% hp. (some icd) does someone know all changes we didn’t know yet? Did any of the streamers go through all of these?
There are no words.
This change is good in my opinion. Duelling is about crits and evades, not conditions. Fury is also something shatter mesmer and interrupt mes can make use of.
However, the MtD change is bad bad bad for condi mesmer.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Yeah, at least let it play out.
I will completely lose faith in the balance team if they base their balance on how hard you can beat down a golem.
They do. That’s why they nerfed the new Mental Torment to 30% on opponents now using skills down from 50%. They literally said on the stream “We tested this on some golems and it was a bit too strong”.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
They already have Warden’s Feedback (both focus skills), Masterful Reflection (on distortion), Mirror (on heal), Feedback, probly more right now, I cannot remember.
If someone does not want to adapt their build to counter other builds, they should uninstall as they shouldn’t be PvPing.
lol
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Best change in the patch. Brainless dodge spam sucks
This ^.
The vigor change is one of the top 5 changes coming with the class balance. It will reduce the evade spam some builds can get. It will also make all those extra endurance traits/skills/food have a use in the game.
That would be okay if they actually buffed the passive defences of classes that depend on vigor, you know. But if they’re going to do this major nerf and it’ll be the only thing nerfed, what good is it going to do?
Classes that depend on vigor? Well maybe it is time to run a more defensive build. A nerf to builds that could run 100% offensive zerker and have insave survivability via evade spam.
Does fresh air have insane survability? Is it meta? Does it depend on vigor? No. No. Yes.
So BUFF the fresh air build then. A build being weak is no reason to change how an entire boon works.
Well, did they do it? That’s the point, they nerf vigor but give nothing to the builds that depend on it.
Wow.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Thief is amazing next patch. In terms of thief v mesmer, thief will literally have 100% uptime on all boons in the game except stab (50%) as long as they hit their instant skill. So i think you need to work on your predictions mate!
Engi Thief
Mes Ele
Warrior Guard
Necro
Or something. Ranger i don’t know.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
^ Usually only characer that i play on
^ Usually only characer that i play on
Best change in the patch. Brainless dodge spam sucks
This ^.
The vigor change is one of the top 5 changes coming with the class balance. It will reduce the evade spam some builds can get. It will also make all those extra endurance traits/skills/food have a use in the game.
That would be okay if they actually buffed the passive defences of classes that depend on vigor, you know. But if they’re going to do this major nerf and it’ll be the only thing nerfed, what good is it going to do?
Classes that depend on vigor? Well maybe it is time to run a more defensive build. A nerf to builds that could run 100% offensive zerker and have insave survivability via evade spam.
Does fresh air have insane survability? Is it meta? Does it depend on vigor? No. No. Yes.
So BUFF the fresh air build then. A build being weak is no reason to change how an entire boon works.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Engi is face roll.
As is D/P Carry thief, what is your point?
I played all classes, and honestly I’d have to tell you Engi is 10 times more faceroll than thief in general. A good thief is really strong but it’s much easier to suck at playing thief than suck at playing engi.
Because engi has a lower Skill floor. In terms of high level competitiveness, engi is one of the hardest with mesmer also up there.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Then what do you think about Engi just gets one additional F5 no matter what specialization they choose?
Also not fair to you?
Another good way to think about chronomancy is that do you really think it’s mandatory? If you truly believe that an additional F5 is overpowered, then let’s see if every mesmer will be chronomancer after expansion.
They probably will for a while, but mostly because of expansion hype
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Engi is face roll.
As is D/P Carry thief, what is your point?
You mean meta Panic Strike thief? You’re comparing a whole prof to a spec that uses RNG and procs and thief will be call faceroll/cheese/OP no matter what.
Yes PS of course. It is a very user friendly easy spec in terms of mechanics and requires low play time for most.
That said, you can’t really call a whole class face roll. There are face roll builds on any class.
Celestial Rifle isn’t all Engineer is, and I doubt anyone would say other specs beside this one pose the most issues atm.
After the changes? I don’t know, but neither do any of you. Not even the Devs do (quite evidently). We’ll just have to wait and see.
If an engi loses to any thief they need to uninstall
Thief can win vs engi.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
What gets me a little irritated is that our new “Continuim Shift” F5 is supposed to compensate us for only getting the OH shield. And here in the trait changes, Engineer gets what? That’s right a new F5 kit. And we still haven’t seen his specialization or new weapon.
The chronomancer sounds really cool. I just hope that we can REALLY utilize that alacrity/slow and they don’t have huge cooldowns. Thus, chronomancer ends up being kind of gimmick cause we can only take advantage once very 5 minutes or something. I want it to be our “Fast Casting” in GW2. So that when played skillfully, its a powerful force.
Engi has a hammer.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
I enjoy Robert. He seems very passionate about the professions he designs – if a bit nervous.
Great job Robert and Josh – appreciate it and I for one really look forward to trying out the new Mesmer changes.
I agree, he is awesome. Necro and Mesmer got the most skill based and unique changes.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
This has probably been brought up before, but i’ve been wondering what the reasoning is behind giving the chronomancer an additional class mechanic (f5), while other elite specialisations only get their class mechanics replaced (e.g. dragonhunter gets f1-3 replaced, reaper gets f1 replaced,..)
I would think it made way more sense to replace the mesmers f4 skill when opting for chronomancer since it’s just a flat out buff as opped to an alternative playstyle. It seems a little unfair IMO.
Any thoughts?
Because the other classes’ skills were reworked…
Reaper gets new f1 + 5 new shroud skills.
Dragonhunter get 3 new profession skills.
Chronomancer gets 1 new profession skill.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
I enjoy playing engi, but this honestly is disappointing to see. It really seems like there’s some favoritism going on, and not just with profession balance, but with addressing community concerns regarding professions.
Still hanging on to my 50 bucks.
What about:
They fix cancel casting on axe auto to boost dps. They don’t do the same on mesmer greatsword even though its actually used ALOT and is very strong.
Because it is overrated and doesn’t do nearly as much as people think. Try spamming auto on a semi-tanky build. They will die from air fire procs, not from the auto cancel.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
FYI: Ranger good buffed, not nerfed at all.
Except spirits.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Traits are great, and encourage more active use of pets.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
With 4 useless healing traits baseline, it’s almost impossible to “juggle around” and still keep up with all the buffs other professions received.
At best, you’re going to be staying static and wondering…WTF…why do I have so few new toys and options compared to others?
It’s almost beyond comprehension how they justified a super tiny nerf to Warrior’s healing signet, yet did this to Consume Conditions. Remember what they said? They claimed they didn’t want to over-nerf Warrior healing signet (despite multiple warriors being in meta PvP teams) because they didn’t “want the other heals to become a much better option”.
In reality, the tiny nerf to warrior’s healing signet changed NOTHING in the decision making and virtually all the other options are still extinct….despite the other options being quite viable and on par with other professions.
YET…with necros…they have 3 terrible healing options and decide to whack-a-mole the only option of value….without doing anything tangible to improve the other 3 options.
“didn’t want the other heals to become a much better option”.
At least they got that part on point!
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
I’m ready to bet for a huge QQ about Mesmer Shatter and Thief d/p
Stay ready
this^^
Yep, people like to QQ about thinks that kill them. Also, teef buffs tho.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
I think the skill floor on proper dodging has been raised significantly by the nerf to Vigor. This is definitely going to be a key factor in fighting Thieves, who have it much better with Endurance regen then most others.
Sounds like fun though. I hope you share your results and tips & tricks if this all happens. I don’t play Thief and I play too sporadically to make any scheduled events possible.
GL!
“I think the skill floor on proper dodging has been raised significantly by the nerf to Vigor.”
I guess so, but this makes DE much worse, which is huge for mesmer.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
I blame this entirely on the fact that it removes conditions and provides stealth. They will be very hesitant to reduce the cooldown and keep those two factors. Remember with PU now torch provides 6 seconds of stealth. Yeah, they aren’t touching it.
“They will be very hesitant to reduce the cooldown and keep those two factors.”
Why? That is how it works in game at the moment of speaking, and noone even uses the trait!
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
1.5% of 30 seconds is 0.45 seconds So this trait is actually giving a 45% boost to recharge rates for your torch skills while under stealth. So The Prestige on it’s own gives a 9% total cool-down bonus (if traited with PU, and why wouldn’t you if you are running a traited torch!). And if you are traiting PU, I’m sure that you will have a few other stealth skills up your sleeves.
Using Decoy as a second source of stealth gives a total of 12 seconds of stealth, followed by 12.6 seconds before you can stealth with the prestige again.
Of course, this trait is no where near as good as Chaotic Dampening is for staff
It gives 9% if used with the torch + a grandmaster trait in a completey different line? That is horrible compared to the standard 20%. It sucks.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Ok I’ll admit the new thief builds are going to be ridiculous.
I’m still standing by the stance that engi and mesmer got stronger changes and so they “won”, but thief as a whole is always closest to the edge of imba, and so will probs end up stronger after the patch.
Kinda funny how thief and engi already are really strong.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
I need to bump this thread. I didn’t really notice it back then, but if you just play guild wars for an hour then switch to something like CS or similar, you will feel exactly what OP meant. The camera in guild was is unresponsive and feels slow, which in my opinion really hurts the combat and especially the competitve PvP. A slow and sluggish camera is not a good sign if a game wants to be competetive. I don’t know if the general “floatiness” och whatever is due to the engine- if it isn’t, this is still so so important. I guess it won’t happen though /sigh ::(
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
If they reduce the activation time to ½ sec I’m ok with the changes to it. Otherwise I think it was a kitten move.
No /15chars
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Honestly, it took 2 years to rebalance this game and all youre doing is destroying all the balance you had over this time
Just think logicly for a second, this won’t benefit anyone
I am glad this is happening, the classes I play the most are not part of the meta, so I am glad there is a chance to “reset” and let see how things play out.
The people that are crying because their mains are part of the meta, that’s just too bad.
Really? What do you play? My impression from the changes is that they reinforce the meta (exception: mesmer).
Are you saying that mesmers either weren’t part of the meta at all or are you saying that mesmers won’t be part of the meta? Because neither is true. They definitely weren’t as common as thieves, but they were still played way more than ranger or necro. At least on EU.
My comment was pointing out that most classes currently in the meta got buffed (Ele, Engi, Guard, Thief), and those that aren’t in the meta got nerfed (notably necro); I haven’t read up on the ranger/warrior changes yet. The exception to this is the mesmer, which was not meta and got a buff.
What are you smoking? Mesmers got the most buffs of all.
Engi ele thief got buffs. People overrate the mesmer changes by alot. Alot. Mesmer isnt even very good ATM and is used for portal and moa. The main reason mesmer can spike is because a thief stealths them. All in all, thief will hardcounter just as hard and ele and engi and thief got thr biggest buffs
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
So this boosts utility quite dramatically . I hope this isn’t how it would work.
F5 in, x, mimic, f5 out, Signet of Illusions. Repeat.
That is too many elites cast in a row.
It doesn’t work on elites (mimic). Also, i don’t think signet of illusions will work on chronomancer F5.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
No the 23/06/15 changes to Mes has changed nothing between Mes and Thieves. If a Mes was getting owned before the changes, he/she will still be getting owned after them.
Way too soon to judge this.
No
/15chars.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
READ THIS
VVVVVVVVi THINK they removed it because of chonomancers reset shatter ability, and the fact that we already have a signet that recharges the shatter skills.
which means anet probably removed it because there afraid we will be shattering non stop with smart use of this stuff…im talking activates reset shatter>mind wrack 9k>tanks dmg to prock IV>another mindwrack>reset shatter> mind wrack off cd…
BUT.. this is assuming you take chonomancy and illusions as your specilizations. leaving you with either dueling or domination. so your gonna miss out on mental torment or deceptive evasion. which is a big thing which will HIGHLy reduce the effectivness of this idea.
in my own highly logical opinion. i think that illusionary invogoration should return as a REVAMPED illusions grandmaster trait
something that works like this:
grandmaster: illlusionary invigoration ; when your hp falls below 50% activate signet of illusions active
aka if you run signet traits you can get a distortion when you hit 50%. among other things
effectsthis way it gives the trait more functionality and build diversity because it will allow “shattermancers”, “mesignets”, to be a thing meaning more build diversity. AND
if you wanted to run “classic shatter” then you could run domination dueling and illusions grabbing this trait instead of improved shatters so you get the recharge.
so it would both give more diverisity and preserve the current buildsbut you know. this is just my…..logical opinion
btw. to whoever looked at the “Vs” at the beginning of my post and though “w v w v w” youv been playing just the right amount of said gamemode
This is how it should be, but not in grandmaster. Instead, adept.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Engi and teef and possibly ele
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
I just wanna know if they’re bringing it back. It is a staple in zerk shatter builds though…. /sigh
We don’t know if it’s coming back but for now, it is gone.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Warrior Arms GM Minor:
Bloodlust: Deal 5% additional damage to bleeding foes. Bleeding you inflict lasts 33% longer.Does this really need to go down to 33%? That means with a 45% bleed duration rune set and a 20% sigil you’re stuck at 98% bleeding duration bonus.
If you absolutely must nerf it down from 50%, at least leave it at 35.
Is 98% too little?!!
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Here is my constructive feedback on the thief changes. I realize it has gotten a long rant but I would like to encourage you to read and consider these propositions. I mainly write form a PvP point of view which is very much influenced by class balance. In order to decrease the length of this post I only commented on changes I do not agree with/think need change. Some other changes were very well done for which i want to thank Arenanets Developers
SKILLS & GENERAL
- Withdraw: This skill is one of the few things that stands between a thief imminent destruction when being snared/immob. The increase of the cd hits thief pretty hard and the only way around is traiting for it (tricks cd reduce) which only brings it back to the original?. Please restore the cd to its original so the traits actually gives us an advantage?
- Traps: Traps remain weak as they rarely trigger on more than 1 person. Some changes to the functionality are required here (many threats with ideas exist)
- Devourer Venom: Immob duration halved (chainsaw nerf) to account for extra venom charge. Currently it is 2s/strike for 2 strikes = 4sec of immob. It will be 1s/strike for 3 strikes = 3s immob. Hard nerfs for a 40 sec cd skill that will no longer see any play outside venom share now. I suggest putting it on 1.5 sec/strike.
- Chocking Gas: Got nerfed hard a few patches ago already. Will need testing with new condi system but still seems a pretty hard nerf.
Withdraw was very very strong in pvp so the nerf was deserved. Remember though the heal is increased a bit.
“thief imminent destruction when being snared/immob”
Now a dodge will have to stand between that. Or the acrobatics trait that makes thief immune to one immob every 10 seconds.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Because everyone knows gamers REALLY enjoy seeing their classes/professions turned inside-out 3 years into the game and entire games haven’t imploded because developers thought it necessary to do so…..
Really looking forward to relearning all my classes… oh wait… no I’m not.
If the devs actually made the classes harder this is fine. Mostly, they did not.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Guardians got nerfed.
The devs proving once again that they hate Guardians. We are now officially the most broken profession in this game.
Rangers are competing for that spot. And I can tell you, the competition for the Guardian will be tough.
“The devs proving once again that they hate Guardians.” What do you mean? They have been in a great place as first bunker now dps in pvp since the beginning of the game.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Guys let’s at least be nice to each other:P If I may be free to collect the arguments the OP asked about:
Right now Steal is 35 CD, when traited it is
- 30% from the Trickery line
- 20% from Sleight of Hand
Which makes it ~18 seconds if I am correct.After the HoT release the base CD will be 30 seconds and when traited:
- 15% from Lead Attacks
- 20% from Sleight of Hand
Which makes it 19.5 seconds if I am correct.So in reality it is actually a nerf instead of a buff.:P
__________________________________SA: when in stealth, gain initiative regen health cure condi stealth longer reduce dmg in stealth…
We don’t really know the numbers, I think we will get only 1 initiative per 3 seconds and hopefully the heal will stay the same as it currently is. I must agree that this is a powerful trait, but not much better then the current state a thief is in.
Hope that clarifies some things for you!
It is a nerf if you go trickery… which everyone does.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
i disagree with op completely. burning can also stack now and if there are mesmer and thief on the team every engineer will use it to shut down thief, especially in low rank play. i think d/p meta zerk is dead and i’m not sure about s/d being a proper alternative (was nerfed hard also). when engi runs anti stealth trait thief d/x does little damage. high risk low reward gameplay
Thief changes are strong asf, but engi might wreck thieves, yes. SD wasn’t nerfed.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
^ Usually only characer that i play on
^ Usually only characer that i play on
Withdraw":https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Withdraw 15s -> 18s recharge (healing also inc. by 10%)
Withdraw is very very very strong so this is logical.
Devourer Venom Immob Reduced from 2s -> 1s.
It has 2 changes baseline now
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Lol. Thieves will be absolutely insanely strong. I don’t see how you could possibly fear mesmers when you have 1200 range steal, panic strike, 2x ectoplasms, and everything else. You can even get immunity to mes sword #3 if you go acro as 3rd traitline.
Mesmers are now even more scared of thief.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Don’t Stop: The effects of cripple and chill on you are reduced by 50%, meaning your movement is decreased by 25% and 33% respectively, rather than 50% and 66%. If you would become immobilized, you are instead crippled for 4 seconds. This effect can only occur once every 10 seconds.
Also a very overpowered trait!
Fixed
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
The changes don’t open up for many changes, but the few good options have potential to be really strong (from pvp perspective).
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
There is one advantage mesmer has over thief, when engi try to smoke us out, our illusions may take the hit for their master and forced “locked on” into CD.
I assume you mean the other post of Exciton.8942 in the other thread.
I imagine that, if the skill that hit us or our illusions is an AOE, it can reveal up to the max of players/illusions that the skill can hit inside its area with the first tick before “Lock On” go into CD.ENGINEER -> Tools -> Master:
Lock On: Striking a foe in stealth analyzes them, revealing them and inflicting them with 10 stacks of vulnerability for 8 seconds. This trait has a 20 second internal cooldown.
Ye this won’t trigger on clones except if the clones are in stealth, IE via mass invis.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
I’m kinda split. Part of me says “Yay! More Burn!” and another is kinda peeved about the loss of condie-removal and the fact that 1 stack of Burn for 6s under the new system seems possibly weaker then 4 stacks of Confusion for 4s under the current system. More reliable yes, but possibly quite a bit weaker too.
“The Pledge”
Torch skills remove 1 condition from you when activated. While you are stealthed torch skills recharge 1.5% of their maximum recharge every second.
Not the same. Also, the reacharge SUCKS.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
If it does i will definately not use mass invis when going chaos. Not that i used it anyways…
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
What is the reasoning for getting rid of invig? There is almost no reason and it does nothing but punish the most difficult build to effectively play. Doesn’t promote build diversity or anything, its staple on almost all shatter based mesmer builds. Wish A-Net could give any feedback on this topic.
If you look at the inability to spell basic english in this thread, I doubt this is the most difficult build to play. Seems quite the opposite, actually.
You are right, staff mes is harder
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
@Sadrien:
That largely depends on the skill level of the playerbase in question.
- At high levels, yes.
- At moderate levels, meh. Very build dependent in my opinion
- At low levels, heck no.
I have always had a love-hate relationship with the Thief class
- Thief has such a high skill ceiling that it is a blast to play as you rarely ever feel restricted by the class
- Thief has several non-telegraphed but high-damage abilities that I feel harm counterplay
Now, Ross has a point at the moderately competent thieves due to the non-telegraphed issue. If a Glassy Thief runs into a glassy anything, they do a single DPS combo and it’s a downed player. Sadly, this creates a low skill floor for Thieves which leads to aggravation from players as no one likes to see nothing but it take them down. It is why you don’t see nearly as much aggravation from players that get hit by a Warrior’s Eviscerate. Only the least mature players complain about that as the rest realize that “hey, I saw it coming and failed to do something about it”.
Side-note: I have the same dislike for some of Mesmer’s own “instant” abilities with no telegraph (ex: Mantra of Pain and Mantra of Distraction). I’m for things that promote counterplay and dislike things that harm it. I want good fights and being able to see my opponent’s skills and react while they do the same concerning my skills leads to much more fun fights in my opinion.
I agree mostly, especially for example mantra of pain. Mantra of distraction however is meant to be an instant interrupt and can be baited as people can see the mantra charge on your condition bar.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
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^ Usually only characer that i play on
Hi frands, Teef Teef Teef Teef here, retired best multiclass NA!
For someone who has retired, you sure post a lot. You remind me of an ex who can’t let go. Just like an ex, you have two options: 1. beg a team to take you back. 2. move on and play a different game.
Im plat 1 in league, and I wouldn’t come back to the game unless I got into the Abjured cuz then I could farm free money off of Anet. I’m just highlighting the biggest problem I saw in PvP when I still played and how Anet could potentially fix PvP and bring people back.
@Dr GonzoWithout Thieves Mesmer would be OP???? LOL. Go play a Mesmer and tell me that they’re on the same tier as thief. Unlike Thief who can faceroll 1-2-3 in teamfights then insta-disengage, Mesmer has a very hard time doing damage. Even if there wer no thieves mesmer would still be a high skill floor class and would definitely not be OP because the class has clear weaknesses and counterplay unlike Thief. Same for rangers, but they’re easier to play, in exchange for less utility.
I play mesmer for 3 days now (mainly playing thief before that)
I must say, once you get used to shattering, beating people up is even easier on mesmer. Especially with the high ground on legacy of foefire.You are a bad mesmer.
With mesmer only shoutbows seem challenging because it takes forever to take down those passive healing kittens. I’d much rather ANet look into that particular build first. It seems kittened for a shoutbow to survive 3 burst players for more than 20 secs <o>
Either you have very very low mmr (vs new players mesmer is easy) or you are playing hotjoin, or you are a mesmer natural. In that case, please record and post footage of your gameplay so the rest of us can learn.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
^ Usually only characer that i play on
^ Usually only characer that i play on
Thief is not not OP but its game breaking . Even if they nerf it more than they already did it will still be broken due to the core mechanics of the class. The only solution is to redesign the class or leave it that way.
You could literally nerf everything by 30% and it would still be broken . Because other classes can’t match an initiative system which allows to spam daze/blind , high stealth/ evade uptime depeding on the build and multiple instant gap closers.
And long stealth duration in conquest is just stupid. If a thief goes stealth near your close point, you basically either have to afk there or move and get decapped 3 seconds later. No matter what you do ,the thief wins by making you waste time or kill your teammates outnumbered while you sit there and wonder if you gonna get decapped or not.
Stealth duration need a nerf for sure. Getting 1 sec of stealth for a blast/leap sounds reasonable and 5 sec on shadow refuge would be great too.
Since thief is so “broken” how did abjured win without a thief in their comp with enemy team running one? I mean obviously thief team should have cuz thief prof is so broken in this game, right?
Because they stacked celestial self-sustain bunker classes to win. Thats how. And thats the only reliable counter to thief. Being tanky and having good sustained damage/healing does well against thief.
But thief is so op there is no way to beat it unless it gets nerfed massively?!?!? I am confused now…
Because celesial is already getting nerfed.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
^ Usually only characer that i play on
^ Usually only characer that i play on
Dps guards. Teef, Survival condi ranger. These are bad matchups for any power shatter mes
Yaniam [Mesmer]
^ Usually only characer that i play on
^ Usually only characer that i play on