Guild Wars 2

party buddy.4956:

I would like to request that crafting no longer give experience, because it directly skews the value of crafted items.

I would venture to say that Key farmers, and lazy levelers represent the majority of people crafting. and they are creating the whole Tradepost/crafting convolution (worthlessness of items) which is IMHO a detriment to the game.

You know what ruins loot in this game? That so much drops and most of it is garbage. Even though there is so much on the tp that things aren’t even worth posting, most drops get vendored or salvaged and there is still a glut of trash on the TP. The game gives out garbage gear like Jehovah’s Witness pamphlets. You can’t get rid of it fast enough. It has absolutely zero to do with crafting and everything with how most gear is simply trash.

So a turret is a weapon….how? Honestly, think a little more before you post.

Donari.5237:

Looks like today (and on tomorrow’s PoI), we hear about storytelling methods.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-story-so-farheart-of-thorns-beats/

And once I read it, it’s more a “story so far.” Useful for those who didn’t play LS2.

Ugh. Really couldn’t care less. I hate to say it, but out of a lot of MMORPGs that I have played, I am not very invested at all in the story of GW2. It’s just not interesting and the characters they shove in your face to interact with aren’t ‘things’ I can be empathetic towards.

I forgot his name, but the King of Orr before it sunk into the sea was more impressive than Adelbern. Just saying.

Just curious. Why? We know what legends they will have. We don’t know exactly what they will do, but we know the names. Why speculate on something that will never happen? And other than being a jerk before AND after death, what is so legendary about Adelbern?

Astralporing.1957:

Wonderly.1324:

If the drop rate of precursors is %0.01, then only the top %99.99 richest (or luckiest) players will have a certain legendary.

That is patently not true. It would be true only if said drop chance was checked only once ever per each person, but, as you well know, it’s not so. In fact, there are people that are producing precursors (just as there are people that random dropped more than one).

Currently the precursors are being obtained by several categories of players, and the biggest one is neither the luckiest, or the wealthiest, but simply* people that are willing to put some effort into it.* And if currently most people are not willing to do that, i see no reason for the situation to change after HoT. It’s not like these new precursor collections will be a cakewalk.

And the new legendaries will not be buyable, by the way, which will make them far more “exclusive” and “prestigious” (as much as a virtual set of data in a computer game you are certain to get if you are willing to work for it can confer any prestige) than current ones.

Effort has nothing to do with it. It’s all about luck or money.

Algreg.3629:

Ralanost.8913:

Algreg.3629:

Darkbattlemage.9612:

Andred.1087:

You’re way over-analyzing this.

In your opinion. However I wasn’t weighing in on the whole “us versus them” mentality of this argument. I was weighing in on the original poster’s idea. As for my opinion on the whole argument, its monumentally stupid. It boils down to sounding like this “If you were really a considered person you would waypoint and run back so I don’t have to sacrifice my time to resurrect your character, it’s only x amount of seconds of your time which is nothing compared to the x amount of time I would have to give up helping you.” “Well if you were a truly considerable person that time wouldn’t matter because you helped another human being.” Notice the circular and repetitive pattern of the argument?

based on the axiom that helping someone is a good thing, regardless of his actions or willfully and unnecessarily being a liability to you. I reject your axiom and collectivist weltanschauung.

Thank you for teaching me a new word, even if it’s german. I don’t think I will ever be able to pronounce it.

oh, I was pretty sure it being one of those cute few words that made it into the english language, like Kindergarden and Weltschmerz. Gonna have to check this

Never heard of Weltschmerz either.

coglin.1867:

Legendary weapons stopped being legendary the second they took WvW complition out, in my opinion.

lol, wvw map completion makes them legendary? Please tell me you are kidding. I did that once before the change and didn’t fight one single other player. It just took time. SO LEGENDARY.

Algreg.3629:

Darkbattlemage.9612:

Andred.1087:

You’re way over-analyzing this.

In your opinion. However I wasn’t weighing in on the whole “us versus them” mentality of this argument. I was weighing in on the original poster’s idea. As for my opinion on the whole argument, its monumentally stupid. It boils down to sounding like this “If you were really a considered person you would waypoint and run back so I don’t have to sacrifice my time to resurrect your character, it’s only x amount of seconds of your time which is nothing compared to the x amount of time I would have to give up helping you.” “Well if you were a truly considerable person that time wouldn’t matter because you helped another human being.” Notice the circular and repetitive pattern of the argument?

based on the axiom that helping someone is a good thing, regardless of his actions or willfully and unnecessarily being a liability to you. I reject your axiom and collectivist weltanschauung.

Thank you for teaching me a new word, even if it’s german. I don’t think I will ever be able to pronounce it.

Impatient people. Anet will tell us when the release date is. ANY SITE OTHER THAN GW2 IS SPECULATING. Until they announce it officially, it’s just rumors. This isn’t new. This is industry standard.

cranos.5913:

Myrden.2456:

cranos.5913:

I stopped caring about specialisations as soon as I learned guardian will get a bow. Anyway, I doubt we’ll be seeing any information about them in the next month. I have a feeling they wanna keep this info for last.

This hasn’t been confirmed yet. it MAY be the case, but ANET hasn’t released it, so why dismiss it already. Also, who’s to say the longbow may not have great attacks that really add to the profession?

Considering pretty much every fight in PvE is melee, I’m disappointed we get a ranged weapon.

Only if you are in the zerg/everyone stack camp of thought, sure.

TheDaiBish.9735:

Quite the opposite, actually.

Exclusivity through RNG or high cost on the TP isn’t something I’d really call hard; more like tedious.

Now, however, gaining a Legendary – and precursor – will have a story behind it. The weapon has a place in the world and lore, whereas before they were just random weapons with the Legendary title.

Very much this. I will respect someone more that worked for a new legendary over someone that paid for a current legendary.

Andred.1087:

Do you guys not have anything else to entertain yourselves with? If you’re bored of GW2, stop playing GW2. It’s really kittening simple. Maybe you just have more free time than you know what to do with? I wish I was so lucky.

Doing something you don’t enjoy is a waste of time. Find something else to keep you occupied until you want to come back to GW2. You lose nothing for taking a break. Log in for your daily rewards if it’s important to you. Don’t force yourself to find entertainment in something you don’t want to do.

We want to play GW2, we want to enjoy our time with it. We are lamenting that we are not. We aren’t saying that it’s our only source of entertainment and we don’t know what to do without it. We are just not happy with the state that GW2 is in at the moment. Capiche?

MaXi.3642:

I was quite excited when they announced the expansion and I started to play the game more, but the excitement slowly fades out and I’m now logging only for a daily… new information just don’t come fast enough… also I would like to know the specializations so I can decide if I change my main so I can level it up before expansion…

I at least cut that part out. Got every class to 80, other than revenant of course. But I would like to know specs so I can figure out if I want a different character as a main.

Sthenith.5196:

And i forgot to mention that although it might have not been planned that way, it reminds a LOT of players of the airplane crash a week ago. In my opinion, and it’s oc just an opinion, they could have thought about something better or changed it’s impact considering that.

As much as I’m not a fan of this April Fool’s prank, this is just trying to be offended. Just stop it. There will always be some tragedy somewhere in the world. Comedy shouldn’t have to suffer for it. They aren’t referencing it. Just take it as the prank it is and get over yourself.

I am barely playing the current game. Skipping guild events. Just logging in for dailies. There really is nothing really inspiring me to try hard in the current game. Hopefully with the legendary mastery in HoT I will care more and feel compelled to play more. As of right now, I just don’t have the motivation to farm gold as I find it boring.

Got my dailies done and just logged. I don’t mind april fool’s stuff when it’s fun or very temporary. Making me mess around with graphics options so I don’t get a headache for 24 hours? Yeah, I think I will just not be online.

So far don’t really care at all for the mad scientist tools. Just not really compelling.

After 2014 and the mess of games from Ubisoft, you think people would learn. Rush games and you get unfinished broken messes.

Zaoda.1653:

I have a feeling specialisations won’t give us that much variety/difference when I really think about it – maybe 1 new trait line (which replaces the profession’s main trait line – like arcana for ele, or soul reap for necro etc.) and a different weapon type I assume, so not really looking forward to specialisations anymore.

Instead, I’d rather fancy a sneak peak at some of the new legendary weapons. I realise most don’t want rainbow themed weapons this time – completely understandable. We have the bifrost and the dreamer, and I do think with the new legendaries we need some more serious/fierce looking weapons with unique effects.

In fact I’m thinking about going for the juggernaut legendary for my future revenant, but then today I was thinking – wait, what if there’s a new legendary hammer that I like even more? So I’m kind of on the edge on what to do at the moment.

Just because you lack imagination and creativity doesn’t mean the developers do. Could you have come up with the Revenant in the state that we currently know it? No? They did.

RNG is RNG. Random is never fair.

Zetsumei.4975:

You guys realise that probably the biggest reason specialisations haven’t been talked about or put in the beta is because the content isn’t anywhere near being completed right lol? That goes for most of the content in HoT. What people are failing to realize is that the majority of the content wasn’t being completed in secret all this time in some good-willed plan by anet but being created from scratch as we speak. People should weigh up whether the missing content from the usual updates is significantly less than what this expansion will give us.

Conspiracy theory nonsense. None of us here has any real idea on their progress. You are assuming. We can just wait and see. In the meantime, do something more productive with your time then preaching this hairbrained garbage.

If the hoodie is a head slot, than no you can’t wear a mask at the same time. Masks take head slots.

Right now I don’t even bother salvaging much. MF seems mostly useless and I just want gold.

We have no where near the info we need to say anything about it. We know only some of the Revenant abilities and nothing about the Guardian or Revenant specializations. Any info we give right now is based on personal biases and not actual solid information.

I’m better it’s going to be adventures to spite us. While I do want to eventually know about adventures, almost EVERYONE wants to know about specializations, so you know they will take the longest to talk about that.

Probably a standard fisheye effect. What did you expect?

I think officers getting a commander tag that only guild members could see would be wonderful. Not everyone that wants or is willing/capable of leading is also willing to drop 300g for a tag they may or may not really use.

ZeftheWicked.3076:

It’s strage that we wind up as pact’s 2nd in command given we’re either:

1. Thieves.
2. Cementary hyenas (necro)
3. Con artists (mesmers).
4. Serial arsonists (eles + guards)
5. Suicide bombers (engi)
6. War criminals (warrior and piles of corpses in his wake)

Only ranger is somewhat half decent person, if you disregard multiple cases of animal attacks which strangely occur always in his close presence…

Irrelevant. Soldiers in wars kill people. Doesn’t matter how we kill them in the end.

No. They are done making achievements. They will never add anymore ever. /s

Of course they are adding new achievements. Stop and think before posting. And of course we aren’t talking about them. We have no idea what they will be and achievements generally aren’t exciting in and of themselves so there is nothing to discuss. They will exist, they are things you can get. What else do you need to know?

We are all playing the commander of the pact. We are heros of our order and our home cities. Why in gods name would we be common criminals?

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Ralanost.8913:

Ok I Did It.2854:

Ralanost.8913:

Just be honest and say that you hate not being able to get ahead of others by spending your money.

I have never bought a pre or a legendary off the TP I have sold a few quite a few that I have gotten from the forge, but the point remains the same, if they require the same mats as the old ones people will dominate the market, if the MATs where only used for legendary’s that would be fine, but alas they are not, there are several things in game that need those MATs to craft, certain armor/weapons etc,

So from this update those people who do not care about legendary’s are going to get hammered by the TP prices for those MAT’s when they need them for the other gear they are crafting,

For me when Powerful Blood hits 1g each it will be great, but as this game is firmly designed for the causal player and not people like me who play more, they are going to get ruined by this update if they want anything nice.

I have no problem with Pre’s and Legendary’s made via the mastery system being account bound, but if it comes from a drop of forge it should be tradable.

From what I recall the mastery line for legendary precursors cost a lot of mastery points. So not only will they have to sink all those mastery points into the crafting, but they will still have to spend the experience and then do the various objectives as well. 3 stages worth. I will be surprised if people will really dedicate all their points so quickly to making a legendary? It will block all progress they can make in Maguuma while they are doing that. I really don’t think crafting mats will be affected that much especially with them coming from events in HoT. And precursors that drop or come from the mystic toilet have already been confirmed to still work as they do now.

Whoever gets there first decides the prices of new legendary’s. They will know the mats needed for the collections before anyone else and can buy every single one of those mats off the TP. I know I will be working 24/7 to get that mastery unlocked asap otherwise you won’t have a snowballs chance in hell of being able to afford a new legendary.

That’s just paranoia speaking. There will be people buying mats. There will be people selling mats. It always evens out in the end.

You do realize Rift came out with their wardrobe before GW2 was released, right?

Ok I Did It.2854:

Ralanost.8913:

Just be honest and say that you hate not being able to get ahead of others by spending your money.

I have never bought a pre or a legendary off the TP I have sold a few quite a few that I have gotten from the forge, but the point remains the same, if they require the same mats as the old ones people will dominate the market, if the MATs where only used for legendary’s that would be fine, but alas they are not, there are several things in game that need those MATs to craft, certain armor/weapons etc,

So from this update those people who do not care about legendary’s are going to get hammered by the TP prices for those MAT’s when they need them for the other gear they are crafting,

For me when Powerful Blood hits 1g each it will be great, but as this game is firmly designed for the causal player and not people like me who play more, they are going to get ruined by this update if they want anything nice.

I have no problem with Pre’s and Legendary’s made via the mastery system being account bound, but if it comes from a drop of forge it should be tradable.

From what I recall the mastery line for legendary precursors cost a lot of mastery points. So not only will they have to sink all those mastery points into the crafting, but they will still have to spend the experience and then do the various objectives as well. 3 stages worth. I will be surprised if people will really dedicate all their points so quickly to making a legendary? It will block all progress they can make in Maguuma while they are doing that. I really don’t think crafting mats will be affected that much especially with them coming from events in HoT. And precursors that drop or come from the mystic toilet have already been confirmed to still work as they do now.

I find SW to be endlessly boring. Nothing but one kill event after another in the same ugly environment. Can’t be bothered to stick around long enough for anything major to spawn. It feels like an overblown Modniir Ulgoth pre event. And we all know how many people skip those pre events. The current state of the game is pretty bad. I am looking forward to the variety that HoT will bring. But SW and DT are both ugly and boring little literal sandboxes that I don’t care for.

nightwulf.1986:

Diovid.9506:

Edenfer.9816:

Nice, I thought they only added new weapons with specializations.

Specializations include:

- 1 new weapon.
- New traits.
- 1 new healing skill.
- New utility skills.
- 1 new elite skill.
- ‘changed profession mechanics’

Don’t forget that specializations also lock you out of certain tools the base profession has so it doesn’t amount to a straight upgrade. So, in addition to gaining what you mentioned, you also lose something by specializing. They just haven’t elaborated on what those limitations are exactly.

Most guess at this point that we lose our 5th trait line to have it replaced by the specialization trait line. Other than that and the ‘change profession mechanics’ we have no details.

TheRandomGuy.7246:

New precursors better be obtainable with mystic toilet too.

They won’t be. Nor do I see why they should be.

Ok I Did It.2854:

Why change it now though, by not making them tradable it will allow those who have 10’s of 1000’s of gold to dominate the market when it come out what is needed, imagine if it does require the same MATs as current legendary’s and you have to farm for them now instead, people who can control the market can push them prices WAY up, it makes no sense to make 1 set tradable and 1 set not,

Not to mention that by making them non tradable they will hurt there own Gems – Gold market.

Absolute nonsense. They changed it since most people hate the current method and think the TP lessens any uniqueness or prestige legendaries have. And they are right. They should never have been on the TP in the first place. But they aren’t changing how the old ones work. You get one from drops or the mystic toilet? You are still free to put it on the tp. But you can’t do that with the new ones. It means that anyone that puts in the effort can get one and at the same speed. Not just people with deep pockets.

Just be honest and say that you hate not being able to get ahead of others by spending your money.

It would be nice if something was done. I loved Charr and their concept and lore. But their armor always looks horrible when compared to humans/norn/sylvari. I don’t know what needs to be done, but something does.

Well, it is in the game. Not really what I would pay money for personally.

At least it isn’t as bad as TERA. There is so much superfluous loot in TERA people literally would rather it rot on the ground than even bother picking it up. How bad do you have to get rewards when people don’t want most of it? GW2 isn’t quite as bad, but it’s pretty close. Useless garbage constantly gets thrown in our bags. The overwhelming majority isn’t even worth good money. Most of the effort of looting goes to sorting through all the trash in hopes of finding something worth more than 50s.

Loot should be exciting and rewarding, not a tedious drudgery that many would avoid if they could.

OP, you are insane and sadistic. And if I had to do that for every character? I wouldn’t buy the expansion and I would probably quit playing.

Brother Grimm.5176:

YOU DIED FROM SKRITT!!!!

I would have to consider it…..never bought one before.

Exactly what I was thinking! I actually laughed out loud when I first heard “You ran from skritt!” If they did a finisher that sounded like that, I would get it.

Lazaar.9123:

Ralanost.8913:

Lazaar.9123:

Ralanost.8913:

dobri.7820:

It’d be good to know if the new precursors will be still available true the old means of acquiring. And if they (the new precursors) will be tradable.

If you read the blog post you would know already. Yes, the old precursors can still be found via drops or the mystic toilet. The old precursors gained the current way will still be tradeable. Any precursors made with the mastery system will be account bound. The new legendaries will only be available through the mastery system, so neither they or their precursors will be available for trade.

Not quite, the old precursors that are crafted with the recipe obtained from the new system will be tradable.

" This final collection unlocks the recipe to craft the polished final iteration of the precursor. For all of our existing precursors, this is a tradable exotic weapon, but they will all be updated to use new skins that look much like the legendary weapons they’ll one day become. "

Yes, existing, as in current ones. Like ones in the game right now. Read it again.

No, existing refers to the legendaries and precursors that are not the new ones coming in Heart of Thorns, in the two paragraphs before that is specifically says the two tiers that build-up to the full precursor are untradable, but it says the precursor you craft with the recipe obtained from completing the final tier is a tradable exotic weapon.

As a reference that they have used the terminology in this way before, here is a quote from the mastery system blog.

“Master Legends: Train in legendary crafting to learn to create all existing legendary weapon precursors and new legendary weapon precursors introduced with Heart of Thorns.”

Well, then either the blog post is wrong or WP is.

Lazaar.9123:

Ralanost.8913:

dobri.7820:

It’d be good to know if the new precursors will be still available true the old means of acquiring. And if they (the new precursors) will be tradable.

If you read the blog post you would know already. Yes, the old precursors can still be found via drops or the mystic toilet. The old precursors gained the current way will still be tradeable. Any precursors made with the mastery system will be account bound. The new legendaries will only be available through the mastery system, so neither they or their precursors will be available for trade.

Not quite, the old precursors that are crafted with the recipe obtained from the new system will be tradable.

" This final collection unlocks the recipe to craft the polished final iteration of the precursor. For all of our existing precursors, this is a tradable exotic weapon, but they will all be updated to use new skins that look much like the legendary weapons they’ll one day become. "

Yes, existing, as in current ones. Like ones in the game right now. Read it again.

dobri.7820:

It’d be good to know if the new precursors will be still available true the old means of acquiring. And if they (the new precursors) will be tradable.

If you read the blog post you would know already. Yes, the old precursors can still be found via drops or the mystic toilet. The old precursors gained the current way will still be tradeable. Any precursors made with the mastery system will be account bound. The new legendaries will only be available through the mastery system, so neither they or their precursors will be available for trade.

Can’t wait to see how dead Dusk will look. Twilight without the soul and animations? That…is the whole blade.

@OP There will be the current legendaries we have now. They won’t change at all other than having the new option of how to make a precursor. The current method won’t change, just a new option added. They will also add completely new legendaries that you have to use the new method to make. We have no idea what the new ones look like and they will only have a few ready when HoT launches.

So OP wants to looks like a metallic space butterfly? Yeah, no thanks.

To those wondering, this is what the bass sounds like. It’s….pretty bad.