Guild Wars 2

Dhampyr.2104:

Jackums.3496:

We’ll lose to a Ranger, but that’s about it.

I don’t necessarily agree with this, although it’s just my personal experience. Fighting rangers, I just can’t kill them (pet rez being OP), but they spend nearly the entire fight in downed state until one of us breaks off. xD

I call that a win in my book, even if they don’t die. lol

umm with the majority of rangers who are kids that just want to use a longbow i find it rather amusing using reflet against them

mesmer blink into it, as soon as you click blick you teleport onto the loading screen its so cool

Lifewaster.5912:

I’ve heard some GS mesmers have success using a Sigil of Fire for flame blast aoes to tag.

The GS beam potentially hits 3 targets, so you have a chance to proc the aoe at any one of them.

youve got it this is what i do, target someone at 2/3rds to the back and fire will proc, use izerker aswell.

Phantasmal.5631:

I see what the OP is talking about, they just said it in a wrong manner. I joined a guild recently and it is full of newer people who joined the game. Unfortunately, these new players have an infatuation (ie kitten) for berzerker gear. I’ve grouped with a number of them in dungeons and they are TERRIBLE. They go down all the time and will always talk about their one instance of doing X amount of damage and how AWESOME they are. When someone tells them a different build and how to stay alive, they ignore all advice and continue to SUCK and will insist on joining dungeons thinking they are hot kitten. I’m sorry, but the dungeons run suck because people need to keep ressing you.

A lot of these characters play LIGHT armor classes. One still thinks that switching attunements is a bad idea and monsters have an innate elemental resist, which they don’t.

We have a couple of exceptional players in the guild and they totally rag on/hate this one person who easily carries the groups every time because he knows what he is doing, is not in zerker gear for obvious reasons and yet they think he is a n00b for not using zerker. Unfortunately, this person is way too nice to point out how much the other players suck. It’s so infuriating. I never party with these garbage players in my guild anymore since they are like infants and rage whenever they die, go down, or things don’t go their way since their skill level and understanding of their classes and dodge mechanics are so poor.

i do agree that new players seem to spam zerk gear, however im a zerk mesmer and i rarely die, if i see a dps mesmer in any other gear i will instantly think he hasnt got to the highest potential of survivabilty with his skills, only for mesmer though i cant say for the other classes

yes i agree with the above, dont blame the game because youd thought u’d be sneaky and skip the story mode, thats all your teams fault, i know 3 servers that literally have the event open 24/7, who doesnt do the story???

can we still do this event for a chance of pre? or is it still there without the MF buff im not sure :C

Osicat.4139:

There are some things that can help, but in the end I think it come down to what you specialist in. If you want to be fast and do speed roaming focus and or/ speed runes are needed, for this you give something up, dmg runes and pistol/torch/sword oh. You get stronger in speed but lack in some other area.

If you want to do superb range dmg in instances or wvwvw you specialize in this but give up defense versus fast moving melee.

I think that If you want to run a GS build in wvwvw you will have to accept that you have some weaknesses, even if you ofc get stronger in some areas. One weakness is that thief’s and even shatter memsers will focus on you as they benefit by stay close on you and go for you early in a group fight.

To counter this best way is accualy to play with other ppl, team up with some ppl and stay close to a guardian, if you get down have somone who can res you, tis while you kill ppl at range.

In 1 vs 1 ofc GS as phantasm is strong, but phatasm spec is faar from optimal in wvwvw and lack in many areas.

/Osicat

yeah i agree osicat :P but youre missing a vital,

people sword pistol is best for thieves, keep up that invulnerability and stack iduelist, albeit a smart thief will terminate your stacks give them retaliation so he will take damage no matter what, try to outstealth him while your stacking your phantasms, when he’s weak he’ll refuge, switch to greatsword and 5# knockback and watch them flee, the GS 1200 range will make mincemeat of them xD i deep down honestly have no trouble with thieves but i did have to roll one to 80 to understand them :C

Maul.3284:

Garr.1823:

Maul.3284:

@garr. I’m in T1 and it gets used quite a bit in WvW and in PVP. Not sure what server you’re on.

U can be in any server, but looks like u are newbie in GW2 =)

And yes, almost all mesmers will agree that Moa will be removed and switched to some mass pvp skill or phantasm or even powerfull mantra.

I definitely not a noob. I’m been playing GW2 on SOR server since release. I roam quite a bit picking off the tail end of zergs and engaging numbers greater than our size. I also PVP quite a bit. Yes MOA gets used on us alot. I guess when you can’t beat someone fairly you resort to moa.

Those of you saying that MOA hasn’t resulted in your death you obviously never play GW2.

hmm i have over 500 hours pvp on my mesmer and i can tell you, MOA sucks, why would anyone use it over timewarp in a 1v1 situation? it has the same cooldown xD i stick with mass invisibility as like yourself i go against zergs tailing them i need the target breaker, personally ive been hit with MOA transform and i lol, is it really that hard to hit 5? it evades and runs at the same time?!?!? besides its so obvious when its about to be used, ive gone against a mesmer and rolled it as its easier to look out for the animations, like others said, it seems you just need to l2p,
perhaps you can roll a mesmer and youll realise its not OP xD
if you consider yourself good then you should of rolled one of each class to learn them inside out

you get them by chance from 100% exploring an area, so go exploring with your friend

Assyrian.4827:

Ignigknawt.7869:

Assyrian.4827:

so you still think GW2 will have an expansion.
what I’m seeing is that Ncsoft trying to get as much cash from GW2 while there is still players playing.
now I don’t know for fact that the game is dying but like many others with big guilds that have 1 or 2 ppl still playing.
I think we will not see an expansion.
here is why:
GW2 sold 3 million copies.
most of that came from GW1fans (pvp game with some pve) which they lost them.
the game has core problems support/control/ condition damage…………………………..
no character progression no end game made a lot of ppl leave and will most likely not buy an expansion based on what they got .
now how many of the 3 million will still buy an expansion ?
I say the will be lucky to get 1 million.

What makes you think the people who quit won’t come back? If they get wind of an expansion they just might.

they might do it or go play wild star ,TESO………………………….

hey im one of the biggest TES fans known to man and i am honestly disgusted in what ESO is by the leaked footage, in my experience beta’s dont improve the game, so due to me being a fan of lore im simply buying the game and doing the story, THAT IS IT.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

^— On top of that it’s the publishers marketing team, rather than NCSoft itself, who forces this stuff. It is a small subset of a whole lot of groups that all have to work in conjunction with one another.
The Anet developers do a great job, they unfortunately have to answer to the money greedy overlords (there is one woman in particular who used to work at Nexon and is pretty much hailed as evil within the gaming world).

it really is a shame because i sympathise with them completely, i really appreciate thier skins but have purchased 0 RNG bozes to show how much i support the system unlike the idiots that buy them then complain, they will only listen if they dont make money -_-

Dawdler.8521:

You know why Arenanet are developers and you’re not? They wouldnt have forgotten the shoulder piece.

you know i really get tired of people blaming the developers, they are sick of hearing this from players,

Do you realise that it is NOT the developers that push for the RNG boxes at anet, its the publisher that pushes for this (NcSoft) if the anet developers go against what their bosses TELL them to do they will get fired, so please, these developers do an amazing job on the skins and the game, i can guarantee you that they are more upset than you that their amazing designs are trapped inside RNG boxes.

Enough said.

Vayne.8563:

Lunar Sunset.8742:

Harder content is always welcomed by most people, sure a few people might have troubles but everything is pretty easy to learn. I mean at release Arah/Lupi were impossible unless you were the best players in the game, now look at it, most pug teams can do it with minimal trouble.

As the difficulty scales in fractals most people play their guardians because that’s really the only truly viable profession for pug teams. If you play with a structured guild team you have no problem with 40+ fractals (and they are pretty easy for being the “hard” content).

Also, I would love to see the new content bosses have lower health and higher toughness to make condition builds viable.

I think you’ll find harder content isn’t welcomed by most people. That’s what devs have been saying for years, and it’s why content gets nerfed in almost every game.

Hard content IS 100% welcomed, it is only not welcomed when they make it forced (like to get new armour) however if they do new content such as hardcore dungeons that give better rewards this would definitely be welcomed

shimmerless.4560:

ilr.9675:

ProTip: The people who say he’s not so bad…. are using the Exploit that gets him stuck & stunned on the Geometry. Don’t do that. Lest you forget what happened to all the people who were exploitnig COF.

Well, you don’t have to pull him into anything and he’s still not that tough. One time in the first room I had a wipe with a PUG, and I managed to finish him off on my own, even though I was the only one alive in DPS gear, because all of his attacks are predictable and hugely telegraphed.

He’s a bit like Lupi in that he’s very much an either/or boss. Either you know how the encounter works or you don’t. In that sense I can agree the burden of knowledge is rather high but once you do have that knowledge, he becomes trivial.

yes path 1 and path 2 are very easily solo’able, even with dps gear but i highly doubt you solo’d him on path 3, his rock cone attack will hit you at least once or twice and with dps gear thats a one shot.

Viking Jorun.5413:

From a 3D character artist’s standpoint I can tell you this: most game engines use a network of joints that don’t contain IK Handles and are controlled ever so slightly via code which connects them to sliders. These joints, when moved, act as facial “muscles” and contort the face any which way the sliders will let you. From this standpoint, I’d assume that the 3D character artists at ArenaNet didn’t include joints in the mouth facial controls as to not interfere with the voice acting/lip syncing. The color of your eyebrows is connected to your hair because of what is probably a 3-channel dynamic texture map that uses one channel on the skin, one on the hair/eyebrows and one on the eyes since I assume due to resource packet control your client derives all of its textures for each character from one 1024×1024 diffuse map instead of far more resources which would further soak up ANet’s bandwidth. In my experience when you have a RGBA dynamic texture map you’re only allowed 3 customizable color areas and the alpha as transparency, which is most obviously seen in the hair polygons.

So there you have it. A very technical professional assumption of how ArenaNet’s character rigs interact with their homemade game engine.

you sound very intelligent but the eyebrows on human female dont change colour when you change the colour of their hair :S

my main point that ill like to add is that in tournements you dont see 7v5 or 1v4 its always equal. why?
Because then it is a fair competition,
why does WvW have leaderboards if it is not Fair, id like someone to respond to this and then tell me that the fix is not a good idea. id like valid reasons

zengara.8301:

RedCobra.7693:

zengara.8301:

RedCobra.7693:

Lord Trejgon.2809:

only thing in this thread that I would agree is fact that population difference problem need to be solved. somthing to make more skill>numbers in WvW.
but method that is sugested in this thread is worst of possibilities

ahhhhhh no one explains why or addresses my defense to the negatives towards it, is it too much to ask for, please im interested in to seeing why, im not going to get offended xD i want WvW working like a well oiled machine just as much as the next person, next to all my gw2 time is spent in WvW and its the population not being even that is the biggest issue, i personally see no other way to making it 100% fair

There are the go against other part of worlds like USA/Asian with the same timer and same population.

There are making the numbers so equal “like the buffs you get” that it gets more or less fair. Actually really good suggestions that have seriously gone so far into it to see how much dmg output the low populated server it could bring, and brought up the “bad part” basecly that 1v1 wont be an option in WvW anymore.

Probably alot of other good ways to make WvW fair

1v1 is a part of WvW, scouts and camp takers often go solo, i have seen this method done before in another game called Raiderz trust me when i say that the responses that were often said were not good, it was a complete and utter rubbish system, everyone i spoke to hated it,

we wont be going against american servers for a very long time or ever, they have network issues that prevent this they are probably using the ATM systems and these have different bandwidths between Europe and america so unless they completely upgrade their systems its not going to happen.

Still not a single person has told me why this technique is bad :S i want explanations please i want to hear why YOU the WvW player doesn’t think its a good idea. if you could tell me what server you’re from aswell maybe opinions differ from which population server you are in :P because so far it seems people from higher servers disagree, (which wont be affected anyway) and people from the lower servers are agreeing

The only reason why people dont like your idea, is that your making it non clear, nothing else.
people think that this is the perfect idea which you clearly arent meaning by it, you mean that this would be a great idea
AFTER Arena Net find the true solution of how to make servers equal.

I was in FoW, until right after RoF where we where against blacktide again? i switched to gunnars hold, they use team speak, great tactics that work, and no annoying guy 24/7 on map chat “you probably know who i am thinking about xD” (pvp/pve is great to btw)

I switched to Gunnars Hold, pretty happy about where i switched to.

To be honest, your idea are good, its was just missunderstood by everyone, nothing more than that.

But instead of making a thread of what to do after they make the server population fair, then make a idea how to make the server population fair o.o and call that the perfect WvW system or something

oh boy i know what your talking about, haha, but yes youre right its hard to get my point accross as id have to write a book :P, balancing the population would make it better yes but thats not what i mean, they simply need to sort vabbi and fow first as they have suffered shock, the caps would remove the entire notion of population difference from WvW.

ricky markham.8173:

RedCobra.7693:

ricky markham.8173:

Korrigan.4837:

RedCobra.7693:

Korrigan.4837:

I have to agree with the people who say that advertising a guild on general chat and asking for “skilled players” is a recipe for disaster, a good way to end with not only bad players but also a lot of kids with overinflated ego.

Personally, in my guild, we only take people who are pleasant to play with, even if they aren’t “zomg top skillz!”.

i personally dont keep people in my guild who are bad at the game and choose to stay that way, its simply the way my guild is, if someone is lacking i will put all my effort into helping them and finding out what they struggle with, im an elitist but i like to think that im one of the good examples, i plan on turning the guild into a WvW guild so i need everyone to be average in it, if not then i will help them, if i know they are going to try i will help, i dont help the people who want a free ride :P

but yeah i aggre with you, its people who advertise like that who are lazy and give “elitists” a VERY bad name.

Well I’m glad I’m not in your guild. I guess I don’t take video games seriously enough to behave like that towards fellow players, and even less towards fellow guild mates. And yet we don’t have any trouble tackling any of the content of the game, including WvW.

As I said, I rather be surrounded by pleasant people even if they aren’t the best players ever than by “skilled” ones who take games way too seriously and are not pleasant to play with. I play games to relax, not to manage a second job as guild leader to lead a sort of pseudo military organization in a game after I’m done with my real job.

When I remove someone from my guild (happened once so far since release, we have a good recruitment policy), it’s because he behaved badly and broke our few guild rules which mostly say “be nice”. Never because he’s less skilled than others. I’d hate myself if I ever did that.

i totally agree im glad im not in his guild and for the casualness of my guild makes me want to play more. it funny how the skill of a few can make a dungeon run faster then a group of 5 who supposably are skilled. happened the first time i ever did cof with guild mates. three of us didnt have a clue and followed. the mates commented how it was the quickest run they ever did and found out after several runs later they were right. i prefer a more social guild. as for advertizing doesnt a more casual guild advertize that not you must be fun top play with they state they are relaxed and casual

i believe from the comments youve made, you havnt read the whole post, did i at one point say that i have kicked anyone??? no so dont assume, it is my philosophy though, i have put so much effort to help the people in my guild, like i said i teach and introduce them to each aspect, i said i need them to be average, and at what point did i say that it was a military organisation xD im making it a WvW guild, but when it comes down to it, i want to have fun, its a little disrespectful even for the forums to say what you just did :S

you stated in your quote you dont keep people who dont get better. that sounds like to me you kick people who dont get better. now you state you keep this guy who doesnt get better gear. im sorry but dont make one comment then go back with another. im stating i dont care if people get better as long as i get along with them and have fun.

you comment like it makes you a better person, dont make me laugh, im stating that there is nothing wrong with wanting to better yourself, and no i havnt kicked a single person, ive helped every single one, i want them to get better, yes i did state that, but dont take away from the meaning, he is an amazing player and doesnt really need better gear but i will keep pushing as the better gear will make him better without him having to try.

Scrambles.2604:

RedCobra.7693:

Scrambles.2604:

gaspara.4079:

Zelyhn.8069:

I am not talking about boasting etc, I dislike skilled players who despise average players, but I like competition, I like to dream, I like to strive to be the best (in a healthy way), I like the fun and the motivation I get from being challenged! yet people hate me for my yearnings.

Elitism is not the problem here, what is wrong is averageism !!

I hate to have to be the one to tell you this, but calling people who are happy just playing and never getting better the problem is elitism. And for you to try and tell them how they should play is what is wrong.

I’m sorry if you don’t find this game challenging enough for you, but plenty of players do. If you need more challenge there are plenty of things you can do. Such as play with all whites or all greens or all rares, try a new class or a different build, try to accomplish something fairly difficult without dying or as a speed run, try to carry some of these less good players through some of the more difficult content, try to complete as many achievements as possible or find some other interesting way to handicap yourself so that you feel accomplished when you achieve something.

At the end of this game is what you make of it and trying to blame others for your grievances will only result in them pointing the finger back at you.

I’m not going to defend “elitists” but i do see a great deal of vocal players, who i guess we could call “purists.” People complain about lack of challenge, and “purists” come in crying elitism and telling you to stop complaining and enjoy the game and ignore your feelings of stagnation, or try playing with one hand tied behind your back.

IMO, the issue is with the way the content is designed (aka dungeons), all types of players will intermingle, unless you request a specific type of player through gw2lfg.com.

But since there is only one type of dungeon (exp) and no hard modes, raids, gated-content, what-have-you, the high-end, elitist players are still doing the same challenges that newer/casual players are doing. And when these players group together unknowingly, that when the issues surface.

At least in WoW, the elitists were kept seperate from everyone else, because they were focused on raids/hard-mode isntances that casuals didn’t have access, too, or couldn’t be bothered to put in that level of effort to compete at that level.

Neither style of play is wrong— but if two players are looking to get different things out of the game in the same content, you will begin to see a conflict.

This post nearly made me cry, its beautiful, neither is wrong.

Thank you. I appreciate the feedback. This insight actually came from someone esle on the forums—i’ll troll through my post history and update this to credit this source. Usually, people only reply to posts when they disagree, haha…so i couldn’t tell if mine got ignored or went without saying in the first place.

All the back and forth in this thread about “stop bragging!”…yeah it’s easy to nitpick the details of the post while ignoring the bigger issue.

pretty much this^

I like to bragg, not necassarily to people i dont know but to my friends and guildies who also play the game are like minded, they see my bragging as a challenge :P i have a few guildies who dont do the same and dont revel in competion i understand this and dont address them with such comments as i know they arent going to like it, but it comes with the role of being a guild leader i need to ensure that we are all friends, the problem with saying it in map chat is you address every single person possible.

zengara.8301:

RedCobra.7693:

Lord Trejgon.2809:

only thing in this thread that I would agree is fact that population difference problem need to be solved. somthing to make more skill>numbers in WvW.
but method that is sugested in this thread is worst of possibilities

ahhhhhh no one explains why or addresses my defense to the negatives towards it, is it too much to ask for, please im interested in to seeing why, im not going to get offended xD i want WvW working like a well oiled machine just as much as the next person, next to all my gw2 time is spent in WvW and its the population not being even that is the biggest issue, i personally see no other way to making it 100% fair

There are the go against other part of worlds like USA/Asian with the same timer and same population.

There are making the numbers so equal “like the buffs you get” that it gets more or less fair. Actually really good suggestions that have seriously gone so far into it to see how much dmg output the low populated server it could bring, and brought up the “bad part” basecly that 1v1 wont be an option in WvW anymore.

Probably alot of other good ways to make WvW fair

1v1 is a part of WvW, scouts and camp takers often go solo, i have seen this method done before in another game called Raiderz trust me when i say that the responses that were often said were not good, it was a complete and utter rubbish system, everyone i spoke to hated it,

we wont be going against american servers for a very long time or ever, they have network issues that prevent this they are probably using the ATM systems and these have different bandwidths between Europe and america so unless they completely upgrade their systems its not going to happen.

Still not a single person has told me why this technique is bad :S i want explanations please i want to hear why YOU the WvW player doesn’t think its a good idea. if you could tell me what server you’re from aswell maybe opinions differ from which population server you are in :P because so far it seems people from higher servers disagree, (which wont be affected anyway) and people from the lower servers are agreeing

Lord Trejgon.2809:

only thing in this thread that I would agree is fact that population difference problem need to be solved. somthing to make more skill>numbers in WvW.
but method that is sugested in this thread is worst of possibilities

ahhhhhh no one explains why or addresses my defense to the negatives towards it, is it too much to ask for, please im interested in to seeing why, im not going to get offended xD i want WvW working like a well oiled machine just as much as the next person, next to all my gw2 time is spent in WvW and its the population not being even that is the biggest issue, i personally see no other way to making it 100% fair

Ive added an FAQ to the post to address some concerns about the fix :) after some PM’s i recieved

RedCobra

zengara.8301:

zengara.8301:

yes you’re right, i would only have this implemented after a solution for the lower servers has been found, i don’t know how to suppose this yet, maybe they could let people know that they will implement it in say 6 months time and give server pop time to react, however not enough people actually know anything about WvW pop, did you know that most of the higher tiers near always hit their population caps, which means they wont be affected what so ever so like ive previously stated the only server that would be punished (if the low server fix isn’t implemented) is blacktide or arborstone, please (not aimed at you) i wish people would read before posting comments they just get in the way, if you believe it will punish players tell me how and support your point with either quotes from players from other servers or evidence.

Not to be mean or anything, but couldnt you make Madjon.2657 to write for you, if you know him in the game. The main reason is that you dont explain enough, its like you wrote this:
Yeah i want that implemented.
alot of severs arent going to be harmed, only blacktide or aborstone
People dont read throug everything that i wrote throug this, which i wish they could
And do everything to prove what your writing is true.
Is this right?^

Your asking me to collect data even thoug you dont, your asking me to support my points with quotes even thoug you dont.
Please edit for the love of god your main topic, you cant expect people to do all the job, and 100% not if your actually believing in this, edit it so its understandeble and doesnt get read like your tryieng to not let 50% of the blacktide population to come in.

This is still not the perfect system to WvW at all…..
first of all this is the after effect if WvW finds a solution to the low population servers vs the high,

second is more basic if you actualy want people to do their ground work, and bring you data, you probably have to show that your data is in place to and mainly edit what you wrote first since everyone wont read more than what you wrote first and prob 5 message down, and again, it isnt their/my job, it is fully yours to show “that this is how i see it, and this should be implemendet”

(you learn this in school btw, idk how far in your, but its important that YOU and only you show that your message is worth reading, since this is what you want in the game, you should probably be more into it, because right now, its just like you want everyone else to do the work whi)

The quote kinda failed their, but I do understand you, and this is fair, if the severs find a solution to the population issue to the main WvW problem (if the servers are put up like this 100 vabbi 120 fow 150 blacktide after the server solution.

Then this would be a pretty good reason to implement this, but again, editing your post so it doesnt seem like you actualy think that this is the perfect solution to make the actual WvW now work[/quote]

the initial responses seem to show distaste towards my thread title saying perfect, my mistake this was to attract attention to the post tbh, im aware that i havnt posted evidence for my claims, but the claims i am making are pretty known, as simple as pointing out that the sky is blue. shall i take a picture of the sky? xD some people eh :P

yeah youre right, the main fix would be to work out how to cushion the initial shock of implementing this fix. after that, as long as it is maintained WvW would be a beautiful place where we can revel in competition and measure server skill but until then ill be hearing this constantly:

“NO FAIR ROF HAVE SOOOO MANY PPL WE GET OWNED!!!”

Kootje.9271:

RedCobra.7693:

Kootje.9271:

“There is no need to boast of your accomplishments and what you can do. A great man is known, he needs no introduction.”
- CherLisa Biles

i dont like this qoute as it implies that if you need an introduction then you are not a great man, little bit mean :C

And then to think i looked so hard to find a nice quote that implies the following;

If ur good and skilled u don’t have to say it about urself, ppl will know. And cut me some slack, i’m not english, so for me this wasn’t a bad pick… :P

Zelyhn.8069:

Sure
I am not talking about boasting though, but keep up the off-topic discussion, it is interesting!

U don’t see it as boasting, majority does… However boasting would imply the player is skilled. So that in it’s own would be a compliment?

my bad no worries but yeah i guess youre right

Kootje.9271:

“There is no need to boast of your accomplishments and what you can do. A great man is known, he needs no introduction.”
- CherLisa Biles

i dont like this qoute as it implies that if you need an introduction then you are not a great man, little bit mean :C

Stark.1350:

The complaints thus far are absolutely mind boggling.

1.) Moa racing shouldn’t be part of the meta achievement.

Congratulations, it’s not! You only have to do 10/14 achievements, of which you have AN ENTIRE MONTH to do.

2.) The holo dragons in the lower zones breed competition and contempt.

It was like this during Halloween, Christmas and SAB. Same plan. But considering all the impatient people want to finish this in a day, it’s become a major issue. Once again, YOU HAVE AN ENTIRE MONTH. Let the crowds thin out and you’ll see the nodes sitting around doing nothing, like they have in every other event beforehand.

3.) RNG RNG RNG RNG RNG RNG RNG RNG

The biggest complaint I saw in Southsun was the fact that the crates off mobs didn’t drop enough. Now they drop off ANY WORLD MOB and now you have coffers being THROWN at you, in the hundreds and thousands, and you DON’T HAVE TO PAY A DIME. The RNG boxes have worked the same in EVERY OTHER HOLIDAY BEFOREHAND and if you’re a sucker enough to keep buying into them, then I have no hope for you as a human being. People are picking up hundreds IN A SINGLE DAY, and once again, THE EVENT LASTS FOR AN ENTIRE MONTH. The weapon skins DO NOT AFFECT YOU, in ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, so have some WILLPOWER and DON’T BUY THEM.

By god, ever since that “other MMO” started handing everything to everyone by just logging in, everyone thinks that’s how it should be now.

i agree with everything you said apart from one thing, how does it not affect me that i cant get the skins due to luck? becuase they are cosmetic? this game isnt about stats its about the cosmetics otherwise i wouldnt care

zengara.8301:

RedCobra.7693:

zengara.8301:

No offence, I was less than a week ago in FoW, switched because of the low population “not only WvW also pve”.
I dont like going offensive in a forum or games at all, but this thread is to childish.
I can somehow see that this maybe could be good, but your again cutting of alot of players from WvW which in the first place wasnt their foult they got up against a such low populated server as FoW or vabbi.
Yeah, the WvW needs a better system, but to even thumb this up, is a discrace. Think a way to get a better WvW system for everyone because this is only “perfect sytem”
for vabbi and FoW, which prob doesnt even hit the same amount of players in blacktide or RoS, so not in gaming or in business is this in anyway a perfect system…..

do you even know the population of the other servers, no you don’t so please don’t just throw random arguments around, i said the SITUATION NEEDS TO BE REGULATED FIRST, needed to capitalise that as you clearly have difficulty reading, stop pulling the straw-man argument.

“I offer one simple solution,
Cap the wvw player limit to the lowest population server, this way 100% of the time it is 100% FAIR, i just know that ROF would be beaten if we had the same numbers, it upsets me really.”

You need to edit what you wrote and write that this is a selution for how the severs can match up. Its still hard to understand, if it is how i read it, or atleast understood it, then you want the servers to be more equal since it will affect the WvW in a good way by “punishing” other servers they want to join small servers to get more fun out of it? Or is this just after Arena Net find a selution to the small populated servers?

If it is the first part, it still doesnt match up, they will be forced to pay 17 gold to enter to another server, which they might not want to, since they like the servers they are in, and that could lead to some people leaving the game.

Maybe it should be more of a giving things to thoese who want to go, in PvP if the teams are uneaven, everyone gets asked if they want to switch to the other team, by doing that they get a few more points.

If Arena Net gave something to thoese who want to switch server “ofc if to many people want to get this item/switch server, it will be random who goes” this will kinda sort the problem with servers, since it is optionally, and if a good item enough is brought it, it would be easy to make the servers equal in less than a day.

Thoug please edit what you posted, when read, it sounds like you want other servers to be somehow punished. (atleast for me)

yes you’re right, i would only have this implemented after a solution for the lower servers has been found, i don’t know how to suppose this yet, maybe they could let people know that they will implement it in say 6 months time and give server pop time to react, however not enough people actually know anything about WvW pop, did you know that most of the higher tiers near always hit their population caps, which means they wont be affected what so ever so like ive previously stated the only server that would be punished (if the low server fix isn’t implemented) is blacktide or arborstone, please (not aimed at you) i wish people would read before posting comments they just get in the way, if you believe it will punish players tell me how and support your point with either quotes from players from other servers or evidence.

Scrambles.2604:

gaspara.4079:

Zelyhn.8069:

I am not talking about boasting etc, I dislike skilled players who despise average players, but I like competition, I like to dream, I like to strive to be the best (in a healthy way), I like the fun and the motivation I get from being challenged! yet people hate me for my yearnings.

Elitism is not the problem here, what is wrong is averageism !!

I hate to have to be the one to tell you this, but calling people who are happy just playing and never getting better the problem is elitism. And for you to try and tell them how they should play is what is wrong.

I’m sorry if you don’t find this game challenging enough for you, but plenty of players do. If you need more challenge there are plenty of things you can do. Such as play with all whites or all greens or all rares, try a new class or a different build, try to accomplish something fairly difficult without dying or as a speed run, try to carry some of these less good players through some of the more difficult content, try to complete as many achievements as possible or find some other interesting way to handicap yourself so that you feel accomplished when you achieve something.

At the end of this game is what you make of it and trying to blame others for your grievances will only result in them pointing the finger back at you.

I’m not going to defend “elitists” but i do see a great deal of vocal players, who i guess we could call “purists.” People complain about lack of challenge, and “purists” come in crying elitism and telling you to stop complaining and enjoy the game and ignore your feelings of stagnation, or try playing with one hand tied behind your back.

IMO, the issue is with the way the content is designed (aka dungeons), all types of players will intermingle, unless you request a specific type of player through gw2lfg.com.

But since there is only one type of dungeon (exp) and no hard modes, raids, gated-content, what-have-you, the high-end, elitist players are still doing the same challenges that newer/casual players are doing. And when these players group together unknowingly, that when the issues surface.

At least in WoW, the elitists were kept seperate from everyone else, because they were focused on raids/hard-mode isntances that casuals didn’t have access, too, or couldn’t be bothered to put in that level of effort to compete at that level.

Neither style of play is wrong— but if two players are looking to get different things out of the game in the same content, you will begin to see a conflict.

This post nearly made me cry, its beautiful, neither is wrong.

Torpian.9142:

Hey team, another great player chiming in here. I’m also good at bowel movements, brushing my teeth, making my bed, eating, walking, watching TV (some people claim to be good at this, but I’m better), talking to people, posting on forums, turning on appliances, writing my name (I’m an expert at this actually), singing songs, watching clouds in the sky, fighting (I’m awesome at fighting, no one in the world could possibly defeat me), driving my car (I could be a nascar world champ if I wanted to), throwing a ball, sleeping (I get a better night’s sleep than anyone else I know), waiting for expansions to computer games I like (I have immense patience), socializing, picking up girls (yes, I’m better at this than you) – actually the list goes on and on and on – I’m just really, really good and it’s no wonder I’m especially good at GW2, probably the best player that has ever played this game.

the sarcasm is strong with this one

Onis.2418:

I can understand why some people feel that elitists are not liked and people don’t really appreciate good skills. However, from my experience I would say that often times the “good players” tend to have a bad way of expressing themselves.

On many occasions I’ve seen the “more advanced” players tell newbies to get better equipments while on a dungeon run, which usually indicates that the newbie doesn’t care about his equipment… while it should be pretty obvious the newbie is there, in that dungeon, to get himself some equipment. Often times they just show a lack of understanding of what it is to be “new”.

Overall it’s often the tone of the text these elitists use, as if the newbie was there purposefully making the dungeon worse by not wearing better armor. In the first post I’d say people are reading the same tone. For example the sentence: “People do not want to see or be aware of the fact that some players can be more skilled than them” shows that the OP lacks understanding of others – instead of wondering if the fault is in him or giving any deeper thought to why people react as they do, he simply puts the fault in others.

Likewise he continues to insult other people’s gamestyle by saying “stale and boring gameplay additions rather than diverse and challenging content”, adding that: “the ’amateurs” have no such dreams, worse: they do not want to face the fact that being better is possible".

If you can’t go halfway for other people, they rarely do it for you either.

hmm yes you have to be careful with words especially in pug groups, i have a guildie who has played in my guild for a long time, im the leader and have pushed for him to get dungeon gear but he simply has no desire, confusing i know :P but this guy is incredibly talented in wvw hence the reason i want him to have the best possible chances but at his current skill level i have 0 reason to complain, he organises events well and he is friendly to new guild members, i rarely see him get downed in dungeons tbh aswell.

ricky markham.8173:

Korrigan.4837:

RedCobra.7693:

Korrigan.4837:

I have to agree with the people who say that advertising a guild on general chat and asking for “skilled players” is a recipe for disaster, a good way to end with not only bad players but also a lot of kids with overinflated ego.

Personally, in my guild, we only take people who are pleasant to play with, even if they aren’t “zomg top skillz!”.

i personally dont keep people in my guild who are bad at the game and choose to stay that way, its simply the way my guild is, if someone is lacking i will put all my effort into helping them and finding out what they struggle with, im an elitist but i like to think that im one of the good examples, i plan on turning the guild into a WvW guild so i need everyone to be average in it, if not then i will help them, if i know they are going to try i will help, i dont help the people who want a free ride :P

but yeah i aggre with you, its people who advertise like that who are lazy and give “elitists” a VERY bad name.

Well I’m glad I’m not in your guild. I guess I don’t take video games seriously enough to behave like that towards fellow players, and even less towards fellow guild mates. And yet we don’t have any trouble tackling any of the content of the game, including WvW.

As I said, I rather be surrounded by pleasant people even if they aren’t the best players ever than by “skilled” ones who take games way too seriously and are not pleasant to play with. I play games to relax, not to manage a second job as guild leader to lead a sort of pseudo military organization in a game after I’m done with my real job.

When I remove someone from my guild (happened once so far since release, we have a good recruitment policy), it’s because he behaved badly and broke our few guild rules which mostly say “be nice”. Never because he’s less skilled than others. I’d hate myself if I ever did that.

i totally agree im glad im not in his guild and for the casualness of my guild makes me want to play more. it funny how the skill of a few can make a dungeon run faster then a group of 5 who supposably are skilled. happened the first time i ever did cof with guild mates. three of us didnt have a clue and followed. the mates commented how it was the quickest run they ever did and found out after several runs later they were right. i prefer a more social guild. as for advertizing doesnt a more casual guild advertize that not you must be fun top play with they state they are relaxed and casual

i believe from the comments youve made, you havnt read the whole post, did i at one point say that i have kicked anyone??? no so dont assume, it is my philosophy though, i have put so much effort to help the people in my guild, like i said i teach and introduce them to each aspect, i said i need them to be average, and at what point did i say that it was a military organisation xD im making it a WvW guild, but when it comes down to it, i want to have fun, its a little disrespectful even for the forums to say what you just did :S

Mattargul.9235:

RedCobra.7693:

its difficult to distinguish between pride and boasting (…)

Pride is something you have.
Boasting is something that requires other people. If you boast in the forest and no one hears you how many baby cats were given?

The premise of the OP is that people hate you for talent and the example he gives is that someone in LA shouts “I’m a good player.” and gets murdered. Wrong. They don’t hate you for being a good player they hate you for boasting to be a good player.

Some people can be happy in their knowledge/belief that they are a good player. Some people need other people to feel good about themselves.

i hope a dont get flame for this but i think im going to be honest and say that i need other people to know xD i want to get noticed on the game, however unlike a lot of people i understand there is a right way and a wrong way of doing this.

But to address your first point, i dont believe that is exactly true Im missing the right words to use but the word boasting has gathered negative connatations and has for a while, im aware that it means to show excessive pride but i do believe its about showing control and finding a balance, i personally find enjoyment from being congratulated, who doesnt?

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Castaliea.3156:

TL;DR:

Go back and read it because it’s obvious you need to.

That’s the really funny part, because he wrote it. Either he doesn’t quite know what he wants to say, or he doesn’t know how to say it. Because what he’s trying to get at, and what he’s actually say are not the same thing.

hey cmon man he’s still a human :P please dont snowball him, i always try to read the comments with a light heart, i can see where the OP is coming from, i believe what he is trying to say is that the whole feel to gw2 is that skill is trying to be removed from the equation and tbh excluding spvp he’s right, even in wvw it isnt pure skill due to the population unbalance issue

Facepunch.5710:

RedCobra.7693:

kitten thats some fine analytical skills, you should be a lawyer :P

lol thanks, I guess. As I said, I wasn’t trying to overanalyze or nitpick about his wording, I just read stuff under the assumption that the author has taken care to word things according to the points he’s trying to communicate, and when I reply, it will be according to the points that were communicated, that’s all.

I’m not a lawyer =) I’m not going to mention my job because I have done that in games/forums in the past and I’ve been flamed like mad by people who think I’m lying, so I guess it must be a pretty cool job =P

haha no problem, its just that you left no room for counter arguments which means that it was a perfect debating response, okay now i want to know your job title xD
ill start, im an IT technician and proud, but not boasting just showing pride hehe

Korrigan.4837:

I have to agree with the people who say that advertising a guild on general chat and asking for “skilled players” is a recipe for disaster, a good way to end with not only bad players but also a lot of kids with overinflated ego.

Personally, in my guild, we only take people who are pleasant to play with, even if they aren’t “zomg top skillz!”.

i personally dont keep people in my guild who are bad at the game and choose to stay that way, its simply the way my guild is, if someone is lacking i will put all my effort into helping them and finding out what they struggle with, im an elitist but i like to think that im one of the good examples, i plan on turning the guild into a WvW guild so i need everyone to be average in it, if not then i will help them, if i know they are going to try i will help, i dont help the people who want a free ride :P

but yeah i aggre with you, its people who advertise like that who are lazy and give “elitists” a VERY bad name.

Zelyhn.8069:

RedCobra.7693:

ahh guilds, now this is my area, im going to assume you are a GL, why would you want to invite people to your guild that think they are worthy? it would attract the worng type of people, i personally look at all players, one of my best guildies i met when they were lvl 3 in queensdale and i played for about 4hours with them, i trained them and introduced them bit by bit to each aspect of the game, now he is one of my go to guys for dungoens, better than i am lol (uh-oh self-recognition xD) but in seriousness my point is you shouldn’t pre-judge people as they might just be better than you yet you dont know it yet.

In fact I never advertise directly for my guild, at least not in open chat.
I usually talk about a friendlist of skilled players. I like to talk extensively to people who whisper to me in order to see if they share my philosophy of the game, and then I may friendlist them. When I can I would run dungeons with these people, but I never talk about recruiting people early on.
I think this is a respectful approach, and I see it as the only way to find other good players (apart from the lucky random PU run).
This method has worked a number of times, but the amount of people getting offended by it is astonishing. I came here to try and understand why

you see zelyhn this is your problem that youre having, you state things that imply that they are from personal experience,

“Z: “Guild with skill requirement recruiting good players”
A: Oh look, it’s Madz, the super good softcore elitist team, how can I prove that I’m worthy?
B: Madz are recruiting, I hope I’ll make it – test me, test me.
C: Oh I’ll give everything for the privilege to be in that guild, but they have skill requirements and I don’t think I’m good enough.
D: Master! Please teach me to be good!”

the way i read this is that you were stating this is what you do, my mistake if i took it the wrong way but if so i look at these guild and assume its some kid who’s thinking he’s high and mighty after grinding a hundred or so hours,

also dungeons dont always represent skill, it does frustrate me sometimes when i see ppl getting kicked because they dont know the tricks, it hurts me as those tricks destroy the game,

ps. the dungeon comment isnt directed at you lol its just something of an opinion in a measurement of skill.

Facepunch.5710:

Zelyhn.8069:

Everything I say is “only my opinion” and should only be considered as such. This is obvious enough that I do not have to mention it every sentence I hope.

No, you don’t have to state it in every sentence, but you should state it at least the first time you make an assertion about the community.

From your OP:

People do not want to see or be aware of the fact that some players can be more skilled than them (no boasting, just statement of skill).

^ This is stated as if it is a fact, not something you believe to be true or have a feeling about.

Zelyhn.8069:

It is also the same on the forums.

^ Stated as fact.

Zelyhn.8069:

I believe this is not benefiting the game in itself because it promotes stale and boring gameplay additions rather than diverse and challenging content.

^ Here is where you open up discussion by stating your opinion on the facts you’ve presented.

Zelyhn.8069:

With all due respect, why the discrimination?

^ Here is where you ask for others’ opinions. Asking ‘Why the discrimination?’ is not the same as asking ‘Do you feel there is any discrimination?’

Again, I’m not trying to nitpick, but you began by making statements about the community and then asking why we as a community behave that way, not whether we as the community have seen these types of behaviors or attitudes toward skilled players.

kitten thats some fine analytical skills, you should be a lawyer :P

marnick.4305:

Vol.5241:

There is no such thing as talent in MMOs (not including sPvP)

The only thing that you need in MMO’s is fast reaction times.

Given that most MMOs have something like Global Cooldown or Aftercast Delay, even that isn’t necessary. In the average MMO you’ve got 1.5 seconds to think your next action through. If that ain’t enough, you’re not worthy of the term “gamer”.

Most MMOs only care about gear, time and knowing the mechanics. In GW2 it’s mostly mechanics that’s important.

hmm im going to have to disaggree, alot of the gear i use with my mesmer build i have spent countless hours producing, its not about getting a full set its about balancing to your abilities between damage and defense, this is why i lov the gear system as you get all the time in the world to figure it out, skill is definitly needed in wvw,

im not boasting just simply tell me how you would handle a 4v1 if say they are all warriors? whatever response you reply with will be your tactics and tactics can be considered your skill at determining the situation

Zelyhn.8069:

Rouven.7409:

Z: “Guild with skill requirement recruiting good players”

A: Oh look, it’s Madz, the super good softcore elitist team, how can I prove that I’m worthy?
B: Madz are recruiting, I hope I’ll make it – test me, test me.
C: Oh I’ll give everything for the privilege to be in that guild, but they have skill requirements and I don’t think I’m good enough.
D: Master! Please teach me to be good!

Is this seriously the kind of reaction you are expecting? You might be a good gamer, you might be the best, maddest gamers that solo’s 25 man raids – but you don’t seem to be good with people.

You seem to assume that I am looking for recognition.
This is merely a guild advertisement and should only be considered as such.

the only kind of reaction I am expecting is a whisper for more information if someone is interested, otherwise ignoring my advert would be the norm

But it is not what is happening, hence my OP.

ahh guilds, now this is my area, im going to assume you are a GL, why would you want to invite people to your guild that think they are worthy? it would attract the worng type of people, i personally look at all players, one of my best guildies i met when they were lvl 3 in queensdale and i played for about 4hours with them, i trained them and introduced them bit by bit to each aspect of the game, now he is one of my go to guys for dungoens, better than i am lol (uh-oh self-recognition xD) but in seriousness my point is you shouldn’t pre-judge people as they might just be better than you yet you dont know it yet.

what about pride and boasting for competitions between friends, you have got the boasting to public down to a t and i agree with you but youre not seeing the full picture
@shiningsquirrel

Lighter.5631:

too bad, this game is too easy, and no matter how good you are, you aren’t getting anything out of it, except maybe PvP.

i saw this at the start and became a WvW player, not that it doesnt fulfil the skill needs but it doesnt give any recognition to players outside wvw, maybe a guild cape that upgrades the better your guild does in wvw or maybe a WvW sword that upgrades look the more wxp you get.

Vol.5241:

There is no such thing as talent in MMOs (not including sPvP)

The only thing that you need in MMO’s is fast reaction times.

wow lol im in FOW if you ever duel lets put our reactions to the test xD

Facepunch.5710:

Zelyhn.8069:

Facepunch.5710:

RedCobra.7693:

…id say that 100% of the praise i have recieved from being skilled has never come from me telling someone, its because they either instanced with me and wanted to add me or dueled me in wvw

This comment in conjunction with my own experiences in game (not saying I’m skilled, I mean when I play with people who are clearly more skilled than I) reinforces my opinion that there isn’t rampant “talent hate” in this community.

If I’m in Arah and my group nearly wipes on Lupi in P3, but we have one guy who stays up, handles Lupi’s aggro, and gets someone else up and we recover, I recognize that he needed skill to do that and I appreciate him for it.

Same in WvW when following a skilled commander.

I just don’t see where this idea that people dislike skilled players comes from, so it’s easiest to assume that your experiences are coming from players picking up on an attitude from you that you are more skilled than they are. You may not have that attitude, and I may be wrong. But in that case please explain what your experiences are that led you to post this, because the points you’ve made so far don’t resonate with me at all.

Why should players feel bad about the fact that some players are better than them?

Feel bad about themselves you mean? Where have you seen this in the game? Guildies or friends getting down on themselves when they make mistakes? Of course there will be some self-deprecation, possibly jokingly, possibly serious, when someone doesn’t perform well. I don’t see this as specific to GW2’s community. I also don’t see it as even close to the way you’ve framed this thread as “The hate for talent.”

its difficult to distinguish between pride and boasting there is a slight difference however the intentions are different so it recieves completely different responses from the public,
i work hard for the achievments i recieve so it is only normal that i would like to be recognised for them so i try to be careful in how i go about it.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

RedCobra.7693:

Zelyhn.8069:

Please read the OP accurately, and do not make this discussion about whether I am a bad person for having made such post but more about the behaviour of the community.
Read my replies and you will understand that there is no reason to make it personal

i think you should retract the “shout out in lions arch” bit though its giving the wrong impression, you have to remember that people dont read the comments the see the OP and jump in with the flame responses, while i agree that there isnt enough content for skilled players id say that 100% of the praise i have recieved from being skilled has never come from me telling someone, its because they either instanced with me and wanted to add me or dueled me in wvw

I agree, maybe the removal of that line (especially as an example) would help.

I’ve had much the same experience when it comes to skill praise. The compliments and such that I have received while playing (in Gw1 and Gw2) have always come unprompted. People that have noticed my title, and then tag along. Places where I jump in to help out just because I’m bored. Players I’ve done dungeons and other instanced content with. Etc etc. I’ve never claimed to be a good player (and never will, cause I don’t think I am), but others seem to think so (although I think they’ve been smacked upside the head a few too many times in order to come to that conclusion lol).

and there is nothing wrong with modesty xD i have a guildie who is amazing but she is the most modest person in the world, sometimes i want to just scream.

the problem is gw2 doesnt offer anyway to Subtlely boast with items so people resort to shouting, how can i boast about solo’ing lupi in game, you cant, gw2 needs to cater to this audience as it causees unrest in players in the current situation as seen in this thread

Zelyhn.8069:

RedCobra.7693:

cherrie.8907:

Tywin Lannister:

Any man who must say “I am the king” is no true king.

If you have to boast, you probably can’t prove it, most people can pick up on that.

to answer the OP’s post though id say its just like sarcasm on the internet, you cant use it if you dont know them as they will take it the wrong way, just like i can see is happening on this thread atm.

True that, but it wasn’t even sarcasm: just because I said “try it” people assumed I do it. It’s called reading accurately!

i was referring to boasting though it can be taken the wrong way even more than sarcasm can you have to be careful who you do it to, honestly if i saw someone in LA saying im good at the game, id probably peek interest and ask to instance with them, maybe they would be a potential helper in the future but with that kind of broadcasting i wouldn’t have them in my guild

hey cherrie, i could probably boast and proove it but i wont know for sure until ive got to know the person im dealing with, part of advancing your skill is knowing your strengths and weaknesses, if i dont know im good at something then i wont being using it to my advantage, im an avid wvw’er so i need to know where i excel to exploit it and work on what got me killed

cherrie.8907:

Tywin Lannister:

Any man who must say “I am the king” is no true king.

If you have to boast, you probably can’t prove it, most people can pick up on that.

to answer the OP’s post though id say its just like sarcasm on the internet, you cant use it if you dont know them as they will take it the wrong way, just like i can see is happening on this thread atm.

Zelyhn.8069:

Please read the OP accurately, and do not make this discussion about whether I am a bad person for having made such post but more about the behaviour of the community.
Read my replies and you will understand that there is no reason to make it personal

i think you should retract the “shout out in lions arch” bit though its giving the wrong impression, you have to remember that people dont read the comments the see the OP and jump in with the flame responses, while i agree that there isnt enough content for skilled players id say that 100% of the praise i have recieved from being skilled has never come from me telling someone, its because they either instanced with me and wanted to add me or dueled me in wvw

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Jack of Tears.9458:

What I hate is people what decide how good a player you are based on your class. Yer playing a Ranger? Horrible player (because your class is bad, you are bad!). Playing a Thief? Horrible player (because we don’t like your class, you are bad!). Playing a Guardian and you’re fantastic, everyone loves you and you’re the best thing since sliced cheese.

/Agree

So kitten annoying. This goes right back to the conform or gtfo mentality that some of us are trying so hard to discourage.

I say don’t judge anyone until you’ve played with them, (unless you just don’t like their personality) because I find alotta people what claim to be average are pretty good players and alot that claim to be super are showboaters what run off and leave the party to play without them. But you never know until you give ’em a chance.

So much this. ^^

wasnt so long ago that i thought rangers were bad in 1v1’s i always aproached them as a mesmer with a smile on my face,
i recently got a name for myself among ROF players for being ruthless in 1v1, it was going well but i was thrown to the ground and put in my place by an amazing ranger, he was honestly the best i had ever seen, we threw comments at each other but they were all friendly, the challenge seeker i am i kept redueling even though i lost time after time, think it was about 6 duels before i gave up, well at least i can say i didnt EVER judge people before knowing them from then on

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

RedCobra.7693:

i dont think anyone is understanding the OP’s point,
he is referring to the skill that you compare with fellow challenge seekers, healthy competition likewise,
i do the same thing, if im friendly with someone and ive skyped them before ill teae them about something they dont have, its what makes you want to get unique items, it all links,
He is NOT refferring to going up to new players and laughing in theyre facing because they are still coming to terms with the game.
Read before commenting or you just look ignorant

Then he shouldn’t have lead with ‘go into LA and say you’re a good player’ and see what happens. Of course, you’re going to get jumped on. It’s not that people aren’t, or don’t want to be, aware that they are other, more skilled players than them in the game. It’s that they dont necessarily want it rubbed in their face. Only kittenholes do that, and walking into a town and announcing ’I’m a good player’ is going to precieved as exactly that.

Perhaps it was a bad example, but that’s precisely what I got from the initial post.

lol true i think its just badly worded but lets not flame him xD let him defend himself