Guild Wars 2

Cosmic.6047:

Ruprect.7260:

I say dissolve tier 8 into the other 7 tiers of servers. Close the 3 servers completely and make everyone transfer to a new server for free. Then we do not have to see these threads anymore.

That’s silly. The only thing it would do is to transfer the T8 problems to T7.
The problems are magnified in T1 and T8.

How would it transfer the problem. Lol T7 is one of the closest matches right now.

Mad Rasputin.7809:

Another ‘ignorant’ response about an actual problem that someone evidently doesn’t really comprehend and their only suggestion is to leave the servers to die, and crowd the other servers more.

The problem is more than just T8, it is just a bigger problem with T8.

No, my tier is fine leave it alone.

I say dissolve tier 8 into the other 7 tiers of servers. Close the 3 servers completely and make everyone transfer to a new server for free. Then we do not have to see these threads anymore.

It’s because ppl are figuring out if you run well necros and hammer warriors in a WvW zerg you are nearly unstoppable. Everyone already has a warrior so…

Everyday I run into full zergs of nothing but hammer warriors/well necros/and a few confusion mesmers. I have heard reports of zergs being made up of nothing but well necros as well.

Necros are less than impressive alone or in a group of other classes but a full zerg of well necros is stupid op.

Luciusbrimstone.7925:

Clearing up a few things:

We recruit via gw2lfg and are always clear about how we’re doing our run. The two main points are we’re not skipping monsters and we’re not glitching. That’s the first time these things are mentioned, and they’re mentioned again before we enter the instance. If someone does either of those things, we clarify again that we’re not doing them. It’s usually around this point, around the start of a run, that people argue with us about it (as in, yelling and telling us we’re wrong) or do it anyway. This is also the point that we remove people, around the start of the run.

Unless someone is being extremely — extremely — obnoxious, we won’t remove them in the middle of a dungeon. Almost always the people are removed between dungeon runs (we post that we’re doing multiple). Of course that isn’t 100% of the time, maybe 10~% of people we kick are being ridiculous.

Other than those two major points, we don’t really care what you do. It’s just when you’re doing a ton of those things on the list to the point that we ask you to stop and you continue to do it that we remove you afterwards. That’s it, no biggie. I’m really against people being thrown out of a group midway into a dungeon.

At any point if someone is doing something we/I don’t approve of we/I try to resolve it. For example, timewarp: oh hey, this guy threw time warp on himself, away from the monster. I’ll send him a message asking if he doesn’t mind moving up and throwing it on the rest of the party. If he ignores me, whatever. If he changes his style, great. If he argues with me, well in this case I’m just like whoa, but I’ll at least hear out his side of the argument.

As such I don’t view this as an obstacle course of requirements to join our group. Personally I don’t have expectations of anyone, I just kind of hope they’re not rude.

This makes much more sense. They way you worded your OP made it sound like a checklist of follow these or be kicked. This post makes you sound reasonable.

CrabMan.6839:

Say I was invited into some guild where I didn’t participate in guild life a lot but still I have access to the guild bank. Could it be bannable or however else punishable by support and considered scamming or something else if I took all the moneys and items and left the guild?

This has to be a troll. This is a surefire sign of sociopathic behavior.

Dresden.1736:

How do people tell they are partied with a bot?

Some bot are really easy to spot. They just follow and when you hit enemies they usually do the exact same thing in every encounter. They will run up to the enemy and just auto attack, or I have seen some that will actually run the same 3 or 4 skills over and over again.

WTF. I not cant what understand this anything OP.

Lol, with so many rules maybe you should just make your guild 2 ppl bigger and post them for everyone.

There are no rules when you PuG, it could go either way. There are some common courtesies yes.

What you should do is post these to the PuGs before you start every run LOL. And see what they do and post back with the results. My guess is you will be running them with your 3 members.

Ha, that’s funny. I never even thought about it but it would be totally possible for a guild to have a presence on 2 competing servers and be able to all be in voice chat together dominating the 3rd server.

Lol!

I didn’t even read past the fist few posts because threads like this are so ridiculous. Dude, you don’t have to do them, you are not punished for not doing them. The time you spend not doing them probably earns you the same few silver you would have got had you done it.

Keep these threads up and we won’t even have to log in to get the daily done. Everyday on reset you will just get some silver/coins/karma even if you are not on. It will just be piled up in your bags the next time you log in.

Zephyrus.9680:

In any game I’ve played where it’s possible to grief and ruin things for everyone else, you can and should report for it. This just seems like common sense to me but I was curious so I went and googled it:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/

21. You may use the Guild Wars 2 reporting system within the Game to alert the company to in-game issues such as inappropriate behavior, offensive names, the perceived use of a “bot,” or other misconduct. […]

22. While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.

Huh. Thanks for this. I am going to try to contact the guild before I do anything though. If I don’t hear from them or I see this person doing it again I will defenitely report this in more detail than just a report for botting.

Ya lag was terrible last night. Even when no one was around I was having trouble getting skills off. It also looked like the dalyaks were having a tough time with the lag. The would just stop for like 10 seconds sometimes on the road for no reason, no one around.

CHIPS.6018:

Actually spying and sabotage is 100% legal. Since it is on an alternative account you have no way to link it to that player’s original account. Since you cannot ban someone for “playing dumb”, you cannot ban spies and saboteurs.

It is unfortunate but it is what it is.

Kaining???, are you sending sabateurs/spies at us…lol…jk

Being there is no way to prove it, I guess we will just deal. I am not even sure if this guy was a spy/saboteur or just a troll.

Isaac.6041:

Ruprect.7260:

Thanks, thats all I needed to know. This guy was taking the exact same route to each objective and starting worthless upgrades, building exactly 2 golems at the camp. He would start at the camp and build 2 golems, go to the keep and start a worthless upgrade, go to the next camp and start an upgrade. Then go back to the fist camp and build 2 more golems and start the exact same route over and over.

I think it was a bot but can’t be sure. He must have wasted a ton of gold with all of the golems/upgrades he was doing. All it did was make for a frustrating time with no supply on reset night.

He also would not respond to any whispers. Usually if someone is doing something like building a shrine or something they will tell you to leave them alone, I can play the way I want. Which that is fine with me. But no response after like 20 whispers asking what we should do with the golems, I will report you if you dont stop, and so on seems odd to me.

If there is no rule against it then I guess we just deal with it. We will find a way around it.

I wasn’t going to report anyone, I was just asking.

Well you could report them for botting if you think it’s highly likely they are a bot. Just remember ArenaNet has that warning about false report so take that into consideration.

Is it a bot or is it a stubborn player that wants to buy upgrades that might seem worthless to you but are of value to him or her?

Well at least he’s building golems, you could move them somewhere and save them for later. And that’s the thing with golems, they are community property so whoever jumps into one can do as they please with it even when others beg them to get out etc…

Yeah, I don’t want to report someone unless I was sure they were botting, and I am not 100% sure. We did use the golems jus to get rid of them.

Appreciate the responses, guess we will see if this guy does it again. I am going to try to cantact this persons guild though.

Thanks, thats all I needed to know. This guy was taking the exact same route to each objective and starting worthless upgrades, building exactly 2 golems at the camp. He would start at the camp and build 2 golems, go to the keep and start a worthless upgrade, go to the next camp and start an upgrade. Then go back to the fist camp and build 2 more golems and start the exact same route over and over.

I think it was a bot but can’t be sure. He must have wasted a ton of gold with all of the golems/upgrades he was doing. All it did was make for a frustrating time with no supply on reset night.

He also would not respond to any whispers. Usually if someone is doing something like building a shrine or something they will tell you to leave them alone, I can play the way I want. Which that is fine with me. But no response after like 20 whispers asking what we should do with the golems, I will report you if you dont stop, and so on seems odd to me.

If there is no rule against it then I guess we just deal with it. We will find a way around it.

I wasn’t going to report anyone, I was just asking.

Is it against the rules for someone to have a second account and use it to spy on/sabotage a rival WvW server? If so how would one go about reporting this type of activity?

I don’t even know how you could prove it even with fraps. Do you just accept that this person will burn all of your supply at every camp/tower/keep every night or what and try to fond uses for it before they do?

Pervin.5036:

Just wanted to say the past 3 or so hours have been epic in FABL with the pushes from KA and TC on garrison. Thankfully, the closest time we thought we would lost it, your groups ran into one another and while you fought on the walls, it gave us time to get up our dead.

Great start to what I hope will be an awesome week of battles.

Agreed, I was there I can’t believe you guys were able to keep it. GG, holding us all out.

We were soooo close a number of times.

Can someone from Carnised Toast [Yum}, pls pm me.

naphack.9346:

Ruprect.7260:

naphack.9346:

The current matchmaking system is flawed. The reasons are widely known, so I won’t put much effort into explaining why.
First off, the system will cause “tier islands” to form. 3 servers will be dragged into an endless slugfest unless a server comes in from the outside. With the server transfers now being shut off, the tiers will only solidify more and more. Especially tier 8 servers are being stuck in this because for them, the only change they can hope for is for some server to drop down from the higher rankings.

snip.

This would only help T8. Alot of the other tiers are having good matches at the moment. This would mean 2 weeks out of the month the fist and third place server would roflstomp/get destroyed. How would that be fun.

EditL:

Honestly at this point I wish this would happen for a week so HoD could move down roflstomp the kitten out of T8 and we can move on past these threads. There will be no more wondering.

Just sayin, I’m not even a t8 player.
Just thought, this change might help actually comparing the servers…
And if the t8 guys get crushed… At least, they got no right to complain anymore, right?
win-win. The t8 whining will stop either way, while servers get some more incentive to actually win a week’s match.

And honestly, your second sentence just made me realize, you didn’t read my post anyway, as it is only one match per month that will be scrambled up a bit.

Maybe I misunderstand, I thought what you were saying was that the first and last match of the month would be changed and the 2 in between would stay the same. So ex. first in T5 would go up to T4 and vice versa. They would play it out and week 2 would go on as it was before the change. Then the last week thay would switch and the next month would start off with the average of the ranking for the month.

But now re reading I see I was way off base.

Either way, based on personal experience. We would have blowout matches once a month then. This really would do nothing other than switch up the matches for the worse for a week.

naphack.9346:

The current matchmaking system is flawed. The reasons are widely known, so I won’t put much effort into explaining why.
First off, the system will cause “tier islands” to form. 3 servers will be dragged into an endless slugfest unless a server comes in from the outside. With the server transfers now being shut off, the tiers will only solidify more and more. Especially tier 8 servers are being stuck in this because for them, the only change they can hope for is for some server to drop down from the higher rankings.

snip.

This would only help T8. Alot of the other tiers are having good matches at the moment. This would mean 2 weeks out of the month the fist and third place server would roflstomp/get destroyed. How would that be fun.

EditL:

Honestly at this point I wish this would happen for a week so HoD could move down roflstomp the kitten out of T8 and we can move on past these threads. There will be no more wondering.

Ima gonna bump this because there seems to be a shortage on the front page today. I only see 3!!!

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Ruprect.7260:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Ruprect.7260:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Kay.5416:

I like SF.

FCers, put down your hayforks and torches and listen. You can keep the bonfire going though, that is kind of cozy.

I started in WVW this Monday and have been doing it every day since. What struck me is that the majority of SF does not seem to bother with any of the “jump/dance on your corpse” stuff. I’ve not seen them do it to anyone else, and I only ever had it happen to me once, by someone in the KING guild.

Maybe my experience is the exception and they have actually been really jerky, but based on that and what I’ve seen from SFers here on the forums, and my encounters with Zen I like them.

I saw us in FC act like a bunch of jerks that way last night, though. Lots of the dance/jump on corpse stuff, a creepy incident of someone specifically doing it on the face of the deaddie. I saw nothing that would explain it. SFers had not done any exploiting or anything, (though they were making a surprising use of strategy for once rather than the mindless zerg thundercloud. Were you guys bored? Or were we that entertaining? ) It really soured my experience for a while. :/ It might just be that I’m from a different gaming culture, or am a “carebear” but I don’t see a reason why we can’t get along and have a fun time killing each other.

Yes, SF is dominating and gets more badges out of my corpse than ET ever has a chance to. On the flipside that means I also get more badges from SF. I think I’ve killed… two ETs? Out of my 48 badges so far.

Love the post. There are people on every server that do those things. I can only speak for SF but I know we try to quash that stuff when we see it. A few weeks ago it was more prevalent on all sides in T8 but it seems to have gone away. I haven’t seen it much at all in this last week for sure.

I do want to say that I do sit or sleep on corpses that stay at a battlesite long after the place is captured. I do this to let them know I do not appreciate them staying to spy on what we are doing. I completely understand what they are doing, I do the same thing. But I can try to discourage it without disrespecting them with dancing, laughing, etc.

You will get there. I got 48+ badges last night alone, a lot from taking ET keep in EB (which was a nice long fight). LOL, and messing with whoever was fighting the overgrown grub! That was fun!

That is what a shame ram is for. Then you don’t have to look like you are being a kitten.

You mean build a flame ram on them?? Sacrilegious!!

Don’t build it just drop one on them. There is no need to waste the supply. They know what they did

But. but…. How can you disrespect the sanctity of the mighty Flame Ram???

Lol were you from maguuma?

Dear god another T8 thread.

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Ruprect.7260:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Kay.5416:

I like SF.

FCers, put down your hayforks and torches and listen. You can keep the bonfire going though, that is kind of cozy.

I started in WVW this Monday and have been doing it every day since. What struck me is that the majority of SF does not seem to bother with any of the “jump/dance on your corpse” stuff. I’ve not seen them do it to anyone else, and I only ever had it happen to me once, by someone in the KING guild.

Maybe my experience is the exception and they have actually been really jerky, but based on that and what I’ve seen from SFers here on the forums, and my encounters with Zen I like them.

I saw us in FC act like a bunch of jerks that way last night, though. Lots of the dance/jump on corpse stuff, a creepy incident of someone specifically doing it on the face of the deaddie. I saw nothing that would explain it. SFers had not done any exploiting or anything, (though they were making a surprising use of strategy for once rather than the mindless zerg thundercloud. Were you guys bored? Or were we that entertaining? ) It really soured my experience for a while. :/ It might just be that I’m from a different gaming culture, or am a “carebear” but I don’t see a reason why we can’t get along and have a fun time killing each other.

Yes, SF is dominating and gets more badges out of my corpse than ET ever has a chance to. On the flipside that means I also get more badges from SF. I think I’ve killed… two ETs? Out of my 48 badges so far.

Love the post. There are people on every server that do those things. I can only speak for SF but I know we try to quash that stuff when we see it. A few weeks ago it was more prevalent on all sides in T8 but it seems to have gone away. I haven’t seen it much at all in this last week for sure.

I do want to say that I do sit or sleep on corpses that stay at a battlesite long after the place is captured. I do this to let them know I do not appreciate them staying to spy on what we are doing. I completely understand what they are doing, I do the same thing. But I can try to discourage it without disrespecting them with dancing, laughing, etc.

You will get there. I got 48+ badges last night alone, a lot from taking ET keep in EB (which was a nice long fight). LOL, and messing with whoever was fighting the overgrown grub! That was fun!

That is what a shame ram is for. Then you don’t have to look like you are being a kitten.

You mean build a flame ram on them?? Sacrilegious!!

Don’t build it just drop one on them. There is no need to waste the supply. They know what they did

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Kay.5416:

I like SF.

FCers, put down your hayforks and torches and listen. You can keep the bonfire going though, that is kind of cozy.

I started in WVW this Monday and have been doing it every day since. What struck me is that the majority of SF does not seem to bother with any of the “jump/dance on your corpse” stuff. I’ve not seen them do it to anyone else, and I only ever had it happen to me once, by someone in the KING guild.

Maybe my experience is the exception and they have actually been really jerky, but based on that and what I’ve seen from SFers here on the forums, and my encounters with Zen I like them.

I saw us in FC act like a bunch of jerks that way last night, though. Lots of the dance/jump on corpse stuff, a creepy incident of someone specifically doing it on the face of the deaddie. I saw nothing that would explain it. SFers had not done any exploiting or anything, (though they were making a surprising use of strategy for once rather than the mindless zerg thundercloud. Were you guys bored? Or were we that entertaining? ) It really soured my experience for a while. :/ It might just be that I’m from a different gaming culture, or am a “carebear” but I don’t see a reason why we can’t get along and have a fun time killing each other.

Yes, SF is dominating and gets more badges out of my corpse than ET ever has a chance to. On the flipside that means I also get more badges from SF. I think I’ve killed… two ETs? Out of my 48 badges so far.

Love the post. There are people on every server that do those things. I can only speak for SF but I know we try to quash that stuff when we see it. A few weeks ago it was more prevalent on all sides in T8 but it seems to have gone away. I haven’t seen it much at all in this last week for sure.

I do want to say that I do sit or sleep on corpses that stay at a battlesite long after the place is captured. I do this to let them know I do not appreciate them staying to spy on what we are doing. I completely understand what they are doing, I do the same thing. But I can try to discourage it without disrespecting them with dancing, laughing, etc.

You will get there. I got 48+ badges last night alone, a lot from taking ET keep in EB (which was a nice long fight). LOL, and messing with whoever was fighting the overgrown grub! That was fun!

That is what a shame ram is for. Then you don’t have to look like you are being a kitten.

Sunspots.9861:

I think part of transitioning from tier 3 to tier 2 is figuring out how to kill alot •and• get ppt at the same time. If you kill people enough, they stop coming back. On that note…an I the only one who really loves reset? I look forward to it all day!

I look forward to it all day too Sunspots. Always the best night of gaming for the week for me. Everyone comes out of the woodwork to battle it out. Great times.

I look forward to all of our pushes though, but Fridays I just want to go home from work early I get so antsy.

The winner up/loser down would not work. You would just have the first place server in each tier move up and get wrecked and the 3rd place server would move down and dominate.

My server made it’s way up to T2 and since then, because of the competition we have become much better over the weeks. This would not be possible if we were moving between getting beat and dominating every other week. You would get a lot of servers that would not have the chace to improve. The problem is that there are to many servers that are .5 better than the tier they are in. They are batter than the tier they are in but not good enough to move up. I don’t know what the solution is other than creating more servers and hope they fill up to fill the gaps.

OutspokenAardvark.9781:

I know we give FA a lot of crap but [BT] and [RET] are two of the strongest guilds I’ve ever had the pleasure of fighting against. I look forward to another great week of WvW.

This^^

I can imagine FA will only get better over the weeks as we did after moving to T2. I expect a lot of back and forth between 2nd and 3rd in the upcoming weeks.

Dear God. Stop wasting space in EB for ppl that could be productive. It is much faster to earn your badges through WvWing now with the loot changes. I can get 100 on a good night.

Here is what you do. Find a zerg and follow it tagging as many enemies as possible, this will earn you large amounts of badges. You will have 500 in much less time than it would take to get them in the JP. Then you can leave WvW forever and stop taking up valuable space on the map.

Or maybe you will find that WvW is actually a lot of fun and start getting into it. I personally did not think WvW would be for me, I was sorely mistaken. It is now my main focus in game.

FilthyRat.4652:

Lol…wait people are sick of fighting us and would rather fight JQ. Funniest thing I have heard in a long time.

Says a lot for you guys lol You guys must be really mean.

Jski.6180:

Good job?
I cant image it being that fun to just rush though every thing. Why would anyone want level 80 with out doing any thing but spend gold?

It isn’t fun, it really sux crafting for levels, very boring. But it is the lesser of evils. I leveled my first 2 chars through hearts, DE’s, and PS. I could not do the same thing again. So what I did was level my next 3 to about 25-30 then crafted for 30 levels (this can be done for about <15g) And then finished them off in either WvW or DE’s/PS/dungeons. This way I was able to learn how to play with them while not having to do the same hearts all over again. I don’t think I would want to jsut level by crafting all the way because part of the fun is learning to play your class while leveling.

Wow the ratings are close for TC and FA. If we don’t rally guys we may be red again. Wish I could leave work and help the cause.

TC – 1953.990
FA – 1953..905

@Ungood

Facing JQ would be different but it would not be fun. You would never leave your spawn. How would that be more fun?

In TC when we face a T1.5 server that drops down, we are dominated for a week. I cannot imagine that you guys would even be able to get out of spawn on any map at any time for a week. Facing 30+ JQ outside your spawn on everymap while they tick at 600+ all week would be totally demoralizing.

Edit: after reading the rrest of the posts:

Ungood, you think ppl are assuming too much. Have you ever been in WvW on a T2+ server. We regularly have a zerg of 30+, usually closer to 2 20-40 man zergs on every map all the time. How big are your zergs genarally? This is not a guess it is an eduacated guess based on being on a T6 server for a while before moving to TC 3 months ago because of the low PvE pop on the original server I started on. I rarly if ever saw a zerg bigger than 15 on my former server and lucky to pull that off on 2 maps at a time. I can’t imagine T8 being much different. I am sorry but you are delusional if you think you could do anything but stand at spawn agains JQ. I mean look at weeks 50-52. You guys got wrecked by Kaining and they are not even close to a T1 server, they are a very good T2 server with coverage gaps, JQ has no coverage gaps.

I have no doubt in my mind that you guys have a lot of good players, you just have no where near the numbers necessary.

On a side note I do think you guys could possibly do better against HoD if they were to move down. This was explained to me very clearly in another thread and what the guy said made sense. Unfortunatly unless they chage somethig in the next patch you guys are going to be stuck for a few more weeks.

Pendragon.8735:

Also, change the color of the loot bags to something more noticeable. I can’t count how many bags I’ve left lying on the bright snow of the borderlands because they are hard to see.

Bags cull too. I will be running along looking for my bags and all of the sudden it says hit F but I see no bag. I waited about 5 seconds yesterday and it finally appeared.

Pendragon.8735:

The bigger problem is the alert system change. Anywhere T3 and down there are too many periods with not enough manpower to keep scouts and defenders at every tower. A 20 person zerg (yes that is a zerg at lower tiers) can rampage around pretty easily taking whatever locations are suitably unmanned, which will always be some just due to numbers.

The old 5+ orange sword system helped immensely for these tiers, as if you only had 15-20 people on a map, they could all see where they needed to defend, and people actually fought each other, instead of playing musical keep trading.

If 25+ works at the top, great, then keep it for there, but they need to make it so on less populated maps, it detects the lower numbers and sets the bar lower at what triggers orange swords.

It’s silly to pretend that organizing defenses is the same with 20 players as with 60 or 80, or whatever the cap is now on a full server.

I agree about the alert system, maybe make it 15 instead of 25, but 5 was too low, it was impossible to ninja a tower with a small group. But it really isn’t that hard to look at the map and see white swords and send someone out to check it out, even in the lower tiers. If the zergs are that small no one is getting through the doors in <5 mins. We took 2 keeps last night with about 20-24 of us because no orange swords (which sucked because we wanted swords as we were the distraction for the bigger group going to take garrison), we used 4 flame rams, it took about 5 mins to get the outer reinforced doors down. Golems are a different story, yeah we did it in like 2 minutes with 3 golems at the other keep and defenders were still able to get there to slow us down at inner.

Reborn.2934:

if arenanet devs think that the “Roadrunner” wars are better than the epics where you stand and fight … it is ok for me .

right now i only farm the enemies and loots and i am spent nothing for upgrades … in two weeks i earned ~500 badges that i need for the legentary weapon and after i will make it i will permantely log – off because …. i am not a roadrunner lover

Then what were you complaining about in your OP? lol…

Edited to remove my rude remark.

cletiscake.9173:

Ruprect.7260:

If they made all gear available in every dungeon ppl would run nothing but CoF p1 for thier gear. All other dungeons would be empty.

Thats actually a little bit more towards the point I was trying to make. You’re saying everyone wants CoF gear. I’m saying everyone should have the freedom to choose which dungeon they want to run purely for cosmetic reasons. The point about every other dungeon being empty can still be said about the system and the way it works now. With the system that is in place now, players are surely neglecting to run certain dungeons for the gear with the aesthetics they want, in favour of running the dungeons for the gear with the stats that they need. If all the dungeon gear gave you all the stat variations to choose from, it would be safe to say that if any dungeons became neglected, it’s because players are neglecting them out of freedom of choice, in favour of running the dungeons for the gear with the aesthetics and stats that they both want and need. It’s your opinion that CoF is the best looking armour, but to all the hundreds of thousands of players out there, i’m sure they are interested in running something other than CoF.

Ok, I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you meant to make one currency for all dungeaon gear. You are actually saying that all stats should be on all gear for every dungeon vendor.

That makes more sense.

The reason I said CoF was because it is the fastest easiest one so everyone could get thier tokens there and then spend them at any vendor.

If they made all gear available in every dungeon ppl would run nothing but CoF p1 for thier gear. All other dungeons would be empty.

Just like no one runs fractals anymore because you can get ascended gear numerous ways now.

Bluesavanah.8562:

I’m sorry but get over it, I’ve been there when we’ve took down a fully upgraded and defended hills in less than 5 minutes. Just because its T3 doesn’t mean its impregnable.

On the other hand I’ve also beaten off 5-6 golems attacking Garrison in the middle of the night with 5 people. Superior siege obliterates golems especially Arrowcarts. Very much a case of post scouts and learn to defend. Improve communications, what little night crew you have should be on TS or equivilant.

Agreed. There isn’t much you can do regardless if a 40+ man zerg comes to your upgraded keep doors when you have 3 ppl on the map. They are gonna take it. If they make it slightly harder it will just take slightly longer but won’t matter.

I think OP wants fully upgraded to mean invincible until he logs on again and the keep lord to be able to wipe a 40 man zergs.

Wow Bluesavannah you guys have an awsome match going in T3 EU.

Why 2 towers, just upgrade your natural tower. Towers do flip fast and there is no sense in upgrading most of the time. Stonemist is expensive I’ll give you that.

Are you the only person that upgrades everything? Our server usually spreads it out among many or use guild funds for it. And yes we do sometimes lose them overnight, why is that a big deal.

So what I am gathering from you is you want to upgrade so while you are sleeping your keeps, towers, and SM are invincible? If there is no one on the map from your server to defend it won’t matter if they make the towers/keeps a little harder to get into. It will just take 10 mins instead of 5.

And yes, I just looked at a map update and we did lose a lot of our keeps overnight. It happens to everyone that does not have 24/7 coverage. It isn’t a big deal, we will take them back tonight and start the upgrades again. With walls and doors upgraded we only need to keep 1 or 2 there to defend while we take the rest of the map.

Reborn.2934:

Ruprect.7260:

Reborn.2934:

Ruprect.7260:

Gorefiend.9675:

Ruprect.7260:

I have never seen a fully upgraded keep go down in less than 5 mins unless there was no one there to defend. l2defend/scout.

I have seen a fully upgraded keep go down in less than 5 minutes. Garrison: Outer water gate down in ~1 minute, inner gate down in 10 seconds. captured a minute later.

Undefended maybe. Why u no defend.

you must a valuable time to organize a defense … right ?

1 second to organize the defense , port ( oups no port = contested) , run 1 second to the keep and then defense ….

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We siege up all of our keeps and make sure there is someone there to hold them off until we can get there. It is surprizing what a few can do with a few Superior AC’s.

Maybe a little diff in T2 as we usually have enough on to run defense most of the time, especially for keeps.

calculate please how much time and money you want to do everything you say ?

I dont understand. do you mean siege? We all make superior siege when we have spare skill points. Maybe a few gold a week. It takes me like ten minutes to make about 60 superiors. Flame rams, ac’s and ballistas are cheap, can usually buy a lot with my extra badges.

Reborn.2934:

Ruprect.7260:

Gorefiend.9675:

Ruprect.7260:

I have never seen a fully upgraded keep go down in less than 5 mins unless there was no one there to defend. l2defend/scout.

I have seen a fully upgraded keep go down in less than 5 minutes. Garrison: Outer water gate down in ~1 minute, inner gate down in 10 seconds. captured a minute later.

Undefended maybe. Why u no defend.

you must a valuable time to organize a defense … right ?

1 second to organize the defense , port ( oups no port = contested) , run 1 second to the keep and then defense ….

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We siege up all of our keeps and make sure there is someone there to hold them off until we can get there. It is surprizing what a few can do with a few Superior AC’s.

Maybe a little diff in T2 as we usually have enough on to run defense most of the time, especially for keeps.

Salacious.7358:

Ruprect.7260:

Salacious.7358:

I will never get my monthly, I dont have time to do 80 events.

I got mine done in one night in WvW. A normal player could do it in WvW in maybe 2 nights.

I hate WvW Im so bad at PVP I was actually kicked from my guild….

Your probably better off then, that must have been a terrible guild to kick you for that reason. If you get on your servers BL and follow the zerg around and just try to support a little or run in a camp flipping group it goes really quick. It really depends on your server though I guess too.

What infernia said too, on our server cursed shore is full of groups running DE’s.

Salacious.7358:

I will never get my monthly, I dont have time to do 80 events.

I got mine done in one night in WvW. A normal player could do it in WvW in maybe 2 nights.

Reborn.2934:

Ruprect.7260:

When you see white swords you have to send someone to the keep to check it out or keep a person or two at each keep you have.

I have never seen a fully upgraded keep go down in less than 5 mins unless there was no one there to defend. l2defend/scout.

even a keep full upgraded a 10 men squad are in lord’s room n less than 5 minutes …..

i have done it and i have see it doing the enemies i our keep . how ? i said it in my first post .

even the lord’s defence is a joke . we are killing it in less 1 minute

We have epic battles everyday in T2, rarely do I see a defended keep go down in less than 5 mins. So what you are saying is you guys are getting steamrolled while defending and losing a keep in less than 5 mins?

Your doing it wrong.

They are doing it wrong;)

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Halanna.3927:

Ruprect.7260:

The monthly was too easy! It should really be run 20 fracs/run 20 dung/kill 500 invaders etc.,etc.

Haha, what? That is completely unreasonable. I don’t even know any players who do fractals, they just don’t care for the content.

I know a few who do dungeons, but again, most players I know don’t care for the content and don’t want to do it, unless it’s CoF and gogo quickquick.

Trying to force players into content they don’t like won’t make them go do it. It will make them quit and go find a game to play that they have fun in and enjoy, that doesn’t include forced content.

This month’s monthly, and February’s too, were great! They were something to work on slowly through the month. If you killed 100 vets and did 100 events and did the monthly in 3 days, that is not the actions of a “typical” player. Most players won’t do 33 events a day, or kill 33 vets a day. It’s just not typical behavior.

The monthlies are fine as they are, leave WvW, fractals and dungeons out of them, or make it muti-choice so those who don’t enjoy that content won’t be subjected to it and can still complete their monthly.

Im sorry I was trolling a little bit. I would agree with choose your own as long as it takes longer than 3 days to complete it.

Gorefiend.9675:

Ruprect.7260:

I have never seen a fully upgraded keep go down in less than 5 mins unless there was no one there to defend. l2defend/scout.

I have seen a fully upgraded keep go down in less than 5 minutes. Garrison: Outer water gate down in ~1 minute, inner gate down in 10 seconds. captured a minute later.

Undefended maybe. Why u no defend.

When you see white swords you have to send someone to the keep to check it out or keep a person or two at each keep you have.

I have never seen a fully upgraded keep go down in less than 5 mins unless there was no one there to defend. l2defend/scout.

The monthly was too easy! It should really be run 20 fracs/run 20 dung/kill 500 invaders etc.,etc.