Guild Wars 2

Good thing I only play male characters xD

Come on guys… this is unplayable. I normally am able to hold myself rather well in a 1vX, yet here I find myself charged by 5 enemies, my skills don’t work, I get some cc and bam I’m dead.

Can you fix this already??!!!!!!!!!!!!

It’s TECH MECH TIMEEEEEEEEEEEE

Scrambles.2604:

TooBz.3065:

Scrambles.2604:

TooBz.3065:

Scrambles.2604:

Sirendor.1394:

Scrambles.2604:

Sirendor.1394:

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

Berelious.3290:

I still find it ironic that people use WvW as an excuse against Ascended equipment. They cite statistics, percentages, and such, but fail to remember one important thing… and that is that the one on one encounters do not matter in a mode of play that’s designed around group siege warfare. In the end, in WvW, the server with the biggest zerg wins.

False. Havoc squads can impact the capabilities of a team severely. If your massive Zerg is in EBG then you can have enemies slipping in to take down your keeps very quickly in the borderlands. Taking supplies is always devastating towards holding fortifications, and a small group nabbing frogs or dredge can create a nuisance.

And even then. Why do you think commanders ask for might and boons before a big engagement? Because that extra DPS can devastate a Zerg. Knockback, zone control, and all these things can break up ranks and make a Zerg much less ineffective when you’re blasting your enemy targets allover the place preventing them from stacking in place.

Zerg play is very key, but do not underestimate the small things. Don’t underestimate damage percentages, don’t underestimate extra might, don’t underestimate the power of casting stealth, invisibility, portals, blinds, aegis, and all these things. They can change a battle completely. I for example tend to carry ballista prints so that when my server is capping SMC and the enemy is holding up, we can throw down ballistas at the entrances and use a guardian to keep them trapped inside while we block out their push from the outside and prevent any dead from coming inside. What about tapping keeps to prevent enemy reinforcements from returning as quickly? That’s highly key too.

Seconding this. I’m part of a havoc squad, rebel guild, ‘troll society’ and it’s extremely important to have the best gear available there. We often fight up to 3 times as many enemies (3v9 yesterday, finished them all).

What I think WvW needs:

• Option 1: Downscale ascended to exotic stats.
• Option 2: Let us play WvW-Only characters, that can have BiS gear and level 80 without cost.
• Option 3: Upscale exotic armour in WvW to ascended.
• Option 4: Delete PvE gear from WvW, allow players to get their PvE skins for free and unlimited from a database.

I feel like your organized havoc squad would still have the same effect on overall PPT if you were running around in all exotics. Organization, teamwork, and experience play a much more significant role than stats.

Against ignorant zerglings we would most probably… against other organised havoc squads that did have exotics… don’t think so.

no offense, but that sounds like a cop-out.

“dang! that other havoc group only beat us because they have ascended!!”

I’m sure if that situation actually happened, there would be a lot more significant things that determined the outcome of that fight. And more importantly, regardless who won the groupvgroup fight, the effect on PPT would still be non-existent or insignificant.

I disagree. It only sounds like a cop out because you think ascended gear doesn’t matter.

in the big picture of WvW, losing a group v group fight because a group had ascended gear isn’t going to matter when your server’s primetime zerg rolls through the borderland that evening.

So everyone keeps telling me. You will never convince me, I will never convince you. One of us in wrong. Meh.

But in WvW, an individual is insignificant and undesirable.

That’s where you and me disagree.

Scrambles.2604:

Sirendor.1394:

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

Berelious.3290:

I still find it ironic that people use WvW as an excuse against Ascended equipment. They cite statistics, percentages, and such, but fail to remember one important thing… and that is that the one on one encounters do not matter in a mode of play that’s designed around group siege warfare. In the end, in WvW, the server with the biggest zerg wins.

False. Havoc squads can impact the capabilities of a team severely. If your massive Zerg is in EBG then you can have enemies slipping in to take down your keeps very quickly in the borderlands. Taking supplies is always devastating towards holding fortifications, and a small group nabbing frogs or dredge can create a nuisance.

And even then. Why do you think commanders ask for might and boons before a big engagement? Because that extra DPS can devastate a Zerg. Knockback, zone control, and all these things can break up ranks and make a Zerg much less ineffective when you’re blasting your enemy targets allover the place preventing them from stacking in place.

Zerg play is very key, but do not underestimate the small things. Don’t underestimate damage percentages, don’t underestimate extra might, don’t underestimate the power of casting stealth, invisibility, portals, blinds, aegis, and all these things. They can change a battle completely. I for example tend to carry ballista prints so that when my server is capping SMC and the enemy is holding up, we can throw down ballistas at the entrances and use a guardian to keep them trapped inside while we block out their push from the outside and prevent any dead from coming inside. What about tapping keeps to prevent enemy reinforcements from returning as quickly? That’s highly key too.

Seconding this. I’m part of a havoc squad, rebel guild, ‘troll society’ and it’s extremely important to have the best gear available there. We often fight up to 3 times as many enemies (3v9 yesterday, finished them all).

What I think WvW needs:

• Option 1: Downscale ascended to exotic stats.
• Option 2: Let us play WvW-Only characters, that can have BiS gear and level 80 without cost.
• Option 3: Upscale exotic armour in WvW to ascended.
• Option 4: Delete PvE gear from WvW, allow players to get their PvE skins for free and unlimited from a database.

I feel like your organized havoc squad would still have the same effect on overall PPT if you were running around in all exotics. Organization, teamwork, and experience play a much more significant role than stats.

Against ignorant zerglings we would most probably… against other organised havoc squads that did have exotics… don’t think so.

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

Berelious.3290:

I still find it ironic that people use WvW as an excuse against Ascended equipment. They cite statistics, percentages, and such, but fail to remember one important thing… and that is that the one on one encounters do not matter in a mode of play that’s designed around group siege warfare. In the end, in WvW, the server with the biggest zerg wins.

False. Havoc squads can impact the capabilities of a team severely. If your massive Zerg is in EBG then you can have enemies slipping in to take down your keeps very quickly in the borderlands. Taking supplies is always devastating towards holding fortifications, and a small group nabbing frogs or dredge can create a nuisance.

And even then. Why do you think commanders ask for might and boons before a big engagement? Because that extra DPS can devastate a Zerg. Knockback, zone control, and all these things can break up ranks and make a Zerg much less ineffective when you’re blasting your enemy targets allover the place preventing them from stacking in place.

Zerg play is very key, but do not underestimate the small things. Don’t underestimate damage percentages, don’t underestimate extra might, don’t underestimate the power of casting stealth, invisibility, portals, blinds, aegis, and all these things. They can change a battle completely. I for example tend to carry ballista prints so that when my server is capping SMC and the enemy is holding up, we can throw down ballistas at the entrances and use a guardian to keep them trapped inside while we block out their push from the outside and prevent any dead from coming inside. What about tapping keeps to prevent enemy reinforcements from returning as quickly? That’s highly key too.

Seconding this. I’m part of a havoc squad, rebel guild, ‘troll society’ and it’s extremely important to have the best gear available there. We often fight up to 3 times as many enemies (3v9 yesterday, finished them all).

What I think WvW needs:

• Option 1: Downscale ascended to exotic stats.
• Option 2: Let us play WvW-Only characters, that can have BiS gear and level 80 without cost.
• Option 3: Upscale exotic armour in WvW to ascended.
• Option 4: Delete PvE gear from WvW, allow players to get their PvE skins for free and unlimited from a database.

Duh we need account-bound WXP and ranks. It’s horrible like it is now and only serves to widen the gap between long time -players and new ones. Ascended is the same route…
A lot of WvW players I know (I’m a WvW-only player myself), don’t bother getting ascended.

Gnat.9405:

If you don’t do high level fractals there is really no reason to strain for ascended. And even then you can live without it, people have been doing so. It’s an illusion of progression that is conveniently a MASSIVE gold sink.

Viva EXOTICS!

Omg hahahaha. Best thread EVER.

Rozbuska.5263:

For me only memorable LS was Zephyr Sanctum other was under average.

Yap the Bazaar was fun. Maybe add in molten alliance dungeon too. I liked it.

Deth.4109:

Fletch.3572:

Deth.4109:

they should have been a reward for the meta………………

Yeah lol, that’s ooooold school mmo thinking, getting great gear through time and effort.

old can be gold man

I tend to agree.

Wetpaw.3487:

I have a son the same age, and agreeing w/Loki only you will know that answer. But if I could nudge you in a direction, since this was brought to a community forum, if you have to ask in safety of your child, you already have the answer you’re looking for.

My son is the same age, in our house, and typing this I want to emphasize this is what we believe is good for our family and in no way have an opinion of how others should raise their kids,

No games Mon-thurs (school nights for him)
No fps, or games w/emphasis killing realism (cod, battlefield, GTA you get the picture).

For myself I only game when hes at school, or after he goes to bed. My gaming consist of one MMO at a time. This also frees up gaming on the WiiU together on the weekends….when I can drag him away from minecraft to game w/his old man.

GW2 doesn’t have much ‘violence’ in it either, it’s pretty unrealistic in that point of view (omg I’m shooting light bubbles). I would keep him clear of PvP though, that’s not the best place for a child, too many people enjoy ganking new players.

Player 1 bows
Player 2 bows
Other players scatter

Fuzzion.2504:

Devon told me in a PM that the winning server will get

• A huge chunk of the server side bandwidth from the cloud and a guarantee that your server will be lag free

Noooo. That will actually make those servers have fun blobbing. Can’t tolerate. :O!

Flash.6912:

I’m surprise that no one mention precursors!

Fixed that for you…

jalmari.3906:

RNG chest where you have 0.001% chance for precursor (if you have played less than one week) 0.01% chance for ascended 0.1% chance for exotic rest is green.

And world xp bottle.

The importance for end-game is 10 to me. What end-game in this game is however…. good for 1 character, slightly annoying for 2 characters, boring when you reach your third. So maybe it’s worth 5/10 at the moment.

WvW is only thing keeping me in this game after 8 characters and it’s the part I have been playing solely for months.

Redball.7236:

An Siorai Tharian.4516:

As for your assertion that the Classes aren’t all that hard to get a basic handle on. Sure, maybe not. That doesn’t change the fact that if you want an advanced knowledge of how the class works on an indepth level, your going to need to level it from the ground up, in a combat friendly environment. Preferably against both Player and A.I. opponents. Theory alone will not suffice. Nor will simply a few weeks of practice.

You don’t really have a point here, since the people that are going to be crafting 1-80 are most likely those that already have one or several 80s and just want to get another class up to 80.

They’re already going to have a good understanding of all the combat mechanics (because they’re really not that class specific).

And no, forcing someone to kill easy pve mobs in the open world to death for 80 levels is not going to teach them specific knowledge about their class, it’s just going to teach them basic combat mechanics WHICH THEY ALREADY KNOW.

I agree. Level 1-10 learns me everything I need to know about my class. Traits are something that is usually rather easy to learn, as well as utilities.

Vorch.2985:

You start at level 1.

+20exp from exp scroll= Level 21

1-400 on 8 crafts is +56 levels = level 77

4 dungeon runs to do the rest.

You can get to level 80 in a day.

You forgot that the crafts cost ~20g each… 160g… no ty.

Master of Timespace.2548:

Togashi Jack.9531:

I don’t know, this might be a foreign concept for some people but you might want to consider leveling to 80 by a means that is not exclusively crafting, such as… well… playing the game?

Yeah, do the same copy paste quests over and over again! Fun!

I know really.

Togashi Jack.9531:

I don’t know, this might be a foreign concept for some people but you might want to consider leveling to 80 by a means that is not exclusively crafting, such as… well… playing the game?

Come back here when you leveled 5+ characters. (I did. I used crafting for 6 characters, 20-80 levels, just because this game doesn’t have near enough content to level up if you already have completed it a couple of times.
Why don’t I play the game? Cause I am burned out on PvE content and WvW as an uplevel means death if you are not a zergling.

Seriously though, they need to nerf the amount of grinding/farming in this game. It’s ridiculous.

Wish I had your luck. kitten . Right now I have to farm all the time just so I can gear up characters I have and level new ones. Bleh.

<3 —-———— chars

goldensurfer.8406:

The typical scoreboard of WvW in whiteside rigde server:

World 1: +550 points
World 2: +80 points
Whiteside rigde + 50 points

Im done with this season. its getting boring like this. oke 1 week of being dominated oke we might become better. but 4 weeks in a row it is going on like this we and keep losing players because of this.

" lets take our keep back"
“gj team, we are at innergate, hurry, one more gate.”
“$!*$1#!, incoming”
" )(!U!!245#!J!@#(!$*! D

I don’t see the problem. Ninja’d hills yday with 5 people.

Edit: No i’m just being rude. I feel your pain, but I guess we’ll have to wait until Edge of the Mists, so all the blobs get lost in there.

Amurond.4590:

a mini
1000 bloodstone dust
5 blues
3 greens
1 yellow that gives no ectos

Hahaha. I’m sure everyone is waiting for that. xD

What do you think will be in Season 1 Reward chest?

1st server and 2nd is my guess. Blob more, get bigger rewards. L

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

-snip-

Just watch the champ trains coming..

Quoted for truth

RyuDragnier.9476:

Sirendor.1394:

Guhracie.3419:

I’m going to have to disagree. Levels in GW2 are much less important than in most other RPG systems. GW2 does an excellent job with scaling, as well, in most areas.

I’m going to have to disagree to disagreeing. Levels serve no purpose except to stop newbies from getting killed by the first boss they encounter.

Solution: add a tutorial…

>wants a tutorial
>ignores the fact that the first thing you do when you create a new character is an extremely easy instance that gets you accustomed to movement and aspects of combat

I see it more as a in-depth tutorial introducing you to your class. Right now ‘beginner instances’ are the same for every class and they don’t really learn you anything.
So instead:

• Learn to dodge
• Learn what traits are about
• Learn weaponswapping
• Learn how skills work
• Learn basic movement
• Learn specific class mechanics

and so on…

And once you know all that… there you go you’re max level, each zone is accessible for you and you can gear up ‘level 80’ armour.

Does this mean you get everything at once?
Nope: you’ll still have to unlock skills, traits, learn builds, dungeons and so on.

Best match so far, since we left first week after us. Ty AS/RoF

Anet’s reward calculator is a lottery. Nobody wins.

Flissy.4093:

Flash.6912:

My luck is better. Almost 6000 hours of play time of grinding no precursors drop or MF ever. But I made over 40 Legendaries including helping my friends to make their legendary.

Stroke more. Thats 250 days playing time in just over a year.

So how do you pay your bills?

Thought the same thing. 6,000 hours… woah. I have 1,400 and I had +3 months holiday.

Oh and, not a single precursor drop here. Some friends of me got 3 in a row. Bleh

Kaiyanwan.8521:

How can you blame them. ANet tells you to get rich or die trying. And to farm AP or die trying.
So people run the content for the AP, like TA Aetherpath and then say, why would I do this again. No special loot waiting, no new skill to gain, no progression at all.

The only feeling of progression is by amassing AP, grinding gold and farming for either ascended or legendary weapons (and grinding for more gold).

That is it. The LS is so abyssmally bad, that no person that has ever played any other RPG would log in for the story. Events can only entertain you for so long and leveling alts reset your ascended equipment status and therefore the grind back to the start with that one.

Why do people stop playing? Most of the time I ask myself why people still play.

Fuzzion.2504:

If its all 24 servers, i guarantee you will make the community very happy. But you may also take away some of the roamers from the low pop maps. On a pro vs con , it would seem the 24 server world would be better.

I don’t think I’d go back to Blob-land. xD

Personally I try to destroy zergs. Vabbi is facing RoF atm. They blobbed against garri. It was fun to stealth, drop smoke field in the middle of their blob and then “Dagger storm”. You should have seen the effect. Especially when I stealthed away as soon as DS ended, and teleported straight back in. We repelled them 3-4 times with maybe 1/3 their forces.

Sreoom.3690:

kRiza krimos.1637:

My toughts are you should simply drop the subject.

p.s. WvW existed even before wxp was there (crazy i know) and to your suprise people played it back then too. Not for wxp.

Dude…your snarkiness is not needed. I played GW1 from the beginning and GW2 from the start as well.

I played WvW from the early days. It did not surprise me that some were attracted to the open world battle concept.

My Thread is not about WxP…it’s about Risk versus Gain. I personally believe WvW would be enhanced if both were adjusted accordingly.

Problem is… zergs don’t take any risk. They run with 50+ and gain WXP by the thousands. Compared to that… a roamers, scout, siege refresher, siege builder, small team and so on can not gain as much WXP as the average mindless zergling. This would punish ‘good’ wvw players and reward farmers.

Jayne.9251:

Sreoom.3690:

I think I hit a nerve. Sorry dude…keep refreshing your server’s siege and capping ruins.

..Seriously, does anyone go into WvW to not earn WxP?

Me.

I scout and avoid the karma train like the plague. Thankfully my server isn’t really into the karma train thing. It’s just too mindless, I’d rather work on improving my skills.

And me. Karma trains = cowards. There’s nothing that goes past a nice small group fight and some ninja-ing of towers/keeps with <5 people.

Kattami.2084:

My new sylvari engi is my current favorite. I tried to give her a destroyerish look!

Very nice

domxnik.1453:

What’s the “end game” zone now?

There’s no end-game, how can there be an end-game zone?

Fungalfoot.7213:

Levels serve no real purpose in Guild Wars 2 and I for one would not miss them. In fact, I’d love for the stat bloat to be addressed.

Join the club.

knives.6345:

Ronah.2869:

Skills should have levels. The more you use one skill the more they level and gain power up to a max of course. It would give you the option to level more skills or stick with the ones you like

Characters should not have levels. They should have an age. every 10h of being online will raise your status points by 10% up to a max of 300%

Weapons, armors and items should not have level restrictions but power restrictions. You can equip any of them but they will vary in stats spending on your character’s age

I don’t agree with age.

People who has their own pc’s will just leave it afk and poof! Max age. Players should be putting effort to make their character stronger.

But then… what is effort. Zerging with 50 people (which I don’t do) or killing a champion solo (which I do).

Yep. Great fun. Tech defended EB when you left for VB.

Edit: Also thanks to Arbor for the great fights near Durios. We were just 5 guys at that moment. Too bad you decided to come with a blob xD

o-O I want all 24 servers too. Wtf.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

75 gems for changing your character in WvW.

What about charging 75 gems for changing character in dungeon. Ooohh noooo that’s PvE. Seriously, WvW deserves character selection.

Jaxs.5830:

style.6173:

Sigh. You don’t get it. A lot of people zerg in large groups because they enjoy it. No one forces people to do it. If you don’t enjoy it, don’t do it.

Also, if you think a zerg is just stacking and spamming, you play with the wrong commanders.

Every video of zerg play is pretty much the same, follow commander and do as told, he might as well be multi-boxing. Folks like zerging for the same reasons my kid liked training wheels when she learned to ride her bike, it is safe and less scary. This is a good thing, having that type of environment is incredibly important for new players.

The issue is in GW2 the game rewards zerging in so many ways at the expense of all other game play, that folks are not taking the training wheels off. This make for a game with an extremely low skill cap and horribly boring meta. I cant think of another wvw style MMO where blanket use of PVT wouldn’t be ridiculed, yet here is it encouraged.

Enjoy your training wheels.

I agree. If you don’t want to take risks, you don’t get big rewards. Simple as that.

I stopped playing anything else than WvW. I’m in Vabbi, the small scale server.

laokoko.7403:

^ It have everything to do with supply and demand.

Some people were expecting grinning shield to come back again this Hallowean, which it didn’t. So some people either snatch it for 400 gold or some seller take their sell down.

The exotic mini price go up or down depend on weather Anet introduce new source of mini which can be mystic forge for exotic mini. When Anet introduce the supply, the price went down. When Anet cut it down. It went back up. The price went up in 1 day because Anet “fix” or stopped their supply.

You can’t expect people not to invest(or manipulate whatever you call it) when they expect item price to go up. That’s the basis of capitalism. That’s why communism failed even though it supposely to work great on paper. They failed to account for human natural. Being selfish is part of evolution and how species survive.

The only way to stop it is if Anet supposely did some regulation to hinder flipping, like some other people suggested.

Lol. You would go well in a capitalistic tyranny.

Dromar.1027:

laokoko.7403:

^ they did. they make only cosmetic item grinding.

either way beside the small update every few weeks, you are still doing the same old dungeon, world boss, wvw, spvp, champ farming everyday, weather you do it or not.

Sad aint it… they took the idea for their previous game and put it in dull content. Now its a fashion show where you only become cool by being bored for hundreds of hours. How people get through it without a bottle of Vicodin I’ll never know.

That was my point.

Fun? Not allowed, we need to break blobs. !

Blinds count for one attack. If you want to blind permanently, you’ll need to apply blind every second, not just to one person, but to multiple. This is not possible if you still want to be able to deal damage simultaneously.

Ricky.4706:

i figured out the perfect fix – Completely kill the guild system and have all characters log into random servers everytime – This will bring total chaos to organization – and make me and my roleplay very happy. It will Balance out the servers once and for all being that now Anet can rotate populations as they please. This will compliment the people who transfer at a whim.

I care about your guilds as much as you care about my server loyalty.

Chaos for the win!

No such thing as a half way crook – No Gm – No Order – Pure Chaos. Done!!

Out of chaos comes order.

Sorry no. I enjoy playing with my friends. Being matched up with a bunch of strangers every time is not an option. I think it would result in many players quitting this game (it would have this effect on me). Guilds are the only thing that actually make WvW enjoyable.