Guild Wars 2

FLIMP.8172:

Spartacus.3192:

Zelulose.8695:

Then out rotate the mesmers. (hopefully having one of your own and maybe a revenant)

Id like to see the people who can out rotate Portal mesmers.

uh… thief?

mesmer can port entire team over. But I’ll grant you that thief is faster but its just him.

i love long close games. The most fun. If i lose by 20 points im not even mad. I say GG WP and move to next game. If i win by 20 points its also GG WP. Both teams usually say it also so its not just me.

Jack Skywalker.5674:

Leveling Revenant is no different than any other plate class. The whole “Revenant without Herald stuff” is mostly bs…people just use it to abuse getting loads of boons out of combat (mainly Swiftness for travel speed and Might for dps).

It may be mostly BS to you but remember opinions are like A holes. Everyone has one. Rev without herald is boring is my opinion. It being BS is yours.

Antinegative.4872:

What the weapons are really don’t matter. I can use rifle instead of longbow, and I only use my second weapon set for defense, so you can substitute any weapon sets in it’s place and be fine. I was just pointing out the general concept of abandoning the berserker trait line and taking many adrenaline related traits to achieve 100% adrenal health up time with heal amulet to achieve complete invincibility in any 1v1 situation, regardless of the other side’s build.

I would agree with your assessment. Avoid berserker line and go for high adrenal uptime and tankyness.

Yes because Rev without Herald traitline is boring as &*^%

Zelulose.8695:

Then out rotate the mesmers. (hopefully having one of your own and maybe a revenant)

Id like to see the people who can out rotate Portal mesmers.

Team with most mesmers wins…Provided its not the mesmers first match on that class.

What are you talking about that it takes skill to interupt a player? Every player is basically using one skill or another constantly in sPvP and in a team fight with all the Interrupts that classes have these days you are pretty much guaranteed to interupt someone.

I know everyone liked Slick Shoes pre nerf but even back then i had a lot of fun with Blast Gyro due to the AOE knockback and very short cool down. Paired with Final Salvo i was running Bulwark, Blast and Sneak gyros.

Now with the Slick shoes nerf, i think blast gyro is the clear winner.

Rhaegar.5120:

is there such thing as playing a condi rev in WvW? i’d love to know how Condi Revs do in WvW

Problem with condi rev in wvw is if you are using Mallyx/Shiro as per metabattle.com then you have no access to swiftness. Only mobility you have is Phase Traversal in shiro. Mobility is very important in WvW to get from point A to B quickly.

You cant always rely on ambient creatures to phase to when in combat and fighting for your life.

Longbow you should go power not condi. LB was nerfed a bit so i actually went back to GS over the weekend

Mara.6782:

I dont like to solo with guardian because its really slow. You need to use either staff or waste a rune. You lose damage to have more speed and now that longbow is destroyed you dont have good ranged weapon.

I always had a sigil of speed in my longbow (for my standard DH trap build) for open world. I would end up with 3-4 minutes of swiftness after every mob event encounter and perma swiftness during the actual event. That would be more than enough to get me to the next event.

After the Longbow nerf i recently moved back to using Greatsword and really enjoy it again. Only switching to LB if i really need to keep distance.

Actually i enjoy playing my guardian the most when it comes to Solo Open World stuff like HoT maps etc.

he can just roll on down over any mobs and with the DH trait line i can decide to stay at range with LB or go all Melee and multi trap for a complete deathzone around me.

Yesterday i decided i wanted to move away from traps and decided to go all Permeating Wrath Burns and Retaliation setup and see how it did. I kinda liked face tanking stuff and watching them burn and kill themselves by retaliation. Not an optimal build but for Open World anything works so i pick what i enjoy.

I like playing double melee, Sword/Torch, Mace/Shield, Mercenary Amulet, Balthazar or Krait Runes.

Its an awesome hybrid damage dealer (my damage dealt is always about 50% power 50% condi).

AivenPrimus.9184:

@Spartacus,
Do you honestly believe there are any decent person below Legendary1x?
It was THAT boring to play.

you do realise that ANET doesn’t balance just for legendary or ESL level play right? Heck they dont even balance just because of PvP.

If that was the case DH would never ever in a million years had gotten all those Trap nerfs and the most recent True Shot nerf. DH got nerfed due to their effect in WvW and their noob stomping ability in lower tier pvp. Not because they were good at legend level (because they are not)

Its the fact that Mesmer is so dominating by a wide margin in the lower (below legend) tiers is why it needs a nerf.

Azukas.1426:

PowerBottom.5796:

what am i looking at exactly?

A mesmer player trying to defend chronomancer.

LOL ….. +1

AivenPrimus.9184:

Time and time again people(or babies would be way more correct?) make topics about – ‘’mesmers op’‘, ’’how to fix mesmers’’, ‘’pvp is unplayable because of mesmers’’ etc

Most of them are:
1. More or less ignored.
2. Laughed at.
3. Filled with even more whiners.
4. Contains absurd facts.
5. Or eventually closed.

Then how about stop re-posting same topics about ‘’Mesmer this, Mesmer that’’ and …
Deal.With.It. ?

Im sure after a year or so, you will finally figure out how to play against Mesmers…

Day by day, this trend is getting even more amusing.

It is just….adorable..

Some quotes from you below….

AivenPrimus.9184:

Current Condi Mesmers are Top tier at Dueling…

All I could tell you is, forget about killing them in 1v1, it wont happen vs any ’’decent’’ mesmer.
These past few days I have been auto-piloting(thats right) as a Mesmer from Diamond Tier 1 to now Legendary, and not once I ever felt like losing 1v1 battles, unless I intentionally began to underestimate enemy.

Auto-piloting? Sure class is not OP but hey it can be autopiloted to Legendary.

AivenPrimus.9184:

The amount of crying about Mesmers….
Might as well create a new ocean and call it ‘’Sea of Tears’’

What the heck do you really want?
You cry when wrecked by other profession…
and you cry when your profession is receiving any nerfs…

You want to nerf this, buff that…
What’s next? Are you going to tell everyone what type of crayons you like to use?

All this whining is a pure L2P issue.
There is a clear difference, between amazing and ’’good’’ players when it comes down to be or play against a Mesmer.

L2P issue yet in your words forget about winning a 1v1 vs mesmers?

SMH.

Guardian was my main and fav character but it stopped being my main for pvp a long time ago. With the latest nerf i doubt i will play it at all

No one cares about Stronghold.

Joking….

Actually not joking , i havent stepped foot in Stronghold in forever. Isnt it just premade pip farmers in there?

Deniara Devious.3948:

Continuing to use both PIP + MMR is going to be yet another epic fail, leading to countless of pointless blowout matches + MMR hell for some. You should either use random selection within PIP range or MMR only for balanced matches. The player base is way too small to make anything else work. Also the current scoring which rewards 499-500 and 0-500 loss the same amount of PIPs is a fail, because it leads to many players quit after just 100-150 point loss at start. Season 1 had problems, but had way better scoring system.

Thank you for the reply, Evan Leash! Goodbye and I wish you luck the decisions you made!

+1

quickness sigil paired with hydromancy sigil is fun for 100 blades

musu.9205:

http://academygamingnet.com/guild-wars-2-class-tier-list-april-27th-2016/

this stupid nonsense :
quote “Recent changes have been all buffs for the mesmer, which has only make this class even better than it was before. Running the same meta build, Flow of Time’s increase in alacrity uptime has only made this stronger which puts mesmer at the top of the charts.”

and it ignores the fact that mes has trash damage in team fight also is countered by war , condi necro , and DH even DD could beat a condi mes on its own .

and its titled as By Storm & Pro Leaguers

more ridiculous it puts tempest below chronomancer lol in A tier

and this is following the trend mes hate in pvp forum i wonder if some so called pro team intended to make false info to make mes nerfed into ground again hint there is only few good mes in pvp tournament and not every team gets one .

srsly , i would like to see any team in tournament without a tempest or rev . If they really see mes being that powerful , please run double mes or more vs another team with equal skill .

this kinda of article matter nothing , since now they calling mes S tier , later in tournament they run tempest ,rev ,scrapper and war .the words have no consequence in those peoples mind and hence why they never ever tried to prove their words by facts and action .

honorable mention :scepter condi mes was totally dominating pvp!

Let me make a wild guess. You play Mesmer right?

I tried Shoutbow using the Berserker Trait line and clerics and with sage amulet and i just didnt really enjoy it. Healing was decent but it just doesnt hit hard enough IMO.

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emkelly.2371:

The buff only stacks to three but it refreshes when you burst. So if you have 2 seconds remaining.ing and you burst it will reset to 15secs.

Also my vote for top build is probably burnbow. But I’ve been enjoying.g my hybrid build be cause it’s so fun

Refreshing the buff does not do anything if you refresh it faster. That was my point. If you burst 10 seconds later or 15 seconds later, there is no discontinuity in the adren health effect.

^ This
You only need to land your burst once every 15 sec….It doesnt stack in duration.

emkelly.2371:

about balanced stance activating rousing resilience even when you’re not stoned

balanced stance activating RR has been around since RR was introduced as has been posted/talked about on this forum for ages. ANET has had plenty of chances to fix it.

Its even on the WIKI pages as far as i know.

Team Name changed to : Car Crashed and Burned.

brannigan.9831:

How do you propose capping the number of legendary players at 500? Whats to stop people from getting to legendary and never playing again during a season.

Implement a decay system for legend ranked players. They need to play X amounts of games per day for Y number of days per week or they lose pips.

Legends should be required to play to defend their title.

Cant be that hard to implement.

dank.3680:

I camp Glint as much as I can because of the boons and situational skills (cc reveals etc).. The moment I’m facing heavy condi pressure, or need mobility that’s when I swap to Mallyx. Also, I tend to try and use up my Mallyx heal first and save infused light for either emergencies or a chance to go full ham.

One of the few Glint/Mallyx players….

I tried that build but i prefer either power Glint/Shiro ofrcondi Mallyx/Shiro

Furajir.3815:

Should be able to anytime as long as you’re not in combat I believe just hit “B” and hit the eye anytime, cept when dead.

Thanks

Furajir.3815:

You can do it any time if youre fast enough, sometimes I will when match ends and take quick SS, or hop out mid match and look rq and hop back in. If someone utterly destroys me, I do that, just so I know how to counter or genuine curiosity.

Thanks….so right click will give me the option to spectate?

I’ll check it out.

Kenshu.3825:

Hey Frank, mind sending me a link to ur Cond Rev build. I am curious to see!!

I think Frank meant a condi build on another class can beat a power rev, not go condi rev.

But if you want a condi rev build go to metabattle.com.

Furajir.3815:

Guess we will never know since you didn’t click that little spectate button.

How do you spectate when match is over or do you mean you can spectate when he enters another match?

yes you could say warrior doesnt bring anything to team if you are talking about healing/boons/condition removal. However, it can really do a ton of DPS and the ability to quickly drop an enemy is of significant value.

The Sword/Torch Mace/Shield build can really pump out a lot of hybrid damage. Against Revs it does really well if you can dodge/block their initial burst especially since Revs have poor condi clear.

Amber – Pip Loss, No Tier loss.
Emerald – Pip loss and tier loss.
Sapphire – Pip loss, Tier loss and division loss
Ruby-Legend – Pip loss, Tier loss and division loss

Furajir.3815:

I’ve been running Cleansing Ire as vanilla and sometimes zerk with axe/sh and gs w/ demolisher ammy. It’s definitely very underrated, everyone wants to pick up RR for the toughness/healing but, CI has really started to shine, especially since spending adrenaline has become so prevalent especially with SoR.

I cannot complain. It could be worse. We are in a better spot for sure,

I agree about RR. I stopped using it since i generally much prefer Cleansing Ire myself.

Do you know if he was using shouts? because if he never entered berserk then he might have been running vanilla warrior with all the tanky/healing traits like rousing resilience and shout heals plus of course the adrenal health.

because gear is all standardised and ignoring team comp for a moment, shows how good you really are.

I like going to custom arenas and duelling my guildies to get practice. Then pvp matches to put my skill against others

mistsim.2748:

i give zero kittens about balancing elite specs. bring up the core specs to the same level first. this should be priority. this was their biggest broken promise, that elites would be on par with score specs. what a disaster.

Sure, because what this game needs more than anything else is MORE powercreep. smh.

Nerf all Elite specs!

brannigan.9831:

I feel like the build Tarcis posted, which was around and used before, with some minor changes based on preference is the way to go. LB is a must imo because you are guaranteed the adrenal health procs. That’s the main thing that has a chance of making warriors viable the extra sustain from adrenal health.

Longbow is not a must by any means. I have absolutely no problem on my sword/torch mace/shield build proccing Adrenal Health.

Sword F1 burst is ranged (or use sword 2 leap into sword F1) and i use sigil of hydromancy on my mace which helps a lot to land Mace F1. (or use shield bash into mace F1)

Wolfric.9380:

I am a fan of the control warrior. I am testing it with strength. Discipline is not what i need. Also i go with dolyak signet but change this slot depending on match (berserker stance or might signet)
I squeeze out more power with armored assault. Also demolisher amulet.
I am also testing if body blow pays of or the 2k extra HP are fine.
Had no problems with stuns so far (i like to jup out of a stun with stomp). Condi defence is cleansing ire. Stability is a nuisiance but i can rip it. I am not a good warrior player but in 1:1 this kills. I have a bit troubles in larger fights with it. Might test greatsword and trait it.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAS5enMdAtdgldAOeAElilfAzYBEAaAIxgDXL495Wd3uA-TpBCQBc4IAAgDCQGuAADc/h88AAWYZAA

It just feels like a warrior.

I tested a Hammer Mace/Shield build last night using Strength/Def/Berserker lines (using distracting strikes Etc). It was kinda fun, i just felt i didnt do enough damage and if you come across someone with lots of stability like Scrappers using final salvo or Warriors using Eternal Champion (like i do) then a lot of your control goes out the window.

I just find Hammer to be sooooo weak that it annoys the heck out of me.

Guardians got a buff with the True Shot nerf. Now they cant kill themselves so easily when it gets reflected.

/SarcasmOff

Ravenmoon.5318:

Unpopular opinion, but I think the revenant is one of the hardest classes to play.

The difference between average revenant and top tier revenant is skyhigh and it shows in absolutely every 1v1.

Definitely the skill range is huge on revenant.

StickerHappy.8052:

Btw, game is balanced through top tier 5v5 conquest. You saying its not lost all your credibility on this thread. Sorry.

Let me count on one finger how many DH were played in Pro leagues? Oh and that team lost.

So i would love to know how DH nerf was due to Top Tier 5v5 Conquest balancing since i really can’t figure it out. Credibility is being lost but not by who you think.

looks good and will hit hard while having great sustain but im concerned with the lack of stability and condi clears.

I know you dont really want too much stability since you want to proc rousing resilience but i do think Eternal Champion is better overall since there is so much CC out there you will still have decent chances to proc RR. With Scrappers and Druids plus Rev Staff 5 you will have lots of opportunities to use RR even with pulsing stability from Eternal Champion.

On condi clear you only have Brawlers recovery and bersker stance/Heal Signet. If you come across a lot of burn warriors plus mesmers you might be overwhelmed. I found having sigil of generosity on GS and purity on mace/Shield set helped against condi heavy teams.

Otherwise i like it and have been a fan of skullcrack for a long time.

While im enjoying playing warrior lately and have been trying lots of different builds, power, condi, LB, Non LB builds, what i’m realising is that most builds are pretty selfish.

For eg, i love playing Sword/Torch Mace/Shield. However it has to be the MOST selfish build ever. Its a great dueling build and does a lot of hybrid DPS but when i look at end game stats, there is no team healing, no conditions removed from allies and no boons applied to allies. I provide team value by bursting down enemies but thats it.

Unless i go shoutbow i feel that a Revenant or Scrapper can do our job better. Rev provides boons and some healing from staff 4. Scrapper brings a lot of team healing, boons, condi clear and CC etc while still putting out decent dps.

Has anyone come up with a good build that you feel can help carry a team or at least help a team while still doing decent dps?

basz.6129:

Blast gyro. Welcome back to your engi alt

been using blast gyro (with final salvo) for a month now ever since BASZ.6129 mentioned it a while back. I liked it better than slick shoes back then. I like it even more now.

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Spartacus.3192:

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Based on my observation:

The easiest of the good builds to play will be a longbow/ sword/torch condi build with rousing resilience, brawler’s recovery, burst mastery, endure pain. Berserker line seems like you want to recharge it as fast as possible. Take the 10s stun break, zerker stance, and balance stance probably. Heal signet.

I am sure someone pretty much listed this build above.

I will return on power warrior closer to season 3 and see if it is still any good.

I stopped using rousing resilence and prefer Cleansing Ire. In Berserk Mode it makes you condi immune due to the incredibly low CD of burst skills. And with more warriors in the game and most going condi, bringing more condi cleansing i find to be more useful than the extra toughness and heals.

I would agree here, but if everyone is running longbow and sword, then you would expect mostly burning. One condi spike would be handled by brawler’s recovery. But this would only be a meta, vs meta tactic if that becomes the build.
Still need more time for the dust to settle and the bugs to all get fixed.

I also prefer eternal champion vs King of Fires even for my condi build since i dont want to get CC bursted by say a Scrapper or Druid (they have quite a lot of interupts). Especially if i dont run rousing resilience. Even when i did run rousing resilience i found eternal champion to better since i dont exactly want to be continually stunned. With rousing resilience you really only want to be stunned once every 7 to 10 seconds so that your stun break is available.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Based on my observation:

The easiest of the good builds to play will be a longbow/ sword/torch condi build with rousing resilience, brawler’s recovery, burst mastery, endure pain. Berserker line seems like you want to recharge it as fast as possible. Take the 10s stun break, zerker stance, and balance stance probably. Heal signet.

I am sure someone pretty much listed this build above.

I will return on power warrior closer to season 3 and see if it is still any good.

I stopped using rousing resilence and prefer Cleansing Ire. In Berserk Mode it makes you condi immune due to the incredibly low CD of burst skills. And with more warriors in the game and most going condi, bringing more condi cleansing i find to be more useful than the extra toughness and heals.

EFWinters.5421:

IIRC from when it was released someone tested it and the regeneration was actually two seconds, not one.

And I don’t see why it wouldn’t be affected by boon duration.

I have these runes on my guardian (been using them for almost a year now) and unless they patched it, you DO GET 2 SEC Regen not 1 Sec. And boon duration does affect it. try and get 50% boon duration with food/utils etc and you will have nice 3 sec per block with no ICD.

And to earlier poster. Yes the 6th bonus goes on CD immediately but that does not make it a crappy rune. In fact i think its an awesome rune for Guardians and Warrior who use shields. (my GS, Mace/Shield warrior uses it)

Kicker.8203:

Variants: Dead or Alive, balthazar rune + smoldering sigil changed to leeching(it is bugged atm so Energy is better(gives 25 endurance now)), dolyak signet

Is sigil of leeching bugged? in what way?

And i agree im finding the sword/torch mace/shield to be the build im most effective with at the moment. For some reason im not liking Longbow these days compared to when i ran it with Hambow and Shoutbow back in the day.