Guild Wars 2

stale.9785:

the majority of warriors won’t be happy till we have a “Press this to win” button. Having the best HP, burst, and ranged damage isn’t enough.

1. Thiefs have the best burst damage, as confirmed by the DEVs. Not just now, but they want it to stay that way.

2. And the highest damage ranged is Kill Shot, which is only available with full adrenaline and only hits one single target. If that targets dodges, the warrior just lost about 30% of it’s DPS. The ranged damage of a warrior is very much theoretical, there is a reason why you don’t see level 80 rifle warriors.

In order for warriors to be unstoppable after this upgrade, they need to make A LOT of sacrifices. They need to have their 6 runes wasted on this, a trait AND their food slot (at 10 silver per 30 minutes).

It’s not even remotely the same as the one-click-get-out-of-jail skill that thiefs have.

Hickeroar.9734:

FA has beaten TC. TC has beaten FA.

It is very, very, VERY tempting for me to add the numbers of how often FA beat TC and how often TC beat FA. But I’m not gonne do that, no, I’m not!

New score update!

tagnut.8621:

Seriously is someone blowing the thief dev on a regular basis? So they get to spend 50% of the time invisible and immune to all damage whilst pumping out insane dps? Really? Really? 4s revealed reverted to 3s? Should be 10s min.

<nods in agreement>

It’s amazing that thiefs get BUFFED. Just before the last patch, they announced that thiefs will get their DPS down to more normal levels.

But they chickend out and didn’t do the change, they just changed the timer from 3 to 4 and called that a nerf (lol).

Now, it’s back at 3 and thiefs are just as OP as before.

I really, really wondered what happened inbetween.

Did all the WvW DEVs got a 80 thief on their accounts with zerker gear or so? It’s amazing how they can keep one class so OP. Highest DPS and stealth at will.

What’s next, give them clones or so? Oh, wait…

A score update!

Since the behavious has been apologised for (see below) I consider this closed. Even when the apologies come from someone called BAIT

And for the record, we were outmanned almost all the time. It’s odd that it doesn’t show on the screenshot. Feel free to wait for the video to see we aren’t ‘just’ complaining about being outmanned.

That being said, it’s impressive to see how many people DB is having,even on this time of day. I don’t think KN ever had these numbers and I fight at this slot all the time.

Draygo.9473:

Gems are created when someone buys them with $, and gems are destroyed when someone uses them

1. What we do not know is whether ‘golden’ gems (gems that are created when they are bought with gold) also determine the price.

ANet never said that they did. Nor did they say that they didn’t.

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2. If only dollar gems change the gold price of gem, ANet must track down where someone gems come from: are they bought with dollars or with gold.

ANet never said that they did this. Nor did they say that they didn’t.

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3. The gold value of gems goes up and up and up. According to the theory that was mentioned int hat post, this means that either the supply goes down or the demand goes up or both.

ANet never said which one it is (are you noticing a theme here?)

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3a. If supply is defined as ‘gems players bought’, then it is impossible that supply is lower now than atthe start of the game. Players had bough zero gems when the game started. Or did ANet had some sort of ‘starting pool’ for gems? Or do they add a number of gems to the pool for every new player?

ANet never said anything like that.

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3b. If supply is not down and prices rise, than demand must be up, right?

But, it is hard to believe that demand would be higher each and every monthexcept once: prices (taken from http://www.gw2spidy.com/gem atthe start of every month)went from…
37s in oct
88s in nov
1g67 in dec
1g64 in jan
1g84 in feb
2g05 in march
2g38 in april
3g05 now

Saying that demand is up in each and every month, compared to the month before is very, very, very unbelievable.

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I know that it is unlikely that ANet will ever give correct information about this topic, but it is clear that there is more to it than ‘prices go up when people buy gems with gold and prices go down when people sell gems for gold’.

John Smith.4610:

The exchange rate changes based on the scarcity of each supply. You cannot inflate it, it’s an exchange rate. As players purchase in one direction, it entices purchases in the other direction.

And yet, here we are, with gems prices raising month after month after month after month. Odd, isn’t it?

John Smith.4610:

In this thread we should discuss whether gem prices should be regulated.

Very nice done, very nice. It’s a known debate trick: force an assumption upon someone. Here, the assumption is that ANet is not regulating the price of gems.

Which is blatantly false.

ANet defined the price mechanism for gems. It is odd to state that something is ‘not regulated’ when the price mechanic is decided by one party.

Also, ANet never made the price mechanic public. That raises suspicions. Especially because the price of gems goes up the longer the game exists. That points to a price mechanism that is specifically designed to make prices go up.

(which is in ANet’s intrest because the more gold gems are worth, the harder it is to get them without using dollars)

If you really want an unregulated gem price, then use the same mechanism as the rest of the TP where players set the price.

But don’t use an unknown price-mechanism that in rality makes prices always go up and call it ‘unregulated’ because that is just not honest.

lordkrall.7241:

Can people stop post stuff when they clearly don’t have a clue about anything?
It has been stated several times that the development of SAB didn’t take ANYTHING from the other parts of the game.

That is only because ANet made it that way.

Yes, they got DEVs split up in different groups. But they could have added those 5 DEVs to the WvW group. Then we would have a REAL WvW release instead of just a WXP add-on. An add-on that was poorly thought through, as nicely pointed out in my guide.

Bottom line: they could have used the SAB DEVs much better in another group. No one was waiting on a minecraft-mini-game.

BOSS.6243:

confession bear > .. im the one who lead TC to spawn camping.. truely sry i have no idea theres rules about it.. back in CD we got troll, trash and evrythng worst hit us. Sry FA/KAIN wont happn again

I am glad that you know that you did something wrong. Spawn camping is not what TC does. Ever. Not even when it was done to you. We’re better than that.

And I agree with the other people: you were honest and said it was you and apologised. That is a nice thing to do!

Lukemia.2581:

what they are nerfing is the only build you can kill. When the nerf comes out be prepared for everyone to go back to shatter.

I agree.

The mesmer lobby won again. They accept a nerf on their least important skill, while their OP skills remain 100% intact. They can still stealth & blink away. They can still cast clones. You can’t kill these, unless they are thraited for 100+ DPS. Nothing important is changed to them, nothing.

The thief lobby won too. They remain the highest burst damage (which I don’t have a problem with) but they also get better mobility now AND they can stealth every 3s again. This is supposed to be ‘balancing’?

It’s really amazing what ANet is doing with these two classes.

DevonCarver.5370:

We don’t have one yet, but we are working on implementing something to stop corpse scouting. That’s all the info I have right now though and there is no ETA.

Euh… how is corpse scouting the problem? Corpse scouting (in this scenario) is the one person of the 40 people that stays behind with the mesmer to guard it, no?

If you mean by ‘corpse scouting’ that the mesmer can not get revived inside an enemy keep, then that would be the solution, yes.

However, this is not one of the most broken mechanisms in WvW at the moment: the zoom cheat from SAB, windowed mode or dual screen is far more damaging to WvW, people are abusing this mechanism to shoot with ACs into places you should not be able to shoot in.

Mandar.9813:

We came here to do more than just put a dent in things.

And it shows, I like DB already

Keep it up!!!

Score update!

It is ofcourse way too soon to draw any conslusions whatesoever, but it’s intresting to see how much rating the #1 servers in the first 4 tiers lose during reset: JQ -25, TC -61, KN -62 and SoS -117.

I never noticed that before. It’s from 3 hours ago, so only after 4 hours of play, which says nothing for the future, but it’s still odd!

Evogrin.6027:

Farewell TC and FA! Was fun fighting you these last weeks! What an awesome match up to come back to gw2 with.

./Salute

Some other time then!

Farewell! I hope KN had fun with us and maybe we’ll see eachother again!

One of the last ones with TC & KN in it.

For now!

Another score update!

Welcome to T2, DB! I hope you will have fun in here!

And KN, sorry to see you go. You were a great server to fight: no spawn camping, no dancing on bodies, no killin in the jumping puzzle, no jumping up towers. Thanks for the fun all these weeks!

Mogar.9216:

This is why system need to change to reward small man a bit more over zerging.

I agree completely with this.

There are some solutions, but none are very easy to implement, with no guarantee for succes.

One possible solution would be to have -say- 25 different smaller maps in WvW. 5 with a cap of 5 people per server, 5 with a cap of 10, 5 with 15, 5 with 20 and 5 with a cap of 25 per server. The amount of totalplayerswould still be about 375 people per side (more or less the same as now), but it would get rid of the 4 zergballs.

Sab.5291:

we do not have enough people during off NA time to handle tier 1

Good point, but… that was also said when we moved to T2 and yet we’re still here.

I am not specifically aiming to get to T1, but I do wonder how it would be there.

Will we lose in points? Yes, we will.

Will we also lose in ranking? Maybe.

But I am not so sure.

In the current match, FA has 62 ranking less than TC, they are losing with 100,000 points from TC but they only lose 10 ranking. Currently, TC has 100 ranking less tha the 2nd in T1. I would be very surprised if we lose with much more than 100k in T1.

So, I doubt that with the current ranking score, TC would lose a lot of rankings when TC goes to T1.

Not that I really WANT TC to go to T1, but I am not against it either. What’s the worse that can happen?

One of the solutions would be to limit WHAT siege that can be placed.

- Only balistas and ACs are allowed in towers & keeps.
- Rams are only allowed in front of a gate.

This would be the normal use for warsiege, but people use them differently because of the odd gaming mechanisms, like catapults shooting through walls and the towerrs standing so close to the keeps that they can treb each other.

Score update.

In plain 4:3 I’m afraid.

The only nerf that trebs need are a range nerf on the current maps. Either that or we need new maps, where you can’t treb from one structure into another.

It is indeed odd that you can reach a castle while trebbing from a keep.

Other than that, trebs are fine for me.

timidobserver.7925:

I don’t really have any interest in GVG. That seems more like a spvp deal not a wvw deal.

I agree 100% with this.

A group of experienced people fighting another group of experienced people, that is sPvP.

WvW is also alot of strategic play: deciding where to attack, what to defend, how to handle supply, how to deal with defeat, commanding newbies…

Anyways, a score update!

Ans a screenshot of the EB score. <edited, apperently it’s not a first in T2 history, still something to be proud off>?

Time for a score update…

The TC lead is more than expected: the 105k lead of TC over KN can mmaybe be explained by the guilds that left/leaving KN, but the 85k lead of TC over FA is a lot.

As a TC WvWer, I welcome all these WvW-guilds on the T2 battlefield.

May the fights be fun and the loot be plenty!

I thought you get infractions by posting about your infractiosn, lol.

Anyway, score update… Sorry, no chat now!

AS one of the TCers that fought RISE in T2 for weeks, I am a bit sad to read that they will leave KN.

No server is determined by one or two guilds, but RISE and WM were the two guilds I fought the most on the battlefield in WvW, altough I certainly noticed that KN had alot of militia too.

KN was a nice server to fight: no corpse dancing, no spawn camping almost no jumping puzzle killing, no people jumping up walls, no forum accusastion. It is a pity to see it fall apart.

Apperently RISE went to KN on T8 just to make KN rise to the top tiers, so I understand that when you reached the top of what the server can do, you leave and try to do it again on a T8 EU.

esm.2584:

you means Anet will set up SEA server for SEA player in future ? Where do you heard this news ? If this is true i do believe most of the SEA player will go to SEA server to get better connection.

Source is http://gw2.kongzhong.com/

And for connection: it really doesn’t matter where you live and play. I live in Europe and play on a NA server. I got zero connectivity lag. Zero.

Today’s inter-continental internet connections are very fast, probably about as fast as your connection to your host.

And GW22 doesn’t alot alot of bandwith either.

Really, location is not a factor.

Evalana.5480:

it’s really weird from different POVs — both sides look outmanned

Yes, I see videos from the other side I sometimes think ‘I was in that fight, where did the other half of them go’. It’s probably because of those name tags on the pets and clones and phantasms and what not.

Anyways… score update!

Mayoken.9851:

it’s been a pleasure fighting everyone and sharing experiences and laughing about fond memories. We’ve always tried to respect our opponents

Take care, wherever you go… I never saw CO dance on a corpse, camp a spawn, disrespect RPers, kill at a jumping puzzle or brag on the forums how great they are after winning one single fight. That says enough about CO for me!

<score update deleted> Nevermind, Zoja beat me to it.

Probably cause it’s thursday morning for me, I never could get the hang of Thursdays.

shortcake.8659:

i don’t know how anyone can even notice the chat box over the 5 signets

I put those signets there just to see if anyone would notice them, hehe.

I first had the score update at the regular place, higher than the traits, but then the sigils where too obvious. It took a while to get it right.

Especially because someone came to me and started talking in /say too, lol.

Time for another score update!

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Jeda.5209:

If rezing gave wxp you would see people in front of spawns just killing themselves and having someone rez for wxp and then switch with others killing themselves.

Healing could be exploiting in the same manner. Just lose some health and heal them to get wxp.

True, true.

Although one could come up with a mechanism to cope with that. Either do the same as with kills and limitthe WXP one person can give or only give WXP when players are in combat with other players.

But it’s true that some of the solutions are indeed exploitable.

Axle.5182:

We need a new mechanic for distributing who earns WXP in these situations

Yeah. The whole WXP reward system needs to be rebalanced.

I am afraid that they will just add WXP for reviving or for yaks and then consider it ‘fixed’ Kinda like they ‘fixed’ the orb exploit by taking the orbs out.

It all depends on how much energy they want to put into WvW, really.

BenKenSven.4256:

I’ll be waiting in one of the FA keeps with my superior arrow carts

That would be kinda difficult at the moment, because…

UCF Knight.8095:

I was babysitting a supply camp all by my lonesome, upgrading it little by little, when I finally noticed a small group of TC had been killing every yak sent out for about 15 mins. ’Twas a sad time.

Then as soon as I left they took the camp, thereby teaching me to never upgrade camps with my own money unless I’ll be there to defend it till the death.

Well… you would have saved alot of money if you had read my WXP guide first! It’s a must-read for any WvWer, really!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Guide-How-to-get-alot-of-WXP-fast/first

(end of shameless plug)

Score update!

If your latest post…

DevonCarver.5370:

It will reset at 7 PM in the U.K.

… is true, then your original post…

DevonCarver.5370:

European matchup will reset at 19:00 GMT

… is not true.

When it’s 7PM in the UK, it will not be 19PM GMT, the UK is currently not at GMT.

gimmethegepgun.1284:

Excellent guide, it has most definitely informed me how best to raise my rank that is so very indicative of how good/useful I am!
/cough

Something tells me you are an upgrading, sentrying, siege building repairer too, just like me.

Utterly useless!

/cough back at ya.

Josh Foreman.8250:

When I first thought of the idea of an 8-bit jumping puzzle dungeon the very next thought I had was: How does this fit into GW2?

GW2 is a very pretty game, graphic wise. And then someone runs through with 8-bit graphic on their back.

A pity you didn’t ask the question ‘how does 8-bit weapon skins fit into GW2 graphics. Cause then you would have answered that question ’it really doesn’t fit at all’ and would not have done it.

Apperently ANet wanted to get new content out cheap, and this is the result: you see 8-bit stuff all over the game now.

If you would have kept this 8-bit graphics into the SAB, that would be ok. But now everyone has to look at it.

kurtosis.9526:

Actually whoever drops to T3 will probably gain so many points they’ll jump back to T2 a week later. And then, repeat. I foresee quite a bit of that for the next couple weeks. Those who want some variation are going to get it.

Let’s hope so, variation is the spice of life!

But… it is not a save bet that KN will return to T2 immediatly.

The difference between KN and the other T3 servers is more than 200 ranking points. KN will need to win the match with A LOT more points to win in ranking.

And there is no way of predicting how WvW is impacted by CO & WM leaving.

And FA will fight for their place in T2. With a new server in the tier, things always light up: players play longer against the new guys, guilds want to show who they are, players that quit WvW return and so on. FA will benefit from this, their coverage will go up.

So, I would not take bets on KN returning immediatly, except maybe at 4-1 odd or so.

Shrouded.6450:

Did all the CD guilds transfer over already?

Not everyone got tranferred yet, according to what someone told me earlier today, but most are on TC.

One of those guilds had their first ‘official WvW day on TC’ today (their words, not mine). They took all of FABL: each keep and tower was green.

They seemed nice, altough not very chatty in /map or /team, but I guess that’s shyness from being new, hehe.

Loken.9724:

Better get working on those upgrades to your BL. Every things paper.

I’ll just reply to this with this score & map update…

Andy.9137

Losing respect for TC because of the pretentious attitude of it’s forum warriors. Although the backhand comments from FA make us look bad as well.

The (albeit subtle) difference is that these FA-people are trashing TC already for months and TC never really replied in the past.

But there comes a point when too much is too much.

For me, that point came when these FAers kept saying that they were better than TC… after TC won against FA 7 times in a row.

When FA looses 7 matches against TC and some FAers keep saying over and over and over AND OVER that FA is better than TC, you can not expect that TC just stays quiet and doesn’t react to these insults.

Sure, you can say ‘be the better person and let them insult you over and over’ and that is what TC did. For weeks and weeks and weeks.

But at a certain moment, too much is too much, even for nice and gentle RPers like TC.

shortcake.8659:

Such a shame too, this matchup was pretty good about a month ago until one of the servers decided they wanted a t1 amount of population.

First, the 3 CD guilds came two weeks ago. That was AFTER TC already took first place on it’s own.

Second, these guilds only field about 40 people. Granted, 40 people at off-time can do alot and it are a welcome 40 people, but it’s only that: 40 people.

Third, WM taking a break changed this tier much more than the 40 WWW players.

Forth, TC had a great reset day. We ticked at 300+ points consistently. That had nothing to do with the 40 new players, but mainly with DIS taking so much of FABL at reset. TC kept FA Garrison for hours during reset, that has nothing to do with SEA coverage.

Fifth and most importantly, this tier will not change because TC got some extra ranking points, this tier will change because DB is taking points in T3.