Guild Wars 2

bearcow.2907:

Had a great six minute fight at water camp last night vs BG.

KnT + others came in towards the end with a pretty good push and forced us to keep on our toes, but it was not enough to overcome the 5 guardian group!

(Indo and the rest of the zerg may have helped… a little.)

First time I think I’ve been in the middle of one of these video’s. It was a good fight.

Ascii.9726:

happy friday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0

we so excited

Sorry Ascii but now I may have to switch servers just so I can hunt you down for posting that god awful video.

Interesting. There seems a good possibility SoR might be blue again at this pace by next week.

Kiltor.9362:

Score Update! Keep pushin SoR!

Geez Roanark, take a break man! What are you now rank 70?

Israel.7056:

Pvp.2758:

It’s a shame that 1 person leaving can destroy an entire server.

That’s a little overdramatic but a respected leader can make a very big difference.

No doubt. If Indo and TW left SoR, I’d strongly consider following.

Waage.2047:

The reason you never won before was because you tend to be defensive and afraid to hit something with smaller numbers. VERY few SoR guilds work small scale so we took you down by holding your zerg in one zone while the rest of us hit the others. Now that we are low on man power that will not be a option.

This could not be further from the truth.

Who finished 3rd last week? I know it wasn’t SoR.

Once again, good times in SoR BL.

And………….score update

dragon.8625:

70+, the new face of GoF? we’re coming for ya >;/

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Okay, maybe it’s just EMP always runs ;-)

Jedbacca.6297:

Otokomae.9356:

Esoteric.5490:

Words cannot even describe. Just wow. The objective viewpoints, critical thinking, meaningful discussion, and general good sportsmanship in this thread is astonishing.

I mean holy kitten. How the hell can everyone just troll so hard? It makes me want to throw up. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Just log on to Guru for a minute to see what an oasis of sanity this forum really is…
(^_^)

I uhhh, kind of went in to troll mode on one of your BG brethren from oPP. I got guildies that actually have field respect for them. So just ignore the trash that I’m currently spewing. I kind of took it personal when I read “JQ always runs.”

JQ always runs. Don’t take it personally.

Jackums.3496:

Tyaen.5148:

@Jackums:

You might want to take a look at the map I posted right above your post. Looks like a lot of red there to me. Oh yeah, and who finished third last week?

SoR getting stronger coverage doesn’t mean BG gets hit less and JQ more, it means you both get hit more.

I never said SoR never hits JQ. I said the general nature of the competition during the time I’m on is very JQ vs. BG. The defensiveness is hardly necessary.

Not being defensive. Just pointing out SoR does fine. I didn’t realize you were referring only to times you play. Apologies.

@Jackums:

You might want to take a look at the map I posted right above your post. Looks like a lot of red there to me. Oh yeah, and who finished third last week?

SoR getting stronger coverage doesn’t mean BG gets hit less and JQ more, it means you both get hit more.

Lots of fun in SoR BL tonight. The bay defense was hilarious. Thanks EMP :-)

Oh yeah, and score update.

Let’s get this party started.

VOLKON.1290:

urzen.7096:

Waage.2047:

You can most likely take back your second place, but that will still be hard to hold after all BG even with the lose of 2 wvw guilds still have the abilty to take massive points in EU prime leading into NA.

Exactly, which is why SOR isn’t fighting for second. We just take what we can, and nothing will change until we get more coverage. If BG or JQ slacks off, we do better that week, because we never slack off.

If you’re third, you need to take second before you can take first.

No you don’t.

Jedbacca.6297:

To the SoR ppl that hopped down in the circle to prevent the cap for BG, you guys are handicapped, you could have let us cap, then come back and flip the keep as paper.

Maybe we would rather let JQ have it. See, we don’t like you :-P

kevinskyrider.3271:

Tyaen.5148:

Aerial Melodies.4938:

Lensar.4920:

kevinskyrider.3271:

Yeah, that fight for Bay in JQBL really did happen!
We all had fun & props to our commander & group for working together.
Thanks for the hour of fun!

I frapsed the best part of it for a bit. Total skill lag for 5+ minutes. It was awesome.

http://youtu.be/DEZQx52tlWo

It was a lot of fun! Unfortunately at the end (for me) I saw a wall of names running in slow motion toward me and couldn’t move myself anymore or swap skills, so I had to bow out. Need to adjust the settings again so I can actually stay in the game and FIGHT!

I counted ~70 dots on your mini map.

Hey, we were holding off all of JQ and SoR in there! :P
funfunfun

Oh, it wasn’t a criticism or anything. I just love the fact that I can play now with that many people around the area. Imagine if they actually throw some hardware at the lag problem.

Aerial Melodies.4938:

Lensar.4920:

kevinskyrider.3271:

Yeah, that fight for Bay in JQBL really did happen!
We all had fun & props to our commander & group for working together.
Thanks for the hour of fun!

I frapsed the best part of it for a bit. Total skill lag for 5+ minutes. It was awesome.

http://youtu.be/DEZQx52tlWo

It was a lot of fun! Unfortunately at the end (for me) I saw a wall of names running in slow motion toward me and couldn’t move myself anymore or swap skills, so I had to bow out. Need to adjust the settings again so I can actually stay in the game and FIGHT!

I counted ~70 dots on your mini map.

Time for bed

Liquid.9672:

It’s a fair question though. What can hit for 19k on a piece of siege placed at the back of a battlement?

Probably someone running (x) tiers of the Ballista WXP line

GekoHayate.2451:

Ascii.9726:

GekoHayate.2451:

Ascii.9726:

Score at 5AM GMT, just after i DC’d from SoR-BL for the 100th time this match-up

You get a bug report after your game closed?

Sometimes my client completely closes and ill get the submit a report window, sometimes it just closes without any pop-up and other times it will DC me from the game with a Internet/ Firewall problem which has to be a server side issue as i remain in TS3 talking.

Only begun happening since the 26th patch, even with most of my settings on lowest.

On the bright side, I’m worth 60 WXP xD

I just had it happen for the first time after i posted that last picture, and just 20 seconds ago.

Pretty crappy if you ask me =/

Since the patch on the 26th, I get a crash message everytime I close the game. DC’s only seem to happen if I stick around the zerg after a tower or keep flip.

Taking a little break for the a bit. Hansel and Gretel left me a trail to follow. Good fights today in SoR BL.

bhagwad.4281:

Which reminds me of a another option – use retal yourself. Today I was up against an engineer who caused me over 8k in retal! This is a good enough strategy also no?

What makes me wonder about this thread is it feels like an engi started it. As an engineer you should understand one of your strongest abilities is near endless applications of confusion in stacks when traited properly. Combine that with Elixir B and see what happens.

Know your class.

Edit: Went back to the OP and it’s a Guardian, just hijacked by an Engi.

Slamz.5376:

moutzaheadin.4029:

How about just removing the condition. Lol @ only “stop fighting back”

…says the mesmer.

Not every class has a means of removing boons from an enemy. Even removing conditions from yourself is dubious in a WvW environment where your removal may have a long timer whereas the 40 enemies over there can stack you back up instantly.

If I’m on my engineer and run into a mass of people all running retaliation, “stop fighting back” really is my best option. I have no counter to retaliation.

Cleaning Formula 409. Elixir C, Fumigate, Cleansing Burst, Antidote, Super Elixir, Toss Elixir R

Vodka makes me laugh out loud, and not because I drink it with tonic.

Vodka.3958:

Pvp.2758:

Waage.2047:

Pvp.2758:

Culling is removed and SoR takes 2nd. Nice!

Well DUH. You always had the numbers and the removing of culling made your zerg’s finally realize that they where getting hit by smaller forces at all times. BG dose not have the numbers to fight SoR or JQ’s numbers.

We tend to be better in movement and stronger pound for pound, but we do not have the pure mass that you guys have.

Oh I forgot SoR has a higher map pop. thanks to anet’s love for SoR

Everyone knows that SoR’s strategy has always been to get everyone in their map into 1 huge zerg; while Blackgate on the other hand has a lot more smaller, organized strike team guilds hitting different locations simultaneously.

Especially SoR’s largest guild, for example, would insta queue the map with their 1500 members and stay together in 1 huge zerg.

Yup, everyone know it.

Let us know what you end up making it. There is some real talent in your group I like 1v1 and 1v2ing against

Your 5 man havoks are some of the tankiest I’ve ever come across.

Thundar.3910:

But, but…who will we flaunt to if you leave.

Kaineng

Thundar.3910:

2 forces standing on walls, and they waved at each other? Those low down dirty kittens! HOW DARE THEY WAVE HOW DARE THEY!!

PS. JQ commanders, whisper me for tonight’s super secret plan on 2v1ing BG. We’ll use our normal hand signal /wave to begin the assults. PSS. Don’t forget to flaunt the 2v1, flaunting is the key.

Ha!

We need a “Westside” emote.

I love the “I have a secret build” posts. There’s no such thing. I guarantee dozens of people across the servers ran every build ever posted before it was ever named by the community. What really makes those builds fun is the videos of the skilled players running them.

Engi has a lot of great builds for WvW.

Dredrum.2563:

Already pointed out above that post, that SoR and JQ were waving at eachother while all this was going on. If it was about the ppt they would be on other maps. It wasn’t about the ppt, it was about 160 vs 40. And they flaunted it with emotes to boot. And yet here I am amazed again how blind people can be.

I went up and stood next to a JQ player during that battle to scout them. We left each other alone because he was also scouting us. I waved at them. Then 20 minutes later when we got sick of [WARD] trebbing us from the NW corner we pulled off the gate ran around the south side, came back up and wiped their group off that treb. You’re right though, we were working together.

AnTxJeTs.5186:

sostronk.8167:

I kinda see the 2v1 concept, but not in game. Its smarter for SOR to play for second because they don’t have the coverage to beat JQ, but they have the numbers to beat BG. BG has now beaten JQ and JQ doesn’t want that to happen again so we are making sure it doesn’t by targetting BG. Just the way things go. But its not like anyone on JQ is like, öh its SOR we will leave them be". We see an invader, BG or SOR, we will do what we can to bring the hurt.

Oh really. Those pics are from last night. When you could see the clear 2v1 and neither could take the keep during the 90 minute long staring contest. Ended up wiping both SoR and JQ.

News flash. If JQ hadn’t been there harassing us from behind the entire night, you never would have kept Hills. You should be thanking them, not crying 2v1. regardless though the nature of 3 faction is 2v1 get used to it.

My first full night back since the patch. Great job fixing this ANet. No culling and almost no skill lag. You’ve won back a customer.

Great fights on SoR BL in Hills. Here’s some of the fun.

I’m going to give it a couple weeks and come back. Either that or play in off hours. I like the improvements, but every server is now rolling in bigger zerg balls than ever. I partnered up with a necro and we went to camp flipping. We didn’t see a single defender at any of them including the north camp. Once the novelty wears off and things go back to normal I’ll try again.

Nice job fixing the culling ANet (seriously).

I can now tell when a -zerg- is approaching from skill lag. The real benefit to the skill lag is I end up taking almost no damage.

Kontrolle.3514:

Halcyon.7352:

Kontrolle.3514:

They finally killed my engineer, i survived 13543 nerfs, resskilled/regeared after every patch, now you got me anet. Im done here.

Very very, very tempted to throw in the towel along side ya. Only reason I’m not is that the conditions/HGH build still somewhat interests me; least til they nerf that into the ground too, to give gadgets a cooldown reductiom or something equally ludicrous.

This build sucks, it always sucked and will ever suck its designed for baddies who suck at playing engineer. Its totally BS in 1vX and HGH is the most useless and wasted trait ever. Jes its the last build left because there is no other way to remove conditions, but that doesnt mean its a good build.

If you dont agree you were a baddie anyway. The only dangerous/decent engineers had a minimum of 2 kits, everything else was just free badges.

I just rage now until maybe next week and maybe i continue playing my mesmer/ele or im done once and for all. Engineer is dead for me and it was the thing that drawed me to this game.

Um, no. I’m sure I’m not a “baddie”. There are plenty of other viable builds. Just because you can’t play them doesn’t make all the other engi’s bad.

fivekiller.1432:

KLuka.4892:

Ruprect.7260:

•Catapult damage no longer affects rams through gates

This will be interesting

Kind of overdue – was one of the most weirdest “pro” tips that I learned.

Dealing damage through the doors feels really weird – with anything.

so i wonder if everything else will still damage rams through gates, and if everything not a ram will still be damaged by catapults through gates.

guess we’ll find out the answer to these questions and more soon.

Definitely going to affect the way standard siege placement happens.

This really opens up some additional build possibilities. At first glance I really like the change to Kit Refinement.

This is going to require a lot of in game testing to see how it impacts the effectiveness of each build I use.

Good fights on SoR BL tonight. I’m a little rusty, but wanted to get some practice in in case ANet actually fixes this tomorrow. To the bunker Ele giving the fun 1v1 from garrison to north of Longview, I salute you.

Im Not Braxton.6283:

Tyaen.5148:

How winners roll. Flame ram inside the wall underground.

Looks to me like you’re target on a flame ram father out, then jumped down the wall and are shooting from there.

No

How winners roll. Flame ram inside the wall underground.

Just tried this out in WvW a bit. I really like the potential.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

int randInt return.7810:

6.) Engies are too OP and scare me.

So what you’re saying is that you don’t wvw very much?

Nope, he’s right. We are OP.

Didn’t know that. Intuitively I would have thought it would have gone:

Elementalist, Thief, Mesmer 10k
Engineer, Ranger, Necromancer 15k
Guardian, Warrior 18k

Hey, does anyone know how rams work in WvWvW?

Vena.8436:

Jeknar.6184:

That’s about half of my HP… But indeed it wasn’t hitting that much, so i will assume it was regular ones.

Admittedly, I’ve never run a full-vit Guardian outside of PvP where the stats are a bit different but I’m pretty sure you’re not topping out at 24k? But either way, its close to half of your health.

Um, my engi sits at 22K in P/T/V gear.

Loved the engi-engi duel.

Kimbald.2697:

I’m using a silly basic shield.
Simply because it’s one of the few darn shields out there that says ‘engineer’ to me.

Picture attached, not for bragging rights since it’s a low level basic piece of junk… but to show what I mean with ‘engineer’ looking.

So, apply the skin to high level shield.

Oxstar.7643:

Forestnator.6298:

just wait 4 more days. Turrents get a big change next update.

Can I see your sources please?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Engi-March-State-of-the-Game/page/5#post1661153

Yeah, if you’re going to try and be a frontline zerg player, I’d go with a might stacking Juggernaut FT build. Especially right now where you’ll be spamming 1 a lot due to skill lag.

I used to run something similar to this which can be modded for Condition Damage:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/GUIDE-CeiMash-s-Guide-to-the-Dodgemaster/first#post1674334

I am heavily leaning towards a varian of this https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/GUIDE-CeiMash-s-Guide-to-the-Dodgemaster/first#post1674334
once the patch is implemented.