Simple solution for ANet to fix:
- Giant Road Signs that show players the 3 exit routes from a Spawn point.
lmao good one Diku lol.
But yeah they probably do need to put up signs or something cause it seems like a lot of people don’t know there’s 3 ways out of every spawn, although the 3rd option sometimes kinda sucks, like ebg spawns.
I am on EU genius.
You probably should have pointed that out in your thread somewhere while posting it on the NA boards. Who’s getting double teamed anyways Super Genius?
Unless they changed it lately… yes they do, pretty funny to see someone go into stealth and their mini is still running around, well shucks I wonder where he went.
If those that encountered a ghost thief just walked away (or used swiftness/speed boost) these thieves wouldn’t be an issue as they are a condi one burst gimmick. Cleanse and walk away, stay and fight and you will typically get downed.
Just walk away, ok sure. The thief can do the same when they run into a stealth trap then, just walk away.
The trap feels awkward, but there’s no choice since they won’t rework or adjust stealth mechanics, and thieves are built entirely around it. They hand out stealth reveals to a class once a year, probably the one time they bother to look at wvw balance.
Pfft wish they would make it instant cast instead. Stealth was designed terribly for this game, what’s worse is the game released without any hard counters to it because they obviously didn’t think it would be abused as much as has, like 1 thief trolling an entire zerg in capture rings and all they could do was throw aoes everywhere, or now the ghost thief which is in stealth 99% of the time.
Stealth trap – may 14 2013
Sic em – oct 15 2013
Analyze – sept 9 2014
Gaze of darkness – oct 23 2015
On my mark – oct 18 2016
But they squishy!… that’s why they also have some of the best mobility in the game.
You looking to get more people to quit the game?
Any of the roaming classes with stealth or mobility would be good, as mentioned thief warrior mesmer druid and maybe engineer. You’ll be able to recap camps or harass enemy roamers. Mesmer probably being the best with the tools they have, I use to roam/scout/defend on a mesmer and warrior and it was a lot of fun.
Don’t think I read anywhere where anyone asked to change the name to such a simple state as dots above the head. The majority were looking for abbreviated names for like the server name or player rank.
If anything they should have put the dots as red and the guild names below it as the server colors, and if someone is guildless then display their rank there instead as the default text in server colors.
But hey some people like it, glad for them, at least they made it optional.
They don’t even use trapper runes, they don’t need to when you can keep 99% stealth up time anyways.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ghost-Thief-Gameplay-Tier-1/first
Dolyak parades!
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Stay away FA!
you can still use the old option yet people are complaining. anet cant win.
Yeah exactly, people should stop asking for improvements, just take what they give you, and if you don’t like then take a walk off the wvw plank and don’t return.
a change is irreversible, you can undo this change, stop trying to turn this into somthing it’s not.
So again guys, he’s absolutely right, you shouldn’t ask to improve the improvement, just take what you get, stop making a big deal and if you don’t like it then too bad go qq in the qq forums.
you can still use the old option yet people are complaining. anet cant win.
Yeah exactly, people should stop asking for improvements, just take what they give you, and if you don’t like then take a walk off the wvw plank and don’t return.
zergSounds like you all need a rev in your party.
engineerSounds like you all need a engineer in your party.
rangerSounds like you all need a ranger in your party.
stealth trapSounds like you all need a stealth trap in your party.
Sounds like you all need a zerg for your roaming.
Like why would the enemies be green dots…..so confusing
Because they are from the Green server? And Blue dots – Blue server? And Red dots – Red server? Wow, so confusing, better have those old 3-4 words + guild tag nameplates so you can’t see kitten in a blobfight.
Ever heard the expression red is dead? Enemy nameplates traditionally is in red (in pretty much every game in existence), blue and green is usually party or ally colors, I can see why it would be confusing. There’s already color coded models, no need for names too.
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I have a much better idea.
Get rid of the ‘three server model’.Go to a two server only model and stop the idiocy of five versus three servers.
A fair fight is one v one – in any mode.
What do you think will happen when one side dominates the other side for the week? Can you imagine any server versus Blackgate alone?
The real problem with the 3 sided model is there is currently nothing in place to drive 2nd and 3rd after 1st, instead it’s just better for 1st 2nd after 3rd.
If they wanted to encourage people to attack tier3 stuff: increase the points for capturing tier3 stuff is enough.
That’s an advantage for the attacker and no incentive for the defender to actually defend it anymore beyond t1, might as well let you flip it at t1 because it gives you less points but it’ll be worth the same ppt to the defender either way. Only thing that would be worth defending is the keeps for waypoints, everything else would just be backcapped.
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Hey.. pssst.. the TC rp’ers would like to have a word with you and your campaign to take away their favorite toys.
When warning comes, you log off right away.
It is known.
The trolls already troll team chat, can you imagine if they had access to all pve zones as well. Chat moderation would go up 10x, and 1000x on maguuma alone.
You might want to sticky and lock the thread, like the Glicko Temporary Manual Adjustments thread, not lock and close the thread. I assume the strikeout in the title means it’s closed anyways.
I thought originally they were just going to increase the points per capture, not the ppt as well. Although if you don’t increase the ppt what’s the point of upgrading a structure when it only gets more valuable to the enemy.
But they could have also gone the way of just increasing points per capture and per upgrade level, and left the ppt alone at the base.
In the end… who really cares anymore, a couple extra points is not going to motivate people to take t3 structures, it comes back down to whether or not you have enough people on at the time to take it, there’s a reason it got to t3 in the first place.
Is it dying? No.
Are there fewer people playing WvW than there used to be? I would definitely say so from my experience, and in all four tiers too, but I don’t play NA Prime so can’t speak for that.Is WvW lacking direction at the moment? It seems so.
Is it still fun? It is for me although it varies match to match.
I don’t know how people can say this with a straight face. Obviously it’s dying, it’s obvious it has way less players than even 6 months ago, nevermind what it was before hot or at release. They’ve had to fold the servers in half with links to get it back to pre hot level, and even now it feels like it could use another fold.
Please stop trying to hide that fact, call it like it is.
People come in here to complain because the current format will not sustain itself, and there’s barely anything to get new players into the game mode. While some of you might see a lot of qq and salt, a lot of changes that made it into the game were born from these forums.
A loud minority may be in here, but at least there’s someone to say something, than the other silent half that just packed their bags and left never to come back to the game.
Forums exist for the loud minority to complain about what they feel is wrong with everything while the majority of the players just enjoy the game and never even think to look at the forums.
People don’t generally have a great night of WvW and run to the forums to tell everyone about it. They have a terrible night and then look for somewhere to vent their frustrations.
So uh, why has wvw been dying? And do you feel like nothing should be said and instead anet so have just gone along business as usual like the first 3 years?
P.S before you sayed it, there were many sane constructive discussions over the years, it’s just to the point now that players realize there’s no point to do doing so anymore.
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You know nothing John Snow.
You don’t get thrown into groups when you go into the pve maps, so why should they for wvw when there are many players who do their own thing solo or with their own groups.
If you want to be more informed about what’s happening around you have several places to look. Commander tags and squads, some are open and you are allowed to self join them, the ones closed are most likely coordinated groups like guilds who are using voice chat. Voice chat such as discord or teamspeak etc, every server uses one, get on it and join the public channels, some of the lower population servers don’t have many in there that’s just how it is.
Team and Map chat, while it has clutter on it, it does also have the scout reports and sometimes the commander is commanding through those channels. Join a wvw guild, run with them and only have to worry about running with them during raids. You can see team mates around you on the map, the ones that are further away, well there are other tell tale signs, did a sentry or camp just flip to your color? did a tower just flip your color? well maybe the group is there, follow the trail of white and orange swords.
Part of the experience of wvw is learning the map and it’s shortcuts, learning to avoid or finding groups, yes dying has a big penalty of sending you back to spawn on the long run back, that’s also why waypoints at the keeps are important to have. That should also be a motivator to play better, read situations better, and try not to die as often. Warriors also happen to be one of the better mobile classes in the game.
What you are doing is sitting around waiting for an invite, that’s your problem there, you have to reach out to join others on the map. If you want your front line warrior to be effective you’re going to have to join groups to share boons heals condi clears and stability, but frankly the current meta doesn’t call for frontline warriors, blame anet on that.
If you can’t find a squad, then make your own. But it sounds like you need to join a regular wvw guild.
It’s never too late to update and save wvw!
In fact they should look into billboard advertisement on sides of structures, who would like the defend the [~Coke~] garrison which has snow all over the place, or [Energizer] or [Duracell] towers and make the tower roof copper or silver. Or [Red Lobster] bay, just make sure to add more lobsters crabs and shrimp to the surrounding water, and last but not least [Disney] Castle in ebg.
Probably bring in more money than gem sales and be able to hire a dev or two to help with wvw, part time of course as they have to work on new pve stuff for the expansion too.
Know how many times I’ve already replied there’s no one big major overhaul coming, and that it was already broken into the pieces we got this year. Also Colin hasn’t been running anything in gw2 since like the beginning of the year, so things changed. They had another piece of the overhaul plan which they decided to hold and use links instead.
P.S it was also explained by Tyler a while back
No player facing features for the ‘WvW overhaul’ were started until after HoT shipped. The frequently referenced ‘1 year of development’ refers to our efforts to restructure the WvW backend to actually be flexible enough to support these types of player facing features that we are working on now.
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People still say they don’t want rewards in wvw increased /shrug
Go farm auric basin meta.
I guess you mean a glicko adjustment and not “score”, because the score will reset with no adjustments. For more balance play TC should be hoping to roll t2 in place of Mag.
This is what will happen this week.
11/16/16 Glicko Adjustments
Far Shiverpeaks: -50
Dragonbrand: +50
There’s really only one real choice no matter what role you play or what tier you want to be in, Blackgate. They need more quality roamers to help get their kdr up, they need zergs to help hold off the mass of barbarians at the doors of their keeps and towers, they need havoc groups to help hold their camps. Their population currently is under even the last place server of crystal desert/darkhaven/devona’s rest, so you can imagine they are in urgent need of players in order to keep their current rank. Their current population is playing overtime in order to cover the weak time zones, so that they don’t appear weak to their enemies, but they will need relief soon. Blackgate is also the hotbed for raiding, so if you ever need a server to fill all your needs for wvw pve and spvp, blackgate would be the one.
Unfortunately Anet has forced the server closed for whatever reasons, so I would suggest to any potential future disciples of blackgate to make sure they have enough gems in store, so that when the server reopens you will be able to get in immediately. There’s no reason to create threads and shop for any other server.
We like killing siege junkies
If only you could kill server mates, new full time job amirite?
That would be a Maguuma Gangsta’s Paradise.
Cue the music Coolio
“As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death
I take a look at my life and realize there’s nothin’ left
‘Cause I’ve been blasting and laughing so long,
That even my mama thinks that my mind is gone
But I ain’t never crossed a man that didn’t deserve it
Me be treated like a punk you know that’s unheard of
You better watch how you’re talking and where you’re walking
Or you and your homies might be lined in chalk
I really hate to trip but I gotta loc
As they croak, I see myself in the pistol smoke, fool
I’m the kinda G the little homies wanna be like
On my knees in the night saying prayers in the streetlight
Been spending most their lives, living in the gangsta’s paradise
Been spending most their lives, living in the gangsta’s paradise
Keep spending most our lives, living in the gangsta’s paradise
Keep spending most our lives, living in the gangsta’s paradise
Look at the situation they got me facin’
I can’t live a normal life, I was raised by the streets
So I gotta be down with the hood team
Too much television watching got me chasing dreams
I’m an educated fool with money on my mind
Got my 10 in my hand and a gleam in my eye
I’m a loc’d out gangsta set trippin’ banger
And my homies is down so don’t arouse my anger, fool
Death ain’t nothing but a heartbeat away,
I’m living life, do or die, what can I say
I’m 23 now, but will I live to see 24
The way things are going I don’t know
Tell me why are we so blind to see
That the ones we hurt are you and me
Been spending most their lives, living in the gangsta’s paradise
Been spending most their lives, living in the gangsta’s paradise
Keep spending most our lives, living in the gangsta’s paradise
Keep spending most our lives, living in the gangsta’s paradise
Power and the money, money and the power
Minute after minute, hour after hour
Everybody’s running, but half of them ain’t looking
What’s going on in the kitchen, but I don’t know what’s cookin’
They say I gotta learn, but nobody’s here to teach me
If they can’t understand it, how can they reach me
I guess they can’t, I guess they won’t
I guess they front, that’s why I know my life is out of luck, fool
Been spending most their lives, living in the gangsta’s paradise
Been spending most their lives, living in the gangsta’s paradise
Keep spending most our lives, living in the gangsta’s paradise
Keep spending most our lives, living in the gangsta’s paradise
Tell me why are we so blind to see
That the ones we hurt are you and me
Tell me why are we so blind to see
That the ones we hurt are you and me"
So are you asking for 1 server or 3? Cause you know matches are in sets of 3.
Having 1 server of mainly ocx/sea vs 2 na servers in matchups could be interesting… and yet very lopsided, having 3 would fight themselves, forever. After 4 years I doubt they would spend the resources to setup a server down under, especially since their financials have been dropping the last 6 months.
Yes wvw is fixed, anet sets the team sizes with links, and boosts glicko for certain servers….
/lebrontrollace
What is Maguuma’s goal in making this kind of ridiculous game? In all WvW time I have never seen this kind of low level atitutu, this is certain that capturing the castle is part of the game, plus doing respawn kill, that is too much. Any acceptable explanation for this kind of attitude?
Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.
Why.. so.. serious?
Present day wvw needs to be revitalized, it needs solid recruitment for any player looking for organized and skill play. From the dawn of the game wvw players played in wvw and ignored pve because it wasn’t a challenge. What kept wvw refreshed with new recruits, is players from pve learning and loving the wvw side of the game. With the introduction of mega servers it became increasing difficult to recruit new players to individual servers, and left the only option for a pve player to explore the pve side of the game.
With heart of thorns and the introduction of raids, the game took a step forward into more organized and skill play in pve, this is something that needs to be capitalized on now for wvw. As wvw sinks into it’s twilight age, we need to remind players of legendary achievements and help guide them to the other side of the game in wvw once more. What most pve players don’t even realize with 10 man raids, is they’ve also been given an introductory look into training for 10-20 man organized guild play. What they have learned in skill rotations, trait builds, positioning, proper preparation of food and oils, were all being done in wvw years before raids were even introduced into gw2!
To merge raiding and wvw, players will need to be on one server. What better server for them to experience this, than the one that holds the honor of being the world first tequalt revamp killer. The server that paved the way for raiding with zergs in pve and wvw, where many came to learn and also achieve the same as those first hundred players did years ago. In order to maintain a high quality standard of players for wvw since, this server has been closed for many years, with very few small windows of opportunity to be accepted into it’s ranks. Wvw is dying at a faster rate than before and so exceptions must be made, blackgate needs to be reopen. All servers need to be open, please and thank you.
The new skirmish rewards will now be yellow items so you can break them down for ectos.
You won’t see legendary armor parts given out anywhere but the raids, it will be the highest prestige item in the game. It would be nice if they treated pve wvw spvp evenly and gave methods to obtain those prestige items in each, but obviously pve will always win on the shiny stuff, and if you hand it out in other ways that diminish their value to them pve will complain. Legendary armors will be one of the main driving factors in getting players to do raids for years to come.
Adding bloodlust ruins to the Oasis a bit unimaginative.
The mega laser was terrible, so whatever happens don’t bring it back.
I would propose adding a tower in the Oasis. The kind that grants an easy path to attack the earth keep. For example access to an elevated position for a trebuchet which can be defended from the tower. Or to a tunnel below the keep which can also be used by the south camp dolyak to supply the keep.
Make wvw great again, add the washington monument to the middle of the desert.
Wait… make wvw double great again, add the washington monument to the middle of the colosseum in the middle of the desert with a moat and ramps that lead to each keep, with random gladiator and braveheart theme songs playing when you enter.
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Copy paste obsidian sanctum arena in the middle of the desert, then play the gladiator theme every time you walk through it.
Eh such a long post, you could just sum it up in one sentence:
“Anet please glicko adjust YB down, please and thank you.”
Sounds like they need to open BG to drain some of that roamer population from Mag, BG is in need of quality roamers.
Sounds like they need to open BG to drain some players from Mag, so they can help break these long keep sieges and spawn camping.
Why not record it to prove someone is cheating? It’s VERY easy to install and press a button to record. I’ve sent vids to anet instead of call “cheater” without proof. 99% of the time it’s just misinformation, a L2p issue, not knowing all aspects of the game.
I’m not calling you out per say, Grim Reaper, just saying make a recording(if it’s happening so much it should be easy to catch them), send it to exploits@arena.net. I hate cheaters as much as anyone.
There’s a video made of mag players jumping the wall from outer to inner garrison. Whether or the guy who made it sent it in I don’t know, but it was posted in here a couple weeks ago and on youtube somewhere.
I remember when YB got the Mal transfers and did the same thing to what used to be a fights tier in T2. Maybe many of the players on Mag remember.
Yeah they use to do that to SoS every reset. I remember even their fight guilds use to be out escorting yaks into hills and they would would have a ton of siege in there, holding it the entire weekend.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and YB did this more than enough times to others! time to take the medicine.
How about, just let BG have as many as they can fit on the maps. For instance, if the other servers have few players, just give the excess spots, to BG, so BG can have , oh lets say 200-300 per map, seems legit. Or every time someone logs off from a different server, or DC’s , just add a BG player………(please don’t think I am serious…lol)
Why? it’s a brilliant idea, BG will need extra spots for their growing population. No one deserves to sit in a queue. They’ll need to have enough room to fit all the roamers that can scout the entire map and keep it safe, trump wvw wall 2016.
These two ideas don’t really go well together.
If you won’t lose an upgraded structure if you have someone protecting or observing map, then why precisely is watchtower an issue? Watchtower is basically just a surrogate for a scout.
The only situation in which it actually matters is when you have so few people that you cannot actually observe all your objectives. Which is only on night hours.
So there’s an upgrade that makes it harder to nightcap towers.
???
What’s the problem? What precisely is bad at breaking the massive advantage nightcappers have?
1. It takes away the element of surprise for an attacking team that had 30s to setup before white swords went up. The element of surprise is the greatest asset for a havoc team to use.
2. A small group will not take the chance to take an upgraded structure unless they know the other side cannot respond in time, ie usually the stronger team would be in this situation. Hell the north towers in alpine spot you at the bottom before you hit the ramp. You can’t even take a small team and setup siege with initial supply and then run back to the camp for more supplies.
3. You know exactly how many are coming to that structure and how many you need to respond. Before you HAD to send a scout over to check on the numbers, now you just need to sit in spawn looking at the map to report the moment they walk into range.
They could improve the watch tower upgrade in any number of ways.
My guild use have 5-7 players on that would build 5 golems over a period of time on enemy borders, it took time transporting supplies in or taking from camps, then having to store and hide the golems, there’s about 10 good hiding spots on alpine you probably don’t even know exist. Sometimes we would cause a ruckus and the borderland would be flooded with enemies and we would have to wait and let it cool down.
Once it did we transported the golems to the keeps using mesmer ports and hidden cover, most times it was a tier 3 garrison we’d hit. We would hit watergate, we had 30s before white swords and had to build 2 rams at outer for the siege damage buff with the 5 golems, we would take an undefended garrison in under 3 minutes before the waypoint would open again. Sometimes people would be afk in lords, sometimes the wp opened and a few popped in, sometimes we had to hold the door, retap if needed.
We also use to do the same by setting up 4-5 guild catas on the tier 3 north towers using the camp for supply.
That isn’t even remotely possible today with watch tower and emergency waypoint, it’s just better to hit with bigger numbers.
So, it might have solved a night capping issue where a lot less players were active, where it’s known that most servers have lopsided coverage for a few hours, and you probably lose the structure anyways cause you don’t have enough to respond, at least you’ll know they’ll be taking it 30s sooner than usual.
standing for hours in towers and scouting was one of the most boring, unrewarding and time wasting activity you could do in this game, so I am glad Anet gave us the opportunity to remove the need for scouts in towers.
Crafting a watchtower tactivator costs 2-3g, so it is not exactly for free either
There are players who like to defend and tend to stay on maps doing just that, including build and maintaining siege for those attacks. It’s not like white or orange swords don’t exist. If you don’t like to scout, you don’t have to.
People kept asking to split zergs up, but then they added something that hampered small groups and encouraged zerging instead. GG.
No changes needed. Small groups should not be able to take upgraded structures.
You wouldn’t lose an upgraded structure if you actually had people defending it or watching the map for white swords.
Watch tower was one of the dumbest upgrades added that destroyed small group play.
Hoping anet can tell us the next time they think BG would be open, still need to get my alt alts over there. Reddit for the win. Would have to schedule some sick days off for that time to get some gold farming done for the transfer fee, and if it closes before I’m done hopefully they will reopen it again a day later. So you’ve read this far huh. Also my cat would like to transfer his one button ghost teef over to BG for some roaming action, (the more you stack bg the less you have to worry about zergs running you over on the other sides!). Throwing some salt around for some forums traction. In advance I’d like to look for a guild of roamers on BG, we don’t need to play together, I don’t like playing with others anyways but want the perks, any loner roamer guilds around? Is playing a druid accepted on BG? If you’re still reading this you earned a cookie. Would like to play a tank druid that shadows pug commanders and their pugs all day for the free bags. Anet likes wasting resources. I use staff and double superior sigil of fire to make sure I tag everything. Wonder if BG still does friday night aa meetings before reset. I hope anet can provide free transfers to BG next time, I have three accounts to move.
I second this, please leave all servers open for transfers so that players don’t miss out on three days of transfers, and can still play with their loved ones.
any reason we shouldn’t have more ppl come play if all sever has queue?
Yes. there are servers that don’t have queues and could use more people. If you choose to stay in a stacked server, you are choosing to deal with the queues.
this is why i say when all 3 server has queue at same map
than add map limit, so other time still same as old daynot the add limit all the time
and don’t worry me, i alwayts in map, this pic just for topic
Boy, these guys come in here thinking wvw revolves around them. Every server is under the same restrictions, if you increase map caps to accommodate those servers that have a queues you’ll make it even more unfair as not all servers have the same population. You’ll probably even encourage stacking on 3 servers even more, cause hey if we have queues just raise the map cap. Also raising map caps will probably cause more lag in the maps with more players around.
If you’re getting queues, deal with it.
If you’re on BG then too bad, your buddies wanted the server open for transfers.
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