Anyway, I won’t endorse ppl saying “try not to make your server fail”, because if you’re new, you’re here to learn, and if so, you’re expected and allowed to sometimes fail. Especially in PvP fights that are mostly far more difficult than PvE ones.
Funny thing is there’s still a lot of players who have been around for 3 years still making stupid mistakes, stuff that even common sense should tell you not to do, but it somehow doesn’t click with them.
But yeah wvw is a learning experience, it’s stuff you have to actually experience and learn from, stuff like siege placements, counter siege placements, scout and commander calls, learning your class and what you can and cannot do, learn the flow of battle and positioning, reading enemy movement on the map, supply management, do’s and don’t, like don’t repair a wall that’s being trebbed until the treb is down or you’re wasting supply, and so much more.
Stuff like that you can’t teach with an npc, some of it you can with a wvw guild, but some of it you just need to experience it to get it, roaming, havoc, zerging, all have their own tricks to learn, the more you play the more you pick up over time.
Well, no, they’re more sort of “prodding”. Like they’re prodding when they put fractals (which most PvEers don’t do) in the PvE dailies. Or when they put the exotic berserker aquabreather (mostly useful to dungeon/fractal people) in sPvP. Or when they expect WvWers to map complete PvE. And they seem to mostly succeed in annoying everybody.
edit: Anet shouldn’t pester people into WvW against their will and hope some of them stick. They should rather make WvW interesting enough that people want to try it. Then they should make the barrier to entry as low as possible, so that people actually try it rather than saying “I’d like to try it, but the problem is…”.
I’m fine with them putting stuff in dailies, when dailies first started out it was very limited, and we clammered for more variety in dailies for every section, pve wvw spvp, to the point it’s at now.
The hard hooks which “force” people into other sections of the game I don’t agree with as well, but well there should be something to entice players to give them a look at least.
One of the problems with wvw is the limited recruitment because of the megaservers, and the loss of callouts in LA for reinforcements. Tournaments use to bring in new players, some of which stayed in wvw, my guild was a testament to that, but there’s problems with those and they no longer want to run them.
Maybe if they ran more special events as promotions it would help, course the last one they did, golem week, turned into a disaster. But even running the wvw buff more regularly like they do with spvp may help pique some player interest from time to time.
As for a low barrier of entry, I tend to look at wvw somewhat like an endgame area like raids, and normally the entry to raids takes practice through dungeons. For wvw I look at eotm as that bridge, mind you it was opened as a place to temporarily play while waiting in queue, but it became a good spot to level so many players did that rather than grinding in pve.
In eotm you can learn wvw basics in there, even if it’s just following a zerg around taking stuff, there’s other stuff to learn if you pick up on them, keeping an eye out and reading enemy movement on the map, learning the flow of battle and positioning, which are very important to keep yourself alive.
Sorry about the long post, just thought it was some good quotes for discussion.
Another derailing post. ^^
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