It comes down to personal preference. Which one has a playstyle you like more. My suggestion is to buy a set of Rare armor for each and give each a try for a while. If you decide you hate one set or the other, use a Master (or Black Lion) Salvage Kit on the armor you don’t want. You should average an Ecto about 90% of the time which can really help recoup your losses (if you bought the sets via buy orders, you can even MAKE a bit of money this way sometimes). Then you can start working on an exotic set for whichever build you end up liking.
And I’d actually disagree with the previous two posters about which is best where.
Condi Necros have a few major advantages in zergs. Epidemic is ungodly powerful in a zerg fight if you pick the right target. The Staff is probably our strongest zerg weapon and it’s strongest on condi Necros. And since condi specs are unlikely to be focused in a zerg fight if they position correctly, they will be able to toss out their damage in the manner which they prefer: more carefully and deliberately, building their damage. It’s true that you run into condition caps and AoE condi clears more easily in zergs, but it is profoundly unlikely that everyone on the enemy team will constantly be capped for every condition and having more condi-spec’ed characters makes it easier to overwhelm the enemy zerg’s condi removal.
Power Necros can still be useful in zergs but they have way less at-range AoE damage than Condi Necros. They can still use the staff deftly, but their damage will be somewhat stunted compared to their true heights. Conversely, I generally find my necro’s Power build letting her tear through enemy roamers in 1v1 and even some 1v2 situations (it’s very difficult for Necros of any stripe to fight more than 2 opponents at a time, and even fighting 2 is extremely dangerous if they’re any good), whereas my Condi build has a rougher time dealing with targets who can disengage well.
I’ll agree with one thing that is does come down to personally preference but in the end power builds are better in large scale organized fights. I say organized because you can get away with a lot when pug stomping but when a guild is well trained, they will be running cleanses often and water fields for healing making DoT’s less effective. I understand that it may be hard or impossible for zergs to cleanse all the conditions but if your plan is to overload with conditions to waste cleanses you are also wasting a lot of dps to do so. Also since Necros are quite common in zergs your giving them more use of staff #4 and making there heal stronger. (understandably unavoidable but the point still stands) Epidemic is subpar for a few reasons, the cast time makes it unreliable to transfer the correct conditions. The person can have lost/cleared the condition by the time the cast finishes thus wasting the skill. (regardless of how short the CD is, wasting it is still a drop in over all dps.) The skill has a higher failure rate then other more beneficial skills that should be used like well of corruption or darkness.
Who’s crying? The 2v1 was to be expected. I seem to remember a lot of crying about Waha focusing SoR in our last match together…
All in all JQ brought out the big guns this week and I hope they win this week and take the #1 spot on the rankings. Good for them its quite obvious that they worked hard for it and deserve it. I know BG seems to be taking it easy this week but that’s no excuse, JQ came up and proved a lot of people wrong and now we might have the match up everyone wanted. All 3 servers have held first place, now we all get to fight for it.
Easy, increase AoE to hit 10 people instead of 5… Thus a group of 5 can stop a 50 man zerg, grats.
Anet has already explained that it’s not easy and reasons they won’t do that. Also it works both ways, no matter how you cut it 5 people won’t be able to stop a 50 man zerg. Increasing AoE caps would only make larger groups stronger, if you want to better promote small groups you have to find a way to change the way safety in numbers works in this game with out punishing players for playing the way they want.
Yeah, but what about bosses and PvP? LB is our main source of power weapon with cleave (traited)
Life Blast doesn’t cleave it can pierce with the trait which is different. But on the subject of cleave…Axe #2 should cleave and they should adjust the LF regain accordingly.
On topic, with how much I would love for them to increase the Life Force regain on Axe, I do think it would push the limits of over powered and end up getting nerfed to the ground quite quickly.
For WvW I wouldn’t go and say its bad but there are better options to go with. Depending on if your with a zerg or roaming other skills may be more beneficial and like Bhawb said in any small to medium sized fight people will just move out of it. (kinda the same problem with wells) For zergs, well of corruption is just better for the boon strips or darkness assuming you have Chilling Darkness.
Anyway, I’m just trying to find some things that would improve small squad play and decrease zerg play.
To do so, you would have to break the “safety in number” mentality. Problem is that they want to promote group play so they won’t punish large groups. This means anything they do to help small groups will basically be even better in a large group.
Stop thinking of the tiers as being somehow indicative of skill or winning. Tiers are merely a barometer of wold population and activity.
There’s a lot more to it then just skill or population. If you look at the current T1 match (not the scores, the game play) TC has close to equal numbers in NA prime but the reason they don’t do as well as SoR or BG (overall) is because of the current meta Tier 1 has. They are used to smaller groups of ~25 while we are more used to ~40+ and having to match those numbers. As far as skill, all servers have very skilled players but its hard for some guilds to compete in “Tier 1” that’s not saying they are not good because I’m sure they are, but would they be used to defending a keep from 5 golems and 50 people consistently? Probably not.
Some of the guilds that “GvG” do allot for their servers but that doesn’t matter those guilds would have their own interests at heart. In the instance the T1 match up it was a Pve guild.
And bro why would you talk about someones guild when you don’t know what guild it is? you got beef lol.. are you in T1? aww to bad we could have "GvG"ed it out lol.
What BG PvE guild GvG’s? Just wondering you can PM me it if you don’t want to put them on blast.
Thanks for the week match was fun. Good try SoR ^^, see you on next reset. XD
Giving pugs a tag doesnt make them anyhow better or more skilled but it looks like the guild is large. it’s only a lure.
This week was intense but BG won.
Titan War
in all honesty, seen bigger comeback
Right now there is exactly 25h left until match ends. so its 100tics. BG lead by 16 000 it means SoR have to hold an average +160ppt on 25hours long on the BG scoring: that will never happen so better go to pavillion to make some gold and keep your strenght for next reset now. XD
The overall points to gain are around 70000+/-5%. Considering the TC ratio they will gain 130k/530k=0.2452 X70000 =17169 +/-5% (so between 16311 and 18027) Then TC final score will be very close to 146807 (between 145949 and 147665)
So there is an overal points left of 70000-17169=52831 to share between BG and SoR. BG has 16k points ahead so it gives a net points left of 52831-16000=36831 points that will be available to BG and SoR. it means if BG gain more than 18k points in next 25hours we can’t loose anyhow.
Final score will be BG 225000 SoR 210000 TC 146000
Pop-Corn and Champagne for all
Well you might want to get in there and flip some camps because they have 250 PPT on us right now and going into NA where they have a good chance to maintain a high PPT. So they can make a comeback, It may not be probable but it is possible.
Are you actually telling us that you yourself ask the guilds on watch if you can and if a commander say’s no you don’t…. you turn off your stream.. cancel your plans.. and waste your prep time…. can you guys smell that it’s bull#$%#.
There has been quite a few times where a guild had notified the map commander at the time so we can plan accordingly. If you know 2 guilds are GvGing you know which server is going to have less players on the field and who you can focus and who you may need to defend from. I would assume most commanders would not have issues with this out side of NA prime time when competition akittens highest.
Look flute, Its quite obvious that the majority of people that have posted in your threads have disagreed with you on some points. If you feel this strongly about the issue, you should bring it up in a very constructive manner on Blackgates web site and talk to the server “leaders” to try and get some follow up on the guide lines for GvG. Thing is when some one doesn’t follow these guide lines you can’t just all mad about flame a guild because of it. In the end its a game and WvW is a open world, they can do what ever they want. All of the guild I know contribute a lot of their time to PPT and to think less of them because they take a hour to GvG isn’t going to help the community.
All in all bring this topic up here when your issue is really with your own server is only going to start controversy. You have to understand that a lot of other servers don’t focus PPT the same way Blackgate does. If the main argument is “kill trading” then come up with a way to prove they are farming kills and report it to anet. As far as they are going to be concerned at this point is it is a meta players created and probably won’t do anything about until/if they add a real GvG game mode. (even then I bet guilds will still do it in WvW time to time)
What is tier 1?
I found this site: http://mos.millenium.org/na It lists the servers 1 – 15.
Is tier 1 the top 5 servers, top 10?
With random match ups tiers are kinda misplaced. Before Tier 1 would be the top 3 servers by rating. Now you can look at it 2 ways, a tier 1 server is the top 3 servers by rating (BG/SoR/JQ) or you can say the first match on the list is tier 1 (SoR/BG/TC) The term “Tier” is more in reference to placement.
On topic, I find some good fights solo roaming in tier 1 right now with TC here. But like every one said it is very hard to find small groups or solo fights. I don’t know much about the lower servers but if your looking to only roam T1 might not be the right place but there are some really good small man groups on SoR and BG.
I agree liquid, but since it isn’t an everyday thing anyway why couldn’t it be done on the day before reset to eliminate any inconvenience.
Because of scheduling issues. Not everyone can just play when ever they want. Also NA guilds that have players that work 9 to 5. There are a lot of reasons why GvG happen through out the week.
This doesn’t make sense. I understand that people work 9-5 but in a 48 hour period (The day before reset and reset day) it shouldn’t matter if there are scheduling issues in that large of a period I would think they would be impossible to work around during the week and all the maps are full on the weekends.
I was only using that as a example, there could be any number of reasons.
I agree liquid, but since it isn’t an everyday thing anyway why couldn’t it be done on the day before reset to eliminate any inconvenience.
Because of scheduling issues. Not everyone can just play when ever they want. Also NA guilds that have players that work 9 to 5. There are a lot of reasons why GvG happen through out the week.
So, playing the game is “grinding” in your eyes?
Because that is exactly what these achievements are about. Playing WvW. By playing WvW you will, sooner or later, finish these achievements.
I know that you feel compelled (or paid) to always defend ANet, but at least try to be objective. How about actually quantifying what “sooner or later” is before making such a comment. Please offer your own calculated estimate of how long you think a truly serious player would take to complete a few of those achievements. I’ll bet you don’t, but it should be humorous if you do.
It takes about 7 years of non stop 24/7 playing to get some of these WvW achievements in there current state. So it would probably take around 14+ years for most to some people to get these. That said, Anet has already addressed this issue in other threads and are looking into a away to adjust them but its not as easy as just typing different numbers. Also these achievements are not a main issue in WvW and they should look at other issues as a higher priority.
no strong single target burst (Wells are a Necro’s strongest burst, and they are stationary, AoE, but still avoidable).
Also not true.
There are lots of ways to burst down single targets as a necro, not just power builds with wells. Laying down Well of Suffering will increase your burst damage regardless of the build, but that’s not all there’s to it.
One more thing:
In WvW the biggest difference besides the support role in a zerg is this: as an ele you can suvive longer (or indefinitely) against weaker players than yourself. The necro can’t, either you finish the fight early or you’ll be worn down eventually.
However, on equal skill necros are stronger than eles. In 1v1 encounters, even if the ele tries to counterbuild, the necro holds the stronger cards. Doesn’t matter if you play conditions or power… if both players are on a high skill lvl the necro will likely be the winner of a duel.
None of the Necromancer’s burst is strong single target, it’s strong AoE.
Name me one way Necromancer is superior to an Ele as a roamer in WvW.
I run a 30/10/0/0/30 build in WvW and its great for roaming. Is it better then a ele, probably not in the grand scheme of things but I do quite well. I normally don’t have issues in most 2v1 situations but it does get hard in 3+v1. That might be my skill level as well, I’m not the greatest out there by any means. Also with life blast and dagger the main source of damage is single target, I agree with you in saying that wells are not good for roaming unless you have some one that can lock down your target for you.
So I disagree with saying they are “weak” out side of the zerg but I’m not saying they are stronger then eles or thieves.
What they need is a tab that can hold siege and food. A quick access bag slot if you will. Have it attach to your map or something and you can open the tab and click what you need.
Not sure why people are still giving this guy attention, when it’s clear that no matter what argument is presented, he’ll just respond rudely. He would have had a valid point to argue if he hadn’t resorted to that — now all I see is troll, troll, troll.
It’s the Internet, you all know how that works, especially on forums. And frankly this thread isn’t worth anyone’s time.
At this point it’s pointless feeding. I know I won’t change his mind but he wants to keep digging so let him keep talking and look silly. It’s no biggy for me to tab over and respond with some silly counter point every so often.
GvG is a myth in this game. Fantasy created by wannabes and tryhards who never lived up to the elitist standards that defined Guild vs Guild. Sowwy anet didn’t cater to the casuals by totally disrespecting the thousands of players who did compete honorably for the past 8 years in true GvG. But they still disagree with you. In fact, if my guild wants, it could easily just steamroll with a zerg over your silly little wannabe gvg’s and it’s well within the parameters of the game.
I’m not going to quote the definition of myth but you may want to look it up. But us “wannabes” and “tryhards” are truly sorry that anet didn’t live up to you 8 year long expectation. It must hurt knowing that you spent 8 years playing a game mode that is no longer relevant and no one cares about anymore. Time to adapt unless you think GW1 is going to make some glorious come back…doubtful…
You should take your zerg and steamroll any GvG (thats what you called them right? just want to make sure…) so you your self are not contributing to the game of WvW and are also a reason for complaint in the original topic of this post. Have fun crashing other peoples fun then either run and hide or get farmed. And before you come here and defend the awesomeness of your guild, no one cares, there are good guilds on all servers and I’m sure most the guilds on SoR and BG that GvG would be happy to open field fight your zerg any day. Maybe when your done slumming it with mag?
Then why do some guilds consistently win? If there is no skill involved, wouldn’t wins be more random?
You might want to try reading those posts again…Caliban said there is skill involved while PsychoticWaltz noted he wasn’t claiming it’s as skillful as gw1 GvG. Try harder.
sorry, but there’s nothing skilled about zerg vs zerg.
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Then why do some guilds consistently win? If there is no skill involved, wouldn’t wins be more random?
There’s still a gap between good players and bad. However, the watered down structure of this game’s idea of GvG is deplorable. And honestly, without a dedicated healer class and the meltdown of the ‘Control’ aspect of the “new trinity” there is no brilliant display of true skill.
Look at mesmers. Once renowned for being super squishy and no way of dealing damage, they were also the most feared class in Guild Wars GvG. Their ability to shut down opponents and interrupt/distract/punish was one of the most skillful mechanics out of any game, ever. Anet decided to remove this because of QQ from people who failed at interrupts and claimed they were left out of being able to play the profession because of their ping. Now they’re a faceless caster who’s all but a shadow of their former selves. (Though I will admit I still enjoy playing mesmer, it still doesn’t live up to the master of control).
Monks: Responsible for keeping entire teams alive and absorbing large amounts of pressure. Sorry, but nothing in GW2 compares to a clutch infuse health on a target getting hit by a perfectly timed rangerspike, literally giving the player 1/4 of a second to react. Monks had to watch every single person on the battlefield, and learn and understand what was happening at all times. Sure, it’s impossible to know what every single player is doing at all times, but monks had to be kitten close to knowing just about all of it. Again, removed from the game because “monks make the game un-fun.”
This game’s references to GvG are abhorrent at best and again, like I stated before, most of the people who claim they are doing GvG haven’t. I don’t disrespect the idea of open field fighting, I do think it’s fun even though my posts may not make it obvious. However, do not confuse something that was easily the backbone of Guild Wars pvp with something that is now nothing close to the same.
Your whole argument is moot. This in not GW1 and for those that played GW1 can say that this game is much different, which I’m sure your aware of. GvG or Guild vs Guild would really be anything that has 2 guild pitted against each other. So just because you have some fabricated definition of what GvG is because you played a different game that defined it differently doesn’t mean you have any say on what it is or can be in this game.
As for comps and classes, the changes that anet makes may kill some classes viability but may buff others. Teams have to adapt, thats what makes it fun right? who wants to play the same build for ever…Monks? not in this game, makes no difference.
Pfft.
Same argument every time from some former WoW member who feels like they are “owning” by spamming their cookie-cutter builds that were picked out for them. “This isn’t GW1 this is are am gvg in gw2.”
Please..
Anyway, where do you think the term GvG came from? No, it wasn’t the GW2 fanbois in this game who had never gvg’d from gw1. It stole the term from it’s (much more impressive) predecessor.
Get over it.
Nice try dodging the statement by throwing out blind assumptions about other people. Point still stands 2 guilds fighting each other would be a guild vs a guild or GvG to make it easy on you. And regardless of where the term came from it still applies. Yo bro you guys don’t zerg! Zerg is a race in starcraft…. :S Sounds like a “GW1 fanboy” doesn’t get what he wants. Should cry about it more and see if you can change peoples minds with your pointless argument.
Then I’ll throw the same irrefutable argument at you that I just sprung up on the other tryhard.
Anet created Guild vs Guild. Anet created GvG for Guild Wars.
Anet created Guild Wars 2. Anet did not extend GvG to Guild Wars 2.
/thread
It’s weird that guilds continually have fights that consist of 1 guild fighting another guild. I’m not sure what that would be called…maybe GvG? Anet didn’t add a game mode for GvG so people took it upon then selves to create this game mode and use WvW as the field. Regardless of want you think, until anet adds a option separated from WvW there will still be GvG in WvW.
sorry, but there’s nothing skilled about zerg vs zerg.
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Then why do some guilds consistently win? If there is no skill involved, wouldn’t wins be more random?
There’s still a gap between good players and bad. However, the watered down structure of this game’s idea of GvG is deplorable. And honestly, without a dedicated healer class and the meltdown of the ‘Control’ aspect of the “new trinity” there is no brilliant display of true skill.
Look at mesmers. Once renowned for being super squishy and no way of dealing damage, they were also the most feared class in Guild Wars GvG. Their ability to shut down opponents and interrupt/distract/punish was one of the most skillful mechanics out of any game, ever. Anet decided to remove this because of QQ from people who failed at interrupts and claimed they were left out of being able to play the profession because of their ping. Now they’re a faceless caster who’s all but a shadow of their former selves. (Though I will admit I still enjoy playing mesmer, it still doesn’t live up to the master of control).
Monks: Responsible for keeping entire teams alive and absorbing large amounts of pressure. Sorry, but nothing in GW2 compares to a clutch infuse health on a target getting hit by a perfectly timed rangerspike, literally giving the player 1/4 of a second to react. Monks had to watch every single person on the battlefield, and learn and understand what was happening at all times. Sure, it’s impossible to know what every single player is doing at all times, but monks had to be kitten close to knowing just about all of it. Again, removed from the game because “monks make the game un-fun.”
This game’s references to GvG are abhorrent at best and again, like I stated before, most of the people who claim they are doing GvG haven’t. I don’t disrespect the idea of open field fighting, I do think it’s fun even though my posts may not make it obvious. However, do not confuse something that was easily the backbone of Guild Wars pvp with something that is now nothing close to the same.
Your whole argument is moot. This in not GW1 and for those that played GW1 can say that this game is much different, which I’m sure your aware of. GvG or Guild vs Guild would really be anything that has 2 guild pitted against each other. So just because you have some fabricated definition of what GvG is because you played a different game that defined it differently doesn’t mean you have any say on what it is or can be in this game.
As for comps and classes, the changes that anet makes may kill some classes viability but may buff others. Teams have to adapt, thats what makes it fun right? who wants to play the same build for ever…Monks? not in this game, makes no difference.
Pfft.
Same argument every time from some former WoW member who feels like they are “owning” by spamming their cookie-cutter builds that were picked out for them. “This isn’t GW1 this is are am gvg in gw2.”
Please..
Anyway, where do you think the term GvG came from? No, it wasn’t the GW2 fanbois in this game who had never gvg’d from gw1. It stole the term from it’s (much more impressive) predecessor.
Get over it.
Nice try dodging the statement by throwing out blind assumptions about other people. Point still stands 2 guilds fighting each other would be a guild vs a guild or GvG to make it easy on you. And regardless of where the term came from it still applies. Yo bro you guys don’t zerg! Zerg is a race in starcraft…. :S Sounds like a “GW1 fanboy” doesn’t get what he wants. Should cry about it more and see if you can change peoples minds with your pointless argument.
One thing people forget is even if Guilds drop from tier 1 servers, there are a lot of guilds that like playing together and will follow each other. 1 major guild could end up bring 2 or 3 smaller guilds with them shifting power to a different server. You might as well get used to having a few stacked servers. If its not BG and SoR it will be some one else. There will always be one top server and other server recruiting to beat them.
sorry, but there’s nothing skilled about zerg vs zerg.
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Then why do some guilds consistently win? If there is no skill involved, wouldn’t wins be more random?
There’s still a gap between good players and bad. However, the watered down structure of this game’s idea of GvG is deplorable. And honestly, without a dedicated healer class and the meltdown of the ‘Control’ aspect of the “new trinity” there is no brilliant display of true skill.
Look at mesmers. Once renowned for being super squishy and no way of dealing damage, they were also the most feared class in Guild Wars GvG. Their ability to shut down opponents and interrupt/distract/punish was one of the most skillful mechanics out of any game, ever. Anet decided to remove this because of QQ from people who failed at interrupts and claimed they were left out of being able to play the profession because of their ping. Now they’re a faceless caster who’s all but a shadow of their former selves. (Though I will admit I still enjoy playing mesmer, it still doesn’t live up to the master of control).
Monks: Responsible for keeping entire teams alive and absorbing large amounts of pressure. Sorry, but nothing in GW2 compares to a clutch infuse health on a target getting hit by a perfectly timed rangerspike, literally giving the player 1/4 of a second to react. Monks had to watch every single person on the battlefield, and learn and understand what was happening at all times. Sure, it’s impossible to know what every single player is doing at all times, but monks had to be kitten close to knowing just about all of it. Again, removed from the game because “monks make the game un-fun.”
This game’s references to GvG are abhorrent at best and again, like I stated before, most of the people who claim they are doing GvG haven’t. I don’t disrespect the idea of open field fighting, I do think it’s fun even though my posts may not make it obvious. However, do not confuse something that was easily the backbone of Guild Wars pvp with something that is now nothing close to the same.
Your whole argument is moot. This in not GW1 and for those that played GW1 can say that this game is much different, which I’m sure your aware of. GvG or Guild vs Guild would really be anything that has 2 guild pitted against each other. So just because you have some fabricated definition of what GvG is because you played a different game that defined it differently doesn’t mean you have any say on what it is or can be in this game.
As for comps and classes, the changes that anet makes may kill some classes viability but may buff others. Teams have to adapt, thats what makes it fun right? who wants to play the same build for ever…Monks? not in this game, makes no difference.
So these players spent thousands of gems to transfer to your server? And then spent thousands to transfer back? All to destroy a few golems which will likely have no lasting impact on the week’s matchup which provides almost no reward for winning anyways? Sounds plausible.
Its very doubtful that some one would transfer for griefing but a lot of people have 2 or 3 accounts that are on other servers. This way there main account would stay on the main server and the other accounts could be used with out being linked to the player. This is why when you hear about “spys” or WvW griefing its assumed its someone from another server because its easily done and buying a 2nd copy of GW2 isn’t that expensive.
As for rewards…what does a troll ever win really? Its there sick enjoyment of other peoples misfortune. They know that if they destroy 5 golems, that’s 500 supply wasted and upsets people for wasting there time.
It’s threads like these that portray tier 1 in a bad light. I don’t think every map had ques which were so long and this is an extreme case since JQ did this well in a matchup . But it could also be possible that all the PVE’rs are out for map completion.
I have a quote from someone on SoR saying that they don’t have a queue on all 4 BLs during all primetimes on a Tuesday night, and that’s why the recruited more guilds.
T1 is in a bad light because it’s “T1”. In a game where winning gives you no prize, a lot of people sure like winning.
No server can Queue all 4 maps on every prime time…I don’t know about SoR but Blackgate doesn’t even queue all 4 maps during NA prime (Normally). And its no secret SoR is trying to recruit SEA/OC guilds to combat BG, just like BG would like some EU to fight SoR.
It’s funny how some many people talk bad about T1 yet we still continually get guilds and people coming here…must not be that bad…
Carter.9250:
Runamok.9638:
NA Guilds leaving from JQ to SoR for the lulz. Are you going to be the ones sitting out reset tonight because all 4 maps have completely queued coverage? Does not surprise me given the weak kitten constitution of those guilds. Winners winners chicken dinners.
-brotha
That’s actually not true, we had low covered during NA primetime in one of our borderlands.
Poster was SoR.
People want to move where it’s easy – that’s why they move to T1. When you have more people to take up your slack, IE the casuals can sit back and wait for the hardcore guilds to provide a big lead, they start to play more. Where if you have a server with almost no hardcores and lots of casuals, you get people packing it in on Monday.
If I remember right that post came from the match thread and should be taken lightly. There is a lot of fabricated hate in the match thread that doesn’t correctly represent the servers as a whole. Most those types of posts are meant to troll and start drama. I have played on blackgate since basically start and even now the queues are not bad. During the week maybe you’ll get a 15 minute queue on 2 BL’s and maybe EBG during the peak of NA prime. I highly doubt JQ has more numbers for higher queues than BG.
As for Casuals and “bandwagoners” all servers that hit tier 1 and did ok to good gets them. Its very true there are a lot of fair weathers that come out to experience WvW more casually, who can blame them, they just want to have fun like everyone else. Everyone has there own agenda and if that is moving servers to increase there enjoyment then power to them. This might be a good time for JQ to recruit and train from within there server and turn there PvE population more PvX. SoR did a great job with that and it really works for them.
It’s threads like these that portray tier 1 in a bad light. I don’t think every map had ques which were so long and this is an extreme case since JQ did this well in a matchup . But it could also be possible that all the PVE’rs are out for map completion.
I have a quote from someone on SoR saying that they don’t have a queue on all 4 BLs during all primetimes on a Tuesday night, and that’s why the recruited more guilds.
T1 is in a bad light because it’s “T1”. In a game where winning gives you no prize, a lot of people sure like winning.
No server can Queue all 4 maps on every prime time…I don’t know about SoR but Blackgate doesn’t even queue all 4 maps during NA prime (Normally). And its no secret SoR is trying to recruit SEA/OC guilds to combat BG, just like BG would like some EU to fight SoR.
It’s funny how some many people talk bad about T1 yet we still continually get guilds and people coming here…must not be that bad…
Until mods come here and remove posts anything you say is pointless. You are not going to change any ones mind. Make any argument you want but with out a Mod enforcing the bold quote in your first post we can safely assume that it is not a issue.
And it just want to make sure you know You’re not going to change peoples mind give up your pointless argument.
So, after sadly reading through what will surely be the least interesting two pages of our thread ever, the only question I have left is…
Do you guys from BT not realize how bad you are making yourselves and your guild look, or do you just not care?
(from someone who wasn’t there and really doesn’t care outside of your forum kittening)
Sigh… why does it only matter when your enemy does it? [FEAR] is known for crashing some GvGs. Are they making themselves look bad in your eyes? Or do they not count?
I have yet to see FEAR on here trumpeting about how amazing they are with their ability to crash GvGs… but yeah, anyone that does it is pretty lame in my eyes, regardless of the server they are on.
(this is coming from the guy that complains in TS when his group is fighting people at their spawn… so maybe I just like sportsmanship/not trying to ruin other peoples fun)
take it to spvp area and it becomes a non-issue
you don’t get to make up the rules for the game , end of story.. stop wasting space in WvW zones.
How do you have a 15v15 (or more) in sPvP? You do understand that most GvGs are done in maps that don’t have queues right? Also why are you going to the windmill if your WvW’ing? There is no reason to…it gives no PTT and it leads to nothing that helps WvW. Your arguments are moot.
If you are not posting a recruitment for your server please do not use this sub forum. The sub is used for recruitment not the terms of which this sub is used.
Heres a few bullkitten rumors that I have heard. People tell me if you use the portals in LA (rather than queuing in the menu) it will go faster. I never do it so I don’t know but I doubt it matters. Queuing in the Heart of the mists will get you in faster. This I do do because I’ll mess around in there while I wait and it does seem to be faster but I really have no way to judge the queue time either way so it its probably bullkitten. Lastly if you just requeue over and over again, now if its really a random lottery pick to get your queue to pop then it might be faster if you get lucky I guess but that seems like to much work imo.
Either way i don’t remember a post from a Dev confirming the way the queue really works so maybe Devon can jump in here real quick and knock that out? eh?
I would think if Anet didn’t want WvW guilds posting recruitment in this sub forum the mods would delete or move the thread. Since they have not done so, it brings me to believe they are ok with WvW guilds using a WvW related forum to find like minded WvW players.
I find it interesting that you think your the authority on what posts can be made here. These forums have very active mods and you should relax and let them do there job.
While the BG NA force is focusing on that PPT, they are getting wrecked in the open field.
I won’t go as far as saying wrecked, you act as if SoR never wipes in open field and your so superior. I have seen SoR guilds of all sorts run from fights, I have seen SoR guilds hide in there towers. You are no different then any other groups out there. If your out numbered you run, it happens every night.
It seems ArenaNet learned nothing from the ‘unobtainable WvW achievements’ issue.
Why are you even concerned with ranks that high? Currently there are only ~1636 possible points that could be spent…9,945 is quite the ways off…plus the point of not being able to reset them shows they want you to pick trait lines and build your individual character’s roll. Not just have everything…
Edit: I was wrong, the wiki says its only 1150 points to unlock all upgrades…
I am just thinking that everyone in higher tiers keeps complaining about the lag but lower tiers seems to not have as prevalent of a lag issue. A guild which is suffering from this and doesn’t care about tiers just enjoyment of wvw might look to move and spread the wvw population more if there weren’t such difficulties in dropping tiers. Maybe incentives could entice the stacked servers to spread out more.
That would only work with NA guilds. OC SEA and EU guilds are limited on what servers they go to if they want people to fight. Main reason for these time zones to come to Tier 1 servers is because they will have better coverage this more people to fight.
Honestly GS thieves are fine. Yeah they hit hard but if you can stop the burst you should win every time. I would gladly fight a GS thief over a full PVT thief. Very tanky thieves are close to impossible to kill, they probably won’t kill you but they just don’t die. At least you can burst a GS thief down.
Yes, kitten these Greatsword thieves!
But I do agree with OP. Thief’s inbuild survivability is too high looking on how much damage he can deal, how easy it is to have outnumbered action, how mobile he is and how easy it is to stay alive.
I never really tested it but I fairly sure its bugged. I have seen it give the AoE boon name when placing the mark but I don’t think it ever gave the boon. I just assumed it was a bug.
How do you go about obtaining 100% uptime on regen?
Mark of Blood. Use on cooldown.
That based on the assumption that your teammates are on melee.
Meh, I have always wanted to have a healing-ish support build for WvW. But any one I’v seen just seem so sub par usefulness compared to what other build can be doing for the team.
