Guild Wars 2

Meanwhile lets have another CDI just for the heck of it….

Serious questions for ANet:

How is your game studio going to compensate the WvW players for your lack of efforts?

How come a 2 weeks PvE living story reward chest is delivered instantly, but a 7-9 weeks WvW reward gets bugged and might never be delivered?

What did WvW players ever do to deserve such low standards in your game company?

Dear devs, if you gonna re-use contents by just changing the achievements then at least check if you are counting the achievements correctly. It seems like rewarding the players in GW2 is such a complex issue that even the devs can’t figure it out.

But on the positive side, I think you guys are making the right decision to cause frustration for 100% of players instead of 50% of us. GG

Are the support tickets addressed by the NCSOFT general support team since ANet is busy handling China release customer supports or are you guys actually addressing the tickets by yourselves? Or a better question: Will submitting a ticket be another total waste of time and after 4 weeks of waiting some random support person pointing us back to the forums?

“XX (Guild Wars 2 Support)
May 21 03:23

Hello DEAR CUSTOMER,

Thanks a lot for taking the time to share your ideas about Guild Wars 2. We have found that the best way for the development team to gather and review player feedback and suggestions is through our official forums. We ask players to post their ideas in our Official Forums: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum

Please post your suggestion in the forum most relevant to the subject at hand. For instance, if you are writing about PvP, post in one of the three PvP sub-Forums. If you are making a suggestion about the Trading Post or Gem Store, post in the Black Lion Trading Company sub-forum. And if you are writing about the Living World, feel free to post in one of those sub-forums.

Members of the Development Team read the Suggestions Forum daily, and while they usually cannot respond to individual suggestions, the fact that team members can review those suggestions in a public forum helps them gauge the level of interest in a particular idea, and also allows other players to discuss and offer feedback of their own.

The team looks forward to reviewing your input.

Regards,

XX
Guild Wars 2 Support Team
http://support.guildwars2.com/"

I lost counts on how many times my tickets get this reply.

Michael Henninger.7451:

I’ve spoken to the WvW team and they are still investigating. I don’t have any concrete information to pass on but one of the teams (WvW or Support) will let you know when we have something to post.

For those submitting tickets hang tight. We don’t have any news yet but will certainly update you as soon as we can.

So we now have to submit a ticket to get a 7 weeks reward? Submitting a ticket takes 10-15 minutes of my time? and my time costs money in my books…What will you do in return to pay for my lost time? Usually customers get a refund when they are sold the false products with misleading advertisement…

….but after all, this is a WvW issue and we all know where that falls in ANet’s priority list. My guess is that if you haven’t got the chest by now then don’t count on it. Move on and let this be another failed attempt at WvW. Some day that bone is gonna taste really dry if it already hasn’t….WvW players deserve better than this….

Hi Mark, with all due respect, there was already plenty of good suggestions posted in the WvW section of the forum.

….All you need to do is check the trash can of the forum and read those suggestions removed by the mods.

Mine says WvW tournament still active…No chest.

Anyways no surprise here…Even a simple WvW rewards chest gets bugged…..I sometimes wonder how hard is it to do at least one thing right in WvW?

Mark Katzbach.9084:

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The best thing that you as players can do is to give informed, constructive feedback. Let us know what you think worked, what you think didn’t work and what changes you believe would make a more enjoyable tournament for everybody. Whether you believe it or not, we do care about your feedback and our goal is to make the next tournament more fun and engaging.

Please continue to discuss and give feedback in the relevant threads until the CDI thread goes live. We will be reading your feedback, both in the CDI and elsewhere. We can’t always respond and we can’t give definitive plans for the future immediately, but we are paying attention and we are taking your feedback into account.

We as players, have given more useful feedback regarding WvW than any game studio would ever deserve.

After 3 months of no response from the devs regarding any of our feedbacks, are you really asking us to repeat those again?

I wonder how many people actually watched the FAQ today counting out the TP flippers and if anyone would still bother writing pages of suggestions…

MarkusParkus.8467:

Meglobob.8620:

Just watched the live stream, the person asking you about salvaging mistforged/hero weapons was not trolling you.

That was me! Sorry, was kinda trolling.. The new skins aren’t that appealing and I got 3 greens from the Season chest, was hoping for a decent reward!

Decent rewards? In WvW? Dude what you been smoking? PM me the name if the dealer.

Here is a question for you on the end-of-tournament rewards:

Jessica Boettiger.2563:

To clarify, we had planned for the cost of Gift of Heroes to be a combination of tickets and badges, but the item will now only cost tickets. Tournament tickets will not expire.

Why remove the badges? Isn’t badges of honor the main currency for WvW players? So why can’t we use it towards WvW rewards?

Karizee.8076:

Zylonite.5913:

Lheimroo.2947:

Ionut.2307:

I agree. This is why I would prefer a sub. Paying those 15 bucks a month and being sure that the devs are working to make the game better and fun, instead of creating the next bunny ears in the cash shop. If the game is poor, I simply stop paying.

There used to be some great MMO’s with subs. Not one of those games was working against you. Because that’s how I feel about GW2. I’m playing against the game and not the content.

I wish I could agree with you, but subs games are duplicitous too.

Usually a sub game or sub player offers a couple different justifications for the sub price – premium content or increased quantity of content, and inclusivity; ie that rewards are all included ‘in game’ for the sub price.

Neither of those is true nowadays.

Take WoW – a nine month hiatus on ‘content’ before the release of it’s Cataclysm expansion, and currently what is it – 8 months and on-going? before the release of it’s next. Subscription prices are ongoing during all of that time; you also don’t receive any kind of discount for the expansion prices for paying a sub for all those content-less months.

There’s no sub game that releases more content objectively than many of the f2p/b2p games out there. As for premium quality, that’s subjective but .. let’s just say that I’d lean towards content being of a relatively evenish quality between sub and f2p/b2p games.

As for inclusivity of content for the sub price – don’t make me laugh; sub games sell services and special items in their cash shops too. No such thing.

I’m not even going to get into the topic of how subscriptions can force a game to be designed with deliberate and meaningless timesinks.

So.. take it all together, and what do you get for your sub fee? Bupkiss aside of access, which most games – not even MMOs only! – include for free to their multiplayer.

The difference between a sub MMO and cash-shop MMO is not about which one has more contents. In a sub MMO, the focus is the design of attractive contents that satisfies the player’s demands (hardcore or casual) to keep those subscribers happy. In a cash-shop MMO is goal is to design contents around the cash-shop items and sell more gems. Both models work can work great IMO, but don’t have the same expectations from a cash-shop MMO compared to a sub.

The difference between a sub MMO and a B2P MMO is that the sub MMO only lets you roll for loot once a week. That’s how they make their moneyz.

…And B2P MMO such as GW2 doesn’t have any loot or time restrictions?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/crafting/Remove-time-gate-in-Ascended-crafting/first#post3353316

Lheimroo.2947:

Ionut.2307:

I agree. This is why I would prefer a sub. Paying those 15 bucks a month and being sure that the devs are working to make the game better and fun, instead of creating the next bunny ears in the cash shop. If the game is poor, I simply stop paying.

There used to be some great MMO’s with subs. Not one of those games was working against you. Because that’s how I feel about GW2. I’m playing against the game and not the content.

I wish I could agree with you, but subs games are duplicitous too.

Usually a sub game or sub player offers a couple different justifications for the sub price – premium content or increased quantity of content, and inclusivity; ie that rewards are all included ‘in game’ for the sub price.

Neither of those is true nowadays.

Take WoW – a nine month hiatus on ‘content’ before the release of it’s Cataclysm expansion, and currently what is it – 8 months and on-going? before the release of it’s next. Subscription prices are ongoing during all of that time; you also don’t receive any kind of discount for the expansion prices for paying a sub for all those content-less months.

There’s no sub game that releases more content objectively than many of the f2p/b2p games out there. As for premium quality, that’s subjective but .. let’s just say that I’d lean towards content being of a relatively evenish quality between sub and f2p/b2p games.

As for inclusivity of content for the sub price – don’t make me laugh; sub games sell services and special items in their cash shops too. No such thing.

I’m not even going to get into the topic of how subscriptions can force a game to be designed with deliberate and meaningless timesinks.

So.. take it all together, and what do you get for your sub fee? Bupkiss aside of access, which most games – not even MMOs only! – include for free to their multiplayer.

The difference between a sub MMO and cash-shop MMO is not about which one has more contents. In a sub MMO, the focus is the design of attractive contents that satisfies the player’s demands (hardcore or casual) to keep those subscribers happy. In a cash-shop MMO is goal is to design contents around the cash-shop items and sell more gems. Both models work can work great IMO, but don’t have the same expectations from a cash-shop MMO compared to a sub.

Silent Shino.7239:

If this was implemented, then WvW would be so much better to play

Yes because less up levels….

They should just allow gold → gems → “another currency” such as VIP membership time.

There needs to be a new and real gold sink rather than just nerfing every possible way to obtain gold.

Terrahero.9358:

With population now dipping so low in WvW, that the active drive is in the hands of a small group of people, never before smaller. Matchfixing becomes very easy.
A single guildleader of a large wvw guild can swing the outcome of a match, by making a deal with a similar person on one of the other servers. And its never been easier or more effective.
And i suspect it will only get much worst from here on out.

Anything that helps lowering the population in WvW would eventually benefit ANet financially.

WvW servers cost more money than WvW gem store items. Not counting the devs costs because there is none.

In one year time the WvW borderlands will merge into one EBG zerg map and EoTM will become a ghost town once its nerfed to the ground.

The main issue with the living story and all its contents is the uncertainty in the game’s development.

In the early chapters of the living story, most of the contents were designed for zergs and large groups and many players adopted to this gameplay style. But then some the community slashed out about the bi-weekly mindless boring zerg fest content, and now ANet wants to change that by forcing more organized game play. Their silly solution: Can’t beat our organized well planned contents? too bad, no loot or reward for you. A player might ask why? and Anet simply adds another content that is now one tier higher and requires even more organization in a random map. All of this for what? Because some dev in Anet’s Studio says so.

GW2 is now known to be a zerg game and ANet is simply trying to delete that mentality. The game’s designed is flawed for organized raids because of so many reasons and one is you can’t even group up for large raids. All you can hope for is to get RNG’ed in a decent megaserver map.

Unfortunately by now they proved that it their way or the highway.

Anet’s business model is not different than any other company that seeks revenue such as a cellphone or cable company. A new customer brings a lot more profit than existing customers.

Right now Anet’s focus is purely on new customers and other regions. The game’s support is handed off to NCSoft general support and 100% of ANet dev team is focused on features to attract new players and support China.

A new customer spends $$ on buying the game plus initial $$ in the gem store for some stuff for a while until the realize this new pay to be disappointed model.

This is the reality. Get used to it.

Until someone actually post a video deleting all their characters and legendaries, I don’t believe these threads.

Short answer: yes

Long answer: yes

To answer the OP:

Because WvW season was only a distraction for EU and NA until they release the game in China.

Evon Skyfyre.9673:

Artemis.6283:

they totally destroyed it… don’t see a reason to play it tbh….

Agreed, and we have to pay to trigger the boss? Walked in, saw how it is, and left.

Welcome to the new era of gold sink where you have to pay in-game gold for the contents to spawn.

The next living story will hopefully require some gems to enter the instance. For example 200 gems to collect 10 rocks or 400 gems to get a buff to kill the boss.

LordEnki.9283:

I’m sure this will probably be a humorously hated idea, but I wish they would remove the ability to trade gold for gems. There’s no tin foil hat to say that for whatever reason they claim for nerfing it also protects their bottom line. They would be far less strict about loot if it didn’t threaten their profits.

And make all exotics including precursor account bound on acquire. Has anyone seen the price of dusk recently? How is anyone going to afford $1500 golds for a precursor with all these gold nerfing?

This thread is really a waste of time. If you think writing about your frustration makes a difference for ANet and the future patches then you must be new to the forums. Everything here has been mentioned in lots of other threads and 200 page CDIs and what happened now?

Do you really think ANet’s devs are unaware of how this game lacks rewards? Trust me, they know, but they continue to nerf what is already bad.

It is a shame really because the game had potential but bad mistakes after mistakes will drive the community away.

The question is how much more the NA and EU going to get nerfed because of the Chinese release.

CC Danicia.1394:

My apologies for not being clear; I was getting more information regarding an earlier post in this thread and some other questions regarding the rewards.

No surprise here. ANet usually ignores 90% of the posts…

ANet should just remove gold as a reward. The only way to get gold is through buying gems with $$$ and convert to gold. Everyone’s problem solved.

That is good. Let the new players get the facts early on so they don’t waste two years playing this# like some of us.

Chrispy.5641:

Vol.7601:

Remember to use dodge food for Liadri

-Brought to you by the Dodge Food Conglomerate

Game Update Notes, May 22nd, 2014

• Fixed an ‘exploit’ where players could use food to boost their odds of winning against Liadri the Concealing Dark.
• All food buffs, including the Metabolic Primer, are removed upon entering a fight in the Queen’s Gauntlet.
• If you attempt to use food while in the fight, All Dodge food becomes Doge food when consumed, and instead of increased endurance regeneration, a bunch of badly spelled phrases appear on the screen whenever you dodge.

Is this for real? Or fake troll patch notes?

This is why free to play or buy to play MMOs are all the same (Except The Secret World). At the end of the day the focus of the game will be the cash shop and GW2 has proven to be no exception.

Personally I can’t even bother to login to at least get the daily. Kind of disappointing that this game is going downhill so fast and I bet the living story season 2 will be another big disappointment. If the devs haven’t leaned anything by now then they are not going to change the new gem store content model of the game.

But on the good side, I just pre-ordered a new MMO coming out soon with a one year subscription up front. Hopefully that will help to erase my disappointment in this game. The latest patch is nothing more than a shameful display of the game which is hard to recognize compare to when it was released….

Blanche Neige.7241:

Hurry up doing your achievement in there. In a couple of days the pavilion will be deserted.

It is already dead. Went in this morning and there was 10 people max….

Xenesis.6389:

Zylonite.5913:

I bet some devs read this thread and have a good laugh.

I had a good laugh actually when one of the anet reps joined in the run we had in the pavilion, they lasted for about two bosses and then left, all the while they heard the complaining from players right next to them.

Yeah. If I was a ANet dev, I would probably hide my tag for a while…

I bet some devs read this thread and have a good laugh.

I guess big brother NCSoft wants more people to move to Wildstar and told ANet to make the game really unpleasant for the players until Wildstar gets released.

Must be a bug but need Dev confirmation….

Nobody said GW2 is not one of the better MMOs out there…The issue is that most players are getting tired of the the bi-weekly new gem store hats and gloves….Also the devs have abandoned the players on the forums/CDI/etc….but it is a free to play after all and not sure what else everyone really expect in terms of contents…In other words all the contents that the initial $60 game purchase paid for are still in the game…Nobody promised the players more contents than that….But the bi-weekly gem store hats are starting to get really dull….EDIT: We at least expect the bugs to be fixed and but noooo, that hat needs more brushing to look shinier in the store….

GW2 is poorly optimized developed on an old game engine designed for single threaded CPUs from 1996 IBM x386 unfortunately.

So any laptop with powerful single CPUs would get the job done. Personally I would go for Intel i3 or if you have more money go for Intel i5/i7….

I want to be able to buy XP scrolls with karma.

~1800 hours, ~400 days, ~150% MF and no drop. Even if I get a drop at this point, I will sell it and covert to gems to upgrade bags and other stuff instead of investing more real cash…

The gem store has a lot of potential but unfortunately it is executed in the worst ways possible.

The store focuses too much on skins and useless stuff and also gates players to obtain those by actually playing the game. There is a big disconnect between the actual game and the gem store. The living story tried to fix the gap but instead it felt like the game contents are actually getting designed around the gems tore item (ships pass, transmutation, etc) instead of the other way around.

Someday far in the future, someone from ANet will realize how much missed potential there was in this game and how many mistakes were made.

The game offers different end games:

• Complaining on the forums
• Forum suspensions
• AFK’ing in LA or that new area
• Flipping TP
• Repeat the same PvE stuff
• Living story Gem store content
• Grind PvP for no reason
• Farm achievements
• Dream of a precursor drop
• Farm gold until the next nerf
• Hope for CDI results

There are so many different things to do as end game that honestly it is not that bad…

Vespirisa.1497:

Zylonite.5913:

….but we got account bound WxP….now that is some amazing WvW content…

That was March 26th, 2012. I only remembered it since it was the only positive change since I started playing.

Be glad we at least got that before season 2….personally I wasn’t counting on it until 2045.

….but we got account bound WxP….now that is some amazing WvW content…

Devata.6589:

I did not ask for both. Just expansions is fine.

I have worked in enough software companies to know that ANet doesn’t have the budget to sit back and develop an expansion while having little to zero cash flow for that period of time.

So all this talk of expansion is really a waste of time…..

Devata.6589:

Zylonite.5913:

Devata.6589:

Zylonite.5913:

This game will never get an expansion because that is not the model the game was originally designed in regards of the cash flow to survive. Anybody would be a fool to think it will…But people will still ask for it everyday on the forums because they got nothing else to say…

At this moment it’s indeed not how there model works but it it’s not something that is in the core of the game. It can easely be switched.

At this moment it’s indeed not how there model works but it it’s not something that is in the core of the game. It can easily be switched.

Maybe I am a fool for asking but it’s simply the best for the game.

Because no matter how much talent ANet devs have, it is impossible for them to create living story bi-weekly contents and also work on an expansion on the side. Look at the the release in China and how they don’t even have enough people to reply to a support ticket.

That said, a bi-weekly $10 gem store skin would bring them a lot more cash than spending six months on an expansion to end up selling it for $20-$30. Yes, not everyone spends money on the gem store for the living story items but it has kept the game alive until now. Also you should know that not everyone will pay for an expansion if they ever develop one (which they won’t)….

Some mathematical facts:

Let’s say ANet has 300 devs and approximately $100k salary per each dev. That is $30 million a year just on salary and not even including NCSOFT’s share.

A 6 months development cost on an expansion costs ~$15 million to cover the devs rent and gas money. and lets say they sell the expansion for $30. That means they have to sell ($15 million/$30) = 500,000 copies to cover the costs. Do you really think 500,000 players will actually buy the expansion? I doubt even 500,000 players actually play this game every day….

All that said it is still the best MMO in the market today and their business strategy is working great for them as long as gem store doesn’t go pay to win. But just don’t expect an expansion.

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I did not ask for both. Just expansions is fine.
The bi-weekly updates are there also to promote the cash-shop. That need is gone with a real B2P model.

The cash-shop does it’s work for them in the short run but does not do the game any good. You say it keeps the game alive but not in good heath. And your calculations are a little strange to say the least.

Maybe the short run is all they are after….. Or maybe there are other big projects for them on the horizon (outside GW2).

Devata.6589:

Zylonite.5913:

This game will never get an expansion because that is not the model the game was originally designed in regards of the cash flow to survive. Anybody would be a fool to think it will…But people will still ask for it everyday on the forums because they got nothing else to say…

At this moment it’s indeed not how there model works but it it’s not something that is in the core of the game. It can easely be switched.

At this moment it’s indeed not how there model works but it it’s not something that is in the core of the game. It can easily be switched.

Maybe I am a fool for asking but it’s simply the best for the game.

Because no matter how much talent ANet devs have, it is impossible for them to create living story bi-weekly contents and also work on an expansion on the side. Look at the the release in China and how they don’t even have enough people to reply to a support ticket.

That said, a bi-weekly $10 gem store skin would bring them a lot more cash than spending six months on an expansion to end up selling it for $20-$30. Yes, not everyone spends money on the gem store for the living story items but it has kept the game alive until now. Also you should know that not everyone will pay for an expansion if they ever develop one (which they won’t)….

Some mathematical facts:

Let’s say ANet has 300 devs and approximately $100k salary per each dev. That is $30 million a year just on salary and not even including NCSOFT’s share.

A 6 months development cost on an expansion costs ~$15 million to cover the devs rent and gas money. and lets say they sell the expansion for $30. That means they have to sell ($15 million/$30) = 500,000 copies to cover the costs. Do you really think 500,000 players will actually buy the expansion? I doubt even 500,000 players actually play this game every day….

All that said it is still the best MMO in the market today and their business strategy is working great for them as long as gem store doesn’t go pay to win. But just don’t expect an expansion.

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This game will never get an expansion because that is not the model the game was originally designed in regards of the cash flow to survive. Anybody would be a fool to think it will…But people will still ask for it everyday on the forums because they got nothing else to say…

This is a bad idea. WvW doesn’t need more PvE achievement farmers. WvW is rewarding in many other ways and loot and achievement points are not one of those….

Lol…a yak parade only when TC 2v1’ed everything?

what a shameful display…

PSA: Trolls will be trolls and that is that….

outlaws.6910:

after reading this thread i just don’t understand why some of you need Anet devs to respond? when in multiple thread/twitch episodes they have said that they do read the threads…. and when they finally do post something they get attacked/put down???

Patience is a great skills just saying…

Maybe because we have these 100 page CDI threads from last month which were ignored and now we need a new CDI thread. Why not right?