Guild Wars 2

Cyvien.8049:

Mesmer – Shield
Guard – Longbow
Necro – Greatsword
Elementalist – Warhorn

So far, no repetition of elite spec weapon, by induction, we are now 50% safer to say thief is not getting staff.

Ranger-Staff
Engi- Warhammer

we know these from trailers

so thats 6/8

Substance E.4852:

arenta.2953:

…

and now rumor is we turn into out pet for an elite or f skill

People need to stop with the “shapeshifter” biz.

Why would they give us a staff allowing us to finally actually wield “Nature Magic” only to then make the entire subclass about turning into a bear or cat?

It would also completely change up the way the pet mechanic works entirely which has always been something they have turned their noses up at every time we bring it up.

GW2 Druid isn’t going to be WoW/Diablo2 Druid 2.0

i said it was rumor

and truth be told, turning into a giant wolf with stability, speed, and toughness is appealing. it beats the current spirit elite we got

SirDrygan.1823:

Ayrilana.1396:

SirDrygan.1823:

Just wait it out. I am sure ANET will extend the pre-order when their sales statistic is not satisfactory to them.

Or their pre-purchase sales are already right on target or exceeding expectations so they would have no need to do that. They could also be factoring in players who will pre-purchase between now and release or immediately upon the expansion’s release.

I guess what I’m saying is that if you expect that sales are not satisfactory, and that they will extend the bonus offer, you have pretty good chance that you’ll be disappointed.

Doesn’t matter, not buying HoT anyways.

your loss.
i’m looking forward to HoT
and when it comes out. i’ll sit there as my Reaper laughing on top of the highest part of lions arch at all those with a similar mindset to you.

and my Reaper is an asura. so it will be cute >=D

eduardo.1436:

arenta.2953:

eduardo.1436:

sorry guys im Asura sooo lemme just get my flamethrower here just in case my sylvari guildmates try anything funny while we explore the jungle

what are you. a human?!
put that flamethrower on a golem ASAP!

carrying weapons…pah! who does that anymore.

pfffft everybody knows that you dont give golems weapons! THEY ARE weapons! just use them as metal shields while you use weapons

or….
lights golem on fire
BRING IT ON PLANTS. ITS TIME FOR ASURA BATTLEBOTS

Kalavier.1097:

I’m fairly sure the entire crew, destiny’s Edge, and others would restrain or kill you before you could succeed in the first place. :P

na.
tell logan the queen is below deck -problem solved
tell rytlok logan called him runtlock- problem solved
tell zojja your experimenting if a sylvari can survive a fall like a leaf- problem…….mostly solved(she might join you)

as for caithe…..point out something pretty like a sunset or dragon
and Eirr…………………………..can we drug her ale?

eduardo.1436:

sorry guys im Asura sooo lemme just get my flamethrower here just in case my sylvari guildmates try anything funny while we explore the jungle

what are you. a human?!
put that flamethrower on a golem ASAP!

carrying weapons…pah! who does that anymore.

we already got revealed

Druid, we get a staff using vines to cripple and immoblize.

and now rumor is we turn into out pet for an elite or f skill

in all likely hood, thief will be last cause of the kittenstorm coming when Anet says “theif gets staff, not rifle”
cause thats seriously gonna end badly =/
(i blame the game art showing a thief with rifle during beta…..)

Padapwn.5924:

@arenta.. twitch.tv/padapwn check past broadcasts.. or bring ur thiefs or any thief into a pvp arena.. i have no problem proving this point..

oh i thought u ment WvW xD
my bad

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

arenta.2953:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Yeah….she says that, but they’d never actually do it. I’m sure they’ll do additional conversations, and maybe even some mildly dark internal struggle, but they’d never actually let the player character turn (and remain) evil.

(Feel free to make me eat those words Anet, I dare you )

if they make us eat those words
i gonna be so happy xD

that would be such a sweet taste. all of a sudden sylvari characters can have the choice to play the story against the forces of Tyria

I’d be perfectly ok with eating my words. But it’s extremely unlikely that they would let a character go full out evil, as I said.

arenta.2953:

and maybe when mordremoth dies, you return to normal

That’d be a cheap way out. Would rank right up there with WoW’s DK’s “change of heart” for “easy button.”

If they go the route of letting player characters become evil, they should have some additional story / quests / events to cleanse those characters to return them to our side. Including letting us kick their tails, and tada…open world pvp (with limited scope).

cheap way out? maybe

but it would mean for once you lose your personal story. you fight on and in the end lose.
it would be something not normally done. adding a sense of realism into the game by reinforcing the fact you can’t always win.

of coarse, your character would accomplish alot, maybe in the end choosing to betray mordremoth on purpose, or joining him to protect the other sylvari trees.

it could be that while you do lose the war, its your actions that save the sylvari race.
a victory in a loss

Padapwn.5924:

A good lb/gs ranger will beat a thief 90% of the time no matter the distance.. unless they are running condis….

90% of time any distance?
got some videos to back that up…cause thats a pretty big claim

GreyerSkies.6287:

Donari.5237:

arenta.2953:

how to fix zhaitan fight
kicks Traeharne off the ship
problem solved >=D
he died like he lived, a failed character.

Hard to do since he’s not on the ship. We do the Zhaitan fight without him.

That’s no excuse; my character would gladly drag him onto the ship in that battle, for the sole purpose of kicking him off it.

doubt my character would. her pet wolf already has first dibs <.<
if she tried to do it the wolf would headbutt her off the ship…..problems of being an asura with a wolf bigger than you…

Renim.6921:

He’s a terrible character.

There is not a single reason for me to care about him at all. Most of the other order mentors have a personality and a reason why I like them. They have back stories to themselves other than “I research Orr”. They have something to live for.

Seriously, the only thing we really know about Trahearne is that he’s firstborn, somehow knows all of these order people, and that his mission is to restore Orr.

The only way they could have redeemed him is if he died during the Zhaitan fight. But no, he gets plot immunity because reasons.

No ones jealous of him, we just want a better character.

how to fix zhaitan fight
kicks Traeharne off the ship
problem solved >=D
he died like he lived, a failed character.

theif vs ranger.
if the theif stays at range, Ranger will win 90% of the time
if the theif gets up close, Ranger will win 30% of the time

thats my personal experience and its because, while theif is mass dps, in melee a ranger is designed to counter a theif, but has to time their skills.

an experienced ranger can still lose to an inexperienced theif,
but an experienced theif will never lose to an inexperienced ranger.

personally, ranger atm is a delicious challenge when i fight a thief, will the theif follow the predicted attack pattern, falling into my block/counter, my traps, and have its stealth canceled by my skills
or will it defy my predictions and break my attack chain

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Yeah….she says that, but they’d never actually do it. I’m sure they’ll do additional conversations, and maybe even some mildly dark internal struggle, but they’d never actually let the player character turn (and remain) evil.

(Feel free to make me eat those words Anet, I dare you )

if they make us eat those words
i gonna be so happy xD

that would be such a sweet taste. all of a sudden sylvari characters can have the choice to play the story against the forces of Tyria

and maybe when mordremoth dies, you return to normal

xXMapcoXx.9614:

Now I’ve been wondering about what ANET plan to do with Traeharne. What I think would be a cool twist is that he joins Mordremoth and leads an army of Slyavir against you in HOT. It leads to a massive fight were at the end of it you stomp Traeharne. What do you guys think?

my pet wolf would love a chance to eat that salad <.<
and my sylvari hound agrees.

glory stealer must die

TheLastNobody.8319:

If trahearne was introduced earlier, like lets say during the order arc, and we developed a relationship with him, I think we would’ve liked him a lot better. It also would’ve been good to have him and the player character actually go and retrieve his sword together, rather than just give it to the buglier. I wouldn’t have minded playing second fiddle to someone who actually had experience or proved they deserved all the hype surrounding them, heck that’s what you were doing in the order! And nobody seems to be complaining about that!

Instead, he’s introduced in one instance, and in the very next becomes commander of the largest military organization in Tyria! Just because he has a magic sword, and is the only person there not associated with one of the orders, heck we could’ve gone with some random skirt if that was the requirements for it. And even with his extensive knowledge of Orr, and being and expert on risen, he seems to get surprised and foiled at every dang turn!

yep

its like that later story where you are “Afraid of causign the death of someone under your command”

and then literally the next story arc is a norn who admires you, and dies to nagas….
i hated that arc cause
1. that came out of nowhere…and is such a major coicidence that it oh so happened to match my choice
2. i met the norn in 1 mission…..lost her in the 2nd. and they expect me to care….i didn’t even know the norn long.(what makes her stand out from the 50 smucks who died last mission..oh she admired me. i guess that makes her deserve to get a name…..)
hell i’ve spent more time getting to know the sylvari wardens in lion’s arch who greet me as i go through to the grove.

Traeharne is like that norn. he’s thrown in and they expect me to immediatly care about him.
unlike the norn, who got the boot satisfying fast. Traeharne stays.

i would have MUCH rather prefered Destiny’s edge to unify and lead the pact
or the Vigil leader(whats her name…the charr whose daughter is in charge of ash legion)

both of them are better choices. specially the vigil leader as she’s got a personal grudge against the dragons. she’s experienced and built the entire vigil despite alot of racial hate.

but Traeharne…he belongs in a library. as an advisor to the vigil or priory. not kicking the vigil leader out of her chair and sitting in it like he all of a sudden knows all there is to commanding a giant army.

Vicao.5068:

Just to know…
Why you guys play PVE?

There is no point for me…
You play to farm legendaries, but you can go there and buy a legendary with real money and no effort…
It’s only “4fun”, but do the same things all the time isn’t that fun…

WvW, its a competitive in theory, so, win it’s the point!
PVP, same thing!

because in competitive theres only 1 winner. the rest are losers

one group gets the “fun” of winning
the rest gets the frustration of losing.

and in PvP because no one wants to lose, they get really toxic when you make a mistake (it goes from a misclick or a innocent mistake, into players screamign at you that your a kitten noob, team lost cause of you. go unistall. get a brain")
or if you win, the enemy team curses you (“hacker, noob, kitten spammer”)

and i really dislike that

in PvE, the AI bots don’t care if they lose. they don’t insult you.

its more relaxed, mistakes are more easily forgiven. and as such its a more fun evironment where people work together to have fun.
it might lack the challenge of PvP, but sometimes a casual relaxing fun PvE is what you need.

competitive PvP is frustrating and people take it to seriously

PvE is more social as well as people can sit down and bring up topics of interest outside the match that people can laugh or enjoy.

Vicao.5068:

Just to know…
Why you guys play PVE?

There is no point for me…
You play to farm legendaries, but you can go there and buy a legendary with real money and no effort…
It’s only “4fun”, but do the same things all the time isn’t that fun…

WvW, its a competitive in theory, so, win it’s the point!
PVP, same thing!

why do you breathe every day
why do you go through the same routine. going to school or work, coming home for dinner going to sleep.

doing the same things over and over?
in tennis you hit the ball over the net over and over
in baseball you hit the ball and run the bases over and over.
in PvP you cap the same circles, kill the same enemies with the same key pattern. or cap the same towers.

everything in life is repetition. its the satisfaction you get from doing or finishing it that makes it worth it

Rebound.3409:

Personally i don’t like him because (summed up):
- Some of the most terrible voice acting i’ve heard in any game. Even picachiew has more depth and feeling then him.
- He quite literally takes credit for everything you do.

^this
plus his development from a scholar to a general seems so forced and stretched.

the bad voice acting(he sounds so freakin bored! compare the emotion in his voice to zojja. major difference. he’s like the (girl from twilight) of GW2 in how much emotion he lacks)

he literally comes in middle of the story from no where and jsut goes “oh hey, i remember [insert priory/order/vigil person]. hows it going” and you have no idea the story there. he could be a drunk for all i know

the bad voice acting

he somehow gets all the orders of tyria to follow him….why? cause he had a dream? what about all the other wild hunt sylvari with dreams, none of them get armies just cause.
did he do something to gain the respect and obedience of all the orders? no. YOU DID.

the bad voice acting

and the fact in story missions he just seems so static. caithe flips around and attacks fast. traeharne just slaps the sword or whatever weapon(back on claw island) he had from time to time….for NO DMG.
he could knock them back. but he doesnt
he could put conditions like cripple, a stun, blind, or poison. but he doesnt
he could kitten REVIVE YOU WHEN U DOWNED. but he sits there saying some out of place quote when i’m freaking getting curb stomped by 3 undead.
he could summon undead to fight the undead thus providing you some meatbags to use as cover. but he doesn’t…..

he’s basically that little kid your babysitting that you have to drag around as he takes all the credit while spoutin the most obvious observations
“they coming from the water” no duh we on claw island. where ELSE would they come from
“beware the channels, they coming” no duh, we patrolling the channels of lion’s arch for a reason!
“theres to many” there 3 of them! and 3 of us!(me, my pet, and the lesser note of existance, traeharne).
“be carefu-” stab stab stab we in a fight! no duh be careful. how about warning me of incoming reinforcements, or of an incoming knockdown. stab stab stab

-Traeharne might have worked if GW2 is a book. but in game, coupled with the horrible NPC AI. i’ve grown to hate him so much.
at least other NPCs have interesting things to say and emotion. Traeharne just says the obvious in a bored voice.

it would also be nice if the spring spawned ON US
like all other traps

but no. if u moving. it spawns behind you. and does jack kitten.

Nachyochez.9758:

Substance E.4852:

arenta.2953:

Ryk.7289:

Justine.6351:

My uber 1500 range hard at work. Sadly this was from before specializations ;-( https://youtu.be/Vb9sUlnTFUg

Holy kitten nerf pl0x anet, gg

i don’t see it being OP….

the theif nearly killed the ranger there with alot of hp left. had it not run (and instead switched to a ranged weapon instead of just using 1 weapon) it would have won easily.
instead, the ranger made use of 2 weapons to fight while the thief only used 1.

so bad play on theif part, and ranger nearly dead.

I think the joke was that he killed the thief without just Rkitten him for 1,000,000 damage from spawn.

It was actually a really good fight.

The only sad thing is that he came back on a condi thief which is ’baby’s first mmo pvp’ when used against a ranger.

To be completely fair, Camp Flipping (which the thief was doing) was usually done in a power build setup. The most popular build I was aware of was sword and Knight’s. He might not have ‘switched to gank the ranger’ but rather put on his actual combat gear.

no matter what build the theif used, it nearly won. 1k more dmg was all he needed. and he had the hp required at the time to do it easily.

but in the end, he ran from the pet and let the ranger get time to channel down (what was it 6k hp?)

so even though the theif played badly. with a supposedly bad build. he still nearly won.

vs a ranger who was playing very well.

Ryk.7289:

Justine.6351:

My uber 1500 range hard at work. Sadly this was from before specializations ;-( https://youtu.be/Vb9sUlnTFUg

Holy kitten nerf pl0x anet, gg

i don’t see it being OP….

the theif nearly killed the ranger there with alot of hp left. had it not run (and instead switched to a ranged weapon instead of just using 1 weapon) it would have won easily.
instead, the ranger made use of 2 weapons to fight while the thief only used 1.

so bad play on theif part, and ranger nearly dead.

DHawk.2687:

arenta.2953:

Substance E.4852:

DHawk.2687:

sorry that i won’t let nerfs to MY class hinder me from playing my fav weapon set, and since you cannot discuss is a mature manner there is no sense in holding a conversation with you.
you really are closed minded if i ever saw one

lol it’s not “your” class, it’s everyone’s. Stop trying ruin things for others because you can’t play thief correctly.

If you are so adamant in your belief that RF is OP against good thieves. Go take your supposed Ranger into WvW/sPvP and create a nice montage of you just destroying other players.

I fully expect dozens of 180noscopes of you obliterating D/P thieves who had the foresight to sneak up on you and use terrain wisely (or unwisely as they picked a fight with a godmode RF ranger).

^ this
post a video if you want anyone to believe ya =)

@arenta, are you talking to me :/ ?

yes and no. anyone who thinks this skill is OP or broken.

but keep in mind right now, the reason it follows stealthed enemies while firing is its a channel skill

all channel skills in game (warrior’s rifle, mesmer’s greatsword, ele’s fire greatsword, to name a few) work like this as a counter to stealth spam theives
-even theif’s P/P full auto skill is a channel skill.

channel skill’s trace is the payoff they get for not just doing all that dmg in 1 hit like a theif. as the channel bring alot of risk of lost dmg due to the time it takes to finish

i know not all theifs spam stealth, but because of those that do (dissapearing every 3 secounds, removing conditions and healing while in stealth) channel skills NEED to trace stealthed enemies as otherwise its to easy to spam backstab, add to that how dagger 2 and steal (As well as all the other lunges like shadow step, and the sword’s shadow step) lunge to the enemy. and it becomes immpossible to run away from a theif.
so channeling to take not of where they are in stealth is the only balancer to potentially stop backstabs from being spammed (even frontally a backstab does more dmg than all of ranger’s LB’s 2 skill)

1500 range is fine, its not hard to close and all dmg it does takes alot of time to dish out giving ample opportunities to dodge, block, hide behind objects, or reflect the dmg back.

vulnerability is fine, as theres alot of skills that put more vulnerbility on that are alot more spammable(theif is guilty of this as well, as is necromancer and mesmer)

and the trace is fine. as its the only counter to keep an eye on which direction a steal spam thief is going to give you a chance to prepare a counter.

Substance E.4852:

DHawk.2687:

sorry that i won’t let nerfs to MY class hinder me from playing my fav weapon set, and since you cannot discuss is a mature manner there is no sense in holding a conversation with you.
you really are closed minded if i ever saw one

lol it’s not “your” class, it’s everyone’s. Stop trying ruin things for others because you can’t play thief correctly.

If you are so adamant in your belief that RF is OP against good thieves. Go take your supposed Ranger into WvW/sPvP and create a nice montage of you just destroying other players.

I fully expect dozens of 180noscopes of you obliterating D/P thieves who had the foresight to sneak up on you and use terrain wisely (or unwisely as they picked a fight with a godmode RF ranger).

^ this
post a video if you want anyone to believe ya =)

Axelwarrior.9084:

I’m starting to think the Ranger forums are full of paranoid people who think every other player in the game is a Thief who wants to nerf them.
Because whenever someone points out something about Rangers, the responses are pretty much only “YES BUT THIEF HAS BACKSTAB”, as if that’s a valid response to every argument one can make about Rangers.

@Justine & Puck: Congrats, you greatly contributed to this thread with your sarcasm. You both gain 2 sarcasm points!
On a serious note, because I’m not a troll, I obviously meant power Rangers only use LB. Are you happy now? Are you prepared to go back to your den now that you’re fed?

troll alert
troll alert

(i call you a troll cause you act like block, reflect, evade don’t exist. and you act like closing a 1.5k gap is hard. it really isn’t. specially with ranger’s now bugged skills and still dumb as crap pet AI)

Axelwarrior.9084:

Time to reply to more idiots.

Puck.9612:

Gee I wonder why so many rangers happen to be in this forum…..

Instead of qq’ing about something that has been discussed to death why don’t you just read through the other threads.

I didn’t ask Rangers in general to keep away. I’m a Ranger too. I check the first page, there were no threads, I made one. Problem?

Lazze.9870:

You whole argument is based upon you letting the ranger have an upperhand by approaching the fight like a sodding idiot.

Not all duels start with a surprise attack. I’m specifically talking about planned ones where both players are aware of each other beforehand.

Wuselknusel.4082:

@OP: It is probably not the best way to measure your understanding of the game, but your name in combination with your claim made me laugh. You are not the first one who complains about the range of the LB and you probably, and sadly, wont be the last one. Yet, here we are and the LB still has his 1500 range. The fact that especially the ranged weapons of the Ranger don’t see much love in any gametype should be evidence enough that the LB is not overpowered.

You’re basing things about me based on my username? How old are you? LB is so useless in PvP yet pretty much every power Ranger ever uses it, huh?

singinggecko.5736:

Ok thread started conplaints about 1500 range. I’d trade it in a heartbeat to be better in close range personally. 1500 range is only useful if the enemy stays at 1500 range lol sounds almost too simple. That advantage especially against a thief shouldn’t take but a second or two to close into where both can hit with their skills.
Then it moved over to rapid fire. Well it’s the only burst lb has. Ever see anyone even mention the damage from hunter’s shot, PBS, or barrage in terms of a pvp setting? The first two are utility and the third is the only aoe. If rapid fire took a hit, what’s left to try to kill anyone on a lb?
Lastly, (this is the part I refrained from saying for a bit so I could be somewhat constructive) you sound like you’re running glassy on your thief with those numbers. How does that give an accurate measure of how strong a skill is? Is it fair to balance damage against what we assume is a valk thief setup? Assuming you do, if you run glass then you have to be willing to die to things that feel cheesy because of the lack of defenses.

I never even mentioned using Thief. What are you even talking about?
The problem with the 1500 range is that everyone who plays glassy simply won’t have enough time to close in to the Ranger 2 times (2, because he will most likely knock you back, fear you, evade backwards, taunt you away and/or knock you down the first time you get close) before the Ranger has already taken a big chunk of their HP. If the range was 1200 (or at least closer to it), then everyone could at least fight back with ranged weapons while they were closing in on the Ranger.

press e to dodge
you evade the shots (and unlike theifs who burst dmg in single hits. ranger’s dmg takes time to build up.)

and seriously. with all the blocks, evades, reflects in the game. and the fact you can dodge once to avoid over HALF of ranger’s channel dmg. 300 range is not that much.

go play ranger
get to lv 80
and then show us a video of you “murderign everyone with OP 1500 range”
and then come talk

ranger’s 4 secound channel skill does HALF the dmg Theif’s backstab does…and backstab happens in 1 secound

hell theif’s dagger 2 skill is spammable and the dmg it puts out makes LB 2 look like TRASH

and that dagger 2 spammable is also a lunge. aka it closes the gap INSANELY FAST.
and you have steal. aka a 1200 range TELEPORT

if ranger loses its 1500 range LB

then theif needs to lose its 1200 range teleport(make it 300 range) and its dagger 2 lunge skill
and scorpion wire
and shadow step
and ALL OTHER LUNGES IT HAS

why? cause it has SO kitten MANY OF THEM. and SO MUCH MORE DMG. and STEALTH.

what does ranger have? 1500 range….which is so kitten easy to cover.

khaki tonic i’d buy!
khaki outfit i’d buy!
come on Anet T.T

yeah

lets switch the LB 2 skill from a channel skill that takes time to do its dmg and “traces” enemies.
into a skill that just does all the dmg at once! like theif skills!

then we can ask theifs what they prefer. a skill that takes time to do dmg and “traces” them.

or alpha dmg skill like all theif skills!

then maybe we will have less theives complaining about a skill that takes 4 secoudns to do all its dmg……
4 secounds…..vs 1 secound for the same ammount of dmg for a thief.

Donari.5237:

Sadly that is only concept art. I do still hold out hope that they will have some way to let us feel we are fighting something the size of a mountain range when we get to Kralkatorrik. Zhaitan was disappointingly small due to the needs of game mechanics. Maybe we’ll find that a good hunk of the HoT area is all part of Mordremoth and defeating him will wreck the ecosystem …

Anyway, Glint was a Champion as I understand it. I’d assume she’d be in the Shatterer/Claw range of sizes while manifested in Tyria.

in the novel. she was so small compared to her master that he was able to grab her neck, while she couldnt even reach his shoulder.

so i’d assume she’s 1/5 the side of him.

IF you want the trace part of ranger LB 2 skill removed. then i hope you realize your changing it from a channel skill that takes time to do its dmg. to a single hit burst skill(like theif is filled with)
so i hope your ready for a single 4-8k dmg hit. rather than numerous weak hits that give you time to negate the dmg by dodging or hiding behind an object.

DHawk.2687:

arenta.2953:

DHawk.2687:

the only thing i dislike about the longbow is that #2 causes vuln and it traces, for mesmer or thief it is kinda unfair, that even tho they go stealth or dodge once it won’t really change the fact that they are more or less kittened, I’m not trying to cry whine or call bs on other ppl
I’m just saying that it shouldn’t trace through stealth and cause vuln, it’s not needed
if a ranger can stay at long range, e.g. being positioned at highground the enemy can’t get too, you’ll never loose/die, unless you are a complete noob ^^
and honestly, the argument that LB isn’t good in pvp is just silly, LB is a long range weapon, pvp is close combat mostly, it doesn’t make any sense.
As I said, don’t let the #2 skill track through stealth and/or cause vuln

PS: ready for the hate to come raging down on me for saying this xD

ok so anythin that shows the location of a stealthed enemy
warrior’s full auto rifle skill
ranger’s traps and LB 2 skill
engineer mines
thief trap
ele’s fire sword (tracks target if it stealths during casting)
necro marks (and staff 1 skill follows target even if they stealth. so you see where theif is running)

and alot more.

so all of that has to be removed? so thief’s spammable steath can’t be countered as they spam it so much much its more spammable than the cooldown of the track skills?

oh and guardian scepter. that thing’s slow moving shots follow enemies when they stealth.

and technically any weapon with AoE like guardian staff or greatsword that shwos damage numbers when you hit stealthed enemies (look at damage panel)

I’ll take this as a troll or joke, because that’s exactly what it is

half joke half serious

LB’s 2 skill is for countering theifs as there isn’t much else to counter them with
complaining about LB’s trace is liek complaining about all channel skills.

but that the appeal to channel skills, they keep your enemys position.

if you make it so a channel skill fails when the target dissapears for one secound, then all channel skills become useless as they are then easy to break. (and channel skills are inferior to burst skilsl as they take time to do their dmg. hence the trace is what makes up for it)

LB’s 2 skill is fine as is.
until Anet does something about the stealth spam theifs who spam stealth non stop.
(specially as stealth heals the theif, removes conditions, lets them move faster, take less dmg…….if you want OP its a set up like that. the only counter is channel skills to counter them. and ranger’s pets certainly don’t help with their “sic em” ability….pets so weak the skill is all but useless with a long cooldown to boot.

DHawk.2687:

the only thing i dislike about the longbow is that #2 causes vuln and it traces, for mesmer or thief it is kinda unfair, that even tho they go stealth or dodge once it won’t really change the fact that they are more or less kittened, I’m not trying to cry whine or call bs on other ppl
I’m just saying that it shouldn’t trace through stealth and cause vuln, it’s not needed
if a ranger can stay at long range, e.g. being positioned at highground the enemy can’t get too, you’ll never loose/die, unless you are a complete noob ^^
and honestly, the argument that LB isn’t good in pvp is just silly, LB is a long range weapon, pvp is close combat mostly, it doesn’t make any sense.
As I said, don’t let the #2 skill track through stealth and/or cause vuln

PS: ready for the hate to come raging down on me for saying this xD

ok so anythin that shows the location of a stealthed enemy
warrior’s full auto rifle skill
ranger’s traps and LB 2 skill
engineer mines
thief trap
ele’s fire sword (tracks target if it stealths during casting)
necro marks (and staff 1 skill follows target even if they stealth. so you see where theif is running)

and alot more.

so all of that has to be removed? so thief’s spammable steath can’t be countered as they spam it so much much its more spammable than the cooldown of the track skills?

oh and guardian scepter. that thing’s slow moving shots follow enemies when they stealth.

and technically any weapon with AoE like guardian staff or greatsword that shwos damage numbers when you hit stealthed enemies (look at damage panel)

all must be removed because thiefs want spammy stealth to be godlike
-oh w8…spammable stealth already is godlike. ever tried to fight a thief spamming stealth in WvW? its next to immpossible to kill them.

Aethgar.1784:

I’ll totally trade you long flowing hair for dreads. You guys have so many dreads.

deal!

for asura hair….

this

Nilkemia.8507:

We need minis of those two as well.

Sigh…if only Forgal was there to see how easy Zhaitan goes down.

“What the hell? I died for this? That’s it, fly the ship closer! I’m jumping on that dragon and stabbing it’s face off!”

“Forgal, no! You don’t even know if you’re able to reach it!”

“I DON’T CARE!”

Shortly after….

Zhaitan : Ow ow ow ow ow confetti ow—hey, what that noise—oh no….

Forgal : rrrrrRRRRAAHHH! (lands on Zhaitan’s head and starts stabbing)

Zhaitan : No, NO! Not my face—my eyyyyeeesss, MY EYES! (falls off to his death)

this made my day

Lunaki.6935:

I’m a returning player after taking a break for about a year, and I just started collecting the carapace/lumi armor pieces, much to my disappointment.

I play Asura exclusively. I know this was my choice – but I feel like I’m being punished for it. Of course there have been complaints in the past over the scaling of things, because they’re so tiny it’s hard to see details of weapons we work so hard to make (I’m looking at you, immobulus) but that’s another thing entirely – my complaint today is, “why do female asura get the male version of most armors”?

The female humanoid version of the carapace/luminescent armor is amazing – the butterfly design is appealing, and it looks quite impressive. Now put it on a female asura, and you lose everything special about it. Even from a design perspective, I don’t see why female asura are always given the male armor skins. In some ways, making an asura wear skimpy armor would look weird, yes. But in this case specifically, I don’t understand why.

Probably nothing can be done about it this late, but in the future, I’d really love to see if Asura would get a better treatment in the armor (and weapon) skins department.

I suppose the same could be said for female Charr.

agreed

i mean come on….this is a female asura
how do you know?
idk….looks like a male

can we say Anet is showing us 18+ material by claiming a shirtless asura is female o.0

either that…..or that is the skimpiest armor ever. and GW2 needs a rating change. (and Asian needs to be alerted that theres a new standard to how little armor a character can be shown wearing in a non porn game)

heck, if we consider asura “childs” well….i’ll stop right there before Anet finds the government chasing them…….(gotta be careful with being lazy in game for what it can end up representing)

-i’m not saying i want asura with boobs. i like them AS IS. but i DO want them to actually have good outfits and not copy paste crap.

or stuff where no one at Anet thought “should a female not be wearing anything above her waist”
cultural/bilogical difference or not. society has norms….

+1
epic shot =D

Shadow Phage.9084:

Kodama.6453:

So you want ranger to become the only class which can choose one of two different class mechanics? I don’t think this will ever happen and it isn’t a good idea, because you are cutting build diversity of ranger by far with this one.

The five core specializations are meant to get combined as you wish, this isn’t able with your system because the line Beast Mastery becomes pointless if you are using preparations as class mechanic and the same for Expertise, if you are using pets as mechanic. I can see to get preparations as a new utility skill type in the future along with a new elite specialization.

I agree to a rework of the spirits, because they are really weak as they are now. They should give an unique buff to the team like frost spirit is already doing, because the other boon spreading spirits are boring and pointless because they have too many downsides for their benefit.

And btw: Crossfire isn’t just broken for a master trait, it would be even broken for a grandmaster. This would give your whole team permanent unblockable attacks. just ridiculous.

Yeah, Crossfire is…yeah. What about if I changed it to just your own attacks are unblockable if you and an ally share a target? (I’ll probably edit my rework to this)

But on to trait lines.
Rangers really only have 4 right now anyways. Nature Magic and Wilderness Survival practically fulfill the same role. To me, Nature Magic feels like the dumping ground for traits that wouldn’t fit into BM and WS due to the limited number of traits allowed per line. Not to mention, if you try to minimize your dependance on pet AI right now, you most likely won’t be spec’ing into BM.

@arenta
Search and Rescue is honestly a ‘meh’ skill. I couldn’t think of something else to put there though, at the time. Reviving fully dead, vs downed, players in combat is generally not a good idea nor is it fast. Honestly, to make Search and Rescue good I’d probably roll “Guard!” into it. Give the pet stealth and prot and send it on its way to rez someone.

aye
or make it so it works like a mark skill
where you activate the ability and it doesnt go on cooldown unless the pet finds something it can res
all the pet shouts need to be reworked…..or make pets durable an threatening enough to make the shouts work

Nebroxah.5387:

Ok, here we go. The new Revenant looks, well, amazing. I mean, dual-wielding swords with jade daggers that stab people as a healing spell awesome. This class seems totally prepared to dominate.

In fact… I hate to say it, but it might be too awesome.

I remember not too long ago, when I was playing Guild Wars 1. I ran a Warrior. Beefcake, sword and board at the ready, loaded up on Strength and ready to Hundred Blades any opponent into oblivion. But then came Nightfall. Then, came the Dervish.

Since that day, in Guild Wars 1, there has been no reason whatsoever to play a Warrior.
Damage? Dervish.
Tanking? Dervish.
Single-Target? Dervish.
Multi-Target? Especially Dervish.
More energy? Oh yeah, Dervish.
PVE kings? Dervish again.
PVP usability? What? Oh, Dervish.
Knock knock, who’s there? Dervish.
The only disadvantage to playing those sun-baked special snowflakes was having to fight in a dress.

The Warrior class lost not just its identity, but its usefulness. It’s not that there was a player preference to pick a Derv, it’s that there were clear gameplay advantages to picking a Derv without balancing factors. Ok, so their armor score wasn’t as high, but come on, you built the game with a meta that specifically drove away from tanking anyway, and decided to go for dps race / heals as the only factor.

So now, it’s 2015. I’m playing a Warrior. Again. In a meta without tanking. Again. And dang does this Revenant guy look awesome. I just hope he’s not too awesome.

i see your point and i’ll give u some hope

Class HP
every armor class has 3 HP values

Base Health at levels 1 and 80 Level 1 Base Health Level 80 Base Health Level 1 + Vitality Level 80 + Vitality
Warrior, Necromancer, 28 (24 Vit) 9,212 (926 Vit) 268 18,472
Engineer, Ranger, Mesmer, Revenant 18 (24 Vit) 5,922 (926 Vit) 258 15,182
Guardian, Thief, Elementalist 5 (24 Vit) 1,645 (926 Vit) 245 10,905

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Health

warrior has the hp.
and the ability to have armor,hp, and dmg at once

the revanent has more defense and attack and so on. but not at the same time

it focuses on one at a time.
so it goes offensive, but loses defense
it goes defensive. but loses offensive

this is where warrior shines, it doesnt give up anything in favor of the other. it gets both

data.4093:

Kalavier.1097:

Cantha is across an ocean, while we have major threats right in Tyria. It’d be a little weird lore-wise for us to suddenly trek to Cantha which, from what I recall, is actually doing decent, they just went isolationist and kicked out non-human sentient races.

Oh so cantha is now xenophobic like…japan and china? I guess Anet is being more true to oriental cultures than we thought…

lol….
so its more racist to not include cantha

than to include a racist cantha.

thats actually something Anet should consider =D

plus…..Cantha just kicked out the non human sentients?
oh god….Naga and Tengu gonna be makign such a big war in Cantha……
kitten the dragons i want to see that!

plus, most of the dragons seem to be taking their time doing stuff…
jormag is MIA still
as is kalkratoic (misspelled…)
(seriously. we haven’t seen either of these expandign their territory in game. they just sit there watching Zhaitan go squish)

bubbles is probably watching the fun in cantha.

and mordremoth? meh….few flamethrowers, maybe a tame dragon from Cantha or 2…..

the only 2 dragons we’ve seen actually doign crap is Zhaitan (now dead, all he did as raise orr. attack a bit. and then go on the defensive throughout the entire story….with 1 attack on lions arch that utterly failed)
and mordremoth(which doesn’t count. cause Scarlet was responsible for all of that….WHILE THE DRAGON WAS ASLEEP)

the dragons seem like they’ll wait a few years for us to finish some….issues (aka bandits, inquest, nightmare court, flame legion and so on)

i mean, during the massive distraction of scarlet making trouble, did any dragon….idk lay seige to a major city?
or expand their territory?

nope. they just sat there and watched.

so lets go on vacation to Cantha to help the Tengu get some bloody revenge. learn a bit about dragon lore and the mists.
and then come back and go back to attackign dragons that are all on the defensive(cause none of them know what “attack” means in…..how many years have they been active?)

Thats seriously the biggest flaw in the story
the Dragons always lose every battle with us as the story goes.

so how are they scary? they always on the defensive as no attacks work.

look at GW1. one of the first things that happens in EoTN is you kitten RUN out of a tunnel as minions of primordis destroy and chase you.

you lose ground. the dragon WON a fight. and put you on the defensive so you had to find a way to regain the initiative and attack.

in GW2. the closest we have to a lost battle is claw island, which doesn’t feel like a loss cause you, the player, never feels like your in trouble. you don’t have the challenge of actually losing.
no matter what you do, its to easy…..

failing a story missions a few times isn’t a bad thing, it makes it challenging and gives you the feeling that “this enemy is strong and actually winning.”

in GW1 factions, theres one mission they send so many minions after you that you lose alot!
so much so people pay to do the missions for you.
thats challenge!

and you DIE. Shiro kills you. he’s a extremely difficult boss at the end as well. as is the destroyer in EoTN!

gw2? whose challenging?

i like it
but for search and rescue
make it downed is priority. but if no downed is found, revive dead player

otherwise its to easy to waste the skill.

lordhelmos.7623:

“Good morning fellow Tyrians! Plyxi here and boy do I have a treat for you! Following his recent reveal as a supporting Legend in the new Guildwars 2: Heart of Thorns expansion, we were able to catch up with Shiro Tagachi to ask him a few questions about his return to the Guildwars universe.”

Plyxi: “Mr. Tagachi, I’d like to thank you for taking the time for this interview. Do you have any opening remarks for your Guildwars: Factions fans?”

At this point Shiro stood up and clenched his fists before taking a villainous pose.

Shiro: “I HAVE RETURNED!”

Plyxi: “Ahhh… ok, we sort of got that with the reveal. Anyway, is there any coffee or water that I can get you before we begin?”

Shiro: “What kind of food buff will this give me?”

Plyxi: “Ahh… healing power I believe.”

Shiro: “Disgusting!” He stands up and kicks over the table with the cups on it. A charr attendant comes over to move the broken table and mess off screen.

Plyxi: “Ok… that was unexpected. Mr. Tagachi. What can you tell us about your powers as a legend and it’s playstyle?”

Shiro: He ponders a moment and puts a hand to his chin “Well. Think of a warrior but with speed, teleports, and an aoe basilisk venom. Oh and you get awesome versions of my Shiro’ken blades made of jade that steal health. They aren’t as good as the real thing though.”

Plyxi: “So are you more or less satisfied with your skillbar loadout?”

Shiro: “I’m just disappointed that they didn’t use any of the original names for my skills. I mean come on! Battle Scars, Meditation of the Reaper, Against Impossible Odds… I put so much time into coming up with those cool names.” He sighs then shrugs “Well it could be worse. I suppose I didn’t get it as bad as those other legends.”

Plyxi: “Speaking of the other legends, what do you think about Jalis and Ventari?”

Shiro: He laughs. “Pathetic! I saw that Ventari guy on the way here in the bathroom. He slipped and slammed his head on one of the sinks. Poor guy couldn’t even heal himself because his tablet was stuck in the hallway. They had to call an ambulance. Jalis? I don’t know about him. I just saw him channeling his elite. I came back after lunch and he was still channeling.”

Plyxi: “Do you think you will have any synergy with the other legends?”

Shiro: “I don’t want to be caught dead paired up with those two. They better pair me up with Mallyx or Glint. Ahhh… Mallyx. I remember the good old days of us stomping newbies in the realm of torment… well until Ursanway came and ruined it all. I remember Mallyx being alot better in his prime though. Old Mallyx would have just facesmashed people instead of trying this condition mess. I keep telling him that power is the way to go. He’s as stubborn as that Lich. If the Lich was DPS specced during our last fight, we would have crushed those flameseeker heroes.”

Plyxi: “Are you looking forward to anything in the new Guildwars 2 expansion personally?”

Shiro: “Well I have replicas of my blades and armor lined up for sale in the Black Lion Gemstore. I’m sure I’ll have more gems than I know what to do with.”

Plyxi: “Any plans for those gems?”

Shiro: “I think I might use them to kickstart Shiroken University. It’s an online college with courses designed to teach young Quaggans how to properly spec into dps builds. My philosophy is that if you teach the younger generation the value of mass murder and damage early, you can make the world a better place.”

Plyxi: “I notice that you keep staring out the window, is there something wrong Mr. Tagachi?”

Shiro: “That idiot Revenant over there is heading into that fractal gate with cleric armor and a staff. I think we might need to cut this interview short. Someone needs to stop him. What is he trying to do? Trap his team in there for 5 hours?”

Shiro suddenly teleports to the revenant and bursts him into down state in 2 seconds. Some shouting can be heard.

“AND STAY DOWN THERE UNTIL YOU LEARN HOW TO REV!”

Plyxi: “Well there you go Tyrians! Shiro Tagachi, coming to a Revenant near you! Be sure to Preorder! I’ll see you next time, on Eye on Tyria!”

More screaming can be heard as Shiro begins to terrorize other staff Revenants.

message from cantha to tyria
“KEEP HIM. WE DON’T WANT HIM BACK. EVERY TIME HE SHOWS UP ON OUR LAND STUFF BLOWS UP”
Tyria’s response
“….anyone remember what Shiro did to Cantha to make them say that?”

message from cantha to tyria

“KEEP HIM. WE DON’T WANT HIM BACK. EVERY TIME HE SHOWS UP ON OUR LAND STUFF BLOWS UP”

Tyria’s response
“….anyone remember what Shiro did to Cantha to make them say that?”

Tigaseye.2047:

arenta.2953:

you know how female asura have that 1 piece bathing suit……..why?

Probably because it looks cuter and avoids people (who think it’s inappropriate for even little girls to show their chests) getting unnecessarily upset.

Also, historically, men and boys also wore one piece bathing suits.

i’m not mad about the swimsuit

i’m mad that the female version is an exact copy paste of the male version.

there were so many possibilities they could have done for the female one, they did it for all other races

but for asura….copy paste……

and it kittenes me off T.T

btw i’d buy this hair
and bathingsuit

status update would be nice

gw2 spoiled me by giving me FAR more content than $60 would usually give.
so i’m happy to buy HoT =)

even if it is only 1/4 the size of GW2’s original launch. i’d consider it worth it due to the ammount of content GW2 and HoT together gives for $120.

and new players get both for $60! if GW2 original launch was worth far more than $60,
then HoT+ GW2+ the content added in since launch makes that the best thing on the market.

i know i will be dissapointed by thief if it gets a staff (i wanted a rifle……)
and probably ranger since it gets a support staff….

but more content and stuff to mess with yay

( is it that hard to give us a medium armor rifle class? no….engineer doesn’t count. thats a SHOTGUN. not a rifle. )

DoogySnowStalker.2069:

Since they seem to be bringing more outfits from Guild Wars into Guild Wars 2, I would buy this outfit in a heart beat if they put it up.

same
but only if they make it look good for asura…..right now most asuran outfits for female are kinda lame
or bad

or just copy pasted male
like the picture i’m attaching. (this is a female asura…)

you know how female asura have that 1 piece bathing suit……..why? this picture shows they can show their chest without issue…..

how about this for an outfit

most asuran armor =/
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura_female_light_armor
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura_female_medium_armor

but….one in particular…

ugliest? idk…
creepiest..yes

this is a FEMALE asura…keep that in mind….(…..Anet just that lazy?)

(seriously why do they wear 1 piece swimsuits if they allowed to show off this much skin o.0)

permanent stow works for me. would make stealth missions alot easier.

also. anyone here played mabinogi before?
the game has a system(primitive compared to the AI we’re given for GW2 pets i’ll admit) where you can make a pet ai. basically make responses for it depending on what its target does (shoot ranged, charge target. if enemy comes in melee, fall back)

it would be alot of work for players to make a quality pet AI, but i think it would be fun.

plus u can use several AIs, changing your pets ai by shouting orders like
Aggro!
Heal!
support!
defend!

i can’t speak for PvP

but for PvE, ranger works great, built correctly(due to condition removal and GS evades. plus entangle/spike trap) its more durable than everything except guardian.

for WvW. in zerg its a great contibutor for sieges
for roaming its the 3rd best thing. the only stuff to watch out for are mesmers(if u see one just run. it is NOT kitteng worth fighting mesmers. you’ll probably die and if you somehow win, it will take so long its justnot worth it) and stealth spam thiefs(u know, the pistol/dagger or dagger/pistol ones who spam stealth every other attack) its just not worth bothering fighting them as they’ll outrun you, they’re immpossible to hold down to kill, and it takes so long