Guild Wars 2

Praise the sun!!!

People have begun to notice this!!!

I thought I was going insane with my guardian “staff 1+renewed justice+inspired virtue.”
There were plenty of times I should have been dumping might and looting bags… Not that it’s abusive or anything.

LOL
Serious pvp in this game?
This is all casual pvp. The nerfs, and balance failures and the fact they barely throw pvp a bone, is enough to know they don’t give a flying squirrel about this game mode (or wvw).
Basically these random, borked pvp tournaments is all softnet will give to pvp’ers.

I have greater expectations of finding a decoder ring out of a cereal box, than seeing anything actually interesting done with pvp.

Conditions were traditionally secondary damage.
In gw2, it’s become a primary source of damage but it’s not implemented all that well…

- condition cap
- condition duration
- condition removal/immunity
- condition bunker builds
- high condition burst damage (wtf?)

For small-scale pvp and only such, conditions completely destroy and are far more efficient than direct damage. On a bigger scale like zerg wvw, where condition removal is flying everywhere, condition damage becomes less effective but crowd control conditions remain strong.

I really think anet created more issues for themselves in having to deal with two primary sources of damage…
I’d rather we go back to conditions being secondary and the main source of damage being direct.

Is Reaper’s Precision any good?
I’m trying to figure in some way of generating LF in pvp.

Aza.2105:

Vargamonth.2047:

For example, they provided reasons for the guardian to lack mobility, but all the reasoning was done from the perspective of a tanky supportive spec. I still can’t realize how a “25% movement speed increase while wielding a melee weapon” as an adept major in Zeal could hurt the balance.

Well it would be adverse to their holes in roles philosophy. The only reason why guardian doesn’t have great mobility is because of that philosophy. From the perspective of how most users view balance, it wouldn’t hurt anything.

But Anets idea is that no class should be able to do all things. If guardian can do support, big damage, have the best ranged weapon and have great mobility then why choose another class like thief who doesn’t have great support?

I feel what they said about thief applies to guardian and likewise all classes. That thief can have better survival but they will have to sacrifice damage. Guardian can have mobility but it will require giving up many things to achieve it. Like staff, retreat and lots of boon duration is a definite sacrifice to other aspects that can be increased.

We cut short with the recent change to Guardian…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/June-17th-Patch-Addendum/first#post4133816

So what? Runes of centuar/speed/travelers mandatory now?

The trinity is even more DDD (D3 or 3D) with the nerf of reflects…

Hell even guardians barrier skills now put us in combat with the recent change….

Guardian hold up in the rear… Guys, wait for him to catch up…

People cried for this mess of a story?

I bet few could recall moments when their dams blew wide open, releasing a torrent of salty tears, over anything in the personal story.
Maybe when our BFF died but that’s only just one time…

We’ve all (meaning many) become digesters of poorly-crafted/articulated media…

Morfedel.4165:

So, if anyone is actually interested, I decided what the heck, and created a guild for the sole purpose of playing EotM the RIGHT WAY, hehe…

I named it Badwrongfun, and gave the tag [Haha]

So, I’m not claiming to be some great leader or anything, so I’ll be up for advice. But in the meantime, if you are interested in joining for some EotM badwrongfun, send me an in game whisper and I’ll invite you

(and if we end up on different colors, well, we will have badwrongfun together anyway

Totally behind this!

I can usually beat thieves with my warrior, this evade thief I fought… It was just kitten ridiculous not a single hit. Just evade/blind spam.

I just about ate my keyboard after dying from that atrocity….

Where is this multi-server eotm troll guild at???

Halo.8976:

As a wuwuw player, I honestly LOVE eotm how it is. This map is like open world pvp in pve zone, that’s so freaking awesome. If I feel like it, I can even cause wipes of my own zergs (just by wiping other zerg and making them respawn).

Still working on my collection, when I have time to bother with a screenshot:

OMG This is hilarious!!!!

Blix.8021:

Johje Holan.4607:

Aw man I wish I could find a time when people are actually fighting in EOTM. That would be great. I had high hopes when it first was announced but then…

Maybe we should designate a particular match at a particular time to be a real match. Where people could come and actually fight. Maybe do it a few times a week.

Would need some guilds to organize it though.

That’s the thing, the people posting here aren’t fighting. They’re setting up siege and sitting on superior arrow carts and killing people who have no desire or capability to fight. The landscape in eotm is horrible for actual wvw style fighting. Every gvg or large wvw guild wants open fields and what is eotm? Cramped and full of ledges.

If enough people decide to troll eotm ktrains, then the ktrainers will just quit and then the trolls won’t have anybody to troll, so they’ll leave too. Then who will use the map? Nobody.

Eotm is just a terrible game mode and I hate how much time they wasted in creating it.

If that’s what it comes down to. Then eotm was badly designed off the sketchboard, as you said.

Due to there being only minor changes to the “dynamics” of pvp play (tpvp, spvp), players have given up hope of and have now degraded into subhuman, mushroom-eating neckbeards hellbent on relieving their angst upon the weak and feeble pve-ers and devour them whole.

Is there an EOTM trolling guild out there? I’d join right away.

After seeing this thread I’m convinced this is the true path!

OOOH BOY!!
What is this bullkitten????

“Guardians in a good place” and they felt the need to change this???

WHYY????!!

Seeing more thieves running around with Thieves’ Guild and eles with their actual elemental summons.

What in the kitten is going on with the adds and summons lately….

Really? Can’t fix stupid.
Nothing to see here folks, move along.

I hate this map in all game modes. Rolling this 4-5 times in hotjoin or sque. To hell with this…..

infantrydivEU.9670:

You think anyone cares?

4v5 and Skyhammer are the foundation of this games pvp. If you don’t like it find another game and quit whining please.

Awesome. 8/10, brah.

Deli.1302:

grifflyman.8102:

This is the result of transfers and it’s killing the game. Transfers are NOT the answer to kitten WvW mechanics.

People are allowed to do what they want to get the most fun out of the game. If it means transferring to a more desirable server, then who are we to say that what they are doing is wrong.

I mean, I’m 100% sure your server is trying to get transfers as well. Let’s not be hypocritical just because one server was more successful than others.

Also, why do you care about the score in the first place? What reason do you have to care for ppt? Just have fun and look for fights.

I believe he is talking about that free transfer catastrophe before the s2 wvw tournament. I still can’t get over it…
Devona’s Rest is #2 in NA bronze and having to always be pit against Gate of Madness (#1) is depressing. We already know people guess which servers would win and stacked on them (self-fulfilling prophecy).
The fact that there were no free transfers after makes it feel like we’re still in the kitten tournament week after week….

Morrenasha
Devona’s Rest
PvX
Just started a another ranger.~

Reflects became worthless against many bosses.

Don’t forget!!

R.I.P.

callidus.7085:

I like the new way to acquire traits :-P I just wish it was like this from the start so no one could complain. This gives your character some horizontal progression and I can’t wait for more and more new traits to acquire (I can hope :-P )

It really brings back skill collection from gw1.. Now if only they made it so skills were acquired this way too… Then I’d truly be happy ^.^

Well if you know gw1, as you say…

“Traits” worked similar to attribute bonuses and there was no need for any sort of “attribute acquiring” system other than leveling itself.

You are right about the healing skills, utility skills, and elite skills. They should have been acquirable/bought from the start.

Sadly, mobs in this game don’t use the same skills as we do and very rarely do you find similar parallels between mob and player skills. So it wouldn’t work out unless mobs were completely redesigned from the ground up, including better AI.

In retrospect, they really squandered some great ideas from gw1…

Unfortunately, this is supposed to be advice to new players or even old players with new alts.

“Go run EOTM train”
“Just buy the traits and be done with it”

It’s horrible to see that so many are so comfortable with the back pedaling on Anet’s part. This is ignorance reminiscent of the NA’s volatile and toxic political environment.

It’s a kitten shame that Anet dictates how we should play and the rousing rabble of support in lieu of such horrible changes.

Truly dark times.

I’ve seen a lot of “can we please have X weapon” over the past 2 years.

I wonder how much longer you all will be twiddling your thumbs.

dutchiez.7502:

Could you elaborate? When do they go invulnerable? Is it really invulnerable or “evade”?

I’m kiting in front of the table where the burrow is. I gather all of the gravelings that spawn and while I’m kiting them they suddenly, stop attacking me, go invulnerable and run to Hodgins.
They don’t even have the invulnerable buff on them and it drives me crazy every time it happens.

I’m on my guardian using the staff and I just don’t understand!!!

Why in AC P1 do the gravelings becoming invulnerable?

I’m trying to defend hodgins and it’s near impossible when the mob go invulner for 10 seconds and destroy him….

Is this some bug or glitch??? I’ve haven’t seen a thread about it yet…

Sorry. No new weapons.

Anet needs new skins to sell for 1600 gems in the store.

sorudo.9054:

Teckos.1305:

think that the one handed hammer is called a mace.(well gw2 has next to no satisfying mace skins)

pff, all the mace skills suck beyond believe, the skin is the least of my concern.

also, a mace IS NOT the same as a hammer, do we need a sesamstreet episode about the difference or are you guys smart enough to handle that little lesson on your own…..

I thought I should mention something about redundancy but that’s as far as I’ll go on it. Although, I’m waiting for scepter off-hands to show up.

sirflamesword.3896:

April 15th 2014 Feature Patch: Celestial equipment stats increased by 6%.

They ADDED something to it where the took AWAY magic find from it when everyone had the chance to change it. So stop, just stop. Honestly it sounds like you are just angry that YOU decided to make celestial ascended armor instead of picking something that is more useful.

So this becomes the players fault? Just wow.

No one has yet to mind read any of the crazy stuff anet does in this game, to prepare players for the wave of _quote_*BALANCE*_/quote_ changes.

Sorry about your lost op, if you desire to keep playing either your character or this game you’ll probably have to switch out of celestial.

It’s weird how games portray male and female armor. For the most part males look like transformers and females usually wearing strips of cloth…
I don’t understand why we can’t have it both ways…
GW2 attempts to rectify this but it’s a rather flimsy attempt.

I’d love to play more female characters but I can’t stand some of the lousy/inappropriate/nonsensical armor designed for them.

Women don’t need to be or “feel” protected! Just show the goods!! HAHA HEEHEE

wtf is this….and boobsocks I hate them soo much ARRGGGGGHHHHHH

Once they get rid of underwater, you’ll have your weapons.

In combat move speed reduction needs to go. I have no idea why we even have it.
Might it be because projectile weapons would never hit??

That crazy ele healing. My guard can take that and even if I switched to all deeps, I still don’t think I could down a decent ele.

Whoa there, hombre.

Guardian still needs zeal symbol traits to rework/removed, spirit weapons need to be useful outside of spvp, an actual ranged weapon, and a couple of other things first….

There are far better reasons why pvp in this game is garbage.

Wow a lot of you supporters have really talked yourself into believing this one…

Amazing…. NCSofts/Anets psych department is probably eating this kitten kaboodle up.

zenleto.6179:

iro.6258:

Would marriage be a good Idea to add into the game?

I’ll be serious for a sec. Daoc had marriage and some people loved it (couples and RPers) and everyone else ignored it, as you’d expect. Considering the stance that Anet seems to have developed towards supporting RP aspects of the game I’d say it won’t ever come in. For Rpers it would be nice.

As for your question: its neither a good idea or a bad idea.

Since when has Anet done anything for Rpers?

Oh yes! Megaservers. Excellent. So let’s see how they will kitten this up.

Azrael.4960:

Valento.9852:

I’m about to puke.

Well, that was a constructive addition to the discussion. Mad Queen Malafide summed it up nicely. Like with any system, the users came up with what was effectively an exploit and abused that exploit to the point that it affected their behaviour. THIS is why the trains had to go.

So you’re telling me when players strategize and coordinate to accomplish something in PvE it is effectively an exploit?

Teq, tri-wurms, dungeons, meta events, wotm are all now exploits.
I think you have the right answer there..

Ignavia.7420:

Swim.6830:

If they were added to the gemstore I’d have bought like 2. Since it’s another RNG game, no gems will be bought nor spent for this from me…

Then buy gems, convert them to gold and buy the skins on the trading post if they become available.

This is exactly what anet wants you to do. In fact they’ve been posting it again and again after every update at the bottom of the page, encouraging people to buy gold.

Why? Skins, simply.

You got the gamblers dropping caskittens or people “playing the game” for keys for the explicit purpose of getting the ticket pieces.
Player A spends money to get the keys, win for anet.
Player B invest more time in the game, anet “keeps” a player. Win again.

At some point, tickets. 3 choices: keep the ticket for future skins, buy a skins for self or buy a skin to sell. So let’s sell it (completely crazy, to do this)!

Player C wants that skin. Yes, that one there. That GS sure looks purdy. 255g?? How do I get that?
Fast and easy: convert gems to gold.
Slow and “rewarding”: Set it as a goal over the next couple years
Best option? Have your TP wizard license.

Really your options are fairly limited if you want to get a skin. Since everyone is not a TP wizard your best and safest bet is to drudge it out, but hey at least we got the wardrobe now so you don’t have to get one for every alt!

Stark.1350:

Devata.6589:

Stark.1350:

I play every day. I lead a great guild that’s constantly growing. We have guild events every other day. Always find something to do.

What sort of stuff do you guys organise?

Arah nights for Dungeon Master runs. Diving Goggle runs. Mini dungeon runs. Guild pvp night. Guild WvW night. Dungeon nights. Silly things like costume brawl races or beach parties. Event nights for alts. 1v1 tournaments. No UI nights (that’s a riot). World boss nights. Guild missions every Saturday. Jumping puzzle nights. Jumping puzzle races. Guild hide n’seek. Edge of the Mists night. We’ve had a costume contest. Last day in L.A. party. Pink Day in L.A. for breast cancer awareness. Belcher’s Bluff nights. The list goes on.

I understand that’s all cool and everything but GW2 is trending towards being a social game with some “interesting” PvE/PvP tack ons and occasional events, yet missing a lot of those important “social features.”

I don’t really play this “game” anymore… I just drop in to chat with the guildies but I don’t want to strain myself (and time) trying to figure things I could do for myself only. There’s plenty to do with people but not much for the individual…

Edit: Thought I should highlight this, individual goals are very shallow in this game.

eh, no thread merge yet?

Fantastic…

No sort of feedback?

Looks like guardians are just content with the stagnation it seems.

Awww yeah time to have this discussion again!!!

But let me start off with this: Necro recently had the minion minor adept and master traits revamped with their effects merged with existing traits.

BUT you look at our Zeal minors and ALL of them are about symbols. Why hasn’t this even been considered for change yet?

Not all of weapons even use symbols and most guardians don’t even take any symbol traits beyond Writ of Exhalation or even go beyond 10 points in Zeal. The only positive is that the symbols themselves are fairly decent without traiting them, pretty much the only good out of this.

How do you guys feel about this? Heck I was back far enough in this game to remember when symbols were utility skills and still the symbol traits are just as bad as they were way back then.

Guardians are “in a good place,” I’ll never forget this, as that statement was nothing but smoke to cover our flaws that only a seasoned guardian would be able to kitten.

Don’t we already have a lot of damage modifiers?

And yeah passive play… Yeah you might be brewing up a storm…

Stars.2179:

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BINGO! You nailed it. Out healing IS CRAP! And it is working as intended? Why? Because ANet doesn’t want a “dedicated healer” role in any group. You can support, you just can’t be a healer.

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In order for healing to be good you have to go towards having a dedicated healing role. It is like passive defense. If you want passive defense to be worth more you have to nerf active defense and support aggressively since they are the reason why you don’t want passive defense in the first place since active defense and support abilities are stronger in every way. And that is part of the design really. In other MMORPGs other classes don’t have self heals or very low heals. Therefore, the importance of healing is greater regardless of the amount since at some point you need to heal a bit during a fight (think passive signet heals). GW2 isn’t like this. Making healing stronger so that it will be more appealing would just make it OP and break the game. Since not only do you have a giant self heal but an ally can heal for a significant amount where damage from a mob or boss wouldn’t matter anymore since you can out heal that.

Greatest misconception is this point. DPS builds have a lot of support in them. Look at the DPS Guardian build for PvE it has as much or even more support compared to say AH or Pure Voice Guardian builds. In fact support is used greatly by DPS builds. Banners? Aegis? Blinds? Buffs? Protection? Reflects? Condition Removal? These aren’t supports?

The problem is that you are seeing it like this healing = support and support = healing. Therefore, if healing sucks then there isn’t support in the game and in order to have support you must have healing where it is viable. Buffing healing too much is problematic as I pointed out above. So the focus should be on other types of support instead of healing.

This begs the question why healing? Everyone is able to support through other means. Isn’t it enough to blind mobs in order to protect your team. How about that well timed aegis to protect against a one shot move? How is healing more interesting than some other support mechanics in the game?

Finally, last I check in order to complete stuff something has to die so at some point damage has to be in the equation. DPS isn’t just about time it is about completion since if you don’t do damage to a boss to take it down how would you complete it?

Yes, we understand these things. But then we wonder why we have a healing stat at all. Healing could be just fixed or based on a percentage of our health. In fact I don’t know why they haven’t done this yet!!
Of the support options in the game, healing support is the weakest. It’s not on par with the other ways you can support. If Anet had so wanted to break the “healer archetype” why are there ways to heal others?
Really, at this point healing power is nothing more than a ploy to deceive players that there can be, in any way, healing support.

Fixed or percentage based healing with reduced healing on others. Why can’t they just do this?
I don’t know. Healing power is just peachy.

Erick Alastor.3917:

blakdoxa.7520:

Lord Kuru.3685:

• Run EoTM karma train until you’re 80.
• Look up a build on the web and with the gold you’ve earned, buy only the traits you need.
• Spend the rest of your gold on gear.
• Begin to play the game.

This is pretty much how Anet wants people to play the game now.

Luckily, I was grandfathered in, don’t waste any time with ascended, and create my own builds.
For everyone else that needs to level… kitten I feel bad for you guys…

Sartharina.3542:

I think people really don’t understand how Guild Wars 2 is supposed to be played, given how much they’re treating it like other MMOs.

Am I the only one to hang around whatever area I feel like simply because I enjoy the scenery and find the enemies fun to fight?

Not everyone has the same motivations. :/
It’s nice to look at and enjoy with the background music for a few times but I don’t understand how you’re “playing the game” if you’re just “looking at the sights.”

All have their own peculiar way of playing

I giving you and ups for that. xD

Seems people are still shooting in the dark here.

Op doesn’t want a healer, but healing itself to actually be useful beyond your self-healing skill. In terms of support (i.e. helping others), healing support is terrible compared to other support options.
That’s why it’s often tossed aside. Also add to the fact that it requires a lot of invest to even be mediocre.
The scaling can be revised so it can actually be useful support for those that want to invest in it.

Lord Kuru.3685:

• Run EoTM karma train until you’re 80.
• Look up a build on the web and with the gold you’ve earned, buy only the traits you need.
• Spend the rest of your gold on gear.
• Begin to play the game.

This is pretty much how Anet wants people to play the game now.

Luckily, I was grandfathered in, don’t waste any time with ascended, and create my own builds.
For everyone else that needs to level… kitten I feel bad for you guys…

Sartharina.3542:

I think people really don’t understand how Guild Wars 2 is supposed to be played, given how much they’re treating it like other MMOs.

Am I the only one to hang around whatever area I feel like simply because I enjoy the scenery and find the enemies fun to fight?

Not everyone has the same motivations. :/
It’s nice to look at and enjoy with the background music for a few times but I don’t understand how you’re “playing the game” if you’re just “looking at the sights.”

Old system with free respec anywhere and trait unlocks that remotely made sense would have been perfect but that’s not what we have…

I think the op is saying healing support in comparison to other support options is pretty kitten useless.
Like we may as well not have healing power or regeneration because they both are terrible. Whereas other boons (might, fury, prot, aegis, vigor), conditions, and cc excel anything you could ever do with healing power.
Generally speaking, “healing” support is no where near on par with the rest of the support options and therefore has little (niche) to no use.