Guild Wars 2

What I was trying to say was that Gw2 is more steam punk than high si-fi so what you want added really doesn’t fit.

Dear forum moderators – can we pretty please get all of these duplicate threads a sticky or even better start a new section of the forums called “The Dead Horse”.

Sir Tripsalot.1803:

Too late for that. When Anet decided to cap off gear progression at exotic it created an overly balanced pvp scenario with nothing to work for. Realizing their mistake, they began to add ascended tier items to the game, but even the minimal stat increase that ascended gear grants there are still hordes of players QQ’ing about how the 15 or so extra stats from ascended weapons is so unfair. I mean, how dare they let a player work towards a goal that might actually give them an advantage that is so slight, it’s virtually unnoticeable! The nerve! Sadly however, a large portion of the game was spoiled and now thinks this way, you know, the type that blames a lost fight on his opponent’s weapon instead of admitting he was beat. They would never allow Anet to even consider a progression system going higher than the one there is now. However, that just brings us back to the original problem: the lack of progression.

The advantage is not slight. Replace your ascended weapon and trinkets with exotics then go run around in WvW. I did just to see what sort of difference it made and I was surprised.

The Asura use techno-magic that is usually pretty dangerous to the user and the Charr have had a industrial revolution. The pictures you included are high si-fi instead of the steam punk that gw had.

“Merged with the 50+ other mount threads”. Honestly I wish they would sticky this subject and duels at the very least.

sorudo.9054:

i do wonder, why do ppl want to ruin it for PvE players while you have WvW?
i mean, if duels are possible there then i don’t mind, it doesn’t affect me since i barely go there at all.

What if I want to duel someone in my guild to test out a new build? Don’t get me wrong I personally only want dueling in a arena setting – not across the whole world but sadly most of the people that want dueling want all or nothing.

Just like food it’s your choice whether to use it or not. I don’t have it yet because I put the points in something else – so i pay the price and I’m fine with that.

No Walking.6349:

So I finally got my first ascended weapon drop and it’s Celestial. Only problem is, that out of all 8 of my lvl 80 characters, not a single one of them uses celestial weapons. Is there anything I can do with this item, or is it doomed to rot in my bank forever? The ascended weapon I’ve been wanting is zerker, which I’ve been grinding out for some time now.

Some professions like ele’s use celestial in wvw.

If I happen to be masochistic enough to champ farm in queensdale I just mail them along with a stack of butter or red meat to random people I don’t know.

I really wish they would do something like sticky these topics that come up every week since the game launched. It’s the same arguments worded differently in every one. I know lets start another mount thread!

Andrew Clear.1750:

I am starting to think that WvW players cry too much. Who cares about the toxics. Kill them or don’t.

I know they kill Dolyaks. I know they can kill sentries. I have seen them even attack a keep. Who cares. They aren’t legendary, and are as easy, if not easier, to kill than a sentry.

This is just a bunch of cry babies, crying again, because all they want to do is cry about anything anet does to WvW.

If I was anet, I wouldn’t even try to work on WvW with all the cry babies that post on the forum.

Why can’t we have serious discussions on the forums, that do not involve crying over something?

You where just crying about crying and that makes me want to cry.

negerleif.2106:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

You can find all of the arguments for and against your idea on page 3 suggestions

the only argument people use against this is " its will only be “duel me brah, you scared”

thats not a very solid argument IMO

while there are ALOT of good arguments on why to implement a duel feature.

I never said that I was against dueling. I just don’t want it every where I have already stated in “the weekly duel threads” that I’m more than ok with dueling in limited areas. The arena in the black citadel would be an awesome place to duel.

Leo Paul.1659:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

You do realize that not all players like those stupid flappy ugly wings right. /vomit And before you say that I don’t have to buy them – I realize that but I have to see that ugly screen clutter any way. When they first started with the wings it annoyed me to no end waiting for an event with 50 pair of eye sores.

Pft! You don’t HAVE to buy them you know! We want our wings! Feathery, gold, flapping with feather trails when we walk!

Or a nine-tails “backpiece” too.. XD Kitsune!

Have all the wings you want as long as there is an option for me to not have to see them. Imo they are eye sores.

You can find all of the arguments for and against your idea on page 3 suggestions

I really wish the few people that wanted mounts would just play a game with mounts. Why should a small very vocal group of players want to jack the game up for every one else – that’s how we ended up with ascended gear, Tequatl, and everything else in this game that wasn’t there at launch that sucks.

You do realize that not all players like those stupid flappy ugly wings right. /vomit And before you say that I don’t have to buy them – I realize that but I have to see that ugly screen clutter any way. When they first started with the wings it annoyed me to no end waiting for an event with 50 pair of eye sores.

dbgamer.3407:

Zacchary.6183:

If players wanted mounts in the first place, players would have bought the broom and drill enough to show that those things are desirable. In turn, arenanet would make more to sell like the infinite tools.

However, that never happened.

Now even though this horse has been beaten way more than the thieves horse and the same arguments have been thrown around for possibly (and literally) the 1000th time I have a question to ask:

What in blue blazes makes you think arenanet is going to change the whole game just so arenanet could make mounts for a minority.

There are at least a couple of flaws I see with this.

First, you think that the number of Broom and Drill sales is exactly equal to the demand for mounts in general? I don’t even know how to explain why this is wrong.

Second, why would ANET have to change the entire game? If the Broom exists, to your example, why could there not be other mounts that function in the exact same way? or in a slightly different way that would require small changes?

Third, where are you getting your statistics around people who want mounts being the “minority”? If this is the 1000th thread, doesn’t that lend some credibility to the fact that maybe there is more demand than you think?

If you read through the 50 threads on this subject you would know that mounts implemented the way they are in the gem store isn’t good enough for most mount lovers. They want the over the top speed buffs, flying etc. Also if you were to go through all of those threads and really look and keep track of the names you would see that it’s only about 25% that want mounts. Thank you for necroing this thread before some other game refugee that has played for a week decided they needed another thread on the subject.

I must have missed something, because I played GW1 for 6 years, and I never saw a single mount.[/quote]

Siege devourer in EotN and the giant worms in Night fall.

Gummy.4278:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

Gummy.4278:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

So would all of you mount lovers be cool if they implemented the limited mounts like in GW1 and add a few more to the gem store? I could live with that. Any thing else though would be too much for reasons stated all throughout the multiple threads on this subject.

I want a new mount system that combines all three type of mounts Cosmetic, Speed & Combat into a New Non-Traditional Mount System, a marriage of them that would align with the weapon bundle system, similar to how engineer’s use the Flamethrower, with skills that would replace the 1-5 on your bar giving new skills to use in combat that have a working kind of sense for the mount that you are driving. That has Gw2 written all over it, its something no one will see as something done in other games or as you say traditional. Yes I asked for a 25% speed continuous speed which is in my view not game breaking since you have to equip the mount into a skill slot and you would have to do the same with a signet that would give the same effect. A select few mounts getting one of there skills that gives a small speed buff to 50% for 2 seconds or 33% for 5 seconds, some might get a skill that allows you to pull a downed played out of red circles to rez them at a distance.

And that is my problem with all of you mount lovers – It’s all or nothing. This world is small enough without a constant 25% speed. And what about your mounts in WvW? Don’t just throw around “it wouldn’t be game breaking” because you want them so bad because from where I’m sitting it would be. “its the same thing as using a signet” – No it isn’t a signet is one skill- yet you said that it would work like the engineer kits which are 5 skills.

And that is my problem with all of you mount naysayers – It’s nothing for all. Yet so many classes have a signet that allows 25% constant speed unless you go into combat.

No this would not be allowed in the current WvW….but I have suggested also for another area in the Mist that is for all out Mounted Combat….and not just the mounts that could be added with my idea for mounts. I want to see those huge Charr War Tanks in action. Maybe they would need a team to operate them effectively. Also not only that but you could do mounts that you ride on the surface of the water something that you can not do in the game currently is fight on the surface of water.

Yes it would work just like a signet based off a weapon skill in that passively you would see yourself mounted and going at 25% without the skills, this does not mean that everyone has to see you as mounted, they could have an option to turn off the visual for their screen, the same way they do culling. Activating the mount would bring out the mounted combat side of the skill replacing your skill bar with the new mounted skills. If Anet wants to, they could make this part of the mount be set on a timer so you can only have this skill set for a limited time. But I still don’t see them as being game breaking as I know that if they found that we would use it in that way that would, they would “eventually” balance the skills that you get, so its not game breaking. Plus I am looking for a skill set that has never been done unique to the type of mount that you are riding/driving.
Basically if Anet wanted to do this, I would not mind if the WvW area was the only place that the skill could be used actively but would want the skill to be available in pve for all classes to use just for the passive mounted 25%, but I know that Anet could make it so it was not stupid even with the active skills working in pve as well.

You apparently only skim the post and ignore what you don’t want to hear. I have already stated that I would be cool with gem store mounts the way they are now or mounts the way they were implemented in Gw1. Speed is one of the factors in class balancing so using the fact that some classes don’t have that boost is just silly. In addition, you never did address the fact that a signet is ONE SKILL. What you are talking about (using it like an engie kit) is 5 skills in 1 utility slot.

Tyops.5894:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

I used to get discouraged with the blow out matches but then I decided to change my strategy when it happened. There is more than one way out of your spawn if you are getting spawn camped. If you have a small group 2-5 with some mobility you can avoid those blobs and kill yaks, sentries, guards, flip camps and knock on doors to get the blobs attention. Will you die – sure but if you are out manned you don’t have to worry about armor repairs and there is no consequence to dying other than your pride. If you do these things you are a pain to your enemy and that gives me satisfaction. I don’t care about the rewards or the ppt any more since I started playing this way.

You are ,making the best out of a bad situation on NSP, anyone who still WvWs on NSP has to. But don’t kid yourself, this season 1 is a debacle.

For season 1 NSP has been awarded 7-weeks of horribly lopsided unwinable matches. For our trouble we are locked in for the worst or second worst possible rewards. And as extra icing on that, our most frequent enemies will all have fancy new finishers from the top of bronze league.

I know this is somewhat of an overreaction, but ANet should be compensating the NSP WvW community and whoever else was in a similar situation for our participation in their botched and failed experiment. Instead they are rewarding our most frequent enemies (who allegedly tanked their scores to ensure they would be in Bronze).

I don’t envy ANet’s position in this situation, if they give out bad rewards there will be crying and gnashing of teeth from the top tier servers. If they give out good rewards, everyone else will angry. If they give out the same rewards to everyone then what was the point?

The saddest part of all this was that any consultation would have revealed immediately how bad an idea this would have been.

Don’t get me wrong – the whole thing has been a disaster since it was announced. My sincere hope is that A-net learns from this and there is no season 2 until they fix the elephant in the room, if at all.

Gummy.4278:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

So would all of you mount lovers be cool if they implemented the limited mounts like in GW1 and add a few more to the gem store? I could live with that. Any thing else though would be too much for reasons stated all throughout the multiple threads on this subject.

I want a new mount system that combines all three type of mounts Cosmetic, Speed & Combat into a New Non-Traditional Mount System, a marriage of them that would align with the weapon bundle system, similar to how engineer’s use the Flamethrower, with skills that would replace the 1-5 on your bar giving new skills to use in combat that have a working kind of sense for the mount that you are driving. That has Gw2 written all over it, its something no one will see as something done in other games or as you say traditional. Yes I asked for a 25% speed continuous speed which is in my view not game breaking since you have to equip the mount into a skill slot and you would have to do the same with a signet that would give the same effect. A select few mounts getting one of there skills that gives a small speed buff to 50% for 2 seconds or 33% for 5 seconds, some might get a skill that allows you to pull a downed played out of red circles to rez them at a distance.

And that is my problem with all of you mount lovers – It’s all or nothing. This world is small enough without a constant 25% speed. And what about your mounts in WvW? Don’t just throw around “it wouldn’t be game breaking” because you want them so bad because from where I’m sitting it would be. “its the same thing as using a signet” – No it isn’t a signet is one skill- yet you said that it would work like the engineer kits which are 5 skills.

I used to get discouraged with the blow out matches but then I decided to change my strategy when it happened. There is more than one way out of your spawn if you are getting spawn camped. If you have a small group 2-5 with some mobility you can avoid those blobs and kill yaks, sentries, guards, flip camps and knock on doors to get the blobs attention. Will you die – sure but if you are out manned you don’t have to worry about armor repairs and there is no consequence to dying other than your pride. If you do these things you are a pain to your enemy and that gives me satisfaction. I don’t care about the rewards or the ppt any more since I started playing this way.

So would all of you mount lovers be cool if they implemented the limited mounts like in GW1 and add a few more to the gem store? I could live with that. Any thing else though would be too much for reasons stated all throughout the multiple threads on this subject.

Becka Williams.4978:

lordkrall.7241:

Becka Williams.4978:

Good for you. Some of us need a reason to fight, not just fighting for it’s own sake.

And that is one of the biggest issues with todays gamers.
Instead of playing for the sake of fun, they feel the need to get something as a reward for playing.

And if you don’t think you are contributing, then you are clearly doing something wrong in WvW.
In WvW every single person is able to contribute in a real and useful way.

I feel like I’m contributing. I just feel like my server was set up to fail season 1 from the start. That’s not really a good motivator.

My server has gotten gut punched since the season 1 started. I try to not let the spawn camping and karma trains bother me. I get a vast sense of satisfaction running a havok group far behind their lines to flip camps and knock on doors to divert/break up their zerg – but I guess that’s just me.

I fight for fights, not rewards.

clint.5681:

The only people who really have the a problem wight the runes are the same ppl who call thieves OP and the same people who can’t simply dodge a slow warrior hammer attack.

What this guy said. I had a problem with thieves and perplexity runes until I figured out how to counter them.

AuldWolf.7598:

Henge.3907:

Ewwww Kerra on EQ. Yuck. Its the Charrs attitude and machinery that make me play them and their ferocious look.

That just sounds like biases, but I’d like to address some things.

Ferocious Look

You can make something look dangerous without making it look grotesque. The kerra in the image looks like it could smack you through a wall, and it doesn’t need a face that not even a mother would bring herself to love in order to do it. My main issue with this kind of base apologism is that it doesn’t take aesthetics into account.

There’s a difference between ferociousness and plain bad aesthetics. You have bad taste, that is a truth, and I’m sorry to say but it is. As an artist, I know better, and I’m very familiar with what makes for bad art. The charr constitute bad art — in their anatomy especially, which has always been appalling. If any such creature actually existed, the posture and anatomy the charr have would leave them doubled over in pain.

So yes, this is either apologism or simply pure obliviousness.

I feel that Skyrim had this problem, too. It was appealing to a minority of people who were vehement in insisting that certain elements of the game be grotesque, even though they have no interest in playing them. What happened is that we ended up with an aesthetically bad werewolf in Skyrim that didn’t look dangerous at all, it looked like a grotesque mockery, it was a laughable pantomime creature rather than a bulky, dangerous werewolf.

See the comparison here with a mod and hopefully you’ll understand.

I bet you really don’t even play beast races commonly, but you’re insisting on grotesque things because that’s what you want to see, that’s your poor taste. But what you have to think of is the people who want to play beast races. Who want to actually look good. We don’t all want to look like pantomime mockeries, we don’t want to represent poor aesthetics, we don’t want armour with crazy clipping.

You can just look around the threads on these forums past and present. There have been countless threads complaining about the anatomy, proportions, posture, aesthetics, and armour of the charr. It’s all wrong.

Everquest Next gets it right.

Technology

Yeah, technology that exists only in a few spots, an anachronism in a fantasy world. Where are their roads? Where’s their infrastructure? Where’s all this industry outside of the Black Citadel? Where, pray tell, is all of this technology? Where, outside of the Black Citadel, are the cars? Where are the trains? Where’s anything that even hints at the charr being advanced. In only a few spots do we even see any hints that they’ve come beyond their tribal stage seen in Guild Wars 1.

The representation of charr technology in the world is a joke. Example? Here’s a piece of concept art by their lead concept artist, Daniel Dociu. That looks amazing! That suggests that the charr will have helicopters, but we only see one of them in a prototype stage before the end of the game. And the in-game model for it is atrocious. It’s just bad art, it’s grotesque in really unappealing ways, it’s like someone really wanted to demean the charr as a species as much as they could.

Why don’t people play charr, ArenaNet? Look to your own art, design, and writing for the answer.

So, yes, the ‘technology’ is a joke. I’d rather the race not be technological at all, rather than being a kitten -take of technological advancement. It’s worse than the Goblins in WoW, and I never thought I’d ever have to say that about anything. Nothing should be worse than WoW.

So yes, it’s just bad art, through and through. I’m sick of seeing people being apologists about this. If we’re mindless sycophants, witless yes-men, and we just bend over to take it up the rear without ever raising a complaint, then ArenaNet will never bother fixing anything. So I’m going to continue complaining and advertising Everquest Next as an alternative.

They could fix things. That’s up to them. But as it is now I’m appalled by the state of the charr. People should have more self-respect. If this is a product you paid for with the intent of playing a charr, you should feel disgusted, that’s your right, as it is mine.

You are an artist so you know what bad art is? I would blow my nose on the Mona Lisa but the works of H.R. Giger are awesome in my opinion. Art is subjective. Have fun in EverQuest.

Banewrath.5107:

Zacchary.6183:

Banewrath.5107:

Zacchary.6183:

What in blue blazes makes you think arenanet is going to change the whole game just so arenanet could make mounts for a minority.

I`m curious of what exactly would have to change if mounts were added.

I am sure if you actually read every post ever made that disagreed with you, you’de find out. However, don’t expect me to list them for you.

I`ve discussed back and fourth with a lot of people on this issue. Forgive me if I don`t remember who said what all the time, I don`t really keep track of names. What I do remember though is that for every complaint people made, I offered solutions to what could be a problem for some people. But there was nothing in the solutions about the game having to change or anything needing to be rebalanced because of it. All a mount is really is just a summonable speed signet with an animal attached to it. I don`t see arenanet having to rebalance or change the game for the mounts anymore then they would have to for the signets already in game. There are really only a few things that need to be done to them to even them out. And it`s really only these two things with one option. There really isn`t any reason to change anything else.

1 Make mounts only summonable out of combat

2 Make mounts get speed penalties for going in combat and let cripple and slow effects apply to the mount.

3 Make a hidemount option for the people that complain they don`t want to see them.

So here goes again. Your hide mount option – if the mount gives a speed bonus ( I’ve seen you argue with and without) I will feel compelled to use it. I have to use it because of the speed bonus without seeing it but will still have to mount/dismount while gathering. Do you see where I’m going with this? I doubt it because you say any argument that proves that mounts aren’t needed/wanted don’t matter.

Eviscera.9703:

If you don’t like the wings, don’t use them. It’s simple as that.

I still have to look at that ugly drek on the people around me.

Wushuspinner.5689:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

Wushuspinner.5689:

Solstice.1097:

Devon did state he will be on NSP and will be getting the meta achievement.

However it is suspect whether NSP will capture SMC 5 times in the entire season, let alone a single player present all 5 times.

Well, you were way off with this comment huh.. Sm taken so many time first week i lost count

That’s because all of the pve achievement hunters allowed Sm to get flipped and sabotaged defense on purpose.

your point is??? That it wouldnt have happened if these achievement hunters didnt go hunting achievements? Who cares? The point is that he was suspect that NSP would never get it. and you need to file some made up reason for why you couldnt stop it. ha ha ha.. The only point is it happened and there isnt a need for NSP to have SM again. But we will get it again for sure…

I don’t get why your so upset. Why I couldn’t stop what? Sm flipping? I could care less about Sm but I watched all sides taking it then abandoning or hiding inside all last week. Now that every one has their achievments we can go back to business as usual. As for taking it again – yes we will.

Omne.4603:

Given that it changes nothing WvW I don’t even know why this is a post. Forums are slowly just turning into a sewer. No doubt this thread pointless as it is will continue to drag on. GW2 forums- A place where people of all types come to discuss kitten that truly does not matter. inb4 emotional response.

Given that you are a some one on my server that I respect I will keep it short. I watched last week while mostly PvE players let towers fall so they could try to hold Sm. When it got attacked they decided to try to hide on the third floor so they could flip it back and failed. I have been in a havok group and gotten the ogres just so 1/2 of them could die to Npc’s. PvE content in WvW does matter in my opinion. I do agree that the forums are a sewer though.

Obsidian.1328:

^

Well, the solution we would like is zero PvE events in W3.

I’m guessing that’s not an option though. :/

I would prefer no PvE in WvW but some people actually want it there (don’t ask me why). I also agree with Ricky on the points he made in the post above. The point is to not have black and white thinking. Every one wants something a little different and my guess is that A-net is trying their best to please every one as best they can. Personally I’m really disappointed in the direction that WvW has been taking but there isn’t much that the player base can do unless our arguments are respectful and well thought out. Btw it is REALLY hard for me to maintain composure but if I can do it I’m sure most of the people on the forums can do the same.

Trolling or don’t know any better – I can’t tell.

Sounds like some one has never set foot in WvW, joined a guild or gone to the zerg farming zones.

Really – going through your post history I didn’t find any solutions to pve events in wvw.

Ricky.4706:

choose your battles wisely, they want silence. No amount of eloquence in the world can reach a person that doesn’t care about what you have to say and would rather you shut up and pay …err play.

It’s that sort of negativity that isn’t helping get what we want implemented. How about a solution to the problem instead of just talking trash. I don’t like the way things are going either but just raging against the devs isn’t going to help any thing.

Wushuspinner.5689:

Solstice.1097:

Devon did state he will be on NSP and will be getting the meta achievement.

However it is suspect whether NSP will capture SMC 5 times in the entire season, let alone a single player present all 5 times.

Well, you were way off with this comment huh.. Sm taken so many time first week i lost count

That’s because all of the pve achievement hunters allowed Sm to get flipped and sabotaged defense on purpose.

Probably got deleted because of so many angry post that didn’t really contribute to a solution. I have watched achievements and pve events cause a division on my server (NSP) in match ups that are already stomp fest. The best I can hope for at this point is that the developers learn from this the same way they learned from living story when it first came out and improve the implementation.

Do what I do when I want hard mode – take off pieces of armor and trinkets depending on the level of the zone. You won’t get better loot but it ends up making you a better player.

The new map that doesn’t effect ppt might just be the answer to the dueling/gvg problem if done right

Akeem.3271:

uknortherner.2670:

There’s already been over forty threads on the tedious subject of mounts and player houses. GW2 does not “need” mounts in any shape or form. Waypoints exist for a reason.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Think-Mounts-outside-the-box/first

you say we don’t need mounts you don’t needs mounts I do the world is big as hell it would be nice to have a mount to ride with some more speed even if I got to pay for it I think if people want mounts they should have them, no one is saying take away the way points just if I want to ride out on my hard earned mount i should be able to i don’t understand why people like you don’t feel like having the option to ride a mount or use way points should be there it should be up to the player on how they want to explore the world and it give more reason to play the game to show off ffff skins and backpacks that gets weak after a 1yr of playing the game…

Maybe if you took the time to read through the other 40+ threads on mounts you would see all of the reasons people want/don’t want mounts. I personally hate mounts in every other game I’ve played for a variety of different reasons. Befraggle mounts the
developer time could be better spent somewhere else.

ptitminou.6489:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

1. I have no skill lag because I didn’t jump on the band wagon yet you want to punish us by lowering the population – no thanks.

2. Nothing is wrong with arrow carts if you learn how to work around them.

3. Agree

4. I would love to be able to respec even if it cost me some jangle.

5. No problem with laurels.

6. I don’t see how adding rewards (that pve players will flock to) makes wvw any more meaningful.

7. Agree

8. Just like arrow carts and thieves there are strategies to make sure this doesn’t happen. I will admit that it’s annoying till you figure it out.

9. Inspect gear-nty, the rest of it I could live with if I really had too

10. This is actually pretty funny. Without ranged aoe your zerg would have to deal with enemies right up on the wall or not able to close a choke point without siege. The day I’m just a loot bag for the enemy team I’ll quit but right now I get some pretty long kill streaks.

1) I’m in bronze tier (Sorrow’s Furnace) and have yet to enjoy 1 night free of skill lag this week.

2) What is wrong with arrow-carts is that their mechanics can be exploited. If it was fair for everyone, I wouldn’t mind but seeing ANet not fixing the exploit probably means they “don’t have the technology” to do that yet. So removing them is the best way to fix a bad implementation. In game, go on an arrow cart, put your game in windowed mode, then resize it so its full screen width but only 1/3 of the screen in height. You’ll see. I know that generally, a blob is able to live through them if they have enough guardians, the issue is that the exploit that seems unfixable.

5) Laurels only hurt alts, making WvW unappealing to alt-a-holics again hurting the population. That is the problem.

6) If a guild claims a keep, they can make it THEIRS. For a lot of people that is important, but at the moment there is no incentive to do that. It would be meaningful to them to keep their claim. PvE players that flock to WvW and are reigned in by the WvW players quick enough start liking it, till they hit the laurelgate.

8) The idea is that if the player can’t do it, the NPC shouldn’t be able to either. I would also be fine with removing the downed state DR. Just not have 2 standards. Am I a hero or a turd?

9) It’s important to know what you are running with as a leader. I am not asking for the commander to kick people from WvW, only so they know what they have.

10) Range aoe is what a necro brings, try a staff. CC is more important than damage in zerg-play, everyone knows that once they drop their aoe, the back-row is rally bait.

1. Silver (NSP) no skill lag

2. Don’t know what sort of armor you are wearing but multiple arrow carts aren’t a problem for me.

5. I agree about the time gating in regards to alts but I don’t see the devs changing it.

6. I run with a 3 man guild and we buff towers every now and then – It would be nice to be rewarded for using our hard earned cash for upgrades and influence for buffs.

8. When you learn to work around it it is almost a non issue.

9. I believe it is more about group composition.

10. Proud grenadier here – if I stay to the back cowering then I deserve to die. You must not see the nades flying over your head softening up the enemy front with conditions. It’s important to know exactly where to stand no matter what class you play.

1. I have no skill lag because I didn’t jump on the band wagon yet you want to punish us by lowering the population – no thanks.

2. Nothing is wrong with arrow carts if you learn how to work around them.

3. Agree

4. I would love to be able to respec even if it cost me some jangle.

5. No problem with laurels.

6. I don’t see how adding rewards (that pve players will flock to) makes wvw any more meaningful.

7. Agree

8. Just like arrow carts and thieves there are strategies to make sure this doesn’t happen. I will admit that it’s annoying till you figure it out.

9. Inspect gear-nty, the rest of it I could live with if I really had too

10. This is actually pretty funny. Without ranged aoe your zerg would have to deal with enemies right up on the wall or not able to close a choke point without siege. The day I’m just a loot bag for the enemy team I’ll quit but right now I get some pretty long kill streaks.

The people that think that others are jealous of their legendary weapons or that if something like the OP said was implemented they would need a refund makes me laugh. Your ego needs for other people to see your over the top graphics and footfalls? Other players opinions matter that much to you? Give me the option to shut it off or at least a slider to tone it down.

Can’t believe that I fell for such obvious trolling.

Verdelet Arconia.6987:

Rejoice WVW players! Because it only takes less than 3 days for the season 1 wvw achivements to be completed

1 less achievement hunter every 3 days to help ease up the queue!!!

Got my new title and season 1 key using a ranger in less than 3 days. I’m not even interested in wvw haha! Thank you Crystal Desert players! and the invaders from IOJ and NSP for making it easy for me to get this over and done with.

You aren’t interested in wvw so I’m sure you are one of the players that cares about the achievements instead of the good of your server. Doing some of those achievements at the wrong time can hurt your server so I hope this helps prove to the dev’s that these AP additions will end up hurting the game mode in the long run. Have fun in PvE.

Your idea is terrible on so many levels it amazes me that after you typed it out you would defend it. Let’s just go with the fact that not all players are mindless zerglings that follow a commander let alone giving the power to kick me to someone just because they came up with 100g to blow on a tag. NO!

I already did in at least one of the mount threads this week. Your lust for mounts has blinded you.

Banewrath.5107:

SoPP.7034:

Banewrath.5107:

Zergs already move with about half a dozen people cast swiftness circles and shouts. this really isn`t going to make the difference you think it would since you can`t attack while mounted.

It would reinforce keep battles even quicker.

Before the threads were merged I had laid out examples of what they could do with mounts that wouldn`t interfere with anything else in the game. So they really wouldn`t be any different then a player casting swiftness or a speed signet on themselves. Browse through the post on page 5 oh the thread and it will become clearer.

I would argue with you but you would just brush aside any valid arguments because you want mounts SOOOOOOO bad for some reason.

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Everyone who is against the idea should get out of here and everyone who likes it should keep talking.
Either way, arguing about it is pointless, it will keep this thread up forever and both sides will never see eye to eye anyway.

So basically what you want is only one side of the discussion? That’s my problem with all of the pro mount people. If you don’t agree with a valid argument you gloss it over or just say that it isn’t really important. Opinions of all of the player base are valid even if some are outright silly.