1 – ease of entry for competition (both direct and indirect substitution)
2 – perfect distribution of information
3 – high elasticity of demand for any one product
4 – perfect liberty to bring goods to market (in the real world, when sugar gets too high, companies can sub in corn syrup. Not in any MMO i’ve seen)
1. MMOs are fantastic for this, especially GW2. There is nothing I can think of in the game that players can’t decide to enter into the market for because everything in the game you can just go get, there’s no stopping you.
2. There is imperfect information, but there is significantly less imperfect information than the real world. There is also less market failures associated with imperfect information because of homogeneous goods. Homogeneous goods are one really cool thing about virtual economies.
3. This isn’t unique to MMOs or the real world, neither are the actions associated with it. It’s possible I’m missing the point on this one.
4. For this I would argue the opposite. MMOs are notorious for substitute goods. Especially when it comes to stats, I can change rarity, type, order of stats in a myriad of combinations with less than a 1% change in my total effectiveness. Switching to corn syrup causes significantly more than a 1% change in a product.
Ok i will admit from the start i am probably missing half the inforamtion in this, my skills dont involve economics or stock market trading. I just want to play a game i like.
1. Every thing you cant just go get, for example two days playing way more than the wife would like, over the weekend 0 passion flowers 2 karka shells. What ever the cause the availability of some items for some people is restricted.
If i read the statement another way and you mean John that “trading” in the market is open for all then yes it is however though it would appear from the many posts of people doing well there is considerable profit to be made by skilled trading that redistibution of wealth from the general population to a skilled few may mean the market is working on a strictly economic model but it is perhaps not a desired outcome on a political perspective.
4. Yes i can use a green sword or a hammer that lookes like dog dodo on a stick and still hit zombies with it so yes substitution is freely available. If this was an economy in a text book sure fine its working. Real life i acept i have a phone one generation old because i dont want to spend $1000 every six months and that is a working economy and choice.
Problem is this is a game, i dont want almost good enough, i want xxx sword not yyy which is almost good enough i want wings on my sylvari ele not a trench coat that does the same thing. The market and TP may form a perfect text book working economy but the role of both is to make the players happy and it would appear from a small random totaly unrepresentitive sample that it is failing in this.
Did the same because to be honest i thought who would be crazy enough to buy stuff that would surely flag your account but your right. Even complete legendaries for sale, ok i take thier claims with a bucket of salt but they claimed to have sold multiple legendaries of some types.
It seems crazy
Player: here my credit card details
Happygoluckrabitdragongold company: Here is your Dusk
Gm Chuthulu: Heres your ban you $1000 worth of pixels will now be deleted.
People are speculating that legendary dyes will come out.
This sounds unlikely. Even if it were reasonable to speculate on legendary dyes, hoarding up U. dyes aren’t the way to go about capitalizing on it.
kind of like hoarding t6 mats for both a bot ban, and an eventual increase in price when precursor prices fall?
Looks like that is spreading to the t5 mats as well.
Sorry Gewn but lets face it Chuck is getting on a bit and Jean Claude refuses to take orders from anyone speaking english.
I hear SOR is getting Marco Pierre White and Gordon Ramsay not only are they scarier we will now have better cookies then TC
Yes, but he’ll constantly call you donkeys and throw things at you.
Gordon Ramsay huh? By halfway through the show (I mean week, yeah….) you should all be either crying or cussing and talking about quitting. If you make it through though, you’ll be guaranteed a 5 star rating and millions of dollars in royalties. My advice would be to scrub all your armors and weapons thoroughly before he arrives and get rid of the microwave and frozen packages of skrittburgers.
All part of the plan, were practicing shouting in unison “Yes Chef it was the red team:”
Were keeping the Skritt, its the plan to fund siege equipment, take some thing no one in thier right mind would eat, smother it in garlic, charge a fortune and call it cuisine watch the money roll in
GWEN here for a new update for us TC folks
Just recieved word that will be expecting some new arrivals from area guilds an locations abound. These are in no paticular order but have come to buffer our numbers so let me introduce our new members.
5. Chuck norris – (this being our ace in the hole , will be reclaiming EB on his own .nuff said.)
6.Jean cluade Van kitten – (he’s just a Hole , but hey we don’t refuse extra hands on deck).
That is all for now
FOR THE TOAST
Sorry Gewn but lets face it Chuck is getting on a bit and Jean Claude refuses to take orders from anyone speaking english.
I hear SOR is getting Marco Pierre White and Gordon Ramsay not only are they scarier we will now have better cookies then TC
Xavori.3768:]Rangers are OP because 20,000 point AoE’s from 1500 away is a great way to ruin a bunch of people’s day. Or because they throw traps at people. Or because while you’re chasing the ranger in circles, his pet kitty is smapping you upside the head for 5k+ a shot.
Edit for accuracy: Rangers are OP because of one 200point AoE that if your awake you can walk out of. Or because they throw traps at person (they arent big enough to hit people ). Or because while you’re chasing the ranger in circles, his pet kitty is running 20feet behind you because it cant attack a moving target.
45 minutes to an hour per zone – hearts, vistas, POIs, WPs. Not likely unless you have certain “special” abilities.
Not likely unless you have certain “special” abilities
Translates to: “Not likely, unless you’re a Warrior” lol
I would like to see anyone warrior or not do Malchors Leap in 45 minutes, finished it last night, the GF comment after listening to me curse the bizare placement of vistas and the get past three veterans with and agro range that reaches the next zone, POI’s
Why do you play that game to relax?
Easy they tend to happen at least once a night just before the 20TCers finaly render
My final words; What zerg?
Colin did state during an interview last week that some of the first culling changes will be rolling out in this patch. I’m more than eager to see just how big a change we’ll be seeing.
I’m still dreaming of one day watching an opposing army spill over a hill and charge the keep I am busy defending.
It might not be pretty
Havent seen a goblin but i have had a Skritt do the same thing strange how 5 minutes ago i would have been cautious about runnging through that room full of mobs now its that little kitten is getting away with my loot CHARGE.
they are fast and only caught him because i had cripples and some one else ran past and helped beat him up.
your up to 30 g
Why the wow hostility? Because people who played gw1 and fell in love with the manifesto of GW2 see a flood of bored wow players joining the game then trying to turn it into what they left wow has this wow had that fine play wow.
Gw2 is a different game which had a different philosophy.
What they fear is vocal group demanding change of the game in directions they dont like by a group of people that will then say its just a wow clone and leave for the next game of the month, fear tends to bring out the worst in people.
Sees quaggan back packs.
immediately goes and converts gold to gems.
Your not the only one thinking that from looking at the excahnge rate
Like so many questions statements on builds we are missing WHEN, pve,pvp,w3 dungeons?
Pve i love sword dagger does it do .005% more or less damage than another build who gives a kitten its just fun.
Yes if im running a group i swap out for horn or if im going to be knee deep in mobs i go torch.
If your enjoying your self ( and your not killing everyone in the group )your playing it right
Thanks Male.
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Playing Asura golf with a hammer guardian, it so helps the chuckle factor that the key for the action is four
I forget who created the build (sorry) but the death blossom build where all the endurance enhancements allow you to string 5 together
Sword dagger ranger with a high crit setup
The latest D/D ele in wvw and with applogies to Auesis and the Iron Maiden fans the only song for a d/d ele is from Fun.’s we are young.
So let’s set the world on fire
We can burn brighter than the sun
So if by the time the bar closes
And you feel like falling down
I’ll carry you home tonight
So how are people getting there with an empty space?
Do they run with less than a full group up to the final boss or get there and vote kick some one because they know they can get 15g extra for the run by booting then and inviting someone else?
It baffles me how people would opt to cry nerf over very situational utility spells instead of being kitten about fotm being largely projectile based. I think the logical things to do are to be happy about guardians while staying hopeful anet spices mechanics up with future fractal releases.
OMG Guardians help people NERF THEM
The only reason i can think is people think guardians are getting the spots in fractal groups they should be so they think if guardians lose their usefull ability they will spend less time LFG
Lets face it Guardians cant run, cant hide , cant dps, tag fewer mobs get less loot and spend half their time saving other peoples kittens.
Fine nerf the projectile protection ability so it ONLY affects the Guardian let the whiners bleed and die.
I hope that means they eventually plan to make dungeons scale like fractals, otherwise, yes, high level fractals will be better for random drops… which will leave us in nearly the same place that we are now.
And if they do will we have people spaming LFG AC lvl 15?
People scattered across different levels in different dungeons and no one getting anywhere.
What needs to happen which i dont see happening because the cries of rage would melt the forum is a reduction in the rewards from fractals. When one small component of the game is the only place to get rewards you cant lift the other 95% of the game to the same level with out breaking the economy.
If an hour of fractals gave you a few greens and blues and two stacks of porous bones how many would run them?
Current player most days *
*subject to change with out notice
Depends on how many tokens you get a day.
If you get 1 token a day you may as well just hit the stores for your next MMO now and not bother.
I guess that is some thing for discussion but 1 a day 20 for a monthly and being able to say Ok 10 months from now i will have my precourser i can plan out all the other bits and have a goal.
Rather than 10 months from now i will have saved 400g and my precourser is now 1000g to buy and im further behind than when i started.
Here’s a better score update with eye candy!
Whats with the human fetish here, come one lets see some sylvari score updaters.
Wo Ho Honey show us some bark
Linking two threads so to speak, was following the precourser price thread in the BLT forum and thinking about this one as well.
Is all the work being done to remove botters and gold sellers from the game just undermined by people who go the pay to win route ( note some not all i dont have on my flame kittenant undies )
What else is there really to buy in game apart from seasonal skins or a few gold to craft up an alt.
Most precoursers are 500g+ now, well except for disco stu’s, a legendary 4 times that,are we caught in a cycle where Anet wants us to buy gems to finace our legedary drive, wants to nerf any way of gaining more than a copper and an old bone out of pve to kill off the bots and traps the player in the middle?
Account bound legendaries precoursers for sale on an NPC for 500 account bound daily tokens the bottom falls out of the gold selling market no need for DR, play the way you like OMG its starting to sound like GW2
… . And don’t get me started on the Mace!
Most of the Legendaries need to be done over, and done right.
What dont you like about it?
Looking at the scores minimised thinking what happening por ole blues getting stomped wondering what went wrong did the SOR server crash. then zoomed..
WTK were green when did this happen why wasnt i told ….i gota stop taking time off.
Time and a half working a weekend is simply not compesation for missing out on so much WvW
to the PRO guys.
laughing and dancing on people is usually reserved for those who do well.
3 times now i have PUNKED a PRO guy and been killed by his/her 300000 friends.
Always the person that was powned laughs and dances after being revived by their buddies.
Do you know how kitten you look laughing at the guy who just kitten you.
In the future, save those emotes for when you do well. like if 4 guys jump you and you kick all 4 of their kitten laugh away tea bag em have fun.
I hope this helps
I would have thought laughing and dancing on people were reserved for people with no idea of etiquette
Etiquette: In ( 2414-2375 BC) Ptahhotep, wrote The Maxims of Ptahhotep. The Maxims are conformist precepts extolling such civil virtues as truthfulness, self-control and kindness towards one’s fellow beings
There are two ways you beat some one in WvW either
A: A good fair fight, in which case the person defeated deserves respect for their skill not childish behavior.
B: Zerged like a Kmart shop assistant at a black friday sale, in which case they were just unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time so dancing on them just makes you look like a jerk.
Why is it called Celestial?
ce·les·tial
/s??lesCH?l/Adjective
1.Positioned in or relating to the sky, or outer space as observed in astronomy.
2.Belonging or relating to heaven.
With the rarity and the flippers god knows who can afford it.
Whats wrong with undead, after all they are just another form of meat. Its not like your raising undead plants. Live fleshlings dead fleshlings they all look alike just seems at least in Orr the dead ones move faster.
The Pale Tree burns her children who wander astray?
My friends, you have a perverse vision of your mother tree.
Nah seems pretty normal,
" you do this to your mother after i carry you for 9 month and the pain 2 days in labor i was and what do i get, you stab me in the heart i should go away and die this is the respect my children give me"
The guilt the guilt it burns Ok mom ill do my homework.
On topic first quest i got to dress as a nightmare court it was like ok i look so cool where do i join up
Anyone who feels “special” with a legendary in their current state needs to ask sane people what they think.
Whenever I see a legendary in gw2, i think “gold buyer”, whereas, even in the dark regions of WoW, at least someone with a legendary has to have:
A – a supportive guild
B – the capacity to take their tongue off a frozen flagpole while in combat
C – experience in most of endgameI look with disdain on people who have legendaries in this game because it involves zero skill, and either insanely good luck (of getting one of the “lucky” accounts with anti-dr) or a fat wallet.
Sadly right Legendary wepons are no longer a badge of achievment.
Sure there are people out ther that worked hard to get thiers but when you can get the ultimate achievment in game buy droping your credit card down it becomes about as Legendary as a fluffy hat in maple story
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Sadly because he keeps running the same event tequatel has run up against the DR dissapointed by the drops, the problems with players corpses dissapering before he can loot them and the clipping problems during his fights meaning he gets back stabbed before he can breath on people, tequatel it apears is now using under map botting
Have to admit first did it not because i like JP but wanted the bow from the Karma guy, I dont normally do Jp’s loved it so much i logged over to an alt to do it again.
Tough enough to be a chalenge ( at least to JP newbs like me) but no jump at 15.6 degrees 2.8 meters or miss and have to start again bits.
Main is a ranger so pop a torch and black room is a lot easier.
Hey all, was just wondering if anyone else has ran across the black cat that sits up on a near un-reachable platform above the Western Divinity Dam, It’s just totally static and don’t know what it dose. Anyone know why it’s there.
Does it look anything like this?
If it does its there to take over the world.
J) does not use “combat mode” because it actually makes the game more difficult? I run a widow keyboard and corsair m90 mouse and spent about 8 hours tweaking my keybindings. I never have any issues with control, have seen combat mode and understands that it would make me worse, and, by the way, I speed run jumping puzzles, which I define as “holding run 95% of the way through”. I also like the way ground targeting works for a variety of reasons I won’t go into now.
I realize this may be controversial and a lot of beginners might disagree with me. However, I’m an old competitive gamer who’s spent his entire life playing games like this—all the way back to Cosmic Encounter. To give you an idea of how much I like ranger in GW2, I have 1000 hours on my ranger and haven’t even leveled another class passed 60. I am running ~20 fractals and completed my monthly dubs slayings before the first week of the month was up.
Don’t sit here and tell me rangers need this or that. You guys need to quit wasting your time with combat mode and actually get good hardware and set up keybindings. Stop going on here and trying to ruin this class for everyone that likes it. And I don’t want rangers to be able to equip staff.
Grats for being a master ranger im sure there are equivilents of other classes as well who make their class shine despite the flaws.
Just because some people can play Tchaikovsky’s Piano Concerto No.1 flawlessly doesnt mean there isnt a place for chopstixs
If a class is balanced you shouldnt have to spend 8 hours tweaking controls to be able to do well at it. If it takes god mode to make the ranger shine then yes it is broken.
Ok a lot of people have not tried hard enough before they complain but an average player should be able to play the game on an average rig and obtain a resonable standard of sucess in game.
Saying your the Lim Yo-Hwan of GW2 rangers there fore nothing need changing because you have perfected the class makes your post come across as a well written and polite version of LTP noobs
Man, we’re losing people left and right. I live in the EST timezone and during my 6PM-10PM period SBI is outmanned in every single map…
Nah, we’re fine…
Picture of the week goes to Maladon for his photo titled “I’ve got this guys, don’t worry”
That’s one defiant Asura. Maladon, the fact that the Asura is staring them down vs hightailing it sells this picture.
Asura are OP nerf them
No DR No loot restriction in open world talks, no magic find discussions, why did they bother?
If they aren’t going to fix whats needed why will anyone play, as stated above new games are going free to play with less issues and bugs why would anyone want to stay here with important issues not getting looked at..
Nerfing AoEs will be very silly they affect all classes including the insanely weak ones, why will anyone play the game when their classes no longer perform viably..
I’m in total agreement with this, honestly… Arguably one of the biggest issues presented on the forums (open world loot/DR) got zero response from the development team. Bravo. Glad to see ANet took the whole improved communication seriously- by repeating things that had already been announced, and giving out virtually no new information, other than to say “we’re nerfing the KITTEN out of AoE”.
Well played. I would like to thank the Development staff for their time, and for confirming that I continue to have no reason to log into the game.
To be honest i am getting confused. all the talk about making open world more rewarding i though Anet had realised we are the salami in the sandwich between poor drops/DR and rapidly increasing cost of equipment. I was expecting news on how playing the game any where but a fractal would become viable. What i was not expecting was that Anets priority is to further reduce our ability to play the game. Orr with out aoe lol.
I read the forums is see what people are asking for then i see what is coming and think what the kitten we have thousands of posts on hundreds of topics and you “fix” some thing i dont even remeber people complaining about i was at first shocked then angry now just sad. The game i so loved when my floppy eared eng first ran out into metrica and went oohhh ahh seems to becoming a TP a cash shop a fashion parade in LA and little else.
Also… buff engineers. Mine is tired of being a second rate grenade monkey.
Seeing grenades are an aoe you can expect after the changes to be a third rate grenade monkey
So what effect will this have on arrow carts?
Sooo…with all the bugs, glitches, exploits, and myriad ways the improve the game…they decide to nerf aoe. I would have liked to have been at that meeting.
I would go further with so many things broken Anet priority as always is to find a new way to screw with their customers
Some one probably descided only farmers and bots use aoe so lets nerf them, cant have any one getting loot and enjoying the game if their not in a fractal can we.
Time perhaps to shelve the ele give up and join the zerg can any one suggest a good name for a warrior?
What you need is two types of dungeons
A: Where people run the dungeon
B: Where people stand in a circle and loot a chest that spawns every 30 minutes.
I refuse to believe he’s dead until I get to fight a Risen Tybalt. Which would be awesomecookies, and painful. Noone ever saw his corpse, right?
There are several dialog scenes in the game where Zaithan’s minions talk about your fallen comrade (in this case Tybalt).
There’s even one i believe with a undead commander in the open world that says it.
The mouth of Sauron said Frodo was dead
Luke thought his father was dead
Schrödinger thought the cat was dead
You never know, i will count Tybalt as an uncolapsed wave form till we have more evidence
And I can’t tell you how many times i’ve auto ran into a green camp, and can’t figure out why I can’t pick up supply or why the claimer is hitting me lol.
I’d love to see a BG/SOS/SOR thread one day soon. :P
Give us a few weeks to settle in, we’ll see what happens.
Scary thought SOR has been in the one spot for so long it will probably take me a week before i stop escorting blue yaks
SBI seems to be aiming to close the point gap. They may soon overtake TC.
Yes, they decided that enough is enough.
Probably because they could already hear the laughter from the GW2 community if they would loose to us, the role-playing-softies
Can i arrange to meet some of the role playing softies? The players i run into from TC seem to have all based their character on Gilles de Rais.
GW2 is clearly speciesist. Please give us dog tonic – I want to be the St Bernard I am in my heart.
Play a hairy norn …problem solved
Is it true chickens drop Dusk?
Being that I spend much of my time in WvW with my guild, there are many opportunities for talk and fun. But one of my characters, a huge, naked, tiger looking char always has more followers and just gets people talking. Even though I am the same person on both accounts, because one looks more fun to be around, (a naked char over a slim Sylvari, armor clad thief) everybody jokes around with one character over another. Anyone else experiencing this?
Simple reason, speaking as a tiny pale sylvari i love running with a large bright orange charr you simply exude the wonderfull essence of Target
My very first experience with duelling was when I was new in WoW and was taking my fresh level 5 out for some questing, when another level 5 came in and kept spamming duel requests for 15 minutes, whispering me and shouting at me in map chat “wanna duel?” “wanna duel?” “I’ll give you 5 gold if you win” etc etc.
And no matter how many times I asked him to gtfo, he didnt stop.It ruined me for open world duelling forever.
However, I did have fun having little duels in GW1 with my guildies in private matches in our GH, while the rest of the guild could watch us play and mock whoever lost. I would not mind seeing that again. But open world duelling where I can be spammed by any pre-teen with a godcomplex? No. Oh gods no.
Same thing here , rolled character got into game that shall not be named, worked out what movement keys were.
Duel…no
Duel me …no
Duel me you chicken…NO
Duel me…Kitten off
you swore im reporting you.
Logged off to play some thing
Look at the Mace.
The Mace!
It’s a friggin’ disco ball!
Nothing wrong with that, if it lit up and rotated maybe.
It is plenty wrong. Why should players that want to use maces be punished by a “joke” weapon while players who want to use greatswords get this really awesome, or dare I say, legendary-looking weapon?
The disco ball skin belongs in the Gem Store for teh lulz, not on a Legendary.
Yup my thought as i was nearing map completion on my guardian and thought hmm better look at what else i need. It was OMG the only people that would use that are an Asura with an afro or Disco Stu.
The next big event is the Wizard of Tyria event.
Starts with singing Asura lining a yellow brick path out of Lions Arch.
Its a three part event where you have to find Traherne a brain, find Logan Thackeray’s courage and get Caithe a date.
Seriously, they are terribly(!) annoying. Not difficult. That is A N N O Y I N G. After an hour of running around Orr, I have a headache. I understand that the developers were trying to achieve the effect of city “flooded” by undead. However, there too many of them. They are everywhere! And what … for they made them so fast?Had to fight with them and not run away? Would still have to, aniway. It’s ruin whole atmosphere. In addition, they are behind you faster than you hit them by charge. This is stupid.
I think i have a solution to the speed question,
Does seem some people get better badge drops than others certainly some classes more than others. As a ranger i suggest a change to help even this out.
As a corpse i am vital to your badge collection after all with out a ranger doing a dirt nap there is no badge for you.
I feel however my essential contribution is under valued a new system that would reward both the vertical and the horizontal would be equitable and help populate WvW with more than ele’s and invisible thieves