Guild Wars 2

LMAO op got 1’d to death several times by a mesmer to make him salty enough to make a post about it….. worst then getting ganked by ranger longbow.

back on topic: kitten YEAH This sounds amazing!!!! you got 2 options to choose from

Option 1: Remove ability to cancel skill 1 but force ALL classes to do their entire attack chain every push of skill 1.

Reasoning: In your rage filled huff and puff post you overlooked 1 major detail in terms of mesmer greatsword 1 – When skill 1 unless i cancel it Im forced to do the entire attack chain and get hit with an aftercast. All other classes have the choice of when they want ( to a certain timed extent) and IF they even want to do the 2nd or 3rd part of their attack chain without even having to cancel skills. Why should only the mesmer be punished for replicating exactly what the other classes do without them having to hit an extra key?

Or

Option 2: split the channeled 1 skill into a 3 part attack chain like the other classes – same reasoning as above.

Either way is a pretty good buff for me, but between the 2 Im heavily leaned for option 2. I play as proactive shatter mesmer

Pros
1. blind- powerful enough to stop a burst but weak enough not to warrant a cleanse if im carrying one ( who am i kidding what is this condi removal hack that other classes have?). While in stealth autoattacking but canceling before the 2nd tick is the best techinque to remove blind while keeping the upper hand for positioning, but if im too slow on the cancel or get skill lag im forced to do the 2nd tick and thus get revealed. Sure the skill lag will always potentially be there but at least i could maybe keep the upperhand after using decoy or mass invis for better postioning.

2. Mind games – Biggest part of playing a class is fooling others to dodge weaker skills only to get hit by the more damaging skills. As it is now when you see a purple beam you know that your pretty safe for 1.5 seconds since he can’t do anything ( assuming he isn’t canceling after 2nd tick) unless you were at range with low health, your not going to waste a dodge roll/block/or evade. When you see a berserker or mirror blade come out your most likely going to dodge the next cast is going to be the opposite vs ss. even if they cast ss youll have a 1.5 lead of regaining endurance. Breaking the auto chain up can help play more mind games like 2,4 or 2,1,4 or 2,1,1,4 could easily cause more mistakes

3. less channeled skills – A fetus can interrupt a channled skill in this game, occionally i play wvw where the perplex teefs are numerous. It sucks having the potential 10-13 stacks on confusion instantly because skill 1 is channeled.

Im pretty game for such changes

Lynne.8416:

sheesh, , there was no quit rage post, there is absolutely nothing in my post about quitting. I merely stated my opinion, which is the point of these threads. I prefer the old dailies compared to the new dailies. It’s really not a big deal either way to me. I play what I find enjoyable which, again, is what I stated in my post.

Well Im talking about the future rage quit. Youve stated the only thing you enjoy is pve- so when that no longer becomes enjoyable what will you do then?

The point of these threads is to complain which yeah in a way is sorta like an opinion. Sometimes they are valid but more often its just to whine. For example people whine for more content but when a piece of living story is dropped they complain they don’t want that.

Here your intetions to complain were pretty clear “What I do NOT enjoy is having to go out to a specific area and gather” but yet when you got called out on it suddenly as you’ve admitted “It’s really not a big deal either way to me”. Has it even occurred to you that once this month is over and winter dailies are removed that they can potientially factor in more daily achievements?

Zaoda.1653:

I haven’t been able to play how I want since day 1…

Same here from day 1 I wanted all players to instantly send me all their riches upon my login. I wanted to slaughter PVE peasants by the dozen on any map just to make them whine.

But yet here the complain is because the daily number went from 5 to 3, and you are rewarded for merely logining in.

You people have never known “the struggle” of playing how you want

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Lynne.8416:

I’m fine with the daily log in thing. I don’t mind doing events in whatever area Anet decides (I don’t like it, but will do it for achievement point), viewing vistas is fine too. What I do NOT enjoy is having to go out to a specific area and gather. I also am unable to complete the “world boss” because I’m not always able to play at that particular time. I PvE only so WvW, dungeons/fractal and PvP are out.

bad news bear – anet decided what you were gonna do prior to this update for dailies and monthies, now you just log in you get those rewards and if that wasnt easy enough already they don’t even reset on the turn of a new month!!!!

its only 3 actitives for 10 ap….on top of that you get extra rewards based on the activity. please complain more about how you dislike getting an extra free rare for completing w/e daily world boss. XD

It appears that the more they dumb down the game and make it incrediably easier it for no reason makes it hard for you o.0. so before you can make your rage quit posts….. can i haz your stuffs?

AdaephonDelat.3890:

It’s 55 laurels over the 28 days. But you do get fewer Mystic Coins which is 12 I believe.

^^^^ this and you do know you can purchase mystic coins off the trading post right?

You know the 235761 coins listed there……

Confirmed: lowering difficulty increases the number of salty tears.

Oh the new system makes you go somewhat out of your way to do a daily, tell me more how the previous system didn’t have you running out of your way for dailies * willy wonka face *

I bet you ONLY play gw2 for less than an hour a day and that you NEVER hop onto the eotm champ train Kappa

Fuzzy Slippers

bigger than 15

Errr if roaming is dead, all that is left is mass hordes of zombie players, yeah wvw very much dead.

Make an inappropriate character name and see what happens, for everything else there is mastercard.

lolol mmk, well just fyi devs have stated multiple times they aren’t going to remove wvw from map completion nor separate it.

Filaha.1678:

echo.2053:

Filaha.1678:

people would get to get their exploration without having to do something they don’t want to do

You do know you can just buy legendaries straight up off the tp and never have to do wvw ever…..right?

Where did I mention anything about legendaries?

why else would you care about map completion.

Filaha.1678:

people would get to get their exploration without having to do something they don’t want to do

You do know you can just buy legendaries straight up off the tp and never have to do wvw ever…..right?

Tachenon.5270:

Hi, I’d like to apply for the position of ‘Bad Idea Specialist’, and, if chosen, my first act as a Bad Idea Specialist will be to say that I think this ‘Forum Specialist’ idea is a very Bad Idea for reasons which should have been painfully obvious to whomsoever gave implementing it actual consideration (see also: Players’ Councils). Further, I’ll point to my own post which you are reading even now as evidence of why it’s a bad idea.

Alas, I know that whomsoever is in a position to naysay this bad idea will not naysay it based on this or any other evidence, regardless of how irrefragable such evidence may be, or it would never have been yaysaid, so to speak, in the first place; therefore, in protest, I hereby withdraw my application for the Bad Idea Specialist position.

Lol this is prolly the best idea that would be actually viable. Think of all the facepalming pain we would of been saved from had it been in place from the get go.

anet : hey we are thinking of releasing a rune where if interrupted gives you stacks of confusion with no cooldown.

bad idea specialist : no nope thats a bad idea

Anet: are you sure what if we..

bad idea specialist : no which letter do you not understand?

I foresee this being a flop like commanders who believe they are entitled to respect for having a tag. Also uh-oh mods better step up your game or your gonna get axed for xmas in exchange for people wholl do your job for free.

RoseofGilead.8907:

~snipped to stop page quotes~

You expect the internet to be mature, emphatic and sympathetic? LOL you must be new. Here is about as much as you’ll ever get from random players, if you, me, that guy over there were to disappear tomorrow, a tear would not be shed, sleep would not be lost. They would still play and have fun doing whatever without a second thought, welcome to life.

Why do you doubt it? Barely able to handle silly petty things said in a video game, what makes you think they’d be able to handle it real life where their isn’t a block function and you cant turn chat off? Or is that the sheltered imagination is influencing the mind into thinking they’d be tougher in real life even though they can’t handle what is being said here. Yeah your right there are people who get bolder and tougher when they are safe sheltered behind their keyboards, there’s a few in this thread.

You can beg anet for action all you want but that’s not going to stop future incidents. you’ll eventually move onto new games where anet has no control, what will you do then? time to put on your big boy pants and learn coping skills.

RoseofGilead.8907:

echo.2053:

mcgriddles.2416:

Am I not speaking English or something?

No your writing in English.

If you take something as minor as someone telling you you to kill yourself to heart ( which you should prolly being calling the hotline rather than here), then you would have been destroyed by my friend when I showed him this thread LOL was brutal but hilarious. Feel free to share how you feel about what he said.

*You’re, probably

And yes, we get it. You think using hostile and rough talk is fine. However, you don’t speak for every person, and some people don’t care for that kind of talk.

If you want to be a grammar commander you should know that you don’t start a sentence with and. ;-P

Well for starters Anet isn’t here to babysit you every time that you get your feelings hurt. They already have enough on their plate with spammers and speed hackers, that are still around, last thing they need to worry about is petty items when there are already multiple tools in place.

Dont want some pming you – block them

If you block someone, you will no longer see any messages they send through the following ways:

/say chat
/map chat
/whisper
/guild chat
/party chat
/team chat
/squad chat
In-game mail

Dont want to read map/team/say/emote chat – uncheck the box – interesting fact In all the time that Ive played I rarely had map/say chat checked, turns out you can still play the game SHOCKER :O

As I’ve already stated before verbal abuse is a grey area because of how people react. For example you’ve prolly referred to a random player as a pug thinking nothing of it, however there are players who find that as offensive name calling- guess what your guilty of verbal abuse. The trolls will have a field day instigating you to make snappy remarks to report verbal abuse if they were to do penalties on minor things like this.

Crimson Clouds.4853:

The problem is that people feel very brave sitting behind their keyboards because of the disconnect to humanity it allows (and thus a disconnect to morals and empathy).

You have that backwards, You feel disconnected from humanity because you’ve lived a sheltered life behind your keyboard never actually experienced the unforgiving hostile environment outside. Your more than welcome to believe this would be different if in real life but the reality of it is that it wouldn’t be any different. Time to “man up” ( ha that one wasn’t in the list).

mcgriddles.2416:

Am I not speaking English or something?

No your writing in English.

If you take something as minor as someone telling you you to kill yourself to heart ( which you should prolly being calling the hotline rather than here), then you would have been destroyed by my friend when I showed him this thread LOL was brutal but hilarious. Feel free to share how you feel about what he said.

….you dont have the capacity to click block and never have to talk to them again??? online prolly isnt for you

phoenix.3465:

echo.2053:

He also forgot " you should stay in pve then" and “welcome to the internet”. lol what do you want a perminant ban for insulting someone else? Where you want to admit it or not at some point youve been guilty oh the same crime.

No, but a day or two off to cool tempers would be appropriate and maybe then people would think twice before insulting others.
Also you assume a great deal without even knowing me.

The thing is this is a very gray area since its really depenedant on the person being insulted. It can range from thick skin people like me who you could me any and every name in the book while i sit there laughing because frankly sir, I just dont give a Van kitten to people like the op who get offended by being called a pver even when it wasn’t even directed at them.
Its also includes snappy remarks such as the the op’s remark

I’m convinced that they must be compensating for something.

why do I have to know you in order to know that at some point you insult someone else?

Ayakaru.6583:

I find this whole topic bullock when you have a dodge button. I have a 100% zerker, so nothing but the default armor/health and I rarely die because I have a dodge button. Practice using it, stay mobile and equip mobility enhancing skills.

That’s nice, but I was more talking about the new enemies being unforgiving if you make a mistake. I unfortunately do not have the reflexes of a teenage boy, sorry. Also no reason to be rude.[/quote]

Its quite common in online games to downplay someones age as a form of insult. Can you show your proof of that player being a teenager? if not please enjoy the next two days off.

well for starters since the rank change 20k per a level it isn’t even a challange to get to 60’s. As well as what pvper brags about about a silly rank when truth is you could of been carried the majority of the time. Why do I assume your a pver? if they were to make pve open world we hear the same kind of whining.

You reap what you sow, Life doesnt stop and start at your convience. If they are talking in map, turn off map, in say chat turn off say chat, if whisper block them. From exprience you should already know they get a kick out of getting you upset.

phoenix.3465:

mcgriddles.2416:

inb4 everyone tells me to “get over it” and to stop being a kitten & people telling me “don’t PvP then.” Can’t wait to hear those.

and don’t forget “get a thicker skin”, “it’s just smack-talk” and “it’s normal on the internet”. Some people are very fierce in defending their “right” to insult others. It is a very bad attitude in a team game imo.
And I agree with everything you said. I have made the same experiences. Nobody ever gets punished for insults or afk-ing.

He also forgot " you should stay in pve then" and “welcome to the internet”. lol what do you want a perminant ban for insulting someone else? Where you want to admit it or not at some point youve been guilty oh the same crime.

People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones

oscuro.9720:

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

I’m just here for the CnD off walls because I haven’t had much trouble with it in the past. But I was recently fighting a condition Thief near Stonemist Castle and the fight went on for nearly 5 minutes. Why? He couldn’t burst me down with conditions so he kept resetting the fight by CnDing off the outer walls. I eventually gave up and left because any time he was getting low he’d Shadow Refuge or spam CnD on the walls. Which I could clearly see him doing since he’d be visible for a split second when I saw him stab the wall at some random location before vanishing again.. Was the most irritating fight I’ve had in a long time.

Hello, I am Oscuro of Kaineng! I have played Condi thief for a very long time, and can offer some opinions from a dedicated thief player on this topic. Caltrops are not a condi thief’s main source of damage. If they are just dodging around you to kill you, move. They are wasting their endurance which is a primary source of sustain for all thieves. Secondly, walls are only CnDable when hit from the top and within a certain distance. If a thief is running around doing this, they are no threat, so you should wait until they come down from the wall. To answer this specific scenario, if a thief cannot burst you and is stealthing off of the walls, he is
A) Not very good because, unless you play diamond skin ele, I have never encountered a player I could not kill with Condi because of the speed of the burst repetition as well as the auto attack stacks bleed
B) not going to accomplish anything since he is in your tower/keep and can’t kill a solo person. Most people unable to hold a fight long enough to cause their opponent to heal and feel threatened cannot solo keeps/towers. If you fight a good Condi thief, you will know
Hope this helped!
Best Wishes,
Oscuro of Kaineng

You can stealth off the base of the wall, just the outside part you need to jump over the bulge, you can stealth off a gate, you can stealth off supplies…..your not just limited to the top of the wall. Obviously they aren’t a good player just like a speed or fly hacker bug abuse is still bug abuse. Anet patched it once only to rebreak it again.

You should figure out what it is that you find fun rather than because server a is beating b and c now. Chances are if your not finding wvw that fun because your server is getting swarmed by the other servers population then you prolly won’t enjoy being on the other end running around to swarm small groups of players. Imo Id rather being at a disadvantage even with the kittenty downstate system knowing i was gonna lose than to completely outnumber a small group of players.

Not saying there aren’t good players there, but transferring doesn’t suddenly make you a better player. For the longest time there was this notion that higher tiers are better than lower tiers, yet once they lose their population and coverage advantage where have they ended up? I can’t even begin to describe my laughter howls at the number of players who double dodge roll my spatial surges to get shatter bursted a sec later.

Sure youll get more player exp and world xp ranks if thats something that matters to you I guess. If your trying to impress others then its beyound meaningless, Ive watched a platinum champion get absoluetly destroyed repeatedly by a bronze soldier.

Store all ascended or legendary items in chest. Delete all characters. get a free transfer. speed relevel and requipt items. money/gold spent 0

For everything else theres mastercard

Pinkamena Diane Pie.8054:

Fed up? Let’s put it this way, this is my 3rd account!

I’ll let you guess what happened to the previous accounts on this forum.

LMAO you really spent more money just to be reignored? Thats too choice. Its like a when kid holds their breath thinking they are going to freak their mom out, but in reality theyll just pass out and automatically start breathing again. end result nothing changes.

its complete bogus now. it should be 500 gems for copper fed and 800 for silver fed. lesson learned here is to hold out on purchases for better deals. Its only a matter of time before " gold fed salavage-o-matic" comes out for 100 gems with bltk salavage kit stats

They wont, thatd actually require them to redesign armour. its easier for them to add fire or smoke to an already existing armour as they have done. Dont get me wrong ive been wanting more ice theme things too but we got pushed away from the money they made when people gamabled for fused weapons

oh geez lets get the clarifying stuff out of the way:

When were talking about item rarity we aren’t meaning whether its masterwork,rare, or exotic etc. When you roll an exotic you have the same amount of chance between all those items, Even though they have the same chance certain items will come up more often then others. example rolling a 6 sided die 6 times doesn’t mean your going to roll each number once for all 6 rolls.

Though ive mentioned this already when I mention “other peoples want” its not directed solely at looks. Sure some people want to be covered in expensive things while others don’t mind being in starter gear, HOWEVER your still forgetting something that affects both of those sides – monetary want. Take that player who is in bis gear thats transmuted with starter gear, if he was guarenteed a drop which item would he more likely want a Bonetti’s Rapier (9g) or Komalie’s Sacrificial Blade (94g)? He may not like or even want that item for himself but still he is more likey to choose the higher value item which is still a form of want is it not?

Lets be real there isn’t a difficult game mechanic part in this game, at best there is slight trouble with organizing people. Then again its the general public who if there wasa wall with a sign saying wet paint dont touch, theyd go touch the wall thinking the sign was lying. You really took that as if they added a few more gold to the reward of event that took a longer time to complete, then it would suddenly persuade players to do those events even though the item drop chance is the same? That made more sense versus have specific items only obtainable ( that aren’t account/player bound)through that event to raise the value of even doing that event? sorry players dont fail events because the gold reward for failing is more then completeing the event, they do it for more chances at loot ( you know that stuff they sell for gold). Items arent bound to a certain area, ex i got dusk from orr while guildy got the pre bow from a lvl 15 area cave, so naturally they are going to do the easy fast meathods.

Of course rng is about luck, what the heck do you guys think the word random even means? Sorry to breat your heart but as magnicicient as the story of king aruther is, itd be pretty lame if anyone could pull the sword out of the stone, we all cant be king aruthers. Oh a sidenote about rng complaints, notice how there aren’t any complaints when players get items of worth like " Man I got a dusk, rng sucks !!".

wow going into a tp price was about the worst thing you could do in this conversation. Your right I most likely wouldnt be able to bring up a post with a person complaining about having a hard time getting the venom when by all means it should have the same as the dusk. Why is this? most players ( note i didnt say all) don’t like underwater combat, players with legendaries like to show them but as anet removes places for underwater combat it makes it kinda of discouraging to make a weapon that youll rarely get to show. That is why the price is lower compared to the other precursosrs, but in comparison to the other exotic tridents the venom is the most valued. The chance to get it isnt different from any other precursor, I wonder if youd be singing the same tune if this was a thread of a player spending 1000’s of gold trying to get the venom if it still was valued at 75g. Cross item types aren’t really comparable due to other factors, example my main is a mesmer so your not gonna see me complaining about rifles and bows since i can’t actually use them. However in comparison with their own wepon types are they not all the most valued ( except dawn)?

You should of done your research before picking Bonetti’s Rapier and Komalie’s Sacrificial Blade lol. Prior to sept 9th both items were in realitively same price range, on sept 9th komalies blade shot from 10ish gold to 90ish gold in a single day. Its price is because of a well executed market control. If it hadnt been for that its price would of been the same as the rapier which you could predict by its price over the year its been in the game.

@khal yeah I had a feeling you were really meaning the account bound portion, but according to pandaman I need to be certified to be empathic to point that out. I agree tht this account bound on aquire thing is really dumb, sadly they have it to cover their own tails. :/

Pandaman.4758:

echo.2053:

So your saying I can’t go into someone else’s argument to try to " disprove" them with some claim to know what they are thinking? What exactly are you doing then with my argument then? Oh the irony.

… are you serious? What irony?

Can you telepathically tell me what I’m thinking? prolly not and well you aren’t trying to prove my argument. There fore you’d be going into someone’s argument trying to “disprove” them with a claim to know what they are thinking?

In the game everyone has access to the exact same activities, why can’t they all have access to the same rewards then? —- very simple my lad, you ONLY want that item because its rare and harder to obtain. If everyone had access to it then you wouldnt want it, Hence your here complaining about rng for this one item while 95% of the other game items are on the tp for a gold or less

That’s what you said, I have not put any words in your mouth or made any claims about what motivated you to say that, so you’re going to have to explain how a) you aren’t claiming to know what the OP is thinking, b) aren’t trying to claim the OP’s only complaining because they want a certain item, and c) concluded I’m being hypocritical.

It’ll be amusing to see the pretzel logic, if nothing else.[/quote]

I never actually responded to the OP, Khal Drogo and maddoctor are two different accounts as far as I know. I don’t know where you got that idea from since ascended items have never been able to be listed on the tp. Its rather amusing how your first response was that “it doesn’t apply to everyone” but now suddenly its directed at that one poster as though as i called him out specifically in each later response LOL.

first time even bothering to look and didnt even have to scroll down far:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Gambling-Wars-2/page/2#post4518734

“Running higher difficulty dungeons is hardly worth the effort, since running multiple easy mode ones will yield better rewards in the end " hmmm so what would make a the dungeon worth while to do? a high value or a low value item prolly a high value yeah. What is required for it to be oh high value is for it to be hard to obtain. Now go back to the post that i first responded too and youll see he wants 100% drop rate even if its for 1 member of a group, thats would not the only group doing that content. Over time that item value will drop until once again that dungeon wouldnt be worth the effort.

Ughh I am saying that people are complaining because they want a hard to get item. Please link a few threads where people are complaining about common items the like stinger, ugly stick etc being to hard to get. At best youll find threads complaining about loot being too low of value

Pandaman.4758:

On what planet do I need to have qualifications to point out common sense? It’s just simple fact that you can’t speak for everyone based on personal biases and anecdotal evidence, much less go into someone’s argument and try to “disprove” it with some claim that you know what they’re thinking.

So your saying I can’t go into someone else’s argument to try to " disprove" them with some claim to know what they are thinking? What exactly are you doing then with my argument then? Oh the irony.

Its a “simple fact” that you CAN NOT please everyone, the more you try the more you fail. So what do you do? You go with the majority – I don’t know about you but personally I’ve never seen a complaint of how hard it is to get the impaler and have seen complaints about the low value of loot which is caused by…..

maybe they need qualification for common sense, since you have to be qualified to kitten the motivations of gw2 players no?

Pandaman.4758:

echo.2053:

In the game everyone has access to the exact same activities, why can’t they all have access to the same rewards then? —- very simple my lad, you ONLY want that item because its rare and harder to obtain. If everyone had access to it then you wouldnt want it, Hence your here complaining about rng for this one item while 95% of the other game items are on the tp for a gold or less

Sorry, but you’re not exactly qualified to be asserting the motivations of other peoples’ desires – unless you’re a mutant telepath or something. I’m not saying rarity isn’t a factor in the decision making of some people, but it’s certainly not all people, and making that assumption in an attempt to discredit another person’s argument is poor form at best.

LOL please tell me about your qualification on assessing the motivations of gw2 players, sounds like you spent years taking that course in school. Rarity is sorta of a major driving force behind the entire game. I say “sorta” because I believe there isn’t enough rng in the game. Having high value items at the end of content encourages people to actually do that content….. oh wait I need your expertise in the motivations of gw2 players to define what a high value item is to a gw2 player, is it something easily obtained on regular occurrence or something that more difficult to obtain and has a rare occurrence? hmmm maybe some examples might help clarify that, on a regular basis you’ll see a players go completely out of their way to mine an ori node but for copper nodes even if players had to walk over them most wouldn’t bother. Prior to the champ update people rarely bothered with them because it wasn’t really worth the time/effort, after the update they became a sensation because of the items you could get ONLY BY THE BOXES THAT DROPPED FROM THEM BY CHANCE. At first those item prices were high but as time went on they got lower, must be because they got too hard to obtain huh (/sarcasm). Every day people fill teq’s map an 1+ hrs before it spawns for a chance at the loot it drops, if they were to switch the drops so it gave only a guaranteed white sword, how many people do you think would keep doing that event on a reg basis?

next rarity effects on appearance. Excluding all stats except solely the weapon, having a zerker sword with skin x doesnt make you more powerful than another zerker sword with skin y. No joe wants to look exactly like the mo next to him, which item would make him more unique, a common easy to get sword or a harder to get sword? sorry its kind of an unfair question, you need to be a “mutant telepath”

Lol sorry I seriously doubt there are players out there repeatedly throwing themselves at an rng generator for absolutely no gain whether it because they want it, to try to impress others or for profit – especially with 95% of the other items for less then 6 gold on the tp. But for lol I shall entertain your thought, I don’t care how valuable my car is nor do i want to impress others, therefore a brand new Ferrari should be made available to me for $300. I mean hey i put pants on 1 leg at a time like a rich guy would right?

lordkrall.7241:

One would of course question why people that quite clearly don’t like the game still hang around on these forums everyday instead of just moving on.

The forums provide more entertainment than the game wouldn’t you agree? Why else would you be here trying to argue or worrying about someone elses viewpoint when you could be playing the game instead?

maddoctor.2738:

kolompi.1287:

Nobody loses out on items due to RNG, we were never meant to have everything. Please stop being entitled and start practicing the idea that some things (most things) we cannot get (in life, in game, everywhere). You will feel more happy if you can actually say: i would like to have this but it may not be within reach and life does not end if i won’t get it.

Why? The whole reason for having RNG system is to force players to repeat content, so they keep playing the game. There is no other reason for an RNG system to be used in games. If you can “force” players to repeat content without using RNG then it’s a win-win.

My proposal, making all bosses drop loot (one item only) with 100% chance that is then distributed among the players that killed it, will “force” players to repeat content, but no player will have to rely on RNG.

Out of 20 players doing the same dungeon, at most you will get your item in 20 runs, and even if you use PUGs you WILL get the item, it will only take some effort. With the current RNG system with the really low chances you might never get somethings, why?

In Real Life, LUCK is not the limiting factor of not getting things we want. In the game everyone has access to the exact same activities, why can’t they all have access to the same rewards then?

You might want to define what you mean when you talk about players “killing the boss” or are you saying youd be absolutly thrilled to see a player leech to get the drop.

In the game everyone has access to the exact same activities, why can’t they all have access to the same rewards then? —- very simple my lad, you ONLY want that item because its rare and harder to obtain. If everyone had access to it then you wouldnt want it, Hence your here complaining about rng for this one item while 95% of the other game items are on the tp for a gold or less

Boneheart.3561:

Not a single ’I’m mad’ poster has given me even a copper of their stuff. They say they love the game, why don’t they give to the people that still play it.

C’mon, Guzzi. I could use some Ectoplasm, to Salvage into Dust.

Because your suppose to catch them prior to them quitting the game not afterward. Why would you reinstall and relog back into a game you no longer enjoy? It doesn’t really matter if he makes random people who still play the game happy or not if he isn’t gonna play the game anymore.

On a side note though if you give him a reason “worth” his time to relog in pretty sure youll be able to get that stuff

lol this is funny. You want to boycott a game where they already have your money and you don’t pay a monthly fee expecting that to somehow hurt them? They pay bills for servers, electricity and salaries, yet again they already have your money and you don’t pay a monthly fee. This is like when a kid holds their breath thinking that it hurts someone else.

If you don’t like how things are going don’t play, I haven’t played for several weeks now.

Devata.6589:

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That’s the whole point, because other games have released expansions in x time your now frustrated and running around stomping your feet because there hasn’t been an expansion for this game, like a kid who was told no. Once they convince you to buy and play the game they don’t have to do anything further.

An expansion isn’t a fix all solution as you guys seem to think. A new expansion would keep you busy for a few months at best then the current underlying problems leading you back to wanting new content. Loot being one of them. Yes you don’t need to have the most rare items, but 95% of the items in game are 6g or less, not even remotely a struggle to get. Once you do get these cheaper items then what do you do? Do a dungeon that doesn’t have unique reward or endlessly farm for gold for no reason since you already have the item you like best.

you act like there’s something wrong with them wanting to have a cash shop on the side. Have you seen the amount of outside sites that sell game items and currency for real money. If you were the developer youd be crazy not to go in cash shop when those sites are selling your items for $$$. Micro transactions are the future

Lastly I don’t just accept the way things are if i don’t enjoy them. Action speaks louder than words – I haven’t logged in since the week prior to last tourny, and even up to that point it was maybe 1-2 times every 2-3 weeks at best. This isn’t going to be the last mmo ever…..

oh wow who would of guessed you’d make a b2p expansion thread after that last one lol. Oh geez now there’s some kind of expansion schedule for mmos lol. If one comes it comes, if it doesn’t then it doesn’t. Sitting here ranting trying to put pressure on them to develop an expansion when one prolly isn’t even in the works is only going to end badly. You self-entitled kids are what’s dragging games down. There is nothing that says they have to make an expansion every x amount of years. This is why we get those kittenty copy pasted expansions.

If you like how game y releases their expansion every x amount of years then go play game y.

Btw you do know they don’t pay attention to the forum, even if you are able to get their attention, itll just get turned into a cdi for easier storage

in my opinion free to play – permanent access even (with a one time purchase) with no subscription costs to play.

what are you even trying to argue in terms of pay model? Regardless if they release 100 free expansions,the game would never “really be f2p”. You already spent at least $60. If your trying to support the 100% free model… your in the wrong game.

They stopped supporting gw1 because of gw2. That is just business sense. It should be obvious that gw1 could never fully become f2p….what company in their right mind would refund millions? They went from subscription play to non subscription play.

It should of be rather obvious that the gem shop comment wasn’t directed at you, perhaps it was towards the other poster that was quoted, you know the one you “sarcastically” replied to and I was just to lazy to separate them. You made several posts showing your general feeling for the gem shop ( that it is worse than gw1 shop – just so that we are on the same track) and your first thought is that my response – that was poking fun of the gw2 shop – was directed towards you? As Walter from The Big Lebowski said " The world does not stop and start at your convenience".

The fact that I responded first to something mid-way through the post before responding to something at the top of the post should of rung a bell no?

Reanne.5462:

echo.2053:

Outside maybe T1, is there actually a time where any 3 servers are on at the same time outside the first 4 hours of reset? Or should a weeklong match be decided by those 4 hours because at any given time, 1 of the servers is asleep?

3 people can take a tower, the week wouldn’t be decided by the first four hours on reset, there are always people playing, they just are not noticeable because one of the servers will always have more coverage.
If a three person team takes a tower the way things are now, they will most likely not increase their servers score, because it will immediately be flipped back by the server with the most coverage. If that 3 person team received points/recognition that they took an objective IMO it would better represent their effort and successful captures.

Less of an all or nothing approach to scoring.

nirvana.8245:

Go play EOTM. Matchups are different every week with different players, guilds, commanders etc etc.

I have no idea what you’re talking about, EOTM is exactly the same no matter the week, either you have a zerg, karma farming, or you don’t. No more fun in EOTM then there was doing the Queensdale champ train.

3 man team…. what??? idk where thats came from. since current match up is too new I randomly picked a server and went to last match up.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/46/217

What do you notice in the income evolution? one server peaks generally at the same time, then few hours later another one takes over and so forth. we have coverage gaps like this because people want to play with other players in the same time zone, no one wants to be out when they are severely outnumbered.

Keeping these gaps in mind how would the scoring be tallied up? If it required all 3 servers to be on at the same time then that would really be the point where the 1st 4 hours would decide the week since there isnt many times where any 3 servers are on at the same time. If only 2 servers need to be on to advance the score… whats to stop them from just trading captures?

Reanne.5462:

I think one thing that needs to be done is to remove the Tick. Why should a server gain points while the other one is sleeping? Is that how you win a war?
“U.S. Forces are holding a town in Iraq, the Taliban is just hanging out in their caves sleeping, But since we are occupying that town, we’re somehow winning the war?”

There should be a scoring system based on taking objectives, not taking an objective, and gaining points because there is no one around to take it back.

Outside maybe T1, is there actually a time where any 3 servers are on at the same time outside the first 4 hours of reset? Or should a weeklong match be decided by those 4 hours because at any given time, 1 of the servers is asleep?

Kuldebar.1897:

How does one “un-sub” or formally “quit” playing GW2 in such a way that ANet could survey such a demographic?

I mean, I “quit” for over 6 months after the Ascended Tier announcement…yet here I am. I even gave my opinion, freely, no survey required, right here on the forums…got infracted for it, but there it was for the world to see, well til it was deleted.

I suppose it wasn’t as pretty a metric as a survey result of yes or no questions…

You’ve already answered your own question. Anything negative is infracted and deleted. For example, Remember all the reports and videos of hackers in game? never happened. Remember all the threads about gold seller spam, yeah someone would have posted if that was actually happening.

Even if they did actually do a demograph itd end up the same way as the consensus of skyhammer. “ok team people are reporting that players are afking during skyhammer because they dislike it, but our reports show that 100% of players playing skyhammer are playing gw2 thus nothing is wrong and skyhammer is a flawless map. good job map creator team”.

( if you haven’t figured it out, read everything above in a sarcastic tone)

If you want a truthful answer think about why they are switching to megaservers when players had 2 guest passes that reset daily.

Devata.6589:

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Devata.6589:

If they would base there whole payment model on expansion there was not even a need for all that stuff in the cash-shop. Now they do not really have a choice.

You know GW1 had a cash shop too, right? A lot worse one than GW2’s, at that.

Yeah a lot lot lot worse then GW2. lol

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_In-Game_Store

Pretty much in-line with what I would expect from a B2P cash-shop. There are a few things I would not want to see in there like the mini’s, the costumes and a few unlocks but overall it’s way less then what we see in the current shop.

Oow and no, the fact that you can use ingame gold for the current game does not make up for that!

Wait what? lol. b2p? err pretty sure you mean pay to play, games usualy require you to buy them in order to play >_>.

Gw1 shop should look like a pay to play shop because it was orignally a play to play game before moving to free to play.

gw1 shop is worse than gw2 shop? well its clear that you never actually played gw1 otherwise pretty sure you would of said the opposite.

gw1 shop
You don’t have to gamble for the skins you wanted
Skins were unique – granted it was only costumes

gw2 shop
You get the pleasure of gambling for a ticket to get the skin that you would like, if your unlucky youll get a scrap in which case youll only need to gamble 9 more times !!!!! unless the item you would like is out of season in which case only 49!!!!!!!

Your desire for spending money for one thing only to get something else that you come across daily? get allured in by the new color dyes only to instead get those common dyes wooooo yeah.

Last but certainly not least: Need a new style? get ready for the all new, never seen before, newly designed wear – your current style that costed prolly 14 gold total except with FLAMES!!!!! at only 20 times the price. then next month instead of red flames we are gonna color them black to make it look like smoke.

lol wow can’t even talk about gw2 store without poking fun. You don’t have to buy a single thing in either games store to play.

Yunielesca.2850:

There is an expansion in preparation. Colin Johanson said

Now that China has launched we’ve freed up a lot of development resources back to get to those things. We also have a lot of people at ArenaNet and you’ve only seen what some them are working on this last year or two. Since we can’t share a road map of what they’re doing per our company policy, all I can answer is I hope when we’re able to show you what all we’ve been doing in total someday in the future – you’re as excited as we are about it.

someday in the future – pretty much the statement i would make if asked to describe the developers. They said they were going to make a scavenger hunt type system for precursors once upon a time ago, how has that been working out?

Businesswise yes ideally you want to to target a big population while having to invest as little resource as possible over time, which they succeded at. In terms for setting up for an expansion however, the game was too directed towards the causal population. Sure itd be something new for a few months but it wouldnt be long till we were back here feeling like those guys who spent $100 on keys trying to get a fused weapon when it first came out. The same underlying issues will still be there though:

loot – As long as your the correct level you can obtain virtually any piece of loot any where in game. Loot isn’t really restricted to certain instances with the exceptions for fractal weapons and weapons that only drop from champ bags. While its nice from the causal player, this is a shot in the foot in the long run. It leads to instance like why do arah when I can do cof? Sure if you want that specific token, a slight chance for a lodestone with a high chance to fail with pugs versus a 5 min run per path, lower chance to fail with pugs for pretty much same loot. The faster the run, more people do the run, more loot enters the market, then prices come down. Once a player is geared then comes the question " what do they do now?". Well they can continue to farm for gold that they can use to buy… oh yeah everything is cheap, work towards a legendary – with low prices its extra fun to grind mindlessly for just the precursor you can refer to the numerous daily posts about that, or they can quit.

new races/skills – well its a nice thought, half of the skills now are worthless or unviable, being rather generous. They already have problems balancing professions and skills. They buff one profession far more than needed, then x months later they do the same thing with a different profession.

Last but not least would be difficulty. With ascended being the new bis, players could potentially fly through the new content and then were back at square one. At the same time raising the difficulty to much could also alientate those who are in full asc which would be negative too.

long story short – Don’t see the value of them making an expansion when they can just reskin and put skins behind a gambling system with less headaches

John Corpening.9847:

Hey Guys,
I’d like to kick of a discussion on scoring in WvW.

Here is a summary of what you guys have brought up in our previous discussions:

• 24 hour coverage
  • How do we make play time in off hours valuable without blowing out the score?
• Snowballing
  • How do we give worlds a fighting chance throughout the duration of the match?
• Stagnation
  • How do I feel continuously challenged when my world is ahead?
  • How does my world break the hold that other worlds have on me when I’m behind?

These are all very much related and solutions are not just in one area but I’d like to keep this discussion focused on scoring. Also, if there is another aspect to scoring that we should consider that I’m missing please feel free to bring it up as we kick off this discussion.

We’ve had some great discussions so far and I want to thank you for keeping it constructive and friendly. I’m looking forward to what you guys bring to this discussion too.

Thanks,
John

Hey,

Ive been having an incredibly busy day so im not fully caught up. But from what i have been able to read, i’ve been noticing the same pattern in these discussions….. so its seems like a good time to go ahead of close this discussion out.

You’ve come up with some interesting viewpoints that well take back to the team to “discuss”. As you stated before the problem isn’t one aspect and that the solution isn’t limited to just one area.

so see you in next discussion

Lol you guys just got cdi for more convenient storage. weve had this discussions a few months after the game first came out and on a reg basis.

How do you decide who gets merged? Easy, You don’t. All servers get merged and split into the eotm style factions keeping populations somewhat equal randomly.

Keeping the same system while merging servers will just result in players flocking to the leading servers continuing the same problem. Pretty sure youd see this if you looked at transfers, well if you read past the second page that is….

I kinda like them. Now I don’t even have to waste time logging, can just assume that the siege there is already disabled. 3 or 4 weeks now without logging in, just assume siege is disabled and nothing has changed. – working as intended.

Q_Q since sig was disabled for being too proactive

Here is a gem

The point of the tourny is quite simple, as offiar said is to make easy money. Promise better rewards for servers that rank higher and then just sit back to watch players gamble on which server they think will be top for that bracket.

They use to be able to claim that it helps bring pvers in wvw, but now that the meta can easily be done in eotm, land of the uplevel champ zerg….its more like why bother?

Berk.8561:

echo.2053:

No doubt some communities are more pleasant than others, but pride doesn’t really exist. Your fooling yourself if you think thats true, come in third for weeks in a row and youll see people transfer off,

That people transfer off a server that comes in third for weeks in a row does not preclude server pride really existing among those who don’t. Eredon Terrace has spent a lot of time coming in third and being at the absolute bottom of the rankings in NA. While we’ve certainly lost people to transfers who were unhappy with that, we have a very solid core of players who have a great deal of server pride, including not only people who have stuck with the server through thick and thin but people who have transferred off and then came back to ET because they missed playing with the people there.

echo.2053:

In its current state theres nothing that they can do, they can’t restrict play hours or force people onto other servers.

There are other things they could do such as adjusting handicapping the score based on population playing at the time (using a rolling average population that responds instantly to increases in population and slowly to decreases and factors in previous week participation numbers to reduce the ability of servers to manipulate their populations for scoring), which would both make lower population servers more competitive in terms of points and provide incentive for the more powerful servers to attack each other rather than gang up on the weakest server (which happens now).

While Glicko is used in competitive environments for ranking, there are other ranking and handicap systems that adjust points to allow weaker competitors to win match-ups, including point spreads. What they need is a handicapping or scoring system that allows a weaker server that punches above it’s weight in participants (not necessarily past performance, which is what Glicko takes into account) to actually win the match-up in points, not simply tell that they did better or worse than expected, even if they won or lost the match-up.

Until they provide a way for less populated or less well covered servers to win actual matches with points, the server with the most population and best coverage is going to win, and the way to assure winning is going to be to transfer to the server with the most population and best coverage because that’s who is predictably going to win. Make winning about more than population and coverage through handicapping of the match-up score and then they’ll solve the problem.

In theory that seems reasonable but in reality that would be incredibly complex. For example factoring population loss/gain from outside factors such as school and holiday breaks, you may/may not have experience this on et but fairweathers who come out to karma train during the easy times and are gone during the hard.

As much as we may hate coverage gaps handicapping based on that would penalize the servers and possibly make it far worse. For example suppose a server is the strongest during ocx time but weakest during the rest of the time, It wouldn’t remotely be fair to handicap them which in many times is the only time they can catch up.

No doubt some communities are more pleasant than others, but pride doesn’t really exist. Your fooling yourself if you think thats true, come in third for weeks in a row and youll see people transfer off, Have a tourny where better rewards are promised for placing higher and youll see in an influx of transfers to promising servers, get a matchup against a lower pop server and youll see more people on the field, get a match up versus servers with higher pop and youll see less.

In its current state theres nothing that they can do, they can’t restrict play hours or force people onto other servers. Tournies cause some population shifts but they are always temp and end up just being mini versions of the same issue.

Some things are lost while other could be gained if they were to turn to factions. Right now if your facing a super stacked server its A. suck it up B. tank down C. transfer out. If it were factions theres a possiablity that anet could move servers around to somewhat even it out, its never going to be perfect.

They need to scrap this 3 tier system in favor of the 12 server 2 league system like they are doing for the chinese version. I dont mind getting stomped for a week, but getting locked into 8 weeks of that……can’t imagine why multiple servers are not ppting.

Sadly this will fall on deaf ears, probably merged into some cdi to be more conviently ignored in favor of increased sales from transfers :/