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I’ve mined the nodes every single day for months (like legit never missed a day since Bfen came out) now, noticed little to no change. Some days I get bad RNG and only get 3 rubies, other days I get 13. RNG is RNG.

I have 11 stacks of rubies right now as a sample size (at least 8 from gathering, maybe 2-3 from dailies; I don’t usually do hab either).

I wanted to farm some ascended armor on my alt for raids, my main climbed from 1400->1800 MMR before I stopped bothering and let it decay lol.

I actually carry low tier games by going full glass builds and killing 3-4 people at once because they’re just so bad. If you can’t do the same then maybe you’re where you deserve to be.

Pro leaguers (the really good ones) can even carry a team of 1800 MMRs because they’re that good. I don’t know any pro league player stuck in bronze because of “RNG” lmao.

I mean you guys have no proof the games are lost because of other people. I’ve climbed through silver on an alt into T3 gold and never seen 10 games in a row where I couldn’t carry. Maybe 1-2 games were a wash but they weren’t enough to drag me down to bronze.

In the end the only common denominator in all those games is you, yourself so I’m inclined to think you guys are just not really that good and blaming RNG for your losses just seems like a poorly thought out thing since if you play 50 matches it is highly unlikely that all 50 are stacked against you.

So here I am waiting for proof that you guys are really just unlucky and not bad but until then I’m gonna assume you’re just bad.

You can just post a video of your games and show us that the system is really rigged against you.

I thought ANet said the majority of playerbase will be bronze so even if you place silver you’re probably like top 10% of the playerbase in PvP which isn’t that bad.

I mean I get it you’re frustrated some people don’t deserve to even be in silver but they’ll suck and continue sucking until they end up in bronze. I know a guy who 9-26 in gold and he will keep on tanking because he is overrated. Statistically speaking if you keep playing games, you won’t run into enough of these games to make it matter to your rating.

OnizukaBR.8537:

This is the same mentality from MOBAs. People are using the PvEr’s as a scapegoat.
Just think for a second, if the pvers are really bad, and you as a pvper are really better, wouldnt after like a week of pvp matchs you would be at high gold at least and the pvers on bronze so you would never play together?
So maybe you are the same skill level of a pvers and just think you are better because well you play a lot of pvp how could a filthy pvers be on the sameevel as you right?
And before someone say the pvers are always on your team remember the other team has the same pvers believe it or not.

Everyone who blames PvE players should read this.

It’s the same as those WvW commanders blaming PvE players for their wipes, easy scapegoat instead of looking at yourself.

If these people had no cost associated with generating the loot (eg. hacks) they wouldn’t even list sell prices and just fill all the orders all the way down to 0 just like the old Omega Golem dupe exploit back in the day.

There’s a pretty simple explanation why the mats tanked and that’s because wintersday came along and the bags of Festive materials drop cloth/leather/wood.

As to why someone list up so many, it’s obvious because there’s a few dudes who buy order the raw material and refine it to squares and list it to sell. Most people don’t bother doing this but they do and in the grand scheme of things a few hundred stacks isn’t that much if you regularly play the TP.

If they tone down some of the unblockable stuff on DH might be a bit more balanced. Most classes have to actually take stuff to get unblockable but DH is like naturally 3 skills are unblockable which is a little bit OP I reckon.

I don’t see a problem with DH burns, they actually have to trait for that and run glass to get insane burns.

DH overall is sorta fine, just small tweaks then it’ll be good imo. Low tier DHs are so bad, the reason they look OP is because people run straight into the traps and die lol.

There is no reason to show up with a 2-1-1 unless you know you can win that timeslot. For the most part you can just chug along if you are the ‘1’ server and not login at all unless you know you can push for the ‘2’.

Winning is also detrimental, look at how BG would win and become locked for months (even though they probably deserve it), it’s still a disincentive to tryhard and win for servers like say, TC.

I think you need to check the top 100 and see how many are alts and how this was a problem from week 1 yet they kept doing it no complaints until it bit them in the rear now.

MissCee.1295:

Annabel.5127:

Is it really too much to ask for people to not ruin the fun for those who are actually trying to enjoy season 5?

Apparently it is. Although I do think Anet need to accept responsibility for allowing afk/trolling etc to go unpunished and make it a priority to amend.

Every player at every level deserves a fair match.

Funny how NOW they’re saying the system is unfair after they got their top spots ousted. They had no problem doing this on alts clogging up the other spots for top 250 making it unfair for other players.

There should be different rates of decay like other games do it. Low tier such as gold or below no decay. Higher tier such as plat decay 48 hours and legend = 24 hours. I think it’s pretty fair you have to play to keep your top spot otherwise it’s too easy to exploit and q dodge and just keep the spot.

1. Pay your team mates 200g to “Disconnect” if you look like you might lose

2. Duo Q with a reliable player at 5am EST to farm solo Q players 300 rating below you

3. Add all of Toker’s alts so you can queue dodge

+1 I keep losing wasted points in CoE/CoF/SE tracks that I don’t need nor want. Let us queue up a track would be nice, same for WvW.

Low tier play requires a different mentality, you can’t rely on your team at all and thief relies on people rotating and allowing you to +1 fights or bursting people. That doesn’t work in low tier unfortunately unless you are duo-ing.

It’s best to just run super bunker/bruiser and push far, 1v2/1v3 every game and just hope your team can cap a point or 2.

If you dc with someone in your party then both of you get punished but the rest of your team doesn’t.

You’re not wrong Ithilwen. I was 1700 MMR and playing against people in the 2050 range (duo too!) in week 1. Nothing has changed in the algorithm I believe, I just think it’s more obvious what the flaws are now that the population surge has subsided and you’re seeing what we saw on the outliers in week 1.

It’s been a problem since day 1. 9-1 or 10-0 placements let them sit on the very top or snipe a spot in the top 250 in the last week of the season.

I think Evan will probably address this eventually, he seems to be on top of things this season.

Yah if you count all their alt accounts in the top 25 they have a lot of games

Could be decay, on the friends thingy the rating is the effective rating whereas the leaderboard uses the actual rating which includes decay.

The level of your opponents does determine how much you gain and lose. A team of everybody at 1700 MMR will win/lose around 12/13. Likewise a team of top 10 players duking it out will result in 12/13 win lose.

The whole reason he gets +4 and -30 is because he is fighting lower rated players.

You can’t have it both ways and expect realistic gains and non large losses when your games are like 500-10 & 500-58.

If you were actually playing fellow top 10 players in those matches your win/lose ratings wouldn’t be so extreme. The reason you only get +4 or whatever is because you farm solo q players with 2-300 rating lower than you during offpeak when you know there’s no competition.

No pity whatsoever lmao

The sigil has been bugged for some time in PvE, this was noticed once people started doing raids with DPS meters and stuff.

Per the wiki: “The percentage increase is applied to the base condition damage of the player prior to modifiers from effects and other sources.”

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sigil_of_Bursting

Maybe it’s broken in PvP too then. Hopefully this gets enough traction so it’s fixed for all modes

Duo Q gives too much of an advantage at the very highest levels. I know the guys up top are actually good PvP players but if they were really playing solo queue they’d see the struggle instead of having someone else to rely on.

Duo Q the mid plat level doesn’t really help unless you’re underrated, the system inflates the MMR for the duo and makes the games a lot harder to carry which generally duos at this level don’t have that level of synergy to do.

Duo Q at lower levels might help if both of you are good at working together but if the system boosts your MMR up (because of duo) it might even out and end up not being worth it for the same reason above.

Duo makes it so instead of 80% of your team is random, only 60% is. The matchmaker doesn’t work very well at all at the highest levels and I’ve seen people like Wakkey let down by entire team of pugs (including me) because it matched us up with him when our ratings were so much lower vs a pro league duo. He had no chance like that.

For a completely fair system there needs to be pure solo q for obvious reasons.

shagwell.1349:

fishball.7204:

If a bad PvE player joins ranked and they keep losing they’ll eventually just tank to the bottom of bronze where they belong whereas you’d just keep winning after that guy is no longer on your team if you were actually underrated.

You can’t just blame every loss on these “PvE players” when perhaps you’re maybe just not that good yourself.

This argument is wrong.

If a “good” player gets into gold he is at +1500 rating. And at 1500 rating you’ll meet a lot of players that were lucky with their placing and don’t belong there. But they have to play a ton of games to drop down where they belong and most of them don’t.

This leads to a lot of bad matches.

If most of them don’t play a lot of games then the probability of you seeing them is low in the first place. A few bad PvE players aren’t enough to influence your rating significantly at all if you are a good player. Out of hundreds of games of the season maybe a few will be caused by a poor placement but for the most part they won’t be influenced by these outliers.

Blaming PvE players is just an excuse for baddies to feel good about themselves, just like those commanders in WvW who blame wipes on “PvE players” when they’re the ones driving 20 people into 60 and hoping to win.

If a bad PvE player joins ranked and they keep losing they’ll eventually just tank to the bottom of bronze where they belong whereas you’d just keep winning after that guy is no longer on your team if you were actually underrated.

You can’t just blame every loss on these “PvE players” when perhaps you’re maybe just not that good yourself.

BG doesn’t actually have that many queues around the clock, they just have a bigger portion of PPT nerds compared to other servers

I’m liking the system somewhat apart from some minor tweaks here and there. I’ve had way more close matches this season than any other season once people started settling into their placements.

Also bonus points is I get to see some of those pro league/streamers play solo/duo and actually see that they have a trash rating because they got carried by premades and can’t hold their own weight :^)

Frustrates me the most tbh is when I know I made that mistake at the end which cost us the game. I don’t really care if other people are trash since that’s out of my control but it’s most frustrating when you make 1 mistake which cost the entire game at the end lol.

ZilentNight.5089:

Actually since last night there are 2 players that have 6 accounts in top 25 (both duo queuing). I wont name any names but yea considering these players have participated in world championships, most other players don’t have a chance to beat them unless they add all of their accounts and queue dodge….

This is getting a bit absurd really, also having AP associated to these pvp tiers makes no sense. Please remove the Achievement points at least.

Worse than I thought but comes as no surprise.

I already suggested this would happen before S5 started citing a previous example in S1 where team PZ had all the top Guild Challenger leader spots. People were like yeah dude nah these pros will fight for the top spot and not bother doing this! Guess what, they have and are doing this lmao.

Hope this gets addressed pretty soon.

le patch notes Kitta

The only problem I see is that smaller servers used to have some semblance of a force to defend their stuff even if they can’t win that timezone. Now there’s very little to no point to doing this since you won’t win anyway.

The only time worth showing up is the timezone you know you can push for a win, might be NA prime for some, might be OCX for SoS etc.

This is all from the PPT perspective, guilds that look for fights don’t care about this stuff anyway.

Right now there’s maybe 30-50 alt accounts on the top 250 on NA and at least 4 of the top 25 are alts lol.

Now I know I’m not gonna get in top 25 or even 100 anyway but still it feels wrong to me that these players are ruining the competition for the rest of the people who try to get there like the #1 Maguuma player tabbynachos.

I feel like it’s a legit concern if you want PvP to be competitive that the top ladder shouldn’t consist of smurfs and alts lol.

What’s your plan to counter this ANet?

It’s 100 / day after every 72 hours for up to 7 days I believe so basically you were -12 then -26 which means this was around 3 hours time you looked?

When you play, it resets by up to 100 per game, up to +700 after 7 games if you decay hit that far. So what probably happen was you gained back 39 rating from decay but lost 35 for the loss coming to a net of +4.

Since it’s 100 point decay per day it’s 4.16666* per hour.

Huh didn’t even realize this was 3g, I just dumped like 100 on buy orders, enjoy lol.

Guess more people will sell once they realize it’s 3g

Forgotten Legend.9281:

i gotta be honest here folks… i’m getting really tired of people in bronze, complaining about other bronzers who can’t win a 1v2. it especially grinds my gears when people complain that others can’t win a 1v4 or 1v5. and then rage all over everyone with their bloody cussing in team chat. give it a rest.

the difference between me and them… is that i know i’m bad at PvP… most folks in bronze still think they’re gods who belong in the top 250.

full disclosure here. i’m hangin right around 900 give or take. and unfortunately, i’m kinda stuck playing prime-time because of my work schedule. gotta pay the bills somehow. i’m also a casual PvPer (only rank 53) who is interested in the shinies, but who also wants to improve.

i gotta admit, since i’m still a relative noob, i can’t always see my mistakes. i probably rarely see them. and the worst part is, with all these kittening attitudes coming from other jerks in PvP who are just as bad as me, i’m never going to improve because everybody’s too busy cussing each other out.

cussing me out gives me zero motivation to improve, because i’m then too busy blocking / reporting for verbal abuse instead of analyzing my play for the match.

Jerks are in every tier, even at top 250. I wouldn’t give it much thought and just laugh it off as lol salty noob. Just block, move on or play what you can.

Supreme.3164:

Locuz.2651:

There is no such thing as unlucky players. I played with and vs a handfull of the ppl who claim in these very threads that they are unlucky…..and they all where beyond horrible.

800k healing – 240k dmg…the enemy has 2 dh+2 eles and mesmer with portal, I win all my 2vs2,…accordingly to you I should do that much points in dmg…plus decap..and win 1vs1 for others.

One thing that strike me how pretentious are the players “who manage” to reach top 250,

On top of awful balance, there is an awful matchmaking, you get players who refuse to reroll, stacked heavy vs stacked lights, other than swap to ele and try to support the team ( who refuse to reroll )…there is nothing else I can do.

I could swap to druid and roam/support..but then they’d lose teamfights even quicker…I could use a dh or war, I’d kill my targets most likely..but my team would end up ressing them in no time by dieing themselves..I can win my sides fights and decap..my team would lose everywhere else.

Don’t play support in bronze tier, those guys can’t do anything you need to play either a bruiser for 1v2/3s or something that can kill a lot of people quickly (especially those that don’t dodge).

PlagueParade.7942:

Okay, did I miss something? I thought it was 1200 ascended shards of glory for the SEASON not the week. I know you can continually get the upper half of the rewards afterwards. When you reach the final chest you’d just continually get that llama over and over and that’s it. Not the ascended shards of glory beneath that. That is just a one time thing if I am right.

Nah you just get the 20g and the other stuff, no Ascended Shards or Llamas after the first iteration (I’ve done it like 8-10 times now – 158 games).

Just vs’d you guys in a duo, #1 and #3 we had nobody even top 100 (?) and I was like #240. Lost 12 rating to you guys in a total 1 sided stomp. Idk man maybe it’s rewarding for you but it feels totally unfair for me, like I lose less sometimes losing to random teams than you guys who have way higher MMR than me.

For reference I have 1730 MMR, you guys have like 2050 which is 320 MMR difference and I lost 12 =/

I feel like you guys up top should be fighting guys up top and not gaining anything from fighting people with 300 MMR diff, I know that if I stomped some random dude in silver as a plat guy I don’t deserve anything.

I’d be ok with just having a full set per season, just feels really weird right now to have 100 shards less than the full set.

Azukas.1426:

1. You must state your current PvP rank when posting your opinion on balance. This will help Evan and the gang get a better picture of skill floors/ceilings.

17xx plat right now. Had a bad placement at 1400ish, took me 60 games to get up to plat and well over 100 to get to where i am now, wasn’t fun fighting with keyboard turners and totally new players but I grinded through it but I digress.

I think every single class is decent right now in PvP and I’m never upset to see them which is great but class stacking is still an issue. Quite often I get 2 mediocre thieves who don’t wanna swap and loses us the match, I’m not talking pro league thieves here who can make 2 thief comp work.

DH – kinda strong team presence, good 1v1, overall decent pick

Ele – seems like a must/staple for every game unless the other team focuses hard and has necros + burst and/or just rotates around the Ele

Thief – decent to very good depending on player skill, seen a few variable builds like p/p, d/p, staff and d/d work quite well

Warrior – really strong in the right hands, power and condi both viable

Engy – feels a bit weak to me tbh, all I can do is be a res bot and beat bad players 1v1, might be really good at pro level and have low skill floor in lower tiers but mid tier it’s a bit weird

Necro – strong solid pick but requires a somewhat decent team or else you just get deleted instantly every team fight if your allies can’t support you 100% while you peel/kite

Rev – decent in the hands of a pro, everybody else should just not play rev though because it’s either they’re godlike or total trash depending on who plays it

Druid – still solid, haven’t really seen many around tbh but decent mobility / support i think it’s ok

Pretty much tons of 1.6-1.8k have no idea what they’re doing. My friend placed 1.9k and is now 1.4k, tons of them are overrated right now and it really shows.

I had a mesmer lose a 1v1 to an ele, like literally he died to the standard meta ele in ~1700 rating/plat. I’ve also seen some placement guys on the enemy teams which leads to 500-0 games.

I’m not an amazing player by any stretch, currently ~1700ish grinded my way up from 1400 due to poor placement but these are my last 10 games in Plat lol. Sooo many are not close at all. I will add none of them are 4v5s or DCs or anything like that, they were all actual 5v5s.

Yeah I had to grind my way up from bottom of gold to plat over like 60 games. What a waste of time and I’m worried on the last few days some people are just going to 9-1/10-0 snipe the top 250 positions like that :/

Amaimon.7823:

fishball.7204:

Ya know most rich people don’t hoard mystic coins to manipulate the market, most would just sell it a high price and invest it elsewhere for easier money. Mystic coins as a market isn’t that profitable at all and you guys are complaining about Mystic coins when just last week or 2 they were 68s!

The only reason they went up so much is because of winters presence… if you’re smart you’ll wait until Wday is over THEN make it when the coins are 68s again…

This isn’t some kind of natural inflation of mystic coins prices, this is obviously a demand spike so quit complaining or next time maybe plan ahead and buy the mystic coins beforehand.

That’s BS and you know it.
It’s not the wintersday presence that’s driving the costs, and they weren’t 68s just last week.

Early december ‘15 it was ~15-20s, after that, in the course of 6-7 months it climbed to 80s, until it reached its current steadline in end july (75-80s) and now since july is has stabilized a bit, but it’s still slowly climbing.

The problem is: more collections and recipes enter the game requiring more mystic coins. More mystic coins do not enter the game. the price of a single mystic coin increases. more people hoard their coins. Hoarded coins and more recipes mean a self-inducing cycle of increasing rarity

https://www.gw2tp.com/item/19976-mystic-coin

A bit over 2 weeks ago, Nov 30 buy orders were 63-66s, I remember because I bought 3 stacks and then sold them when Wintersday hit @ 1g.

I forgot the exact time frame in my original post but basically if you bought the coins before Wday you could’ve got them anywhere between 63s and 70s instead of 1g but of course that requires using your brain.

Ya know most rich people don’t hoard mystic coins to manipulate the market, most would just sell it a high price and invest it elsewhere for easier money. Mystic coins as a market isn’t that profitable at all and you guys are complaining about Mystic coins when just last week or 2 they were 68s!

The only reason they went up so much is because of winters presence… if you’re smart you’ll wait until Wday is over THEN make it when the coins are 68s again…

This isn’t some kind of natural inflation of mystic coins prices, this is obviously a demand spike so quit complaining or next time maybe plan ahead and buy the mystic coins beforehand.

Wolfric.9380:

unfortunately i fear it realy needs a solid sample of 50+ or even 100 matches, and that should be with your best class+build to be accurate, till the MMR reflects your skill accurate enough. Ranked is not for total casuals i also overshot the 1k matches after one year and main one class 90%. But i don´t considder myself a hardcore Gw2 player, i usually play 1-3 matches a day with some days left out and some like tuesday more so i have an average of about 2-3/day. Thats roughly 30-60 minutes per day playing GW when i add WvW roaming. And yes with that speed i need over a month to reach the 100 matches.

I feel like the problem isn’t me but it’s other people who don’t pvp a lot and thus have a volatile MMR. Borderline plat/gold games I get signet of shadow thieves and signet of hunt rangers or sometimes I get top 30 players who are +230 MMR above me (eg. mrauls). Before there was no point of reference but now there is for me since the MMR is shown, a +-230 range is way too large for fair games imo

Tbh if it was 6ap I won’t mind that much but 42 AP is a pretty big deal to the top AP players considering some of them haven’t even missed 42 AP in 4 years.

If it’s just titles fine, I don’t even have those Champion of the Arena etc titles back in the day and those show prestige just fine without the need to attach 6 ap onto it.

Also this is the first time they’ve done anything AP related that has a limit on the number of players that can obtain it, this is totally new so it’s worth discussing whether you agree with it or not. Liadri/legendary league titles S1-4 were all skill dependent but there was no limit to how many people can get it.

ANet should keep changing the PPT rules until Maguuma can get a win! It’s only fair Magswag gets the best KDR NA, best PPT NA, best ktrains NA.

P P T S T R E S S

ANet should get some OCX servers and then everyone should just play on OCX servers. It’s not gamebreaking if Americans have 500 ping anyway.

1. People that hoard gold and never spend it don’t cause inflation. In fact, not spending gold is basically deflation because they expect their gold to be worth more in the future.

2. There are already plenty of cosmetic gold sinks in the game, the wardrobe is over 300k gold cost not to mention the achievements/collections that sink gold too.

3. TP fees are the only thing that can keep up with wealth since it’s always a flat 15% tax regardless of how rich you are. Setting an arbitrary gold value doesn’t keep up with anything.

4. Having less gold in the system doesn’t inherently benefit the consumer, it also makes getting gold harder which could outweigh any decreases in costs. Deflation is a scenario where everything costs less but gold is harder to obtain and the situation ends up being bad for the consumer rather than good.

5. Gold to gem doesn’t indicate inflation at all, gold is but one factor in that equation since it is also determined by how many people convert gems→gold using real life money. Using it as an indicator of inflation is a poor idea at best and goes to show how little you know about GW2. At the very least, get a basket of goods in GW2 and do something like the CPI, come on.