Before people forget, there was a time when charged lodestones were hitting around 4-5g each, Onyx lodestones were 1.5g each, t6 blood was around 1g each, ectos were hitting kitten . T6 dust also reached around 50-60s each. Of course, those also were the times when a chaos gun was around 100-200g only. (legendaries are crazy now)
I’m no economics guy. But if inflation was that severe, wouldn’t it affect all kinds of goods instead of a few luxury pieces? Like, wouldn’t my 70g now have less purchasing power than back then? (I was gone for more than 6 months more or less) Honestly I feel I can still buy the things I want/need the same as before. And its even easier now, coz just by playing casually, I managed to get 40g more just buy playing the game over a few days (which would probably be pennies to most of you guys).
Thing is almost all material are tied in with legendary and ascended gear. So it will compose of a huge percent of the CPI. If you look at your collection, only thing not related are cooking material and miniature.
Anet controlled the lodestone price at that time with orian jewel box, and t6 dust with ecto salvaging. I suppose the champ bag helps stabilize the core and lodestone price after that.
I don’t know what you getting at for luxury item. You can play in exotic and not worry about the economy. If that’s what you mean. Because just about every item do went up in price.
possible for platinum to spike, but probably just caped since people will be getting extremely good gold/hour by mining platinum if it spiked.
I just think realistically it is easier for silver to double in price but not platinum. Since if people are getting extremely good gold per hour. Everyone will be mining them, just like how iron is capped at a price which give too good of gold per hour.
And we are talking about time gated material here, so a bit different than what happened to iron from 1 silver->2.35 and quickly fall.
It probably depend on the amount needed for each material. For example mithril is used in mass for deldrimore steel ingot. Not sure what is the prime material for xunlai electrum ingot.
They actually nerfed the champ bag and that cut down the gold into the economy, but that didn’t stop inflation on “most of the material”.
I’m no economist but as a player’s point of view, all they care about is how long it take to acquire an item. Even if inflation stops like the OP says, everyone will be earning just lower gold per hour, and takes the same time to acquire say “a legendary”.
People aren’t being realistic when they want to form a SC PUG at their convenience. What’s your point?
I dont’ know what SC means.
But I know most speed run PUG actually do fairly well. definately not those 5 minute cof runs, but 10 minutes isn’t so bad.
The problem is when you see bow ranger, or staff guardian, or people with 1000 AP. Quite honestly most runs is actually pretty decent without those people, that’s why people specifically asked those people not to join their party. But those people still joins.
Hence the PUG runs. I don’t know why I can’t be allowed to do speed run in PUG.
My guild have 40-50 people online 24/7, and not everyone want to do dungeon at the exact same time I asked. I think people just aren’t being realistic.
regardless of why they got kicked in this situation. People do kick other people just to get their guildmates. Or they kicked other people not because they are terrible, but because they have even better options.
You can always create and delete a new character every 2 weeks, and use the Banker Golem (it is account-bound) that is sent with each one, as long as you own a DDE or CE. It’s a cheap alternative to the Permanent Bank Access Express.
yes life sucks. But the guy pretty much have 116 bag space and that’s not enough, if you ask me, what he really need is option to get rid of drops. So if he can’t get the permanent bank, try for the permanent merchant and salvage o matic to get rid of drop etc.
and if his an altaholic. that will be a serious problem, if he just have 1 character, a permanent merchant and salvage o matic will do.
if anet want to expand bag space I suppose many people will be happy. gem price will probably skyrocket again, and some people will complain they dont’ have enough money.
i thought the chest only have a few blues and greens, you need to wait for the popup to get the 1 gold reward. And path 2 takes very long for the popup to come up.
But if kitten is official a “bad cursed” word. We should find another word to replace it for censorship.
Since I find the word kitten really inappropriate.
Who is this “we”? It’s ANet’s forum and ANet’s automatic forum filter.
You can always make a suggestion thread as to a replacement word, where it will be ignored by ANet and slide off the front page after a handful of posts.
Since Kitten have officially become a cursed word in the GW2 community. I think it is only right for Anet to filter it.
Dont’ know what’s going on. It could also mean he bought 1 and the next one just happen to be expensive or took down his listing.
hard to say if it’s a good investment. The people that bought it early because of lion arch being destoryed probably the one making the most out of it.
Most community whine and complain about inflation especially when people’s earning isn’t increased to the same level of inflation.
Except their earnings are increased to match inflation – assuming they are ‘just playing the game’ of course, and not power-farming dungeons or otherwise just farming raw coin. That’s not the issue.
As a farmer I can honestly say my earning power is decreased. I am indeed earning much more money. But it would take me more time to farm to earn things I want compare to before. eg. tier6 materials.
If you just play the game normally. You probably dont’ earn much money. The difference of money given to farmers and people who play normally is quite big.
Quite honestly I don’t really care. Legendary, ascended armor, skins are the 3 main money sink, and I really don’t care atm. Most people playing normally probably dont’ really care too.
I honestly just look at it as Anet trying to make some money from gem store, that’s why the economy is what it is. I don’t know why people think there’s too much deep complex system going on.
So it depend how you look at it, from a player’s POV, or from their POV.
As a player, I would be much more worried about the alternative positions we could be in. The economy probably could be better, so Anet should probably try and make it better. But it’s doing well enough that I worry that attempting to change it will make it worse.
I dont’ know what you mean by the economy could be better. I think the topic is about inflation. Most community whine and complain about inflation especially when people’s earning isn’t increased to the same level of inflation. So I think people complaining is perfectly normal.
I think people’s earning are increasing though. Some people mentioned farming some tier6 material for good money. So if people are earning more money, that cancel the effect of inflation.
well people are not happy with price increase, I’m not sure if that’s called a problem.
But at the same time, the Anet economist probably are more worried about how much money they make next fiscal period. Unless inflation is actually hurting their profit, they dont’ consider it a problem. Besides, the gemshop make money from people spending real cash, and inflation help people stay poor so they’ll spend real cash.
So it depend how you look at it, from a player’s POV, or from their POV.
If Anet allows way too profitable farms to exist, the value of the currency will drop. Take a look at D3, and how poor their economy was. Money was too abundant, and in turn, made it near worthless on the market. So while I can’t make as much money anymore, I can forgive them for stealing my farms.
Do you remember the D2 “Eye of Jordan” ring based economy. lawl
I do remember. It was Stones of Jordan (SoJs), and I made hundreds, if not thousands of dollars selling those on Ebay.
GW2 economy will never break like that, because Anet employs actual people who understand how economies work.
Maybe you can talk crap about other mmorpg instead of a game which isn’t even mmorpg.
beside you are making fun of a franchise that make a lot of money.
The same reason, it is hard to be over critical of GW2, since I can’t say it is actually doing bad compare to other mmorpg on the market.
I dont’ know how anyone can write an essay base on John Smith one or two sentence reply.
Because quite honestly most of the time I have no idea what he’s talking about base on his one or two sentence reply.
I believe most economy do have inflation, but at the same time, people’s salary kept on rising. I think I can earn more money now in GW2 compare to before. But the rate of price going up far exceeding the earning capacity, especially Anet kept on nerfing good ways to earn money.
I honestly don’t know that much about economic or do I care.
All I know is I need to farm much more to get the things I want.
Many people probably felt the same way, that is why they are complaining.
Actually playing the game (aka moving from zone to zone, trying different content once in a while, doing things you enjoy) has the same effect (the accumulation of coin and items you can sell for coin) with two important benefits:
1: This is not subject to Anet’s diminishing returns because you are not doing the same thing or staying in the same place very long.
2: It’s a lot more fun.
I suggest trying it sometime.
oh ya thanks. why do you think I only do map completion now. Because I’m moving zone to zone.
But its crazy how every other mmo, and even Gw1 had challenging and rewarding end game content. And yet, Gw2 fails miserably at pouring out such content.
The only thing ‘crazy’ about that is people can’t break away from rehashed routines that make that challenging and rewarding end game content of all those other MMO’s boring tired after doing it again and again. GW2 approach to end game is a breathe of fresh air.
The irony is most GW2 players are actually the one doing the same dungeon and world boss everyday over and over again.
And those people playing those “other” game probably didn’t do the same dungeon over 10 times. Thank god for 1 week cooldown.
Anyway you are playing the game wrong OP. The game is what it is. If it’s not there, it’s not there.
Nah Bloin, you forgot that you can’t farm cloth. You have to salvage drops for cloth.
You can farm ore and wood until you’re blue in the face. Trust me, I am blue in the face because that’s what I’ve been doing so that I can buy the last few bits that I need for my Sunrise.
The price difference between ascended cloth, leather, metal and wood is a reflection on the fact that drop rates for leather items is quite high, and you can farm ore and wood.
Cloth drop rates suck by comparison, even silk.
I didnt forget that. The OP was talking about loot bags and salvage rates. All those favour cloth.
Bags and salvaging may favor cloth, but it sure don’t seem like it. Cloth seems to always be the one (basic) material I lack in. Have oodles and oodles of ore and wood…
But that doesnt neccessarily mean that cloth drops less, it could also be that demand is just higher for cloth.
I’d say I could see the demand being higher because all 3 armor crafts use it, but wood and ore are used in more of the professions (like 5 of them) and don’t seem to have the same issue (except maybe ancient and orichalcum, but that’s slightly different I think).
mithril ingot only use 2 ore. bolt of silk use 3. you need 100 silk bolt for ecto refinement, the other material use 50.
basically a deldrimore steel ingot use 100 mitirl ore. But a bolt of damask use 300 silk scrap.
i’m aware of this. i’m not looking specifically at ascended though, that just compounds the issue.
well silk went from 8 copper to 1.91 silver just because of ascended. So ascended is probably the main cause.
I wasn’t looking at just silk though. People have complained about issues with cloth prior to ascended’s introduction. Not generally about silk, more along the line of wool, cotton, and linen. Yes, silk is a little bit of an issue now with the change from 2 scraps to 3 and the addition of ascended needing 100 bolts per (that was an omg wtf moment), but I was looking at the bigger picture regarding cloth as a whole.
things like iron will always be stable with all the miners. leather isn’t used as much. wood can be harvest, not to mention artificer spam potions instead of using wood for leveling.
I honestly don’t know that much about economic or do I care.
All I know is I need to farm much more to get the things I want.
Many people probably felt the same way, that is why they are complaining.
Farming is kinda moot here, I mean it can be done but its a moot point with a global loot table. Unless you mean just farm gold and buy. I just highly don’t recommend only farming or only grinding, break it up, or it’ll kill your funnies
That is very deep talk. I remember my guildmate trying to introducing the game to new people. And he says “Oh there is no grind in this game, just alot of farming”.
Anyway, I hardly ever farm any more. After giving up legendary, I really don’t need to farm that much, all I want is new character or bag slot so I’m fine for now.
Good thing I did all my farming 1 year ago, when things are still cheap.
everyone would need like 7500-10800 silk just for one set ascended armor.
Only heavy armor need mithril ore and only need 1600.
You really don’t need that many mithril ore and wood for ascended weapon. For example an ascended greatsword only need 900 mithril and 450 wood. Or staff need 1350 wood and 300 mithril.
So unless everyone crafted like 15 ascended weapons for 1 set or armor, the amount of silk use are far more than wood and ore.
Obviously there is many things to consider, but if we just look at ascended crafting, the amount of silk needed is quite a lot compare to wood and ore. That is probably why silk is far more expensive.
Nah Bloin, you forgot that you can’t farm cloth. You have to salvage drops for cloth.
You can farm ore and wood until you’re blue in the face. Trust me, I am blue in the face because that’s what I’ve been doing so that I can buy the last few bits that I need for my Sunrise.
The price difference between ascended cloth, leather, metal and wood is a reflection on the fact that drop rates for leather items is quite high, and you can farm ore and wood.
Cloth drop rates suck by comparison, even silk.
I didnt forget that. The OP was talking about loot bags and salvage rates. All those favour cloth.
Bags and salvaging may favor cloth, but it sure don’t seem like it. Cloth seems to always be the one (basic) material I lack in. Have oodles and oodles of ore and wood…
But that doesnt neccessarily mean that cloth drops less, it could also be that demand is just higher for cloth.
I’d say I could see the demand being higher because all 3 armor crafts use it, but wood and ore are used in more of the professions (like 5 of them) and don’t seem to have the same issue (except maybe ancient and orichalcum, but that’s slightly different I think).
mithril ingot only use 2 ore. bolt of silk use 3. you need 100 silk bolt for ecto refinement, the other material use 50.
basically a deldrimore steel ingot use 100 mitirl ore. But a bolt of damask use 300 silk scrap.
i’m aware of this. i’m not looking specifically at ascended though, that just compounds the issue.
well silk went from 8 copper to 1.91 silver just because of ascended. So ascended is probably the main cause.
Nah Bloin, you forgot that you can’t farm cloth. You have to salvage drops for cloth.
You can farm ore and wood until you’re blue in the face. Trust me, I am blue in the face because that’s what I’ve been doing so that I can buy the last few bits that I need for my Sunrise.
The price difference between ascended cloth, leather, metal and wood is a reflection on the fact that drop rates for leather items is quite high, and you can farm ore and wood.
Cloth drop rates suck by comparison, even silk.
I didnt forget that. The OP was talking about loot bags and salvage rates. All those favour cloth.
Bags and salvaging may favor cloth, but it sure don’t seem like it. Cloth seems to always be the one (basic) material I lack in. Have oodles and oodles of ore and wood…
But that doesnt neccessarily mean that cloth drops less, it could also be that demand is just higher for cloth.
I’d say I could see the demand being higher because all 3 armor crafts use it, but wood and ore are used in more of the professions (like 5 of them) and don’t seem to have the same issue (except maybe ancient and orichalcum, but that’s slightly different I think).
mithril ingot only use 2 ore. bolt of silk use 3. you need 100 silk bolt for ecto refinement, the other material use 50.
basically a deldrimore steel ingot use 100 mitirl ore. But a bolt of damask use 300 silk scrap.
Basically. The thing is, the event has to be active in order to do it. This poses a problem because short of wandering from map to map, you never know when a boss is going to show up.
The temple train in Orr was a much better option, but the megaserver update made ’em a bit less predictable.
shatter spawn at reset time, karaka queen 1 hour later. I’m not sure what you mean you don’t know when it come up.
If people given permanent access to buy things, they are more likely to just farm gold. Which would just cause gold/gem price to spike without necessary making more money. So that’s probably why they use the tactics they do.
