Guild Wars 2

im a pu power mesmer and here a few tips:

we got 4 stealth utilities
decoy
torch stealth that can be traited to remove condis and shorter cd
massinvis
veil

veil and massinvis are on a long cooldown(90 sec)
deco has 40 sec
and traited torch has 24 sec

here is what i do with my mesmer:
so as a thief u usually attack first out of stealth. i either get immobilized or the backstab hits me hars
if its backstab i use decoy
if i get immobilized i use torch

dthn the first few clones will appear as i dodge or blink. if i blink i get put out of stealth right away so dodging is better as thieves tend to go after the clones then.
now when i reappear i try to act like a clone and see if thief gets out of stealth to attack eithe my clone or me. if u do i use second stealth and as i use pistol i can daze thief, meanwhile i cast pistol phantasm on u.
pistol phantasm on power pu hits like a truck, kill it or u die because verytime u come out of stealth it will beready to attack u again.
if u are on me i use blurred frenzy so that one can crit u very hard too so watch out for the mh sword mesmers. we want u to be close and if u havent killed my pistol phantasm it will hit u for 3-6k(if pure glass) while i could immobilize u with ileap(if that one doesnt bug out as usual) and then do a blurred frenzy on u.
if u dont kill the pistol phantasm ill be able to summon a second one by now and then its gg for u.

now on my pu power mesmer i have more issues with the condi pu mesmer.
problem is soo many bleeds so many vulnerability and then if they use pistol phantasms ill have a hard time.
pu condi is as tank as i am but their phantasms and clones can be a real pain. so here if u are a thiefgoe in stealth and wai a few seconds the real mes stealth doesnt last as long as yours so he will pop up. lots of pu noobs will use second stealth way too soon so they are 2 stealth down, now all u have to wait for is the massinvis which has a long casting animation and then is your chance.kite around the pu mes and let him use up all stealth, if he manages a pistol blurred frenzy combo on u he cant kill u but he will get that phantasm up that will attack u as soon as u go ut of stealth. u have to kill it or its gg soon. once mes used up all stealth his torch will be up again, go in, attack he will stealth and after that u are free to kill him. avoid the clones unless u can kill them from distance.

Fox.3562:

I’ve also thought about whether adding a second stack of confusion to Confusing Enchantments would be OP, and I don’t think it would be. It was nerfed in the first place because a group of 12 glamour mesmers could easily stack 25 stacks of confusion on an entire zerg, since there’s no AoE cap, and they could wipe 60 people with 12. Back then, 25 stacks of confusion could easily tick for 12.5k per attack, so particularly squishy classes could 1-shot themselves, and even bunkers would die in 2 attacks.

If confusion stacks were increased to 2 per glamour field, you would only need 6 glamour mesmers for 25 stacks of confusion. However, since confusion damage is cut in half, 25 stacks of confusion would only tick for ~6.75k instead of the previous 12.5k. That seems like a lot, but there’s no inherent cover conditions to stop the confusion from being wiped. A single (traited) warhorn warrior could cleanse the confusion from himself and 9 of his allies, nerfing all the damage output of the mesmers for the next 32 seconds or so.

Compare that to a glassy power wells Necromancer dropping a Well of Suffering. It’s certainly possible for Well of Suffering to tick for 3k DPS, and standing in it for its entire duration will kill many classes. Yet, nobody complains that Well necromancers are OP because avoiding their damage is easy when you know what to look for; “don’t stand in the red circles.” Glamour Mesmer damage is the same way, if not easier to avoid; “don’t walk through the pink circles, and if you do, make sure you don’t have 15 stacks of confusion before you start spamming skills.”

1 attack would never tick 12.5k ever, but yeah confusion bombs by 1 mes was ver strong. eotm had a bug where confusion would deal the pve dmg and honsetly in the current meta the pve confusion dmg would tick up to 2k but wasnt overpowered at all. the bb nerf would have been enough to reduce the stacks and nowadays condis are cleansed very quickly in a zerg, so a buff to mesmers confusion and maybe a trait that makes confusion dmg higher would be great.

during this bug where illusions would dissapear when enemy stealthes showed me how ai rules the mesmers. thats why mesmers dont perform well in group fights as ai dies too quickly in aoe and cc spam. ai is also very buggy. los/obstructed bugs and phantasms being bugged for months cripples our dmg a lot. so a fix would be something like a trait that allows us to change phantasms into a non ai based aoe or new skills or weapons that give us access to aoe.
necros can choose to use minion builds, but they dont have to depend on it. power necros dont use any minions so should mesmers have an option to not use ai for game modes like wvw for example.
id love to have whip as a weapon and the whip could be an aoe weapon only, like the necro staff is aoe marks mesmer whip could be hexes or something like that.
i think our main problems are ai and ai is very buggy, so make the mesmer a little less 1v1 and a little more light armor class that can stay ranged and deal aoe dmg.

so some ideas:

change mantras into something else, a ground targeted aoe or something
give us a weapon that is not ai heavy like a two handed whip that is an aoe weapon
rework glamour and glamour traits as confusion is not viable anymore for a mesmer
give us an option to not use ai like a trait or so
make us less 1v1 duelist pet class and turn us into a true light armor class
remove moa and give us a better elite
give us an option to exchange the shatter f1-f4 to something non ai based
rework image to deal aoe fire dmg
rework scepter aa
rework staff aa
rework or un nerf chaos armor
remove and replace mimic
remove and replace illusion of life
reduce tw cooldown
rework clone death traits (too much condi which is causing the whining)
rework pu buffs to compensate for some buffs
fix ileap
fix los/obstructed buggs
fix iwarden

its not a hack we had a 3 way fight in fa bl and all servers got ported back to spawn at the same time.

yep happened right after the eotm patch in fa bl. i got ported back to spawn like 3 times in a row.

thief: cant touch this!
warrior: you shall not pass,run away, move or survive!
mesmer: catch me if u can!nope thats not me but nice try!

i would love the torch phantasm do like an aoe fire dmg or so. after all its coming out of torch=flame
the slowness of the image plus the single target thing makes this phantasm very weak.

azizul.8469:

i find it hard to convince new players i know to play mesmer. most of them either roll a guardian or a warrior or a thief, and well probably ranger.

my guild has around 20-30 active players, only 1 or 2 actively playing mesmer, including me.

yep in my old guild we used to have mainly mesmers. after all the nerfs lots of them stopped playing the game and in my new guild we got like 2 people sharing the veilbot duty. its kinda weird but im happy when i can switch to my necro and enjoy the lootbags and feel strong with my aoe.
everyone else plays mostly guard and warrior and then we got ele and necro, but 80% is heavies.
no rangers
1 engi
a few thieves

yeah i noticed that too on my necro in spvp yesterday. the minions are acting differenty. its weird but also other bugs got worse. the los bug and iwarden bug got way worse on my mes and the minions are not attacking as well as before patch. i think all ai got broken again. it seems like ai gets worse and worse with every patch .i understand that ai is hard to program, but they are part of ranger,necro and mesmers so either revamp/fix them all or replace them with:

defensive traits and skills and new aoes for necros(something that helps necros combat speed a little too)

non-ai aoe and support skills for rangers(would help in wvw)

non-ai aoe dmg skills for mesmers and new weapon skills

Ross Biddle.2367:

Osicat.4139:

I think iMage should have a pushback,

/Osicat

Also, its attack renamed to “Hadoken!”

Additional new animation
http://images.wikia.com/streetfighter/images/1/12/Shinkuu-hadoken_tvc1.jpg

~These changes approved by /Osicat

can my mesmer scream hadooooooooken when casting?this would be epic.

Kenmei.7138:

selan.8354:

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Don’t worry, other professions have gamebreaking bugs since release.

yes so do we, but yours arent as gamebreaking that your core mecanic get crippled so bad u cant fight anymore. i know your necro bugs and they are terrible bugs, but it doesnt really healp u being jealous of others getting a fix. this bug pretty much mad it impossible to kill a thief on a mes.
your bugs cripple some of your gameplay but u other classes including mes have lots of bugs since release. ileap for example is one of them. the los issues and all that stuff we have simply gotten used to. but if your ds issues get fixed i wont be jealous, ill be happy it gets fixed.

So you’re sayin that destroyin all of necro minions, simply using 1 skill, which are their defense and offence, leaving them totally w/o any means to defend or attack, is not toally gamebreaking?

Yeah… I can see this beein not gamebreakin.

look see it this way.
not everyone uses moa in this game
pu mesmers prefer massinvis due to stealth
no other class has moa
moa is on a very long cooldown
moa can be dodged
moa has casttime and is not instant
yes u lose your minions, but u still got ds and all your weapon skills left

now i know moa is annoying and honestly i dont even want moa as an elite.its a stupid troll elite.

now our bug was very gamebreaking for a mesmer

phantasms are inbound in our weapons, clones are part of our weapons and skills
for shatterer u have ip yes, but u still need the clones to do decent shatterdmg
we only have 1 weapon that doesnt require a target so killing a thief is only possible with illusions
thief,ranger,engi and mes can all stealth
every stealth removed all clones
we had no dmg left vs stealthy characters as phantasms died right away and cooldown is long
so without that ai we got no dmg
this was a gamebreaking bug
we couldnt dodge it, nor avoid it

also see it like this. when someone gets moad they loose all their ttacks and skills for a certain time. if your minions were still to bash everyone which they do, then the moa elite affects u less than every other class. i see the problem with resummoning them after the moa, but again its still an elite after all. i wouldnt mind moa being removed and replace with something more useful though.

Blue.9510:

SilverWF – you do realize that your responses are exactly the type of talk and attitude a lot of people like to avoid right? Belittling people because they don’t agree with you is pointless enough on a forum, let alone what you would respond like in WvW when you win or lose a fight. No thanks.

Personally, I think some people would be able to handle it well and enjoy it, but mostly it would turn into a way to name and shame and/or forms of internet “bullying.”

exactly. in spvp the people are pretty nasty already. u kill a player and u get soooo much trashtalk from them. when i started spvping more regularly my block list went up at least 50 people in 3 months. if u kill someone they vent if u die they troll and bully. in wvw this would be 10 times worse beliave me.
there is already server hate out there….

Xyonon.3987:

They once released a popularity list, most played class. It’s a bit older but here you go:

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/gw2.jpg

oh yeah i was looking for this one, because when i saw it i was like wow mes is bottom.this should tell anet something……just saying

ODB.6891:

selan.8354:

Zardul.3952:

Will i get the chance to Refund all my Bezerk armour when Ferocity hits us?

im full bezerker…

wat? dude, when confusion got nerfed by 50% and bb trait with it, did i get refunded for my rabid gear? no. no one forced u to use berserker. asking for a refund because of a 10% nerf which is like nothing, is very childish sry.

Because one condition type and a class trait have something to do with gear?!? Apples and oranges? That was a class nerf. You can retrait at anytime for a few silver. That cannot be said about exotic and ascended gear. Yeah, no one forced anyone to buy any set. So that argument does not make much sense to me about “no one forcing him to use berserker”. No one forced you to use rabid. No one forces anyone to use pvt or clerics. That wouldn’t make it okay to just reduce the effective stat ratio after purchase on the gear by any large percentage without allowing an exchange.

At least make the response relevant and applicable before calling someone childish.

yes they do have to do with that as rabid gear was only used by mesmers that specced into confusion. the nerf destroyed the entire build, so where is my refund then? and i doubt that berserker gear will be refunded. otherwise they willl have to give everyone fthat ever used anything with crit a full refund.including knights gear and celestial.
this is not even a large percentage. u guys are panicing before the patch even hit.
when the confusion patch hit that was an over 60% nerf for the confusion mesmer and wayyy before pu was introduced. condition mesmers were non viable after that nerf. so yeah my rabid gear was useless then too.

thats the reason why i dont use focus anymore. this bug killed my fave phantasm. i loved the iwarden. its really bad they even touched this phantasm at all as it was fine the way it was before

1 defeat
2.yes it reached all the way from bay till spawn
3.jack sparrow

Zardul.3952:

Will i get the chance to Refund all my Bezerk armour when Ferocity hits us?

im full bezerker…

wat? dude, when confusion got nerfed by 50% and bb trait with it, did i get refunded for my rabid gear? no. no one forced u to use berserker. asking for a refund because of a 10% nerf which is like nothing, is very childish sry.

how about a new weapon, like a whip that is aoe only. necro has the staff with the necro marks, so mes could have a whip that is aoe based and a mainhand pistol that has 1 aoe attack.
maybe we could change mantras into aoe skills and not the way they are atm. i mean real aoe that is ground targeted.
i would love to have less ai. our ai is the cause of most of our bugs, so maybe cutting the ai down and give us aoe would be great.

Vuh.1328:

Actual fixes or balance?
IF actual fixes:
1. Mesmer
2. Mesmer
Seriously the broken stupid AI with their annoying bugs are pretty darn gamebreaking.

For balance?:
1. Nerf Warrior’s ability to be so tanky yet deal so much damage while having alot of control.
2. Evade.. err i mean thief, god kitten rework the sword/x #3 to something not that is not a evade or slaugther the damage of them

yeah seriously fix the ai or simply redesign mesmer. its too much 1v1 and ai anyways. no light armor in any game should be a 1v1 pet class. give us aoe revamp ai, revamp all the glamours as u nerfed confusion into the ground already. remove mantras and replace them with aoe skills, fix the los bugs, fix ileap remove and replace mimic and moa.
if mesmers will get a whip as anew weapon, make it an aoe weapon like necro has with their staff. less single target

Supcutie.2538:

The short of it skcamow, is that between Helseth and I, we have tried what we and many believe to be every possible variation that we thought could be viable.

PU Shatter, PU condi, regular shatter, confounding shatter, mantra shatter, phantasm, gs/staff gs/s-f gs/s-t, gs/staff, lockdown, clone death, signets, bunker/bruiser, others I can’t think of off the top of my head.
We basically tried them all in high end team play and we talked about it back and forth. I’ve compared numbers/ideas/theorycrafting between team mates and many players I trust and respect. Mesmers just simply aren’t a good choice, when you can be replaced by a Thief if you don’t have one (or play Warrior, Ranger, Guardian – the sPvP Holy Trinity.)

I still believe that you can be on a winning team with a Mesmer (relating to what Helseth said about how the competition is bad enough that the shortfalls of Mesmer haven’t become as apparent as they should be), but it’s a handicap that you don’t need and often means not getting first place when instead you can pick a different class to avoid losing.

The idea that the community isn’t innovative has been thrown around and that the lack of innovation is the cause of Mesmers being not viable. But I can assure you, my team has tried to accommodate me, and I have kept an extremely open mind about potential builds and Mesmer roles, doubly confirmed by Helseth (who has specifically tried for an extended period to make Mesmer work in higher end team play after myself and the rest of us kind of abandoned) and a few other Mesmers that I think can adequately come to those conclusions. Helseth knows that Mesmer isn’t ideal, but that’s what he wants to play and he has been able to convince his team mates to let him continue trying.

Hopefully the March patch brings some new wind under the sails of Mesmers, because currently if you want an absolute tier 1 team composition, core requirements don’t include Mesmer.

I don’t mean to get off-topic from the original post, but I think you could argue this is somewhat related to motivation.

If you want to play Mesmer currently, play it in hot joins and solo queue, but don’t expect to be able to win everything.
If you want to win in team queue, learn Ranger, Warrior, Thief, or Guardian.

yep i gotta agree. in tpvp i tried almost every single build out there and i think tpvp is really not good on your mesmer.
i got the same problem in wvw though where i tried every single build and cant find anything that is very viable in zergfights. mes need aoe dmg and more team gameplay skills. we are too much of a 1v1 class atm and thats because of countless nerfs and too much ai dependency.

well the los bug got worse for sure i keep getting obstructed at the most random points where it shouldnt be obstructed like in open field fights and on stairs but the iwarden bug seems still the same. i have like a 10 percent chance it does dmg in a zerg with this bug

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Don’t worry, other professions have gamebreaking bugs since release.

yes so do we, but yours arent as gamebreaking that your core mecanic get crippled so bad u cant fight anymore. i know your necro bugs and they are terrible bugs, but it doesnt really healp u being jealous of others getting a fix. this bug pretty much mad it impossible to kill a thief on a mes.
your bugs cripple some of your gameplay but u other classes including mes have lots of bugs since release. ileap for example is one of them. the los issues and all that stuff we have simply gotten used to. but if your ds issues get fixed i wont be jealous, ill be happy it gets fixed.

i just want more aoe on my mes. i wanna be more than a veilbot. remember that drege turret in eb? yeah something like that that deals dmg and does a short daze(def shorter than that turret). u know like a real aoe for a light armor class.
i would give anything for aoe that is not ai based. i would love to be less ai, less 1v1, less dueling and a little more light armor class like.
or at least give us an option to spec for ai less aoe for wvw. (btw would be great if rangers could do that too so their pet is not the main thing for them in wvw. ai in general is very bad in wvw) it would be soo much fun if i could contribute more than just the stupid veil and tw in wvw. u can actually remove veil too. im starting to really dislike this skill.
u know like necros can build without having minions, mes and rangers should be able to fight without the ai. ai is great and very very powerful in spvp, but in wvw it is terrible.
if u guys bring out new weapons, i’d like an aoe weapon. no 1v1. aoe only. like the necro has the staff with all the marks, the mes needs something like that.

Heezdedjim.8902:

selan.8354:

a rallybot is someone that runs into a zergfight and gets killed while other team has downed players and pretty much rallies the whole zerg that was downed already. the big reason why zergbusters run tagless so people dont follow them.its the worst thing to have someone rally 8-10 players u downed already.

To extend the lavish display of my noobishness: I’m not that familiar with how the downed mechanics work, but I think what I understand from this is that if I run into a zerg and die, then does anyone who hit me while I was downed get rallied from that kill? Or are a certain number of enemy players rallied any time an enemy is killed near them?

Also, other than hanging back in ranged and trying to stick with my own zerg, and not get isolated so I get 5v1’ed and killed, what can I do to avoid being a rallybot, so that I will not be That Guy?

yes everyone that hit u will rally off u. so for example i go down and i hit like 5 player before, if one of them dies, i rally. u can also hit an npc while downed and if he dies u rally

Zoid.2568:

Ok let’s put it like this.

If a Ranger can be this good by maxing his skills:
———-

A Warrior can be this good by maxing his skills:
———————

And a Mesmer can be this godlike by maxing his skills:
——————————-

It’s not balanced and Mesmer need a nerf or a rework.

All classes should be able to be this good:
————————I
If you cross that line you are OP and need a nerf.
Also, if you are way below that line, you need a buff.

absolutely not true at all. i can go high toughness high power but so can war with pvt armor, so can becro, so can guard, so can ele and allllllll the other classes. but if i go full pu power, im a 1v1 only class, clone death traits are not good as i cant run condi with it.
and no there are no real wvw raid builds.
so instead of making complete false statements here, link me those builds and then lets talk about it. before u even try to defend your point u might wanna try to base them on actual facts and builds and traits u think are sooooo op.

Zoid.2568:

Nerf Mesmer. Why? They have too many options available to them without sacrificing anything. Other classes will have to sacrifice survival for damage or sacrifice damage for survival. Mesmer don’t have to. They can survive while doing damage.

OP class is OP. Nerf.

lol what a troll. no sacrifice?do u even know anything about this class?
what options? do u think pu isop in spvp? lol we cant hold or cap a point with that=sacrifice
u think phantasms are op? well we got less weapon power and if we want phantasms to deal even close as much dmg like rapidfire or heartseeker or any other class, we gotta spec for it=no pu
u want condi? u need clone death traits=pu=terrible at capping or holding points
u want high dmg=no vitality
go check the mesmer traits and l2p and then come back here and cry your eyes out if u still feel like u can put a great build together.

oh and try to fight in a zerg on your mes and give me that 30/30/30/30/30 build ya.

Heezdedjim.8902:

Stupid question, but this seems like the right thread to ask it in: What’s a rally bot?

a rallybot is someone that runs into a zergfight and gets killed while other team has downed players and pretty much rallies the whole zerg that was downed already. the big reason why zergbusters run tagless so people dont follow them.its the worst thing to have someone rally 8-10 players u downed already.

also check for the latest wvw builds

each class has different wvw builds. dont be a rallybot, so watch for that initial stun,imobilize spam and if u are new dont run berserker. go more tanky.

get on ts and learn the ropes
dont take supply from an upgrading keep
dont queue upgrades if u dont know what u are doing
talk to people on your server
learn how to use siege
get mastery in ram,supply mastery, ac mastery,and get applied fortitude and guard leechwith your rank points
get on the community ts

another reason to make new borderland maps.

Spicyhash.7605:

#EnjoyTheNerf

/15chars

yeah last time my guildie killed an anet dev with his d/d ele, thats when the nerfs to d/d started…

erm how can u not reach a mesmer?its not like the clones use killshots on u and massive guardian bubbles that push u back. this is an l2p issue. make a mesmer, play with it try out all weapons and then come back here.

thank u anet. thank u for fixing this.yay i can play my mesmer today :-) cookies for u!

captainteemo.6537:

Has anyone confirmed that clones dying when your target steaths is a bug or it’s intended?

hope it is a bug. if not our class is unviable in spvp and useless everywhere else

i think programming ai is very hard to pull off without bugs and i understand that. but then at least give the mes some aoe that is not ai based so when phantasms bug out we can at least still play our class until they fix it.
i kept dying today to thieves and thieves staelthing everyone and even more thieves. its annoying to ffel so powerless and useless rallybot. its bad enough already that we are veilbots.

this cant be implemented as it renders the mesmer useless unless this is anets atempt to fix iwarden and it backfired. it must be a bug and not done on purpose. u cant kill a thief or anything that goes into stealth if uyour main dmg comes from our stupid ai.
maybe just rework the whole class without ai and more aoe like gw1 mes was and u wont have sooooooooo many bugs.

MIrra.3604:

Buwahahahhahahhaa

So this is what it sounds like when Mesmer can no longer hide behind AI to wtfstomp other players.

no this is not about hiding. its about no dmg, no nothing because this is how our class works. i wish we had less ai, but anet nerfed everything else and now all we got is ai.take your hate speech somewhere else little kid.

yeah this needs to get fixed asap. so lets hope they are in the office soon and fix this its a terrible bug. i was so embarrassed during gvg today its not even funny!

Qaelyn.7612:

UnknownFreak.2805:

Remember the chaos storm bug… 18k-60k hits, that was gamebreaking and they fixed that quite fast. But now when our illusions are totally useless against anyone that is using stealth, totally normal…

It took weeks until that was fixed. Just sayin’.

what are u talking about? they fixed that in a few hours.

yeah just had a gvg and the thief was unkillable for me so i kept dying. gg anet. cant play mes with this

yeah at least a response would be nice. this is super gamebreaking

Fhaeris.9237:

selan.8354:

and this is funny because?……..?

Because they break something every patch. They just can’t leave mesmers alone.

lol yeah i made a joke in my guilds ts yesterday and today they are all laughing…..ugh soooooo annoying

and this is funny because?……..?

captainteemo.6537:

I just tried to recreate this. I can still call phants/clones and veil and walk away but they don’t die. Are you certain this happens consistently?

yeah that still works, but thats not the bug. the bug is if your target stealthes. boom no illusions no phantasms, nothing. 0 chance vs thief

got some more for u

obstructed
u cant hit oil buildside
u cant hit 90% of the people on the wall even if they are on the edge

los issue
cant hit anyone on bottom of stairs, u get obstructed everywhere phantasm goes into full cooldown
same issue on briges or on top of stairs or uneven terrain

blink
is bugged on stairs, bottom stairs on bridges on uneven terrain

roamzero.9486:

Warrior/Dp Thief/Spite Necro come close but I dont think Ive played anything quite as brokenly OP as a PU Mesmer. The main culprits are the ability to stack the best boons (Aegis/Regen/Prot) plus the insane pressure of scepter #2 and the pistol phantasm..

insane pressure from scepter? since when? scepter is suuuper slow. pistol phantasm is great though but with the current bug mesmer is completely useles vs everything, so i guess your mesmer problem has been solved!

so stupid had 2 thieves stealthing their friends over and over so all my illusions kept dying anet cmon fix this kitten already this is sooooo stupid it needs fix now i cant play because of it. 1 thief and its over cmon this is gamebreaking so fix it like noooow!!

roamzero.9486:

Well, at least I feel a lot less guilty running a pu mesmer.

im a wvw player so i never felt guilty using pu. i use pu power and in a zerg that pretty much the only build u can survive with the current cc spam meta. at least i got stunbreakers with that and can escape the 4 warriors stunning and rushing me.
but this bug is a joke seriously i hope this will be handled better then the still broken iwarden

Carighan.6758:

Does that trigger on-death traits? In which case that’s a serious buff versus thieves.

mo it doesnt they just dissappear like they do when the fight is over and this is actually a major nerf vs thieves. we got no defense or offense now vs thieves. im not even gonna try to go into spvp as this is so gamebreaking for me

its every build that is affected by this. its a complete joke and thieves know about thi bug and of course focus on u. easy kill as mes is not only powerless but also defenseless. and still not a single response yet. seriously do we need to port in the warrior forums so we can get a confirmation? is this gonna be another iwarden thing that will not get addressed or fixed?

yeah true but they took 2 days to fix the warrior bug that made leg specialist trigger all the time and perma immobilize everyone. but now this bug cripples the mesmer greatly but now we are stuck with this for hours already and no response.

erm sooo about that bug could we get a response. just so we know that it will get fixed. and iwarden is still bugged. cmon anet. pleaseeee!