Guild Wars 2

Curunen.8729:

Alissah.9281:

Curunen.8729:

As much as I’d love mesmer to be the focus, I can’t in good conscience put it above ranger or ele at the moment.

Here, drink this water, then go to the cdi thread again.

• gives a scentless, tasteless and colourless liquid containing 95% alcohol *

Now I’m too busy dying on the floor.

Thedenofsin.7340:

Then go back and move Mesmer to #1 slot. That’s the slot that will receive attention first.

What’s a mesmer? hic

lol no dont get drunk because u will accidently move the warrior to the first spot

oh well i voted but and really hope everyone does, as we badly need it.

yes, anet please revert the changes u did to it. the running after targets is simply not working. it spends more time running than anything else. or it just stands there.we didnt need any changes, it worked perfectly before.please revert!

1.mesmer(group play, raids, wvw, tpvp, we got too much dueling 1v1, too much ai, we need less ai less dueling and more aoe, plus we got a ton of bugs)
2.ranger(wvw, group play, ai problem again)
3. ele (spvp)

yeah targeting is terrible atm. when im standing on outer smc wall and wanna attack it autotargets the outer wall and never the players first…..oi. yeah and its always great when there is like a 60 man zerg infront of me and my autotargeting selects this really scary doe behind me…yeah this really threatening doe could have backstabbed me, thats why it gets targeted.

please anet fix our complete broken ai….revert them instead of just letting us wait for months and let us run around with a broken weapon. revert the change. simple!go back to the old iwarden coding if u cant fix it. or rework the whole mesmer, remove ai and give us something new, if u cant fix it. btw the illusion bug alreadu showed that mesmer is wayy too much depending on illusions. so fix them or rework us.

Suddo.5487:

It seems to me they were going for something like this, which personally, I would LOVE to have on my mesmer.
You can’t show off such epic concept art and not give us something so epic!

ohh nice. i mean if the new elite gives me some aoe dmg. that would be nice. please let it be not another single target thing. if it was something like lich form it could actually give us something that is aoe and doesnt require an illusion, because u are the illusion.

i love my necro in wvw. after maining a mesmer for 3.5k hours i was soo frustrated with the veilbot duty and made a necro. it was soo much funt that i leveled it in 4 days andgot back hooked to the game.its a lot of fun and i am always happy when i can play it when running with my guild.

Tchurrul.3902:

Hi guys!

hm…I havent play in a while and i came here to see whats going on with the professions.
I have to say im kind of disappointed. My favorite professions are ranger, ele and mesmer, and all i can see about them, at least in pvp, is that they need serious buffs. (mesmer not too much).

What i want to ask is: those classes are really in that bad place right now?
I was thinking about make a fresh start with a ele or a ranger. How are them in pve/pvp/WvW?

Thanks

ok so ranger is decent in spvp and tpvp. rangers do also well in wvw roaming, but in wvw raids they are terrible and unwanted. the pet dies way too fast and they need a whole trait overhaul.(and maybe more traits that support rangers when pet is dead)

ele:
they are in a very bad spot in spvp and tpvp due to the countless nerfs. d/d ele was almost nerfed to the ground. in wvw staff ele is the part of the meta. its one of the most played classes in raids right after war and guardian.

mes:
we are doing excellent in spvp. we lack group support and ways to cap and hold a point so we arent really wanted in tpvp. in wvw we are right next to the thief nr 1 roamer. in wvw raids we lack a lot though as all the nerfs destroyed non ai builds. ai is our doom in wvw as 90% of the shatters never hit the zerg, phantasms either bug out, get los issu or die right away. berserker is the most reliable phantasm in a zerg. there is barely any zerg builds and really your only job is to veil and portal golems and war/guard trains. ai=no dmg vs a zerg=no aoe=most traits to be useless= very little build diversity= terrible for zergs.

i think eles need a big buff in spvp, rangers need buffs too and mesmers need bug fixes for spvp. in wvw rangers and mesmers need major changes to support non ai builds and eles need not as much(maybe could get rtl unnerfed)

yeah im really tired of this bug. it got me killed quiet often. i hope anet start finally addressing all the bugs before they nerf stuff.

i use the wh to get some speedbuff when needed and also to keep up with my guildies. i also like that i can get lifeforce quickly with it when killing critters on the way or hitting players when passing by. wh 4 saved my life a couple of times though, so over all a pretty neat choice, but also depends on your playstyle.

yup tested both and they work fine. the tooltip just never changed back after they reverted the nerf.

hmm for roaming id recommend either pu power like osicats build
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Osicat-s-Hidden-Cat-Power-GS-PU/first

or pu condi like blackwater mesmer
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Build-The-Blackwater-Mesmer-Condition-WvW/first

with the cc meta id recommend an easier to master build. later on u could also try out some lockdown builds.
alsoplay around with weapons. i run pu power with soldier or ogre runes and use scepter/torch (my defensive weapon swap) and sword/pistol (my offensive weaponswap.
i use the ne signet of ether sometimes so i can get 2 pistolphantasms up but ether feast is way better healing

yeah the problem is when the target moves it wont do anything it also does nothing to gates, siege and all neutral objects. if an enemy is immobile it will attack, but there is a long delay.
it would be grwat if u guys could look at it asap. its been months since this was reported and even acknowledged by anet. revert the changes or fix it.

frifox.5283:

Various skills will go on cooldown after you swap them in.

• Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00eErlZAlAk

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this one annoys me the most. lets say i got to hide in a keep and used veil. finally im out of combat, but now i wanna swap to portal. i wanna swap my decoy that is not on cooldown out. and swoop portal there, but has a cooldown of 80 seconds same as veil. this screwed me over so many times and it happens every time.

bladeofky.3067:

Is this Mesmer POV enough for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSOweID-oO8

really fun video. u gotta do that with pu power mesmers sometime.

my veilbot duty on my mesmer in wvw brings me down a lot. cant wait for my guildleader to allow me to play my necro.
also lack of new maps in wvw, stale matchups, class imbalance in wvw, unnecessary nerfs/overbuffs

Muchacho.2390:

Mhh last time i did play, the lf regeneration from spectral armor didnt stop in ds…

But was it nerfed recently?

yeah i thought this was still working…or did they stealth nerf it? using spectral wall and wells atm so i didnt have a chance to test it. has anyone recently tested it?

Carl carrot.6374:

I have a level 30 necromancer and I don’t really like the minions when I chose this class I was expecting skeletons not zombie squirrels. Please make it that you can summon human skeletons.

yeah i agree those mutated teletubbies sure dont look like what i was expecting. i would have loved a bloodhound, ghosts, skeletons and also something flying.

i would like to have a circle as in a large fight u simply cant tell where the meteorshower is comingfrom, u dont know if its friendly or not and also an aoe that hits that hard out of the blue is not a good idea.
it will still hit everyone but at least people will have a chance to react. i mean i got crit by 6k meteorshower and all i saw was the meleetrain hitting our train and then bom booom boom my life started dropping like crazy. in a massive fight the lag also affects this issue as u dont see the meteorshower hits drop fast enough.
every other aoe has a circle, so this one would make sense.

can someone test if ether feast is bugged out? someone mentioned it was buggy since the patch….

Sandra Martino.3870:

A mesmer can walk, blink, stealth, dodge (heck why not fly as well?) away from a thief and attack him in order to summon clones again. Yes its annoying, but is it really unplayable?

No, those bugs are not making necromancers unplayable but so doesnt make the mesmer clone bug the class unplayable. They get unfair treatment for getting it fixed after 24h while we are still waiting.

ok, i think u really dont understand much about mesmers. it’s ok u might havent played the class, so ill try to explain why this bug makes me unable to kill a thief without illusions and why losing all of your illusions =mesmer with 0 viability.
believe me i wish i could use a non ai build, but the only one we had was glamour which we all know was nerfed into the ground.

here is all weapon skills that are affected:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phantasmal_Berserker 20 second cooldown
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phase_Retreat its a clone(important for shattering)
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ether_Clone clone
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phantasmal_Swordsman 20 second cooldown
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phantasmal_Warden (has been bugged for a very long time now and doesnt deal dmg 90% of the time)
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phantasmal_Duelist phantasm again
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phantasmal_Mage

every single weapon is affected and this is the main dmg dealer of those weapons
utilities:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Decoy 40 second cooldown
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_Images 45 second cooldown
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phantasmal_Defender 30 second cooldown
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phantasmal_Disenchanter 20 second cooldown

now not having illusions affects all shatter skills
so f1-f4 = useless unless traited with this:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Illusionary_Persona

if not a shatter build then u wont have this so all the traits that are about shattering are useless. so here are all traits that are about illusions and shatters:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Imbued_Diversion
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Illusionary_Invigoration
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Masterful_Reflection
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Confusing_Cry
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Precise_Wrack
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shattered_Strength
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Illusionary_Retribution
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vengeful_Images
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phantasmal_Healing
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vigorous_Revelation
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Persisting_Images
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Compounding_Celerity
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shattered_Conditions
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Restorative_Illusions
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rending_Shatter
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crippling_Dissipation
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shattered_Concentration
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sharper_Images
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Confusing_Combatants
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Deceptive_Evasion
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Illusionary_Defense

so every single time someone stealthed non of these are giving u anything. sooo how is that not gamebreaking. all of the above traits require either a shatter or illusions and u u cant shatter without illusions unless the trait is activated i mentioned above.

look at the cooldowns of phantasms and certain utilities. a thief was simply unkillable due to this bug!

Sandra Martino.3870:

Saturn.6591:

Are you even reading what people write?

Yes i do and i read that most of your comments are biased towards mesmers and tend to make fun of necromancer problems. In the necromancer subforums. Also ad hominem.

On top of that you say mesmers rely on illusions and got hit hard by that bug, while that is true necromancers suffer not only from the marks on downed state (even if intended) but also other gamebreaking bugs like 1s lockout from DS shift and you say just switch to another weapon.

erm i play a power necro and i am very well aware of the bugs.
the ds bug is very annoying and did get me killed many times.
but there is a way u can avoid being killed if u are careful when getting out of ds. we got a similar bug with blink that fails a lot of times and just moves u either into the middle of the zerg instead of past i or only one step to the side.

but the ds bug is not as terrible as the illusion bug was. mesmers have a phantasm in every weapon and lots of clones (clones and phantasms are illusions) and they are our main dmg dealers.
u need them for all shatter (4 abilities f1-f4)
u need them for condi
u need them for aoe dmg
u need them for defense
u need them for healing
u need them for condi cleanse
u need them for clone death
u need them for most of our traits

so here comes a thief, stealthes and poof all illusions gone…so we looose not just dmg, we lose almost everything. so this is gamebreaking.

the ds bug would be gamebreaking if for example u get hit by an immobilize and you get put out of ds.

im not saying the necro bugs are not bad. they are and they are annoying, but being mad that anet fixes a gamebreaking bug for the mesmers, is not ok.
i want them to fix them all for all classes, but i also want them to hot fix gamebreaking classbugs. even if the warrior gets affected by a nasty gamebreaking bug, i expect anet to fix it fast in a hot fix.

skcamow.3527:

Maybe selan can use the same tactics she used to get the recent illusion issue fixed.

It’s been a long time since we’ve seen a dev response on this topic.

An update to acknowledge this is still being actively investigated would be greatly appreciated by the mesmer community.

kk ill try my best…hmm maybe cupcakes this time and little black dress.XD

sry op but i dont believe u that u are a main mesmer. i think u are the thief that got mind wracked for 3k because u were pure glass.

no mesmer would actually come to the forum and be like:… hmm i am soo strong i can 1v2 3v1 am i op. how come this is so easy. sry fist off. shatter mesmer is not that easy to pull off. 2nd i play mes every day and i got over 3.6k hours on her and i know that shatterer is not easy to pull off. i know about pu being the best troll build ever and giving mes great survivabilities, but we are far to bugged out and too much depending on illusions to be op.
in wvw we are veilbots and in tpvp we are unwanted as we cant hold a point and btw good luck with your shatter build vs mm necro. lolololol

just saw this one. not sure if its ideas or something anet is working on…

http://pastebin.com/e9276EXr

Mesmer
• Phantasmal Mastermind—Illusion: Transform yourself into a large phantasm version of yourself that smacks enemies with illusionary hands. Your current illusions are destroyed upon transforming.

the mesmers have ton of bugs that are in the game since launch too. and one of the bugs affects our dmg greatly, we cant even hit unbuilt oil and some bugs affect our defensive skills.
i really dont get why u guys are reacting this jealous over a bug fix that was simply gamebreaking.
look at it this way if there was a bug that makes necros loos all life force when immobilized or so, then this would be gamebreaking for the necro and would need bugfixing in a hotfix too.
i play necro and am aware of the very annoying bugs and yes i really want them to be fixed asap. but they arent gamebreaking and to be honest no where nnear as bad as most of the mesmer bugs we have.
we have a ton of los bugs that put our main dmg dealers phantasms into full cooldown, we cant hit unbuilt oil, blink doesnt work on bridges and fails often on uneven terrain, fails on stairs, fails downhills, ileap is broken since launch and fails 60% of the time, phase retreat makes u stuck or can portal u under the map or into terrain, shatters fail, traits are bugged, clones dont show buffsiwarden is so broken that it doesnt attack most of the time and therfor makes an entire weapon useless, etc. so we got bugs too.

and btw most of us mesmers hate moa and want it replaced.im one of them moa is a stupid elite on a massive cooldown that barely works as u gotta get close to the target and if target moves or dodges it in full cooldown.
btw u can choose to use ai, we are forced to use ai!id rather have the necro aoe skills so i can be more than a veilbot….also the reason why i made a necro because in tired of beinu useless in wvw.

i actually enjoy playing my necro more than my mesmer atm. yes, they got stealth and some invulnerabilities, but overall the class lacks aoe and is forced into an ai class which is terrible in wvw.
i love being able to use my wells and marks and all aoe abilities on my necro and i get way more loot and kills out of that one.
but u are right, the necro lacks lots of defensive skills. ds is buggy and u cant even finish someone in ds. our downabilities are terrible too and the only way to get stability is ds and plague. the life force issue is not as big, but its annoying that u dont start off with some life force if u died after using life force up.
im still having fun with my power necro though. at least im not a stupid veilbot and can actually kill something and also i can choose to use ai ankitten ot forced to.

btw anet please fix our ai, ds and well bugs….its been a while.

Andele.1306:

Consume Conditions…

yes we need this phantasm to get fixed. its terrible and makes focus not worth taking with u.
revert the changes until u got a solution instead of just letting it sit there the way it is. it was working great before that.

Sir Morgan Malory.2069:

Mesmers are OP. Keep the nerfs coming. Clones are doing to much DPS and clones are far too spammable.

u know nothing about mesmers then. believe me id rather have an option to work without clones. id rather have aoe instead of ai, but illusions are in every weapon in every build and part of the mesmer. unless anet revamps the mesmer u wont see clones and hantasms dissapear.
btw as u seem to have no clue about our class
clones:hit u for like 30 and can inflic bleeding
phantasms: hit u hard according to your power

big difference

on no well of corruption is important i dont use corrupt boon i im power necro with wells so that one has to get fixed!!! …ugh darn bugs.

LumAnth.5124:

Dawdler.8521:

Curunen.8729:

I do believe Mesmer is more popular than engi, necro and ranger.

Overall? Not really. Well maybe engies. Rangers are still popular among the randoms in WvW and in general PvE, necros are definetly more common in WvW.

The things is, people that cannot endure the class quirks will move to another. Personally I’m thinking of abandoning my Mesmer every bloody night because of poor weapon choices in guild groups. Pick the sword, I cant really go effective damage (not in an elite guild, major differences in what you can do aggresivly), pick the gs, I suffer horrid targeting issues and pretty random performance (I think everyone knows what I’m talking about when you consider the Guardian staff :/ ).

What, people expect me to run around with my beer mug focus on full glamours, kindly dropping things on our glorious leaders request while completely gimping myself? “Veilbot drop here”, “Pullbot pull that”. Blind this, blind that, timewarp, nullfield, feedback, reflect everything, blargh! Even when we run with nearly 40 peeps on commander its often only 1-2 Mesmers (me included) and there’s only so much you can trait. Sometimes I even laugh a little inside at commanders seemingly expecting every mesmer to have portal ready in the middle of combat (just… what… ugh…).

It’s a tiring profession. Which is I’ve recently gone PU backline skirmisher alot even in guild groups. Yes, yes, I’m a horrible person and a bad Mesmer.

Stole the words right out if my keyboard lol!

I have commanders that are so ignorant sometimes it’s laughabl.
“reflects feed back here on their back line! "
" their stacking throw down your null field to get rid of their might!"
“I need a veil here in 3….2….1…”
“MESMER! we need that PORTAL NOW!”
(but…. I don’t have a 4th utility slot :-( )

Sometimes, just to be cruel, when a commander asks for Mesmer portals for their golem train, I just stand there and watch the golems move inch by inch.

when ever they wanna golemrush i swap to my necro. portal your stupid golems by yourself, oh u cant do that with your warrior, well thats too bad!

Dawdler.8521:

Curunen.8729:

I do believe Mesmer is more popular than engi, necro and ranger.

Overall? Not really. Well maybe engies. Rangers are still popular among the randoms in WvW and in general PvE, necros are definetly more common in WvW.

The things is, people that cannot endure the class quirks will move to another. Personally I’m thinking of abandoning my Mesmer every bloody night because of poor weapon choices in guild groups. Pick the sword, I cant really go effective damage (not in an elite guild, major differences in what you can do aggresivly), pick the gs, I suffer horrid targeting issues and pretty random performance (I think everyone knows what I’m talking about when you consider the Guardian staff :/ ).

What, people expect me to run around with my beer mug focus on full glamours, kindly dropping things on our glorious leaders request while completely gimping myself? “Veilbot drop here”, “Pullbot pull that”. Blind this, blind that, timewarp, nullfield, feedback, reflect everything, blargh! Even when we run with nearly 40 peeps on commander its often only 1-2 Mesmers (me included) and there’s only so much you can trait. Sometimes I even laugh a little inside at commanders seemingly expecting every mesmer to have portal ready in the middle of combat (just… what… ugh…).

It’s a tiring profession. Which is I’ve recently gone PU backline skirmisher alot even in guild groups. Yes, yes, I’m a horrible person and a bad Mesmer.

i experience the exact same frustration.
they want me to run focus, but i prefer torch as i can trait it to remove condis and pu power backline makes me at least survive. but its always pull them, tw now, veivielveilveil (well its kinda hard to veil at the perfect time as i a have to be right next to commander which means i am right in the front and b it has to be cast right away which is ometimes hard if im just silghtly behind or dont react quick enough.) then the want feedback and i am allowed to have blink.
and then they want me to portal? so i have to run out of combat and get a portal that cripples my defenses even more because veil still on cd and feedback too so i have to replace blink.
so they want me to trait for glamours , use pulls and have only blink to get me out of trouble and of course tw. so that leaves me with very little build variety and defenses.
so i went power pu and nope i dont use feedback and only equip focus if we are attacking a tower or keep where i have to pull people down.
im tired of this!

oh really. ill have to test that out. i can remember it usually ticks around 600

Mochann.5298:

Yah, and there’s a direct counter for Flat Damage, which is Toughness.

No, Conditions do need a nerf. If in PVE everyone is wearing Zerker, in WVW everyone is doing Condition. Why is PVE getting the nod here, but WvW as usual languishes in oblivion?

nope not true! almost everyone has switched from condi to power! conditions maybe good in 1v1 but in a zerg no way! war shouts, ele waters and the -40% food+ melandru combo makes condis not deal much dmg anyways.
u can cleanse condis, u cant cleanse a 11k backstab or can u. is there food that reduces critical hits dealt to u? i dont think so.
i have 3 different condi sets sitting in my back for my mesmer. i wouldnt even go condi with my necro. zergs clean this way to quick and war are almost immune to condis with all the cleanses.
the only ones having a bad time with condis are the classes that are barely represented in zergs.
u say there is a direct counter to crit dmg? sure i have 1800toughness on my mesmer(light armor) and i still get 8k backstabbed i get 11k killshotted, i get hit by 6k meteorshower, 10k fire grab. not even glamour confusion dmg back in the day was ever able to deal such dmg. so toughness is no counter to this.

yeah exactly iwarden was my favorite phantasm. id worked perfectly and now its not doing anything. why not just revert the change?

also i think we are too much depending on ai mes should get more options to not use ai as much. in wvw ai is really bad and thats the reason why u dont need mesmers for anything else than veil.
the obstructed bugs are sooo annoying and i cant hit anything on walla, cant hit unbuilt oil can barely hit cannons, phantasms go into full cooldown after an los bug and then all the ai dies before u can shatter them. so we really dont have much left than the gs autoattack and maybe 1 berserker that hits a few targets and maybe chaosstorm. everything else is too slow, bugged or too weak.
so if ai is soo hard to fix then give us new skills that are aoe and deal dmg.
other classes have issues with ai too like necro has a ton of minion bugs and ranger pet is awful.

Avigrus.2871:

Zacchary.6183:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Zacchary.6183:

Revealed completely turns them into mobile lootbags so I propose that thieves get protection on revealed to balance this.

I laughed. If you’re dying when not in stealth you’re obviously running something that has no vitality or toughness. I run apothecary, and a guildie runs Soldier’s. We don’t die out of stealth, and if we’re stealthing, we’re running from battle. Actually wear something that keeps your toughness and/or vitality up, you’ll die less.

A thief doesn’t invest in toughness or vitality because it does not help, unless of course they want to hit like a dry sponge.

Another thing, revealed nullifies a whole traitline and kills thief survivability so giving them a small cushion like kitten protection on revealed would balance all those hard counters.

Then join the club… this is the same issue that every class faces except with perma-stealth you can go full berserker and still have decent survivability.

The poor old Elementalist in berserker doesn’t have this luxury.

Buff other defensive traits for thieves and mesmers, but the perma-stealth is ridiculous.

mes doent have perma stealth its 4 stealthes:
veil(90 seconds cooldown,3sec stealth with pu)
massinvis(90 seconds cooldown, 6 seconds stealth with pu)
torch (if traited 24 seconds cooldown, 4 seconds stealth with pu)
decoy (40 seconds cooldown, 4 seconds stealth with pu)

the only one that happens more often is the torch one, but first off, not all pu mes carrie all 4 of these, second after decoy,veil and massinvis is used up, the only stealth left is the torch one, so there is no way a mesmer can perma stealth.

just fyi i cant go full berserker without a high risk, i dont have as many evades as a thief and also im a light armor class, plus most pu are condi based. im power pu with pvt gear as i fight in zergs, the only reason i use pu is because the torch removes condis and pu give me some protection wich i badly need in this terrible cc spam fest meta.
believe me id rather have less ai and more aoe on my mes. would make me more than a stupid veilbot or a roamer.
a glassy thief has a little less risk as the mesmer, but even with the thieves near perma stealth they gotta be careful. i destroy glassy thieves if they make a mistake.
i’d say give me stabiity and more viable options in wvw and u can have my stealth.
i used to not use stealth at all when there were more options for me.

Fhaeris.9237:

Mesmers and thieves need stealth to stay alive. That’s how Anet built those classes. I’m okay for toning down the stealth mechanics, but then you need to give something to those 2 classes to compensate the loss.
But those 2 classes only received nerfs so far, so you know where this is going.

yup agreed. well ill give u all my mesmer stealth if i get aoe dmg, bugs fixed, less ai and more ways to remove condis and immobilize and stability and all that. so im not a veilbot anymore and can actually survive yay!

honestly for me balance would be if all classes can be viable and useful in evry single game mode. i wouldnt mind war so much in wvw if my mesmer could be more than a veilbot for example. id complain a lot less if i had non ai aoe like i used to in wvw when glamour was viable. also a lot of the heavy nerfs done to ele and mesmers and rangers that are outdated by now as most of the classes received lots of buffs and changes.
for balance game modes have to be split like the used to be:
pve
spvp
wvw

oh best thing is smc outerwall. massive zerg infront of u and your autotargeting goes to every single destructable wall.

blink has the same issue. iget randomly rubberbanded around while blinking, it does sometimes not the full distance and then im stuck.cant move no nothing…right next to a giant zerg…..no fun….but /dance /sit works to get unstuck, but thats kinda hard to do in the middle of a zergfight.
in spvp i also get stuck in terrain quiet often with phaseretreat

yup agreed. or get all the main class people to brainstorm. i vote for pyro and osicat for mesmer.

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Phi Is Sly.1857:

Why is this getting hotfixed? when thier are 100’s of broken skills in the game what have been waiting a good part of a year for fixing. :S

Seriously, what’s wrong with you people?

You complain if they don’t fix it.
You complain if they do fix it.

cause whenever the mesmer gets something, people are mad. this bug was gamebreaking for every single mesmer build out there. every single one!
we got a lot of other bugs but we work around it. so can u guys with your bugs. lets say ds was not triggering anymore because of a bug, that would affect every single necro out there(yes im aware of the ds bug, but u can still use ds).this bug would have to get hotfixed too.
now if they break another class and then hotfix it,do i go into that thread and complain about my iwardenbug?no,cause im happy that anet fixes a bug!

which means they finally fixed the ac through the gate exploit then?

SilverWF.4789:

Blue.9510:

I’m afraid of ppl

Hey, mate, if you afraid of ppl reaction – why you even trying MMO? You know, everyone able to insult you even without WvW-reason. What you will ask then – hid nicknames at sPvP and PvE?

My opinion: afraid of insulting – do not play MMO.

its not about being afraid. its about wanting to have fun. and i like wvw and pvp. for me playing an mmo is about fun and gamplay with other people. i like making friends and being on ts with my guildies.
but i really cant stand people whispering me nasty things. its annoying and the whining is even worse. people that swapped servers and are now on the enemy team sometime write nasty things cause they know my name and just wanna troll.
in wvw something like this happens quiet often: if a person knows your name and then they steamroll for example your 10 people with 40+, then they feel the urge to troll after. so i would get whispers like u suck! u are such losers. and because im a girl ill get even nastier stuff.
so yeah u block them, but if everyone knows your name, then my blocking list would go up 100 people for sure,cause thats all u will hear.

wvw is very competitive and thats why people get really annoying with insults. spvp is very small compared to wvw and there u will face different people every day. in wvw u often end up with the same 2 servers, so yeah if 1 server hates another server then those 2 will troll and insult eachother even more.

of course there are great people out there. i had a bunch of duels and invited them to my party to talk about builds after, but this was my decision at that point and this is how i like it.

Marsares.2053:

1) Shatter Mesmers (still relatively common but have been nerfed constantly since launch)
2) Lock-Down Mesmers (very rare, although some lockdown elements are woven into some builds)
3) Mantra Mesmers (non-existent, Mantra are still really cumbersome)
4) Signet Mesmers (non-existent, Signets are horrible compared to other classes)
5) Glamour Mesmers (non-existent, got a double nerf-bat six months ago, never recovered)

Hell…. any Mesmer at serious tPvP level is UP and not really desired these days.

The only Mesmer that might be construed as somewhat OP is some forms of PU Mesmers, and then only when faced by people who have little clue on how to deal with them (i.e. don’t spam kill the clones, don’t hit scepter and get a torment when he tries to block you, don’t stand there like a muppet and let his conditions eat you up, etc).

Edit… with the stealth bug that got introduced in the new patch, also render phantasm Mesmers no longer viable.

yep true. the problem is our ai. this bug we had showed how ai is a mesmers core and thats the reason why we lack so much in tpvp and wvw. in wvw we lack aoe dmg since glamour nerf. i seriously tried every build out there. i got 6 different armor sets with different runes and none of them makes me more than a veilbot. i am running high toughness power pu atm so i can veil the guild and can survive the cc spam. thats it. the ones killing are the war,guardians and eles. u really dont need more than 1 mes.

i want my class to be reworked

Cufufalating.8479:

They are the only class which delivers on GW2’s original promise of every class being able to play every role in the game. They can be DPS, tank, support, condition, burst, sustain, whatever the hell you want.

They have some borderline OP builds and some arguably OP traits/skills, but thats not unique to warriors, so its just that they can do so much and be exactly what you need in any game mode its easy to look on them and think they are generally OP when really the problem is every other class is seriously lacking in certain game modes and playstyles.

exactly, war is only seen as op, because they can do it all while other classes seriously struggle in certain game modes:

ele: struggles in spvp, but is great in wvw
thief: godlike in spvp and tpvp, but wvw raids only a ganker
mesmer great in spvp, not good in tpvp due to lack of team support and ability to hold a point, veilbot in wvw no real wvw builds(lack of aoe)
ranger good in spvp and tpvp, most unwanted class in wvw raids due to pet issue
necro: great in spvp and tpvp(but problems with some bugs), lacks defensive abilities and combat speed in wvw, but still useful in wvw raids
engi: great in spvp and tpvp, not really wanted in wvw raids, but has some useful aoes
guardian: pretty good in all game modes, as far as i see, but i dont really play this class

ranger and mesmer need heavy rework for wvw raids(less ai more aoe dmg and group skills)
ele needs lots of help in spvp, d/d ele got overnerfed(i blame my guildie that killled the dev back when d/d was meta)
engi needs bugs fixed and there are many of them
necro needs defense and bug fixes, plus ds skills should be looked at
thief needs less burst dmg, but buffs in other areas so it need some rework for sure. people cry way too much about this class and yes it is frustrating to fight against them, but u cant simply nerf them into the ground and take away stealth, because thats really all they have.

in addition to that cc has to be reduced

cripple stacks too high
chilled stacks too high
knockdowns last too long and need an invul to knockdowns after target was knocked down
chain interrupts should not happen
immobilize should never stack ever
stuns should not last that long

wow swagg, nice work and u have a lot of intersting ideas.
i agree that thieves dmg that often comes out of stealth which offers 0 counterplay is way too high. but thief has this insane high dmg because of lack of defenses and hp. some of your ideas of course need tweaking and some nerfs are a little harsh, but u brough up some good points.
poeple whine about everything and yes thief is a super trolly class the way it is designed, but if people want thief nerfs, than thief needs buffs aswell. u cannot remove everything the thief is and not givem something in return.
some more options for aoe would be nice to see on a thief though. decrease the overall dmg is ok, give thieves more defensive and supportive group skills too and i like the additional knockdowns as it could help in wvw.

honestly i think ill have to write something like this up for my mes as i want my class to be reworked aswell.
less ai spam,less 1v1 stuff, more aoe more light armor class skills.

warrior,by far!
dont get me wrong i main a mesmer and u get to do smoe nice dmg, but problem with mes is ai and in large aoe heavy fights like bossfights our ai is dying quickly. the warrior can keep pressure on a n enemy while mesmer has to wait for more phantasms that are on cd. phantasms are buggy atm too and iwarden is useless since the bug.
so during the scarlet attacks wher lots of mobs and champion spawned, i got only a few bags out of it whereas on my lowbie war i got loot left and right. in those zergy mob fights it is hard to get credit for the kills on your mesmer as war takes them down very quickly.
but like mentioned on top our reflects are epic especially in dungeons. plus we got some nice support features on mes.