Guild Wars 2

Thurfir.6381:

Think positive.. now that PvE and WvW confusion are separate, maybe they will finally buff confusion (and F2) in PvE ;-) .

Toi bad we lost our only effective way to tag in WvW though..
(at least for conditions builds)

err i don’t really like pve …i really really tried to like it….but after being level 80 it started getting boring.

jportell.2197:

KnattyDreads.1856:

Pyroatheist.9031:

jportell.2197:

in spvp if you run scepter torch you are still very powerful in 1v1 battles…and are able to get 12 stacks up which can do quite a bit… But it is hard to maintain a consistent stack… which I wish they would address.

In sPvP, you can get 12 stacks up…for about 3 or 4 seconds maybe. It’s powerful if you get some idiots that attack through it, and useless if you fight anyone even slightly intelligent. I’ve run a confusion bomb build in pvp before. I ran it in all the beta weekends actually. It worked ok…because people had no idea what confusion was back then. Now….now its just patently useless.

And it will be equally useless in wvw now.

Dead serious, Even in tourneys you gotta be able to time it right but you can keep a constant 5 stacks between staff (10s Chaos armor) and the normal s/t attacks. Is this gonna screw over the glamour bomb builds… Yes… But if you fight anyone in a 1v1 they aren’t gonna have enough condi clear to keep up with you steady supply+spikes… I’m just as PO’d about this as anyone and don’t want to see the change come to fruition… But it will… and we can adapt…

Is the glamour build done… most likely but we still have a good thing with confusion. It’s not all complete doom and gloom.

yeah but wvw is where u face groups, lager groups to very large zergs. spvp and wvw is still very very very different from each other.so what builds are left that still can kep up with other classes?confusion is officially useless now so what uilds are there that can still help in wvw?

SpelignErrir.4263:

Entropy.4732:

Awful. Just awful. By nerfing confusion they destroyed the only real counter to the Zerg balls ruining WvW and weakened our class by a ton. Not to mention wasted my time. After all that grinding to get carrion armor and rabid trinkets… That’s like 80g down the drain. Now I gotta respec entirely. And ZERO changes to the traits? So glam traits are basically useless? Great. Very disappointing.

80g O_o geez, you got some really bad deals.

nope actually before we finally got the rabid gear to wvw we had to buy the khilborn stuff (precision/toughness/cond) and they are very expensive and yes u get some of these through temples but yup expensive stuff right there.

Pyroatheist.9031:

selan.8354:

none of the nerfs of other classes has affected them so they were forced to change everything.their old builds were still vial.

While technically true, you wouldn’t know it by reading the elementalist forums. Go over there, read a few threads, laugh heartily at them, and you’ll feel a bit better.

omg they are crying over this?yeah …makes me laugh

Pyroatheist.9031:

selan.8354:

now the mesmer is slowly turning into a weak warrior with no other skills than sword skills and a a few clones.

Again, I’m as kitten about this change as anyone else, and have explained in depth multiple times why. However, useless overexaggerative bullkitten like this is not helpful. Complain about what actually happened, not ridiculous stuff like that.

sry im just really upset and really broke atm so now idk how i will be able to get the gold for all this new stuff and i don’t know what build to get or anything and my abvssal scepter is not useful anymore. none of the nerfs of other classes has affected them so they were forced to change everything.their old builds were still vial.

i don’t wanna be forced to use sword and greatsword to deal at least a little dmg to players.i love my scepter but confusion was part of it so i am forced to play a new build that i don’t wanna play and have to relearn everything again and non of my skills im used to use are worth anything, my ascended gear is useless and have to spend like 60 to 80g to get the armor,the earrings, the weapons as i have to transmute EVERYTHING and this all because people QQ’d in forums about the ONLY condition we had. I speced into condition since i’ve started mesmer (which is 6 months gameplay 1700 hours)and of course everythng i worked for was towards condition. so 6months of grinding were worthless a waste of time and i should have never liked my character so i could at leat roll another class. now the mesmer is slowly turning into a weak warrior with no other skills than sword skills and a a few clones.

one question to anet though:

I have all rabid gear and even worked very very hard to get the ascended gear for my build. now my build is not vial at all anymore, so im being punished now and have to spend over 60g to get new sigils,runes, exotic armor and i have to start grinding for ascended gear all over again?oh and not to forget i worked had for the abyssal scepter too.

darkace.8925:

selan.8354:

Rabid armor as a mesmer is useless now!

Care to explain to me why rabid armor is useless to mesmers?

rabid is more for condition…which condition do we have left after confusion is useless now?most of the other builds im looking at are a complete ne set of armor,runes and sigils.

Pyroatheist.9031:

My point in my original post is that ragequitting the class and/or game is a massive overreaction to a nerf of one mechanic.

That being said, I vehemently disagree with this change to confusion. People make the argument that confusion is balanced in spvp, but ignore the issue that it is in fact useless in spvp. The reason you see no confusion builds there is that confusion damage is so low that it’s completely ignorable. Now, they’ve made this the same in wvw. They completely destroyed one set of Mesmer builds, severely damaged the strength and viability of most Mesmer condition builds, and strongly decreased the possible auxiliary damage from Mesmer shatter builds (all while claiming mesmers are in a good place in the actual Mesmer portion).

I really can’t overemphasize how bad of a move this is. Confusion used to be one of the best mechanics in gw2, because it actually punished poor play. Now, it is once again irrelevant. No one needs to care about the purple swirly because the purple swirly won’t do any damage to them. This was a horrible change, and I’m monumentally disappointed in the dev team for rolling this change out.

Just goes to show how balancing on the small, vocal, and unskilled population of this game leads to poor choices.

pretty much this.i do feel like ragequitting but i love my mesmer. i spent hours and hours of getting all the gear and all the ascended gear and all for nothing as anet destroyed all that!at least give mesmers other conditions that i can build up to. a mesmer should be able to have a condition build too!seriously another 60-80 gold for new sigils, runes and armor?how is that fair?

Entropy.4732:

Awful. Just awful. By nerfing confusion they destroyed the only real counter to the Zerg balls ruining WvW and weakened our class by a ton. Not to mention wasted my time. After all that grinding to get carrion armor and rabid trinkets… That’s like 80g down the drain. Now I gotta respec entirely. And ZERO changes to the traits? So glam traits are basically useless? Great. Very disappointing.

yeah my ascended gear is useless now and all the armor =80g is worthless now i am forced to buy new armoe with gold i dont have ty anet.Rabid armor as a mesmer is useless now!

Gadzooks.4687:

OP
Balanced
Underpowered

Those are the 3 states something can exist in when it comes to a game, especially pvp in a game.

Moving something down from “OP” doesnt automatically put it into the “Underpowered” category.

confusion was not op from mesmers, it was stronger from engis which have tons of other conditions they can use, a mesmer has none.

skcamow.3527:

I can see the point of glamour builds being much, much less viable but standard condition/confusion builds should still have some level of viability. I think it’s going to be a matter of playing and seeing how it goes. But yeah, a day or so after the patch I think we’ll have a pretty good idea if confusion based builds are worth sticking with. Keep in mind this applies to engi’s too.

yeah but engis have a ton of conditions left, we don’t. mesmers have nothing left. wvw and spvp is a whole different game.is a huge difference if u fight up to 10 enemies or 70+. now i have to be a shatter mesmer.Then anet needs to give us new conditions.

Draygo.9473:

Johje Holan.4607:

What? Well glad I was getting tired of playing my Mes anyway. Glamour builds just bit it.

Glamour builds work just fine in spvp… so they should still be fine. Just not mind-numbingly stupid op.

(full disclosure, I too have a glamour mes)

nope not really confusion doesn’t do dmg at all in spvp and glam builds have no other dmg than that.

Pyroatheist.9031:

selan.8354:

soooo what condition does a mesmer have left then?none…ty anet! oh well be looking for a new class then or a new game.

See ya

The confusion nerf is a poor choice. It makes confusion (and glamour builds) pretty much completely useless in wvw now, since confusion does effectively no damage. That being said, mesmers are far from broken…removing 1 condition doesn’t destroy a class.

well now im being forced to buy a whole set of new armor and forced to be a shatter mesmer which i don’t wanna be.i have no more condition dmg. no nothing. now i gotta safe a ton of gold to be able to play in wvw again as confusion is worth nothing and useless like it is in pvp.sry this just ruins it for me.

soooo what condition does a mesmer have left then?none…ty anet! oh well be looking for a new class then or a new game.

i agree that hills is very hard to take.once we breach inner, we never just storm inside right always as we know of all those deathraps that can be set up in the lordsroom.
hills has many many choke points, so be careful that u don’t get stuck in one of these.

The guild tag we always put up when commander steps out real quick: [BIAS]Back in a sec

Sunspots.9861:

Really? Come on, you say you want fights. A full server empties out after 20 minutes of contact. What’s going on?

well maybe if we weren’t siege capped, it would be more fun to stay in our BL.all we could throw down for 4 hours was golems.

ARM.3912:

selan.8354:

yeah probably the same spies that built 75 arrowcarts in garrison and then siege capped us in FA BL.people suiciding our golems,spreading false information, using similar names like the real commander to confuse other people, siege capping(we can’t put rams down or anything). seriously, this is taking out the fun for all of us and i know that other servers have the same problem, but this is getting out of hand!L2P and stop sabotaging.

That is a whole lot of excuses for losing.

excuse me?im not saying we are losing because of that.Yc has way more numbers than we do, so yes we are losing, but we have people sabotaging us.and ARM u are nr 1 troll in all the forums anyways so your comment is absolutely unnecessary here go troll somwhere else dude!

yeah probably the same spies that built 75 arrowcarts in garrison and then siege capped us in FA BL.people suiciding our golems,spreading false information, using similar names like the real commander to confuse other people, siege capping(we can’t put rams down or anything). seriously, this is taking out the fun for all of us and i know that other servers have the same problem, but this is getting out of hand!L2P and stop sabotaging.

kylia.4813:

Bas.7406:

Don’t worry the youtube version will be up this week.

I’ll be out of footage soon the way we are going with podcast releases

take the one from last night ;-)

Oozo.7856:

selan.8354:

Oozo.7856:

Yes, confusion is definitely the weakest condition. All of the confusion mesmers and engineers out there (and there are a lot of them) just play confusion builds because of how challenging it is for them to succeed with it. What noble souls to put themselves at such a disadvantage against other players.

Pure logic.

no u got that wrong. we play confusion only, because it’s the only condition we have and a lot of us like to apply conditions.
What do u want a mesmer to attack u with?
u guys don’t want clones, because u can’t handle it
u want to nerf confusion to the ground, because u can’t handle it
u want to nerf the mesmer pulls (temporal curtain), because u can’t handle it

soo our auto attacks are ridiculously weak, berserkers are broken mostly, we have no other conditions that we can stack, we can’t run away that fast, our invis traits are very very short followed by a huge cooldown, timewarp has been nerfed and is not viable anymore as the cooldown is huuuuge, most of our skills have enurmous cooldowns anyways.

So what do u guys want us to attack u with?Butterflies?…oh wait

I’m sorry but you have to be some special kind of bad to complain that mesmers are a weak class.

erm sorry i didn’t say that we are a weak class at all ,read please!Im talking about the confusion only spec!autoattacks are very weak there and the cooldowsn are very very long!NEVER did I say a mesmer is weak. idk where u got that from?I was responding to people saying how unbalanced and op we were and it’s not true.Confusion imo is fine as it is!

Tallis.5607:

Shrouded.6450:

Did all the CD guilds transfer over already?

Not everyone got tranferred yet, according to what someone told me earlier today, but most are on TC.

One of those guilds had their first ‘official WvW day on TC’ today (their words, not mine). They took all of FABL: each keep and tower was green.

They seemed nice, altough not very chatty in /map or /team, but I guess that’s shyness from being new, hehe.

yeah pretty easy with a zergball of 60+.Darn lag couldnt even move.

well he is an amazing commander that has no problem running without a tag when we are doing our secret missions :-) even if we are outnumbered, henever loses his cool and uses being outmanned actually against them. 20vs50 with him, no problem!

yup instead of listing what i don’t use here is what i use:

1feedback
2nullfield
3veil
4 portal
5tw

good stuff you are a very good player!

Reikou.7068:

Truth.2164:

ARM.3912:

His $60, he can play how he wants… and you probably deserve it.

I am pretty sure this is not the way ANet wants people to play. They will have to do something about this soon enough, its getting old.

I’m pretty sure that zerging everything is not the way ANet wants people to play. You still do it anyway.

If he gets banned, you should too.

erm nope this was actually unavoidable, but destroy everyones game experience byt doing such things, is not what anet intended and u guys know that.This whole spy and sabotaging thing is getting out of hand!

NINJAWARRIOR.2376:

Advise to game makers: Commander’s

Iff players dont like a commander maybe you can make a vote system,
when 20 players vote him, his commander logo will be blocked for 4 hours.

Make a setting that a maximum of 5 players in same guild can vote on the same commander.

All players that agree please response.

Maybe they can also make rule one vote a day for each account.

would cause a major exploit. u can have 20 people transfer to enemy server and have all commanders blocked!

yup player suiciding omegas and alphas is the new thing now.seriously, how low can those guys get?

Oozo.7856:

Yes, confusion is definitely the weakest condition. All of the confusion mesmers and engineers out there (and there are a lot of them) just play confusion builds because of how challenging it is for them to succeed with it. What noble souls to put themselves at such a disadvantage against other players.

Pure logic.

no u got that wrong. we play confusion only, because it’s the only condition we have and a lot of us like to apply conditions.
What do u want a mesmer to attack u with?
u guys don’t want clones, because u can’t handle it
u want to nerf confusion to the ground, because u can’t handle it
u want to nerf the mesmer pulls (temporal curtain), because u can’t handle it

soo our auto attacks are ridiculously weak, berserkers are broken mostly, we have no other conditions that we can stack, we can’t run away that fast, our invis traits are very very short followed by a huge cooldown, timewarp has been nerfed and is not viable anymore as the cooldown is huuuuge, most of our skills have enurmous cooldowns anyways.

So what do u guys want us to attack u with?Butterflies?…oh wait

Sickle.6502:

I personally think Mesmers are not suitable with their Mirrors+Confusion to be used in PvP or WvWvW – I would remove the class altogether and use a different one from GW1

I very much hope for a Paragon class in the future. Mesmers as they are now, are just ridiculously overpowered and need to be got rid of.

wow never read more nonsense in a comment like this before.we are not op like that, but yes it needs skill to handle a mesmer and it should be challenging.I mean challenge is what makes this game fun.I play a mesmer and get killed a lot of times too.

I think an in game moderator or so could make a change.someone u can address when things like this happen.It would be great to have someone in game to come and check.

Im at 25$ already :-)

erm depends on what time u normally play, but during oceanics FA has a lot of small groups running around.

Pervin.5036:

Well to throw out a WvW related pledge, for reset weekend this week (Friday to Sunday night midnight ET) I will donate 25 cents for every kill I get (playing a necro lets just say ranges between 600-1000 per day) and $5 for every yak killed.

As a side note, a lot of companies march charitable donations or some portion of them.

cool i’m gonna do the same.Maybe other servers will join aswell!Would be great!

Shrouded.6450:

You can spin it however you want.

There was no “spin” on it, she said it accurately. There were people arguing over that issue in that thread. People were aware of how loyal the DB guilds were, and most of em believe there’s no chance of em transferring over. Yet most of you seem to believe that the whole TC seem to support this.

Anyways, why do I get the feeling most people can’t get over this whole transfer deal eh “Fort Jaspenwood”? Since we’re all going down the memory lane here, does anyone recall the FA/CD/IOJ match?

well let me tell u this:i was in their ts when the decision was made and we did not contact them, IOJ contacted us! AVTR made a guild called [PRO] please join our ts or something like that and we got invited to their ts. 30min later we had transfers starting no gold involved. they were impressed with how we all worked together even though we had low population.

The next day all other FA guild were like OMG what happened?Our IOJ members that joined were awesome and we have formed a great community with them.

Ketharius.9018:

I lost respect for OG when my fresh level 80 Engi that I didn’t know how to play since I crafting leveled, and was in all sorts of mismatched Exotic gear. I first stepped into WvW and I was jumped my an Ele… he died. Party invite and it’s Bunzy with "eat s——you die now f—-ing f—. And then a thief from OG came out 2v1ning me as I ran, then my upleveled Ele buddy saved me at ~2k health and we won.

I was actually going “Oh, darn it! I got caught by OG, I’m dead now…” You know, falling for their Forum bravado and elite skills… I was disappointed.

yup sounds like good old OG.Always trolling and cussing people out.

Lanimal.6541:

neomccoy.2657:

Lanimal.6541:

Haldunius.7864:

CHIPS.6018:

Thesilentflute.8761:

War Machine blackgate wants you! Come play with us in T1 we have a grand community that rewards the efforts of all of our battle worn solders. If is great fights you seek look no further there are fights to be had against the mightiest of enemy in foo and many others. We have high skill base but low numbers with your guilds help there is nothing that could stop us our glory Awaits.

The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it.-Thucydides

Well you guys better be prepared to pay, a lot. A server (I won’t name which) is promising premium dollars for WM, RISE, CO (and maybe others) to head over. I am talking about crazy out of this world money here. But they said no since they didn’t want to leave their Kaineng brothers.

Thanks for staying all! ^^

Oh come on now. Such juicy drama and you won’t share?! We can play hangman or something to guess the server.

Through process of elimination all signs would point to SoR.

1. Its not BG because the poster talking about the gold gossip eliminated them basically directing us to ‘another server’.

2. I highly doubt JQ would pay more gold for more SEA guilds? They have the most insane SEA in NA by a long shot anyway, I do not think their SEA guilds would want to deal with even more queue times than they already have.

This leaves us with SoR who are coming close to competing with JQ and all they need is more SEA/European. Also they have recently upped their recruitment and managed to get AFS and Tsym so they are probably going all out.

or it could be a European T1 server…

Believe it or not TC posted in RE forum recruiting us. I find it funny or maybe just a troll I dont know.

When was this? I don’t think anyone in TC condones cross-server recruitment in the same tier. Do you mind telling us the nick of the guy who posted on the RE forums?

erm sry, but i know 3 guilds that received recruiting mails in game from tc.

lani.7431:

Evalana.5480:

Expunge.4926:

IRSyKo.5843:

Not sure why TC would want DB in the match.

KN=no NA
DB= No NA

No NA= Nothing to do.

When we were back in T3 ticking away at +500ish PPT everybody would get bored and log off. if you guys “focused FA” out of the tier like I hear about, you would be pretty bored.

Food for thought

I’m pretty sure the people advocating for forcing FA down are on the forums only, and think that DB will be more “civil” on the forums than FA is.

Wow – Have you SEEN DB’s matchup threads lately? They put us to shame…. lol

Nah it’s only cuz we are stuck with Mag who insist on trying to troll our Taiwanese guilds and our NA defending them. Cause everyone knows they rarely pop their heads into the forums let alone understand it. Btw do not think DB will be visiting T2 next week. Maybe we will take a trip up the next week. ;D

yup that sounds like the mag we know!congrats on your score.

u know that there are people hunting u down in wvw only for carrying a legendary right?

http://sittingonacouch.com/the-gw2-mesmer-podcast-mesmerized-special-lessons-from-a-wvwvw-commander/

Usagi.4835:

selan.8354:

I think u misunderstood him here.HE has no problems to die and keep running in over and over again.
Here is the thing though: I logged in yesterday around 6pm pst and we had 65 ppt. well, of course we tried to ninja towers, get garri back and all that, but every time we would even touch a tower, a 45+ if not more zerg came to destroy us. We were around 15-20 people.Believe me, he was there and we kept trying for 2 hours + before I started getting frustrated.

8 people try to take bay gate down and gets steamrolled by almost 40 players. We finally get woodhaven back, the whole entire zerg runs there and doesn’t even need to keep up the rams, no they pvdoor!

The part that frustrated me is when I get steamrolled over and over by a giant zerg that outnumbers us clearly and then all you read in chat is laugh emotes. If the fights are somewhat more balanced like 20+ vs 30 the fight actually gets fun, but 1 giant blob vs a much much smaller number get frustrating after a few hours believe me!

I think, in EB, a couple of nights ago, we were siege-capped because our lovely spy has upgraded our inner lord room rams to catapults. So we had no choice but to PvDoor gates down or build golems.

Also, if I find my chatbox spammed up with emotes from an enemy group, I turn off emotes and just ignore it.

oh dear, i remember those times when we always had siege cap because a spy built tons of siege at hidden places. Really really low of people doing such stuff.I would not accuse u guys of only pvdooring.I used this as an example that has happened many times.

Littlefeather.8623:

Unfortunately.5940:

When Guild Wars 2 becomes Zerg Wars 2 it just becomes boring. I’m personally not interested in running in a huge zergball just so you won´t be insta-gibbed by the other huge zergballs, so when that starts to happen i´m out, and the point where that becomes the only viable strategy has been coming sooner every day. It´s also a large part of the reason i never really play reset nights.

And whats important to you? Capping a sentinal or killing moa birds?

As a commander more = more chance of success. Now I personally dont care if I die 5000 times in a night, but for some reason a lot of people do care about their virtual character dieing…

With that being said, most people will abandon their commander when they wipe one time. So to make it easier on their little feelings for their character in a video game, yes I do roll with as much as I possible can, why? Well to keep people staying in the fight and not running away after we get wiped.

And the rest of people like you can go solo NPC guards or something, while the zerg can do someting useful.

I think u misunderstood him here.HE has no problems to die and keep running in over and over again.
Here is the thing though: I logged in yesterday around 6pm pst and we had 65 ppt. well, of course we tried to ninja towers, get garri back and all that, but every time we would even touch a tower, a 45+ if not more zerg came to destroy us. We were around 15-20 people.Believe me, he was there and we kept trying for 2 hours + before I started getting frustrated.

8 people try to take bay gate down and gets steamrolled by almost 40 players. We finally get woodhaven back, the whole entire zerg runs there and doesn’t even need to keep up the rams, no they pvdoor!

The part that frustrated me is when I get steamrolled over and over by a giant zerg that outnumbers us clearly and then all you read in chat is laugh emotes. If the fights are somewhat more balanced like 20+ vs 30 the fight actually gets fun, but 1 giant blob vs a much much smaller number get frustrating after a few hours believe me!

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Bleed- Typical Duration: 10-20 seconds. Dmg per stack: ~150. Number of stacks easily obtainable: 10-15, conditions for taking damage: none, typical cooldown of skills that apply: 0. Mass application: easy

Burn- Typical Duration: 1-2 minutes. Dmg per tick: ~2000, Conditions for taking damage: None. Cool down for skills that apply: None, constant uptime possible. Mass application: easy

Confusion- Typical duration: 5-8 seconds (10 second cap). Dmg per stack: ~300. Number of stacks easily obtainable: 5-8. Conditions for taking damage: Only take dmg on activated skills. Typical Cooldown of skills that apply: 30-60 seconds. Constant uptime NOT possible. Mass application, 1 specific build of 1 class: easy. Not possible otherwise.

Confusion is one of the weakest conditions in the game. Stupidity is what makes it useful.

Dmg was nerfed in sPvP because in 1v1 situations it is possible for mesmers to get 10-15 stacks on a single target which was OP for point holding since the enemy couldn’t do anything until help arrived and by then it was too late for them. With the abundance of condition removal and the mass zergs this is a non-issue in WvW.

ty, ty and ty again for clearing this up. You guys wanna berf confusion?well then all the other conditions should be set to the same level and cooldowns!

oh i like!kylia is a great commander and it’s fun running with him.His tactics always change and we have an awesome communication!

well it is a rumor nothing else so far and i am sure the rumor has been started by people that think confusion is OP.If Anet gives into this nonsense, i’d be very disappointed. Confusion is working as intended imo.

Take a look at our mesmer forums: it’s full of trolls and haters, people that people that just wanna spam buttons and kill everything with no problem.

people that think if they have more numbers, their zerg is unstoppable by lets say a guild that has around 10 glam mesmers 2 guardians and 2 necros or so(hmm doesn’t that sound familiar,I wonder which guild im talking abaoutXD)…and oh well gets destroyed over and over.
they don’t watch flanks, they pvdoor, they are used to just steamroll everything by mashing buttons, well the mesmer punishes them for exactly doing that.

I had 2 thieves trying to backstab me, well they attacked e from the back and kept spamming 22222, they didn’t even notice that i had already put down nullfield and veil before they attacked me and once they were visible i cast feedback while standing there.
They kept mashing buttons and didn’t even realize that i created a clone and phase retreated behind them and watched the confusion ticks till they were down. SRY guys but L2P.

Vera Minerva.1739:

Is the Wurm up?

EVERYONE to the grub!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Heinel.6548:

Max.8563:

confusion is the only counter to dodge

Confusion is not a counter to dodge. Immobilize is the condition that outright prevents you from performing a dodge.

People need to learn that confusion is itself an attack, you dodge the confusion application, not try to dodge after it is already applied. This goes with all other damaging condition abilities. Just because the condition sometimes doesn’t do damage doesn’t mean you should allow the opponent to apply it on you.

I’m also quite sure it is intended that confusion should punish defensive abilities, otherwise there’s no point to it when compared to straight up offensive conditions like bleed, poison and burning.

If they do nerf confusion though, I hope they’ll re-introduce energy denial and draining from GW1. Let mesmers drain endurance from their enemies.

agree with this. Also, if u step into a trap and dodge after u still get the bleeds and poison stacks without even using a skill.I think confusion is working as intended and for those crying for a nerf:pick any other class that can apply conditions. if they have a condition build and know how to use it, it will hurt your character the same way as a well speced confusion build does!

make sure u unlock port as early as u can as it is very useful in wvw, but pyro is right, u need to get a little tougher in order to be able to hide and then run past the guards and players to portal people in.Check out the mesmer forums to find the right build for yourself. Check out videos from kylia and Pyro, im in kylias guild and using the glam spec that pyro mentioned and it’s great for large scale fights.

Devilsmack.5736:

I really hope confusion build is not nerfedl It is incredibly useful in WvW. And to all those haters… learn to play your class instead of trying to nerf the others.

If you are killed easily, you are either:
1. unskilled in your class
2. traited wrong
3. better off playing Hello Kitty Online

watch out in hello kitty online is this duelist cat class, that is totally op and needs a nerf,because the ninja cat class can’t kill it with one hit.XD