Guild Wars 2

agreed: Anet nerfed glam mesmers so hard, that the viability is not there anymore. what they need to understand though is,:

-we DO NOT deal any other viable dmg (focus phantasm 4hits 1k dmg 230 per hit,auto attack 312 per hit),
-we can’t kill siege
-we have low HP
-glam fields all have long cooldowns(enemy can back off or stop autoattack, as we are on cd and our direct dmg hits like we noodles)
- once we down players with a glambomb…it takes AGES to finish’em and a lot of people can get back up.
-I got hit by multiple glamboms, and din’t die as i don’t spam buttons and my weapons are pretty slow,
-one entire traitline that is for condition mesmers got a major double nerf
-25 stacks last for a sec or less and 1 mesmer by himself can’t accomplish this
-the only very strong confusion build is glam, but we do give up soo much for it(no dps/900 attack power,long cooldowns, no clones on dodge, can’t kill siege, no retaliation, only 1 really viable shatter)
-engis were able to confuse way faster that us with smaller cd’s and they have a ton of other conditions that they can stack and their confusion dmg can’t be avoided like glamfields(if a nerf was required,then maybe make them stack a little slower)
-confusion can be avoided without doing dmg apart from shatter f2(long cd again) and scepter 3(which misses either all 3 attacks, or at least 1 of them)

the problem with this one is, that the dude on the rooftop can prevent capping. mesmers could pull him down, but some classes and builds will have a hard time with this one.

i think this has to be fixed as i am sure it’s not intended as certain classes can’t reach it

hmm what about the outmanned buff in your own bl, would automatically buff the guards and building siege costs less supply or something like that(1 player alone in a tower has to run 2-3 times to build an ac, which the zerg can destroy instantly wit aoes)?

Blude.6812:

respawns of mobs ,their ridulous numbers and aggro has been an underlying problem since day one and many comments/complaints have been made in many threads.
and BTW you ain’t seen nothing yet! It just gets stupid at the higher levels. LOL.

I try to draw them to me using ranged skills/weapons and work my way through them instead of a getting a a large mob on me at once. Of course you will have to avoid damage and be fast to avoid the respawns. And if you are just lvl’n new alts just avoid the areas or group wiith someone.

yeah wait till u get to cursed shore!

I’m a mesmer and as u are new and most likely haven’t played a mesmer yet, here a few tips and important infos when facing us:

Find the real mesmer:
- if he uses gs, he is the one who can throw the sword, his clones cant
-he moves around more often
-clones cannot dodge
- he usually backs off

things to be aware off:
mesmers can use stealth and will try to confuse you, so u attack one of their clones. each clone killed could add a condition on you. mesmers are a also very different from eachother depending on what eapon they use.

staff:ranged, great defenders and condition appliers(if traited)

gs: ranged, high dmg,strongest phantasm

scepter: medium ranged,condition based,deals lots of confusion(before nerf,now barely used), can block attacks

torch: more stealth,when stealth is used,causes blind and burning, phantasm causes retaliation and confusion,if in the right hands=biig ouch for u

sword:close combat, (main had and very common for power builds)makes mesmer invul for 2 sec, very fast attacks,mesmer can swap places with one of his clones whithout u noticing
(off hand), phantasm is pretty strong and attacks u very fast and another attack blocking skill
mesmers using sword most likely use blink to either evade u or get straight in your face to kill u.
also:sword usually=high dps,high crit, lotsa dmg

focus: temp curtain block your way, pulls u off cliffs or away from mesmer, can aslo be used to gain retaliation

pistol: strong phantasm, will daze and if traited stun u, phantasms attack are fast so watch out

= mesmers have multiple builds and each on of them will be like facing a whole new class:

Examples:

-mesmers that use immortal build: have retaliation,reflect projectiles and don’t shatter clones,high mobility

=phantasm builds are glasscannons, but watch out for those as their phantasms almost always crit hit u and deal massive dmg. they have a clone every time they dodge and their shatters hit u very hard to so try to dodge when u see clones running at u.

-shattercat builds are never the same as every mesmer has his own version of it. they usually have more hp and toughness(depending on armor choices)than phantasm builds. Extremely high mobility and really tough to beat in spvp…almost seems like they are all over the place.watch out for them jumping at u with one handed sword as blurred frenzy is pretty vicious.

glam mesmers (before nerf.): staff, scepter/focus:
they don’t deal direct dmg ..or its very low..like 200-300, they have high toughness. they usually cast only glamfields,1 on the ground (nullfield, which rips all your boons,cures the mesmers condition and if u enter it adds stacks of confusion on u) glam mesmers love to pull u through all they glam fields so u end up with 15-17 stacks most of the time.glamfields are also feedback,portals and veil.
if hit by confusion, do NOT spam buttons (the higher your stacks, the more dmg it deals and the ticks start. if u don’t hit a button, confusion doesn’t harm u.
it got nerfed down to 50 percent dmg though and barely anyone uses it anymore.

I hope this helps u to understand mesmers a little bit, when facing a mesmer, look at the weapons and know when to back off and when to push in.

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

I disagree with every suggestion that penalized people for grouping into a large group.

same.sry but there are guilds that like to play together and sometimes they have a lot of people, so why punish them? It’s called guildwars not family feud!

Zelulose.8695:

This is why I love mesmers. They have so many options and when perfected these builds can’t be killed by anyone but mesmer. <3 stun builds.

very true.even though i do miss the confusion dmg a lot, i like experimenting with new builds and kylia always comes up with something epic.

Deniara Devious.3948:

1. Thief should have the highest single target burst, mobility and ability to enter stealth on demand. According to Arenanet thief can decide when to disengage. Thus he sets the rules. As a counter to stealth Arenanet advertises AoE damage, yet some professions don’t have much any AoE (e.g. ranger) and at the same time Arenanet developers are vocally worried that AoE is too powerful and talk about nerfing it.

well yeah that is ridiculous and also, mesmer have very limited AOE as berserkes only get activated with a target and chaos storm is not really strong compared to other aoe.the only counter was our glam build that got nerfed to kitten…probably because it was a good counter for button spamming thieves….
and as for a builds vs zergs….well mesmers got a big downer in this area as glam was known for being a zergbuster….

jportell.2197:

Something that is very perturbing to me…. They nerfed confusion to sPvP levels in WvW because we are fighting players in WvW and whatever else bogus excuse they can come up with for hamstringing this condition….Yet certain other things that are excluded from sPvP are still allowed in WvW.
Higher Crit Chance in WvW
Higher Crit Damage in WvW
Ele’s/Guardians healing
Boon duration increases through food etc etc….

So why hamstring this one condition neutering an entire build for a class but allow thieves to run around with a 120% crit chance/damage? Is it really that fair?

yup very true it’s not fair but hey the dev’s have already proven, that they are not really good with balancing(look at ac’s…)

I vote for confusion being buffed again!!!!yaaaaaaaaay…erm i mean moa is such an amazing buff they gave us instead….we will turn zergs into an army of birds and shall rule the world!…..oooorr maybe not..

well the glam build was pretty much that. no direct dmg, but punishing mindless zergs that love to blob and button spam. and yes our class should have different ways to lock enemies down. confusion, stuns, daze,cripple,vulnerability and of course reflection. and believe me glam only dealt direct dmg if a projectile was reflected…i want my confusion back!

yeah the confusion nerf was over the top and turned a lot of builds into an nonviable mess…we are trying to adjust, but most mesmers had to switch to an entire new build+gear and a new playstyle that they arent used to, because some weapons are not good enough anymore. I don’t like all the qq’ing everywhere about everything that is strong.
each class has certain builds and skills, that can be extreemly strong in game if in the right hands. so whining over a strong attack and then getting kitten nerfed by that, destroys the fun for everyone sooner or later.
why not buffing other classes before nerfing everything? and btw ANET spvp is not the same as wvw and should be handled separately.

lol that would be kitten hilarious to watch!it would be epic!

hmm i just want queen jennas outfit and im happy :-)

ooh that must have been the super bunny…hmmm lets see if i can get a precrusor from it

PhelanDisturbed.1650:

I just don’t see many people buying these traps to use against a solo roaming thief, if that’s even possible.

actually i think we will see all watergates covered with these traps as permastealth thieves love to perma contest keeps and i might even will use them a little more often as i get annoyed with permastealth….but what i am really scarred of is the supplyremoving traps…..oi i can see he pain already

yeah in the forums thieves seem to get at least an answer from the dev’s.

ok, so my main is a mesmer and i gotta say. RTL has never really bothered me and i liked epic fights with eles. you guys are good with healing and i think its ok like that as each class should have something special that others can’t do aswell. I never thought that eles were a class that needed the most nerfs at all.
If someone would ask me which class needed a nerf and i had only 10 seconds to answer{eventhough i hate nerfs in general):Thief

I was or sort of still am a condition mesmer and confusion got nerfed to kitten. engineers could stack more confusion than us and still got tons of other conditions, mesmer is now left with nothing really viable in this area….i think confusion and clones are a mesmers special trait and an ele should have good heals and rtl shouldnt be nerfed only because thieves should be the most mobile class.

this whole nerf this, nerf that is destroying all the classes and why? because people come here to cry because they had a bad fight and got destroyed.

this whole last patch was an absolute disaster:

horrible nerfs, that destroyed entire builds that are not viable anymore
over buffing certain things (ac’s are a joke)
making thieves pemastealth again, but nerfing other random things

seriosly anet, i wsh you would take the last patch back and start over.

Make a kitten test server already!

noticed that too and cry of frustration doesnent give retaliation half the time.

bobross.5034:

The annoying thing about this nerf is that glam builds needed nerfing, but this didn’t really address the issue that needed nerfing, and it nerfed everyone else.

so why were glam builds op’d? Because they dont obey the aoe limitations that affect all other aoe skills. So this made them very powerful vs a large group of players. The consequence is 10 glam mesmers could keep 25 stacks of confusion on an entire zerg. That is op’d. Here’s the other problem…they still mostly can. This only does half the dmg now, but 25 stacks is nothing to sneeze at-because youll take dmg. the nerf has therefore hurt the random player who wants to play around with glam builds. it also hurts other condition builds, since confusion is always at least part of the ddamage for mesmer condi builds.

worse still, the nerf did nothing to stop groups of coordinated mesmers from continuing to abuse glam builds…because again, the issue is that it affects the whole zerg, and that hasnt changed. So the one thing the nerf was rightfully intended to stop, it doesnt. -and it negatively affects everyone else.

actually with the blinding befuddlement nerf, 25 staks are not easy to get at all and i havent gotten it since the nerf. highest i got was 17, which did not enough dmg. but think about it 10 necros can do even more dmg with all their wells and some of them do not hav an aoe cap either. 6 necros 2ballistas and 1 arrowcart were able to prevent an entire zerg to enter hills lordsroom. we destroyed the arrowcart and ballista, but the wells were almost like instadeath for us.
people can avoid massive confusion dmg by slowing down their attacks, if u get hit wit lots of bleeding or heavy burning dmg u take similar dmg. pure glamour mesmers do not do any other dmg apart from confusion, but changing the aoe cap on feedback would be hard, as it reflects projectiles and nullfield rips boons and cure conditions. i would have been ok with 15-25 percent nerf without th e blinding befuddlement nerf. 50 percent is wayyy over the top!

Midnightjade.3520:

I leveled Mesmer specifically for condition build in WvW and since the nerf it hasn’t really worked as well as before no matter how I tweak it, and so I have gone back to Shatter. Then I just defaulted back to my Guardian. I’ll give this a try but the confusion change really hit Mesmer incredibly hard.

Actually, over the last few days I haven’t even bothered to log on. Pretty annoyed at all the heavy handed changes to the point where I’d rather play Skyrim or read a book.

yeah i was not motivated to play either, thank god i am in a 85 percent mesmer guild and they all lifted me up a little.this confusion double nerf (50 percent +blinding befuddlement)really destroyed a lot for me.I always liked applying conditions, but necro is just not me at all….at least mesmer has many traits to play with, but my glam build was my favorite and i miss it and wish anet would change it back.

@ExZee: I understan your anger, believe i was there, but don’t be so harsh on the op that is trying to make use of the rabid gear…i still have mine too and am using it as i cannot just transmute everything and salvage it after working so hard for it. OP is trying to make the best out of this kittened up nerf!

LordByron.8369:

Aeolus.3615:

Frenk.5917:

This is why thief community is so harsh and desperated at the moment. We have already been nerfed and other nerfs are on the way, still silly people complain and whine about us.

Do you think we’re OP? Roll a thief and let’s see if we are really OP as you say. People in wvwvw die because of thieves because EVERY thief is built for dueling and 1v1 while 80% of the wvwvw people are built for group fights. In fact in sPvP we are the most “meh” class after warriors.

yes people try to solo thiefs in what they do best, even if atacker is not built for wvw support has i believe most arent,1vs1 is were thief masters so its common to loose there.

hey i have a thief…give me a button that says “i win 1vs1” because the class is meant to be the best 1vs1!!!

shouldn t work like that ._. anything strong needs counters…..thief doesnn t have any in roaming.
They had few that was removed from the game …..

yeah confusion was 1 of them.

KnattyDreads.1856:

Stop with the calls for nerfs. Stop, enough already. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

By the time you people calling for all these nerfs are finished this game will consist of one capture the flag map, one class, and the snowballs that do no damage but only knock you down.
Go back to minecraft, rethink your lives, get a happy meal for heaven’s sake. Or maybe get outside once in a while.

yeah agreed. the last nerfs were terrible for soo many for us. my mesmer build got hit sooo hard that i can’t use it anymore and i do not wish such a thing for ANY class. i feel bad for anyone who has to change their entire gear because a nerf. yes every class has something that is super strong, but they also have weaknesses vs other stuff.
a perma stealth thief will maybe run away a lot and is great to gank people, but in the middle of a zerg its different for him too.
our mesmer glamour build that got nerfed to kitten was strong vs zergs that spam buttons, but we had no other attacks than that ..our auto attacks would hit for 213…and those huuuuge cooldowns….plus yeah we could down a lot if we caught them by surprise but finishing them off took forever!
i’m tired of people calling for nerfs and dev’s listening to QQ’ers.

Ghanto.9784:

selan.8354:

ok i feel like this whole nerf this nerf that thing is going too far. why do u guys only want anet to nerf EVERY viable build and skill. how about we buff other classes instead of nerfing? the whole confusion nerf destroyed a ton of mesmer builds, now everyone has to regear and go to power builds. what if anet would have buffed the cleansing tools or would have added a condition removal for certain sigils or signets?

yes, thieves can get annoying and a pain to fight, but i do not agree on nerfing them as we already know they will get a massive hit with those new traps.
anet could add also a few new effects, that maybe reflect a critical hit once or something. nerfing everything will only lead to classes becoming boring and builds will become not viable anymore which i think is horrible.

What if AN had simply designed a distinct “aura” or effect of some kind that would have instantly notified a person who paid even a little attention that they were under the effect of confusion, and then if they had even half a brain they’d know that they needed to cleanse it? Nope. Apparently that wouldn’t have been dumbing things down enough for the care-bears AN is catering to.

hmm yeah maybe if the would make the purple cloud bigger around an enemies head would be a good thing. people wouldn’t fail to notice that they are confused. if new players would have understood the mechanics of confusion, we would have never been nerfed like this.i hope anet reconsiders…as for thieves i feel they are strong and permastealth can be annoying, but the good theives out there that don’t rely on stealth only, would get hit hard with a nerf and it would be pretty unfair for them too.

i’d rather see buffs and fixes(as almost every class still is plagued by bugs) than nerfs. also i feel spvp and wvw should not be treated as the same as in wvw a lot of spvpbuilds are not viable at al and a ton of wvw builds are useless in spvp.

:-) can’t wait to try the new ones all out.
i’m sure there will be a lot of “we’re about to do something epic!”
and “sooooo many lotbags!”

ok i feel like this whole nerf this nerf that thing is going too far. why do u guys only want anet to nerf EVERY viable build and skill. how about we buff other classes instead of nerfing? the whole confusion nerf destroyed a ton of mesmer builds, now everyone has to regear and go to power builds. what if anet would have buffed the cleansing tools or would have added a condition removal for certain sigils or signets?

yes, thieves can get annoying and a pain to fight, but i do not agree on nerfing them as we already know they will get a massive hit with those new traps.
anet could add also a few new effects, that maybe reflect a critical hit once or something. nerfing everything will only lead to classes becoming boring and builds will become not viable anymore which i think is horrible.

XII.9401:

Vanthian.9267:

PREFACE
I am not claiming to be pro nor be the best. Simply stating what happened and how I came to what I think.

Finally tried out the Mesmer profession in sPvP. I am fairly adept with all classes having played all of them at least to level 50; I currently have most at level 80. I only played Warrior in sPvP because I liked the challenge. I finally decided to toss in my hat because it is obvious that Warriors will be broken for still quite some time, so I decided to give the profession I thought would be the most OP a whirl.

I understand most people think D/D Elementalist is OP, but that is only true when in a organized group of 3 or more. It is the combined healing/condition clearing that makes them a problem. I could kill unskilled/low skilled Eles on my Warrior as well as many other classes up to skilled level, but I decided to give up the struggle with trying to best someone that is really skilled and go on to something I thought would be easier.

….And boy… did I ever choose right. How over powered can a class be? How has no one noticed how disgusting this is? After 50 games and only leveling to 80 I went in to sPvP and SOLOED a Bunker Guardian and condition Necromancer AT THE SAME TIME. You can call me a lair if you want, but I 1v2 and won with ease. I left the fight with 80% health. Granted I had no cool downs left, but I won. I stomped both of them. To add to the shame, I am full berserker and have at least ten times the ability to survive than my Warrior.

Now, I will say they were not the best out of the bunch I have ever played, but they were not the worst either. The Warrior profession has trouble enough with one person. Dear Balthazar, throw in another you are practically dead on the spot. I easily 1v1 and 1v2 now. I have only died so far to mob balls in hot join. After playing the Warrior for so long switching to Mesmer makes me feel like a Giant walking among flees.

It is just outrageous that a professions can be so good while other suffer horribly. I will most likely not stick with Mesmer as there is no challenge what so ever in killing anyone.

So, congratulations I guess on picking the clearly OP class in this game. You can try to defend it but there is a clear gap in professions and Mesmer is sitting very high.

Any mesmer that claims the class is not OP: I just ask him/her to join a duel with them playing as a warrior vs. a good mesmer. It’s funny seeing them panic and start making excuses to get out of it.

I understand, however, that some people need OP classes to carry them.

again warriors are the weakest class in spvp. any other class can seem op vs them. so your little troll comment is pretty useless here as u just insulted everyone that plays a mesmer especially the ones that play it since start. so why dont u go and troll somewhere else yeah?

Bazeleel.8219:

selan.8354:

Bazeleel.8219:

This thread makes me laugh so hard. Its amazing that when you guys actually start seeing your class balanced you instantly think, gosh we suck now. Try playing a warrior or a thief and get back to me. The amount of entitled QQ makes me laugh so hard.

Your confusion was nerfed for a reason….it was unbalanced as crap….learn to adapt and move on. Geeez.

erm rolled a thief , entered wvw with lvl 2, ran on the outside of the zerg and dowened people by spamming 2, rolled a warrior leveled up to 50, got a hold of hammer warrior fun, ran into zergs, hads always speed boosts and killed many people.the class got unbalanced as they took the only real condition we ever had and nerfed it to 50 percent. this affects a lot of builds, so we are loosing builds and all the invested gear.

let me give your permastealth heartseeker a staff instead of a dagger, how would that make u feel?

or a warrior can only use daggers?

so a mesmer should be able to have access to confusion that deals decent dmg like before.

glam mesmer chose to not deal much direct dmg in order to deal a lot of confusion dmg, which btw is avoidable by stopping to spam 1 or in your case 2 for heart seeker right?

I love the heartseaker spam comment. Those theifs have zero skill in this game at all. They wouldn’t know real combat if it slapped them on the face. If you are implying that spamming 2 is a legit spec then you clearly have a lot to learn about what actual thief players do.

yeah true the really good thieves i fought were not just spamming 2, they put up an awesome fight without permastealth or heartseeker and it felt chalenging and fun!

Vanthian.9267:

Arganthium.5638:

So, again, I’ll ask: what unit of measurement do you use to decide whether or not something is overpowered, since it is a relative term? What makes your unit of measurement any more correct than any other unit of measurement? Finally, why should we use your unit of measurement anyways?

You are the type of person who would argue for the sake of it. The unit is there and already explained as it has been since the beginning. You refuse to accept that the word defines itself and its own “measure” just being here. It has been stated multiple times…. the measure is against similar skills of the same design. To make this 100% clear, as it has already been stated twice now, SELkittenROOT CHANNELED SKILLS. By golly I do believe that is the type of skill Blurred Frenzy is in Guild Wars 2! It has been said by not just me, but another as well. The other poster was kind enough to link the other two said skill and explain, as he called, “lol-balancing” of the three. Enough is enough. You think you are trying to dig in some type of philosophical debate when the debate is already dead and over with some time ago on what your “measure unit” is for the skills.

From your perspective you are asking me why I think 5 inches is longer than 2 inches. When it has been stated multiple times that the 5 inches is longer than the 2. Yet, you continually seek to try and justify that I have no unit of measurement between the two. The two things are similar, as in they both are the measurement of length (in our real case we are talking about self root channels), but yet you refuse to accept that you can compare the two just with that simple understanding of the basic definition.

This is not college. You will not receive a A+ for trying to fluff a argument.

If you choose to try and “dig” some more, please do so in your own backyard as I grow tried of this.

ok dude first of all:
you are the one arguing here just for the sake of it. it seems like u just mgot frustrated with warrior in spvp which is clearly up compared to other classes in spvp

secondly
u attack and insult everyone in here, because they called u on your troll thread

3
u made a mesmer run a power build that is strong in spvp but not that great in wvw zergfights compared to other classes where btw the warior shines

4
u come into our foum, act like you are a mesmer expert which u are clearly not and expect people to agre with all the insults and theory based comments(and u claim it is op because u 2v1 and won which doesnt make a class op…check out the thief he can 4v1 and stay alive and kill)

5
sry but in here i feel like you are even below college level otherwise u wouldn’t have made such a thread!

awww im gonna miss the constant map chats:anyone porting in Jp? and [insert server name]is camping the jp.

yay this is like xmas …only better

i actually encounter a lot of thieves in spvp and of course wvw, but i prefer the ones in spvp as there is very little permastealth and a had some pretty epic duels with them. the thief community is not that bad, maybe u can get some footage from the SOAC tournament.

oh well obviously a troll that hopes that anet listenes to his whining in the forums and nerfs mesmers more,without even knowing ANYTHING about mesmers. uif 1 mesmer had access to all those skills at once our bar would have 3 stealth utilities 3 weaponswaps , arcane thievery, sigil of illsions and then a trait line 30/30/30/30/30.

it seems like he went online on wiki and checked out all the mesmer traits and thought wow OP. sry but it doesnt seem like u played it…. troll is troll and as a thief im sure he hates mesmers!LOL

Bazeleel.8219:

This thread makes me laugh so hard. Its amazing that when you guys actually start seeing your class balanced you instantly think, gosh we suck now. Try playing a warrior or a thief and get back to me. The amount of entitled QQ makes me laugh so hard.

Your confusion was nerfed for a reason….it was unbalanced as crap….learn to adapt and move on. Geeez.

erm rolled a thief , entered wvw with lvl 2, ran on the outside of the zerg and dowened people by spamming 2, rolled a warrior leveled up to 50, got a hold of hammer warrior fun, ran into zergs, hads always speed boosts and killed many people.the class got unbalanced as they took the only real condition we ever had and nerfed it to 50 percent. this affects a lot of builds, so we are loosing builds and all the invested gear.

let me give your permastealth heartseeker a staff instead of a dagger, how would that make u feel?

or a warrior can only use daggers?

so a mesmer should be able to have access to confusion that deals decent dmg like before.

glam mesmer chose to not deal much direct dmg in order to deal a lot of confusion dmg, which btw is avoidable by stopping to spam 1 or in your case 2 for heart seeker right?

Althdan.4967:

•.• wow thats probably an uneeded wall of text.

long story short:
•If they could handle it a puplic test realm, it would be very beneficial but may not be with in there means.
•Rather than just say, “OMG BUG!!!” gather evidence and post it in the appropriate place( I am not going to hold your hand and find out where/how). There are people who have done this in this thread and I applaud you
•If you are going to complain about them releasing new content instead of fixing bugs, find out there side
•If you don’t like them releasing new content instead of fixing bugs, don’t participate in the new content ( by participating repeatedly you are telling them you enjoy it). Unless you like eating a horrible tasting stake you didn’t pay for just because its free :P
•I tried to keep my troll side confined, but I am sure it may have shown itself a couple of times.
•you probably aren’t reading anymore so… (©¿©¬)
•great another wall of text

OMG I would love a test server! It would have prevented sooo many bugs that affect our gameplay for weeks if released with a new patch. confusion probably wouldn’t have been over nerfed either, thw whole arrowcart problem in wvw wouldn’t be ther, berserker would be reported as broken it also would help anet to test out new ideas and they could check if people like it or not.

LetoII.3782:

Jump puzzles, skritt, centaur and garrison town are all fluff taking up space in the bl’s.
I hope in future maps all of them are replaced with more space for wvw.

hmm maybe they should remoeve a few of the 300 kraits in the lake too…

darn looks like i gotta roll an superior ac now..ugh how am i gonna get him to level 80 fast?

sooo what do u want here? get mesmers even more nerfed? well to be quite honest, warriors are still very up in spvp. I play spvp with my guild a lot and guess what…engineer destroyed me over and over again! most of the engis where actually way stronger than we were
You have chosen a power build..well fine, but nerfing it with long cd’s would affect the other builds too!actually all the non power builds.

because of all QQ’ers like u they destroyed the glam mesmers build! Rabidgear and ascened gear all out of the window! What would u say if they would nerf your favorite class and build to the ground?what if they replaced warriors gs with a dagger and the hammer with a staff….you would be like : HEYYY I AM A WARRIOR and i need a hammer and GS, because i am a WARRIOR!

Well guess what and I AM A MESMERi have kitten CLONES and play MIND GAMES that CONFUSE the kitten out of enemies. I mean what do u expect from a mesmer? To deal no dmg because of clones?

Lightsbane.9012:

you clowns act like the shatter confusion build is the only mesmer build ever. ridiculous.

ok first of all i think you are rude and calling people clowns is not acceptable!no one said that shatterer was the only build. btw i was a glam mesmer and it breaks my heart to change my entire build, playstyle and gear!
so your comment is only here to offend people, so why don’t u go and troll somewhere else

and again @ OP play around with unique builds, not just plain shatterer, try mantras, immortal mesmer build and play around with skills u normally don’t use, maybe u will find something that encourages u again…and stick with the gear for now or just get an alt with bades or karma..

yup i go there and dc after 3 minutes, then come back, dc after 5 minutes, then again 3 minutes. then it lasts for like 10 and after dc’ing for 5-6 times and slowly starts to improve…but the lag is horrible!

at least your spies don’t make loud nioses, scream like a girl every 2 seconds, give false information, troll or cuss out people, use the same name like a commander and then try to get away with it or crash the whole Ts3 server after being kicked!

…welcome to T2, where golems like to walk off a cliff,garrison has 74 arrowcarts, 12 catas and 3 trebs(which leads to siege cap on the entire map and merchants are being hired when garrisons watergate is about to come down…

but hey, let’s not fight over who is a spy and who isnt, lets have fun guys!

yup got the same style and it seems pretty bugged out. but with my character that has darker brown it doesnt happen that often.

ugh seriously…this thread belongs into spvp section aaaaand we all know that this is a L2p problem.in spvp u gotta be very careful with the mesmers as most of them run power based build with gs.the berserker will hit u very hard….try to stun him, interrupthim, lock him down, dodge more often, dont just rush in and end up wasting you best attack on a clone..

and important aswell:

-go make a mesmer
-find a build with a lot of power
-go spvp
-check out the mesmer mecanics
…
realize, that it is not easy to play and realize that a mesmer doesen’t get 10 utility slots.also find out that the moa is an elite skill and has an enormous cooldown. so would u stop whining here!

sry but what i read here proofs that the QQ’er don’t know kitten about mesmers!

34 k?wow!what was he like a level 1 armorless thief?

:-( awww..don’t get me wrong, i am very very sad about the nerf too, but i love my mesmer too much to give her up even if im weak now until i get gold for an entire gear.

and btw, for all the qq’ers that wanted that nerf sooo bad…be careful what u wish for;-)

isendel.5049:

Blaine Tog.8304:

I wonder if Confusion would be easier to balance if it both had tick damage and also dealt damage upon enemy skill use.

That’s not confusion. That’s not the mesmer.

Mesmer was my favorite class in gw1 and i played with empathy and that other one which dealt damage upon casting, can’t remember now..return of flame or something like that..

In gw1, you had to stop immediately else you die. And that was fine..
My gw1 mesmer had NO direct damage skills, it was all about counter (monks, mainly). Confusion tries to do the same. Changing it would be changing the mesmer..

(My bro just said, seeing me reply to this: “the main problem is that a lot of people here doesn’t come from gw1 but from WoW, and therefor they are complete noobs that can’t play w/o their bladestorm”..so much truth in that..confusion is a mechanic new to the people who didn’t play gw1 but changing it is not the answer..they’ll get use to it, or die in the attemp)

omg so true gw1 mesmer was sooo epic but now in gw2 nobody wants to deal with anything that stops them from mashing buttons. That i though what a glam mesmer does..or did…we CHOOSE to not deal a lot of direct dmg, but punish the other players for mashing buttons. so if u look at it this way glam is not op like that…if we fail with our glam u can kill us easily plus we might down a lot of buttonmashers, but finishing them off takes a while. the 50 percent nerf takes the whole concept of a mesmer away….and it is kinda sad.

there is duels there all the time.i do not see anything wrong with it…and as ac’s rule the world right now(and i am really surprised that the arrow cart in garrison cannot shoot inner bay lord to death) a lot of people don’t wanna play for ppt… our bl is so broken atm that we dc like 4 times in 12 minutes. if there isnt a hot fix, people will just go for duels atm or gvg so instead of rageing here about something u do not WANT to understand u could just join in or go somewhere else!

and it seems like my pc almost overheats…never heard my fan going crazy like this. wvw is almost unplayable and the lags come and go and dc’ed all the time!

Carighan.6758:

If I had to think of some buffs, how about these:

• +100% Confusion damage in WvW
• -30s CD on Portal
• No more LoS limitation on Portal
• Remove the ICD of Regen -> Prot proc

Too early? :P

nah honestly just restore confusion again 50 was over the top nerf, if it was really needed 15-25 percent would have been somewhat ok even though glam build got nerfed with the blinding befuddlement change already. los should stay the way it is for portals as it could be used to exploit in wvw

…seems more like a fix than a buff…all the glam traits are still weak to use

Carighan.6758:

They should nerf Confusion tbh. Just now I took 180 damage every time I used a skill, that was hardly fair. I mean, I had to use my healing skill! Can you imagine that?

yeah actually the new bleeding thing hit a little harder for 200-400 omg anet should nerf that to 50 ! confusion though is still causing tooo much dmg you are right…maybe it should heal the enemy that would be truly confusing!

it is terrible we get steamrolled while 50 percent of our people dc. we cant defend we cant attack…..