Guild Wars 2

keenlam.4753:

I think Anet realizes mesmers ’ Achilles heel in the condi meta and working on it. It might take a while though. Null Field shorter CD is a start.

yep how about more cleansing skills and yeah confusion buff is always welcome… anet created the necro meta in wvw and all i see right now is red marks that instakill u. i mean confusion u could at least avaiod by backing off once hit with it and the stacks dissapear quickly… 20 marks however stay there for quite long. fear u all the time, u bleed , poison and pretty much every condition appart from confusion insta kills u. 5 to 10 necros=insta kill for mesmers with our weak cleansers.

confusion wasnt even half as bad as the current necro meta…oh well anet hates mesmers…

next patch= necro condition duration increased, adding torment to other marks and decrasing cd of marks

mesmer: fixing butterfly effects on shatter,fixing clone appearance, reducing cripple effect on shatter to 0.2 sec, reducing confusion dmg by another 15 percent, adding cleansers that have a 50 sec cd and adding more options for random conditions that u cannot really control instead of having a viable wvw condition would make us soooooo op.

errrm…no and no again and no again. id rather make a few bugs of the crappy armor and weapondrops that having stupid salvageable drops.

eithinan.9841:

timidobserver.7925:

WoW the TC fairweathers have really fled. We have two BLs that pretty much stay outmanned.

I see why many of the top commanders have started running tagless for the last couple of weeks.

?huh?

yeah erm wat?!? u are aware that tc is not in this matchup right?

hmm or maybe and alt f4 by accident(done that a few times as my ts button is on alt and if i shatter with f4 it happenes sometimes. also client crash, connection loss or like already mentioned queue pop….so i dont think that was a hack

Crawford.4135:

Sororita.3465:

There also seems to be a cheat where people reduce the cooldowns on their abilities, way shorter than the traits allow them too.

There has GOT to be a GM floating around in this game in WvW, or players are just going to stop playing this game. It was the downfall of AION, it’ll surely be the downfall of GW2.

yeah if the devs would actually actively play wvw, they would maybe learn a thing or two about those hacks…. but they dont.
the devs seem to be so busy with their esport mania, that they overbuff certain classes and overnerf others. yes, in spvp it will be balanced but the devs seem to be uninterested to actually balance wvw separately.
(and honestly, i think the ones that do play wvw, play a thief or a necro and hate mesmers and eles…and then also dislike engi and rangers…)

as for the cheats and hacks…

the zoomhack is pretty tough to fix as they would have to put a restriction on ac’s so they cant shoot from outside inside the courtyard(like an los), but that would cause a ton of bugs with ac’s that actually should reach there when gate is down or even ac’s placed inside not being able to kill players outside anymore. and we have also pets going inside the keep again through doors, so that shows that anet seems to have a hard time to fix that one.

hacks are in general hard to fix as they have to be caught first. idk how they are able to detect alterations like that….but please give us the option to report hacks as hacking in game.

Mordecai.6318:

Never have I seen a community complain about something so much. My god, this combo has an infinite amount of counters that multiple people have listed throughout this thread. Clearly this is everyone’s first MMO and first experience with a stealth mechanic because thieves are easily countered by every class.

Shut up and learn from your mistakes. The combat in this game is so simplistic compared to basically every MMO ever, yet people want their hands held because being a brainless ham is too easy.

says the thief that cried a couple of months ago about confusion, because he couldnt spam 2222222212222221 yeah sure an entire community needs to learn to play, because u are so awesome and so godlike that u can play any other class and kill any other class with no problems whatsoever.

SleepingDragon.1596:

Contiguous.1345:

‘To the victor the spoils’

dead = loser

Would be more fun if you killed someone while being “outnumbered”, you get to rob the dead person’s inventory. Whatever they had in inventory that they are carrying falls out for you to loot. Maybe that’ll punish and destroy them megablobs?

nah that would encourage megablobs even more to steamroll you just to get your weapons,food, siege and t6 mats

ok who killed the dolys again?last time u guys did that tc hated u for months haven u learned?

to the tc commander Mario, that tried to defend vale and got wiped 6-8 times in a row.ty very much for the lootbags! we actually kept leaving the circle so we could keep farming you. just to clear that up for you mario ;-) oh and ty again for the abyssal scepter u made for me when u were still on FA :-)

i only wish i could have a unique build again. i want more skills and a large diversity for the mesmers! thats why i loved glamour as it was very very different from shatterer and phantasm builds. and so was the immortal build. now everyone has to go power or improvise it feels like. but other classes are the same. most of the thieves only go permastealth as they dont feel powerful enough if they don’t…

MightyMicah.7451:

It’s interesting we should be having this conversation about making money in WvW because just today I looted a berserker’s mask which made me 8 gold. Clearly WvW isn’t quite as useless as people think for making money…

well 5 rares a week and maybe 1 exotic in 2 weeks is not enough fortifying costs 1.5 g and then there is food and superior siege and traps ….

Holm.7058:

Someone got ultimate dominator. You just have to work for it. Finally some achievements that are hard to get!

well good luck with capping stonemist and killing yaks for another 8 years!ultimate dominator is possible in higher tier with good goverage and a coordinated guils. im at 55k atm and think that might be possible, but the rest is ridiculous!

erm aslong as those skills can be achieved with wvw and not some random pve instant im ok with it.would love to get new skills for my mesmer

Aphrodyte.9354:

Boom.6148:

no mesmer nerf

Phantasmal healing = reduced to 2s from 5s

enjoy !

They really dislike inspiration

was this stealth nerfed?havent seen anything in the patch notes

is it Christmas yet? or maybe someone was high and forgot to put in the monthly mesmer nerf…..

scuzbutt.8140:

Pets can climb walls and attack siege, Not sure if thats intended or not but its been that way for a long time. Those names and “people” your seeing buy the gate are just clones and such. Again they usually appear inside the gate but dont really do much damage.

Also did you notice the one guy that did make it up inside is from ANET? Maybe he/she is there getting info on how these glitches are being done.

yeah just noticed that too

now thats ridiculus. i barely see this elite being used anyways. stop qq ing and start fighting

it’s not like u have to repair every 5 min or you must be doing something terribly wrong. repair costs arent that high if u compare it with the money u tak in when cping something or killing a zerg

so you are saying when i get off work, i get to play 1 hour max and then ill have to pve or spvp or just switch game? because u dont wanna be night capped? so i would have to join a eu server just because u don’t have coverage. how about u change server if it bothers u that much?

lol after respawning my character came out like this

Archon.6481:

selan.8354:

Oroibahazopi.9074:

You’re a mesmer, you can easily get away and/or force him off you because you have a lot of invulnerability and stealth

nope we dont unless traited. i do not use a torch or a sword for my build, there is no invul for me. or are u saying and entire class has to have the same build to be able to beat and actually kill a permastealth thief?

No. You adapt and use other things. Scepter for example has a block. If thief is stealth you can use that block. Once the “blocked” text, either dodge if you have the clone on dodge trait (thief will backstab clone and be revealed) or turn around and not take much damage.

And torch as a counter to thief is dumb, I’ll just perma stealth until your stealth runs out.

i use scepter and i am ok with all that u suggested, but if u didnt see the thief at all while running towards your group and yes i always look around me, none of your steps will help. u cannot counter what u havent seen.

plus we had to deal with permastealth thieves in keeps lordsroom that were way to fast and barely visible. yes we used stealthtraps, but we had to call more people in to mass aoe the entire inner and i took us quite some time to kill him. that should not be happening that 1 player can troll 15 people with permastealth and dont come with “oh well you guys must be horrible then and you guys need to learn to play and u guys suck if u need 15 people..and all that kitten!!!!”

problem with permastealth is that people in stealth are not only blessed with being invisible, but they are incredibly fast already and can pretty much troll forever with short cd’s, fast healing(if traited), condition removal, crits and that is the problem. a non permastealth thief can actually be fun to fight and is fine.

but anet also doesnt give a thief much choice atm as permastealth is the meta in wvw roaming and there arent many builds for them out there.

1 new wvw maps,new wvw stuff, new wvw everything
2 new armor skins
3 less dps ruling the game, more cc, more punishing skills(especially for mesmer as we are being almost forced to power builds now)

actually there is nr 4
guild halls/housing and guild stuff in general

Rainbow Sprint.3215:

selan.8354:

Louveepine.7630:

you spoiled the game Mesmers, just because it beats you in pvp?

In pve because of you, the Mesmers become useless …

same in wvw!you guys nerfed everything that is good or viable in zergs and anet keeps listening to all the qq about spvp!i dont care about spvp and never will, but now anet balances spvp and wvw the same and it should not be treated that way at all. bye bye condition builds in wvw.

in wvw u wont manage to keep phantasms up long enough to get all 3 up. there is arrowcart, trebs, catas, ballistas and an insane amount of conditions. our condition has been nerfed to the ground, because of qq and now other classes are op with no viable counter for us.

i dont even like the cheesy power phantasm build. i liked condition build, but thanks to people like u it is gone.

spvp ruins my whole game experience in wvw due to 1v1 balancing (torment? great in 1v1= useless in wvw). i used to have soo much fun in wvw, now its a grind and the nerfs are destroying every build out there. i really love this game, but anet keeps ruining the mesmer while not even trying to fix major bugs and inbalances of other classes and siege.all mesmers got over the past patches was nerfs and a few useless buffs at the wrong places. spvp,wvw and pve needs different balancing and therefor different balancing teams.

what really needs to happen to balance this game, is anet needs to split the skills up between Spvp skills and PvE/WvW skills. So PvEers can have our skills, and Spvp get their balance and we dont pay if one build is good for 1v1 that a zerker warrior cant beat it so it has to be nerfed.

agree with you very much on this.anet has to separate these again. they have to see that everyone changes their build acording to what part of the game they are playing. i mean glamour build worked in wvw, but was terrible in spvp due to the low confusion dmg and in pve it wasnt good at all either.i have different builds for spvp,wvw and pve. so the balance should be handled the same way.

Louveepine.7630:

you spoiled the game Mesmers, just because it beats you in pvp?

In pve because of you, the Mesmers become useless …

same in wvw!you guys nerfed everything that is good or viable in zergs and anet keeps listening to all the qq about spvp!i dont care about spvp and never will, but now anet balances spvp and wvw the same and it should not be treated that way at all. bye bye condition builds in wvw.

in wvw u wont manage to keep phantasms up long enough to get all 3 up. there is arrowcart, trebs, catas, ballistas and an insane amount of conditions. our condition has been nerfed to the ground, because of qq and now other classes are op with no viable counter for us.

i dont even like the cheesy power phantasm build. i liked condition build, but thanks to people like u it is gone.

spvp ruins my whole game experience in wvw due to 1v1 balancing (torment? great in 1v1= useless in wvw). i used to have soo much fun in wvw, now its a grind and the nerfs are destroying every build out there. i really love this game, but anet keeps ruining the mesmer while not even trying to fix major bugs and inbalances of other classes and siege.all mesmers got over the past patches was nerfs and a few useless buffs at the wrong places. spvp,wvw and pve needs different balancing and therefor different balancing teams.

i got mine at rank 127

oi is he on vacation?maybe he got burned out from being killed all the time!

on a serius note, that lord has been buggy for a while, the ring sometime shows up eventhough he is alive and the tower get capped even if he is alive sometimes too.

LumAnth.5124:

No love for the SUPER PUNISHING gw1 mesmer skills like Shame, Guilt, Mistrust and Diversion (gw1) ? :P

Mistrust: Next time enemy uses a skill besides Auto-attack, enemies nearby take (x) damage. (ends after 6 seconds)

Guilt: Next time foe uses a skill that targets a your allies [besides auto attack], 5 enemies nearby are (dazed?) and lose a boon. (ends after 6 seconds)

Shame: Next time foe uses a skill besides auto-attack, the skill takes an additional (10-20) seconds to recharge. (ends after 6 seconds)

…. oh and let their screens tint a little like DS, but with a fuchsia color so they know they have those on

Oh let the trolling mesmer begin!

woah i havent played gw1 but mesmer there sounds epic. that’s the kind of stuff i like and i think a mesmer should have similar skills in gw2. yeah there would be qq, but in every mmo i have played, there is skills that will lock u down or mess with your combo, but that’s what makes it fun too though.

Oroibahazopi.9074:

You’re a mesmer, you can easily get away and/or force him off you because you have a lot of invulnerability and stealth

nope we dont unless traited. i do not use a torch or a sword for my build, there is no invul for me. or are u saying and entire class has to have the same build to be able to beat and actually kill a permastealth thief?

Shadowblade.2103:

Please for the love of god nerf the god kitten perma-stealth build. It is such a pile of crap that I have to use stealth traps to kill a thief anymore. If you won’t nerf the build, then at least give some classes something that cancels out stealth. Im not talking crap AC skills and expensive traps, im talking like an actual skill or two.

agreed and while you are at it, give eles rtl buff and mesmers their confusion back!

Simonoly.4352:

Personally, I want to see more control and punishment mechanics given to the Mesmer and less phantasm/shatter based attacks. More active trickery and less passive external dps sources.

Also I would really like to see the Scepter reworked into a purely condition focused weapon.

very much this!confusion was one of them but anet nerfed it to the ground :-(……i am not much of a shatterbuild or pantasm build fan. if i wanted dps id go thief or warrior, not mesmer!

yeah can i get some purple on that mine are glitched with my armor….if i get them at least purple it would fix the glitch a little:-)

just give us our ability to stack conditions that actually do dmg back! and maybe one that is not 1v1 balanced.there is a ton of wvw mesmers out there.

nglcpyro.4906:

Since it seems the official mascot of TC is the Dolyak, and no idea what we (JQ) use the most, what’s the mascot for FA? This thread is a breath of fresh air to read as well!

quaggans for sure

<saving for the cattonic

storm.8746:

Dont stop fighting FA …just wished you guys had the coverage …but the few of you who are in eb are awesome …..JQ salutes you

ty fun fights with you guys tonight.

linfurong.9032:

Yo, can JQ just pick on TC for a little bit? We can’t keep ANYTHING.

well jq is in tc bl picking aswell…they are just very very focused on our keep in eb.fun fights though. we are outmanned on pretty much every map atm but oh well fa is used to it. great fights so far….and jq, ty for all the badges at our keep in eb.

i have been destroyed by a few classcannon eles with meteorshower lately, but they are no 1 man army at all. with a zerg though pretty powerful. but there is also necro meta in wvw and the thieves of course. there is also problems with other classes…
well anet always nerf one class while boosting an other which reats a big inbalance again. the nerfed confusion into oblivion while the boosted other classes. eles have had some pretty big nerfs too.

i was able to deal with a thief before the confusion nerf, now its pretty hard to evade his permastealth, perma spam, perma crits.

oh well that’s what happenes when anet makes a big tournament for spvp and balances all classes for spvp and treats wvw the same as spvp ( where i have way less problems with thieve or eles and rangers are actually very strong)

we need a balance team focusing on wvw.

Simonoly.4352:

They used feedback on you whilst you were using dagger storm……….yeah you found some very poor Mesmers ;-)

erm glam used to destroy a daggerstorm with confusion. feedback doesnt mean only reflecting projectiles if untraited though, maybe not the best utility to bring vs a thief. i agree though that mesmers have been hit hard and it has become quite hard to find many viable builds. the balancing is more and more becoming an spvp balance only, which is bad for pve and horrible for wvw.
but im optimistic as there are new skills coming soon im just mad that i have to do pve for it!ugh…

i havent changed my sceper even after the overnerf of confusion. it could use some love though, but i love it. the block is pretty nice and 3 still inflicts confusion eventhough not much anymore. but i have gotten so used and attached to it that i dont want to give it up.

sounds very much like an exploit

yes yes and yes again!it is so annoying that the badges only stack to 250 and fill up entire bank. same with dungeon tokens.

Thomas.1962:

Swap: change places with target enemy (maybe put in a 1sec immobilize).
skill turns into swap back: change places with target enemy again.
<< just don’t jump of a cliff when u switch back now >>

Shatter boon/condition dealing dmg to nearby enemies.

An elite phantasm would be nice! Maybe the doppelganger idea fits this category. Summoning 1 (or 2) clone(s) that mimics everything the caster does.

hahah that swap is epic, could cause a ton of qq in wvw though.

the new gear should be available for every playstyle. so if u are wvw based, make them available for badges. not ectos, ectos are very hard to obtain if u only play wvw and we dont make much gold compared to pve so for me it’s hard to get ascended gear that requires 50 ectos or more!
how about karma+badges, not laurals+ectos or badges+ectos?

i’m sry but i dont wanna grind in pve so i can keep up with the wvw meta

sry but everyone has the right to play this game the way they want and if they want a zerker build, why not? the problem is just that especially in pve anything that isnt based n dps is kinda meh….in wvw its the conditions that rule, zerker builds die quickly in a zerg fght.

yeah mesmer have been hit with the nerfbat quite hard. i am having less fun playing since they destroyed confusion, but fund ways to still have a sort of similar gameplay. its my guild that makes gw2 a fun experience.

yay this sounds awesome. new skills could open the door to many new builds for us….i am sure a ton of bugs and probably balance issues will come along with it but i am excited about this!
i would love to see a buff to confusion though for wvw.

Alissah.9281:

Taking “damage” from clones while not being able to hit the mesmer for 3 seconds is by no means overpowered.
There are counters to a mesmer using stealth, block for3 seconds or wahtever, when your block ends he comesout fo stealth and you can dodge his opener. Or you can just move far enough away so he cant open out of stealth… lots of counters imo.

looks like u don’t even know the difference between clones and phantasms, as clones don’t deal a great dmg to u. phantasms do hit u hard, especially the berserker,but look at ranger pets that knock u down, thieves hit u from stealth all the time, necros knock u down, fear u off and destroy u real quick if u arent careful.

u dont seem to know what u even are taking about …3seconds or soo…u come across to us like this:

so, err some mesmer killed me and i died more than once to him, he was like perma invis and then he like stealthed for like 3 sec and was like invul and had like clones destroy me when they run towards me and they are like totally killing me.. i like want to like ermmm ..i want to kill everything with button 1.

u know what …roll a thief!

nope, but got an ascended ring from it. pretty happy with it. haven’t heard of anyone gotten one yet either.

yep and with omnomberry ghost food buff u get those too.

wow actually i would prefer the glove version.the radiant armor pieces seem to look way different on each race and gender and i’ve seen a bunch of glitches today.

Arheundel.6451:

selan.8354:

Fenrir.5493:

Just to make all those thiefs that posted here feel pathetic showing the truth of this OP class:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qehdmw1xRjo

as much as i dont like thieves, this video shows great gameplay. the thief has talent and beat his opponents with skill.

What are you on about? What kind of skills do you need to spamm flanking strike?
-3,3,3,3,3,3-2,2,2,33…forever

There are just “few” dozen s/d thieves out there and accordingly to your comment, they’re all highly skilled and the rest obviously suck.
It’s like having a build where I can spamm burning retreat every 1.5s, if I could do that not even 10 of you would be able to touch me…

Anyway as suggestion to the OP:
- tPvP>hotjoin therefore Anet won’t balance s/d thieves in hotjoin
-In tPvP they can’t eveade through aoe coming from different sources, hence they die easily
-You need to create ground zero around you, it’s possible to do it with any profession

im not saying i think 111,2222, 333 spam is great, but this player did kite them around quite a bit and he was all over the place and hard to catch. the 222 spam with heart seeker is annoying as it deals a ton of dmg with no cd.
i dont like permastealth at all or cheesy backstab techniques, as that needs not much skill, but the player in this video is good thats all i meant to say.