Guild Wars 2

omg omg omg conditions omg!hell kitten yes!!!!ty anet!

….aaaaand another 900 deaths coming up for me due to falling XD

ok mighty, we get it u hate mesmers and u are only here hoping to get a nerf out of anet as u don’t seem to even try to see others point of view (others, that actually play a mesmer) u just list random things all mashed together and make it seem like every mesmer is carrying focus, gs, staff, and one handed sword and uses blink, portal,decoy, veil and feedback with traits that would look like 25/30/15/30/30.
try a mesmer in wvw, try different builds and then come back and try to actually discuss instead of accuse and vent. the mesmer forum is a peaceful and supportive community, that is very happy to help people out. try to respect that!

Kirec.2394:

Excalibur.9748:

Yes mesmer is the most OP class atm

Someone lost to a mesmer recently.

Edit: From a thief? Really?

nah the thieves just all come here, because of the upcoming balance patch and hope to get us nerfed or to prevent eventual buffs(hope for condition dmg and zerker fix)

Babayum.9204:

Coming from a mesmer this is quite laughable. Spec phantasm get 3 zerkers out, thiefs eats burst as soon as he leaves stealth from 3 zerkers everytime. If he keeps CnDing ur zerkers down just recast, thief wont be damaging you if he decides to kill ur phantasms

3 zerkers?erm… im not phantasm mesmer at all, but zerkers have a long enough cd for your thief to backstab him within seconds as most of the phantasm mesmers are glasscannons.

wvw keeps me here and of course my guild!

Jackums.3496:

The fact that some people believe a glass Mesmer is at all durable in competitive PvP situations is a testament to how they have no idea what they’re talking about.

Try your GC build in WvW. Roam for a while and see how many times you get one-shot by a Thief. See how many times you’re completely melted by a Warrior that knows how to target. See how often a D/D Ele just runs right over you with AoE and conditions.

^this very much!in wvw if you are glass, don’t even try to step out without an entire zerg on your side and even then u would probably melt in battle.step outside your spawn and “meet” glassthief=instant death.

Lue.6538:

“Pancake” – fall to your death 1000 times. I’d work for that.

with my horrible jp ability, i might would have gotten that achievement already XD

just got the holographic wings. they look good when standing, but when i run with my human mesmer it looks very off …i wish i could turn the flapping off…

Here is my human mesmer. a mix between profane, sorceress, feathered and winged armor

i got bored with pve very quickly as it seems the world is not living and breathing.its more a loop with no variety.
but wvw is my love. every day seems like challenge if you are not on a tier 1 server.we do have queues on reset, but we are outnumbered many times, which is where the fun for my guild and me starts. the more challenging , the better!if we run into a group that is outnumbering us and we manage to stand up to them, it is fun even if we sometimes get steamrolled.

purple would be epic!pleeeeease!!! oh yeah and black too

we all got dc’ed we couldnt log back in for quite some time. but yeah i disconnected quite a few times today.

yep thats it for me for farming. im not gonna buy zerker gear for farming holograms.i went into the high lv zone because they were empty and as i barely do pve i started exploring a little. and the wing i gave up on already.100k is ridiculous…

notebene.3190:

selan.8354:

mystery moa all the way

How does the mystery moa work? Is it just one of the other 4? If you pick it do you get a 75% chance of ‘not’ losing? Or is it some nameless, faceless contender because they couldn’t think of a 5th moa name, and it has a 20% chance like the rest? :|

it will be a random moa.sometimes it is a little one got pretty lucky with this one and mortt

love the moa race, like the event so far , but 100k for the wings is a little over the top…not really into the dragonball thing though

yeah in other games i used to spend tons of gems(or whatever currency it is) to get great armor skins.the more armor the better as people like to look differently from eachother. i also bought the profane right away and was hoping there was much more to come shortly, but i’ve been waiting so long now. more armor please!

mystery moa all the way

Chris.3290:

I take exception to the “Sos doesn’t want to attack” comment there. When we have only 10 people in TS and only 20 stacked on the commander, there isn’t much to attack with when all targets are T3 and brimming with ACs and Ballista.

Anyhow, let’s move the QQ back to our thread. Even if it was TC and their BFFs at FA against SoR, this would still be a blowout.

lol bff.hahahahahahahahahaha.tc and fa have been rivals forever …..check tc/fa history and always remember the guild tc made for us FA[good luck in tier 4] ;-)

XII.9401:

Boon duration was not nerfed in WvW.

Boon guardians are just out of control. I have no idea why they didn’t nerf it like they did in spvp to make it balanced.

Any kind of balance done in spvp should be carried into wvw to make it more fun and balanced. And yes..they can do that without affecting pve.

sorry but gotta disagree. using spvp balance in wvw is a bad idea in general. some things need to be fixed for spvp of course as certain traits in a 1v1 situation could almost 1 shot a person. wvw is different! i could never use my spvp build in wvw, as it is intended for 1 to 3 targets max.
phantasms die quickly in a zerg and with all the conditions and cc in wvw a lot of spvp builds arent as viable. and honestly, its ok to treat them differently as it is a complete different gameplay! it is a big mistake to treat wvw the same as spvp.
i mean look at the warrior in spvp and wvw…in spvp they get owned, but in wvw they are strong. in wvw u will need more toughness, more cleansers, more cc than in a small scale fight.

pve though should be treated differently anyways as most of the cc and conditions arent as viable as in pvp.

just a few pics
and they are all from the previous system.
bad matches happen, but if u only care about ppt u will miss out a looooooooooooot in wvw. in fa we are very often the underdog, but we enjoy ourselves too. yes, there are frustrating moments, but freaking out and seeing it as the end of the world is not gonna help.
we get smashed sometimes and runn around with 60ppt. do we still log on?yes, every day and we have fun.

(btw last pic is gonna show a matchup from last November… where fa started to rise)

Aevic.9675:

bobross.5034:

Aevic.9675:

You can’t expect me to participate in WvW when we conquer all of the map when I am able to play. This is just a slaughterfest for my server and is not fun. I didn’t even play last night like I usually do every night.

I assume you’re on SoR…I spent a few hours today winning back parts of TCBL from you guys, we had garrison, we were escorting yaks there, building it up…We tried to ninja hills unsuccessfuly and then made a solid play for bay. At each point we were outnumbered, but we hung in there. Then I log off and come back like an hour later, just in time to see garrison go down, and the entire map is green.

I know this is not fun for anyone…SoR gets to feel superior for like 2 seconds, before they realize that it’s not even tactics or player skill that are winning the games half the time, it’s just superior numbers.

I feel like they’ve just decided to take over maps in brief shifts and then quit, because it’s not fun for them either…as defending stuff and spawn camping are the only things to do.

Someone also mentioned allying ourselves with SoS…that’s not really an option either, They can barely manage to take a single tower on their own map much of the time. We pummeled them last week when they were matched with us and FA…now they have to deal with this. It really makes it less fun for everyone involved. This has nothing to do with their skill level either. When we were well matched with SoS in terms of numbers, we had some good battles…this just rarely happened because they don’t have the same wvw population as us, and much less than SoR.

I understand that this will possibly change a bit over time – but frankly where my server stands right now in the rankings, I imagine we’ll be going up against the top tier servers fairly often, and losing like this (constantly outnumbered 10-1) is really not the kind of play that I’m looking for.

No I am on FA we have a 50k lead in points right now. It’s boring.

and only because we have a lead that cannot be beaten doesnt end the week or does it? we found plenty of awesome battles all the time. u are bored? find the battles and there is plenty all over the place! if u don’t wanna be part of it and just chase after the ppt, fine then…

Mordicon.4530:

Dayra.7405:

Population count is based on who declared a world their home world.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Server-Populations/first#post703192

But this means that every inactive player rotting in the cellar of your server still counts for your population.

And if a server has more inactive than another you will see a difference everywhere. And as soon as you are a low ranked WvW server people interested in WvW will not join you.

Concerning WvW-balance ANet could only do the following:
- Reduce Map capacity, such that less people of a world fit into WvW and the queue on servers with many WvW-players become horrible. (They get a reason to change to low ranked servers)
- Change the World transfer costs such that WvW- lower ranked servers are cheaper for WvW-player (WvW Rank > X), e.g.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Free-transfers-to-small-pop-servers/2126651

But I am not sure if I would like it, even if the reduced map-capacity also means less skill laags.

In the end you cannot force people to join a server where they do not want to be

None of what your saying here even comes close to applying. After Tonight and we had probably the largest turn outs in history on our server for Wvw, and we still got Double teamed and face smashed all night. 9 hrs of this none stop, I would post some pics but I have lost interest at this point. I will not feed a dollar to this company. I speak for alot of people. Tonight sucked bad after the week we just had. We are done. Congrats Anet Good Job…

soooo you are giving up like this?
before fa got any transfers, we were getting smashed by tc,yb (and tc even mad a guild called FF[good luck in tier 4]), then cd came up and we got double teamed sometimes, then we were stuck with tc for weeks after weeks after weeks after weeks and even more weeks! and being only able to cover 1.5 bl and not even that, we kept losing and were red for ever. then tc moved up to t2 and we started getting new matchups and still lost a lot.

lots of people wouldn’t even log on anymore, but the ones that stayed started to build a stronger community, that was focusing on our bl and our strong defenses there impressed another servers guilds when we were matched up against tc again. they ended up joining us.
but to be honest the ones that stayed and kept fighting, had a blast even when we were outmanned. we had the most epic fights ever and now we have a great community and even if we get crushed sometimes, we are having fun.

so rage quitting is not the answer and whining doesn’t make your community stronger. focus on one bl first and forget ppt. even if u get steamrolled by a megazerg, we in fa see it still as a win if we manage to hold them off for some time.

General Secretary.3476:

When the system give most of us the most balanced matchup, meaning facing the same servers for the 14th week, people say the game is stale.

When the system add randomness and as a result some matchup will be unbalanced (server population is unbalanced inherently), people say the game is unbalanced and can’t see why randomness is introduced.

With the server population stabilized at this stage, you simply can’t have both (balanced & frequent server rotation)

So what actually do you want? You have to pick one.

And who said WvW matchups have to be balanced in the first place?

gotta say, i’d rather have the random matchups.
i see it as a chance for all of us getting more variety.yes it will be very unbalanced for some weeks, but i think anet is trying to think ahead….(or that’s maybe how i see it atm)
let’s say a tier 1 or 2 server keeps getting matched up with lower servers over and over and the fights are getting boring, a lot of guilds will switch servers once in a while to find a better match up. they will move back for another match up, but let’s face it, most of the people want to transfer to a higher tier and now we are stuck with monsterservers, then a bunch of tier 3 servers and a ton of extremely underpopulated servers.
with this change we might get a chance to slowly adjust that coverage problem.and they also are trying to work on new stuff for wvw, so maybe those future changes will make it not such a number based thing. we will see.

Hadan.2841:

look at all these forum warriors, at least you guys win your fights here!

yep just noticed….

just came here to say.hey ebay thanks for the epic fights tonight. u put up a kitten of a fight at garrison:-)

Crossplay.2067:

Doppleganker – Summons a phantasm in the image of the current target. The phantasm only auto attacks, however, any damage or condition applied to this phantasm will also effect the target.

Of course, if we’re going to have a phantasm elite, we need a clone one too, so…

Divine Wind – Summons 9 clones at once which will run at the target and shatter using Mind Wrack while leaving Chaos Storm in their wake.

9 clones mindwrack would 1 shot any other player if u are a powerbuild, but i like the doppelganker

fishergrip.4082:

natzmc.2895:

SOR member, I thought Tarnished Coast were at number 4 on the leader board, so really they should be putting up more of a fight, they are not far from your own tier. I wouldn’t feel to bad, it not like they were a bottom tier. Maybe instead of refusing to play wvw, invite them for gvg and maybe give some advice.

Not sure if you are new to the game or what, but the gap between Tier 1 and everyone else is huge.

second this.tc has a far bigger population than fa and there were weeks where we ran from 1 45man zerg into another 50 man zerg.sor is known for a massive popolation and coverage.

i still think the matchup system is not a complete failure. emry bay who we are facing atm, is giving us epic battles and has amazing defenses. they also dont just sit in the tower, they are on the field stacking and pushing. mag is also working hard, so yeah we take them seriously and are having fun.

oh well if we face sor…we might just bunker down in 1 tower and that will be all we have ;-)

hahaha epic stuff here!

-fixed a bug that made clones look like the mesmer that cast them
-fixed a bug where the butterflies didn’t appear properly
-timewarp now properly applies 2 seconds of haste and has the proper cooldown of 360 seconds

before being all negative about it,let’s see what changes are being made. but i think a test server would be an important thing, as problems like ac change and oil making people invulnerable, could be avoided like that. other than that i am pretty excited.

i know it can be hard facing a server that has way more coverage than u. I’ve been on FA since start and i remember when we were facing TC in tier 3 for the first time we had a hard time and over the weeks tc had bigger numbers that were increasing. we had enough people to cover like our own bl and a little of eb and that was it.

well, we kept fighting and a lot of players didnt bother to fight anymore, because they were discouraged, but the people that didn’t give up grew stronger and improved their tactics. and i gotta say, i had the most fun during that time. we got lots of transfers later on, because other servers were impressed with the way we fought for our bl, so yeah things changed, but we still have the spirit of an underdog server(and we sometimes still are;-).

what i am trying to say is, that even if a matchup is overwhelming, because u don’t have the numbers, u shouldn’t ragequit. work on your tactics, find stuff u CAN do, siege and bunker up,[ut someone on the watergate(i used to guard that gate for hours and was able to fight off lots of golemrushes.

when facing db, we had barely coverage around sea time and their sea crew is huge and sometime we were like 8 people defending our last keep(garrison) and we managed to bunker up for hours and eventhough we lost it after 3 hours, we were proud and saw it as a good defense.

i know u wanna give up when outnumbered 5:1, but situations make u grow as a community if u stay strong. take it as a challenge and try to make the best out of it.if we are facing bg,jq or SOR…. oh well, a new challange and way to improve our fighting techniques.

some pretty useful tips in this podcast.

http://sittingonacouch.com/the-gw2-mesmer-podcast-mesmerized-special-lessons-from-a-wvwvw-commander/

http://sittingonacouch.com/the-gw2-mesmer-podcast-mesmerized-special-lessons-from-a-wvwvw-commander-2/

Jinks.2057:

I’m on Ebay and quite frankly Im pretty kittening stoked right now to be outmanned and outgunned in T3 vs FA/Mag.

Speak for yourselves b/c we here at Ebay know we gonna get a beat down….but were gonna kittening enjoy it.

like the spirit. we FA don’t want u guys to give up. we like fights and are used to hard work. believe it or not but u guys push pretty hard and u don’t run:-)
let’s have fun still and u know FA is used to be the underdog so we know the feeling, just don’t give up.

erm i’d say they would get owned pretty bad…but hey if i walk into spvp with my wvw build….i’ll get owned even worse..so it works both ways.
but @ op we are REAL pvp’ers, but we play a different game!spvp players are not automatically the better pvp players. a wvw player that learned to survive in the middle of zergs, can do great dmg in spvp with the right build.

actually I really like random matchups.this time my jaw dropped when i saw that we are facing eb and mag, but hey we are having fun. for those servers that are used to be dominating everyone, it will be good to face an enemy that is dominating them and for us that were challenged every week with being outnumbered a lot of times, a week with lower tier severs is good fun.
gotta say i have seen some pretty epic defenses in our matchup. so we still can learn from lower tiers aswell.

KStudios.2850:

selan.8354:

KStudios.2850:

Yahooo! They snagged us a pair of whoppers this match-up! Pinch me I’m dreamin’! Yay, we’re red too!

Now, down to business. Which one of you two monster servers is gonna be first to eat my face?! Want fries with that? Zesty ranch or honey mustard sauce?

(Yeah yeah, I know. Same intro from the duplicate match thread that got closed. I been gipped and don’t like quoting myself! )

lol no thanks im vegetarian.XD
but hey gotta say at the beginning of the reset, u guys held out quite well. love to see how well both of u fight in open field and during siegeing. as a t2 server for weeeeeeks fighting mega zergs of 50 this is a breeze of fresh air and an awesome opportunity to have some good fights.

Lol! That’s okay, you got beat to it I think anyway. Some have even came back for 3rds. You FA guys are rolling with some large posses. Only FA roamer I found thus far was a thief and he wasn’t interested. We saluted and went our separate ways.

well usually we would get hit pretty hard by this time….after db,kn and tc matchups over and over, we are kinda used to run in bigger groups, but don’t worrie our small groups will come out to play soon.:-) fa oceanics love great fights.

KStudios.2850:

Yahooo! They snagged us a pair of whoppers this match-up! Pinch me I’m dreamin’! Yay, we’re red too!

Now, down to business. Which one of you two monster servers is gonna be first to eat my face?! Want fries with that? Zesty ranch or honey mustard sauce?

(Yeah yeah, I know. Same intro from the duplicate match thread that got closed. I been gipped and don’t like quoting myself! )

lol no thanks im vegetarian.XD
but hey gotta say at the beginning of the reset, u guys held out quite well. love to see how well both of u fight in open field and during siegeing. as a t2 server for weeeeeeks fighting mega zergs of 50 this is a breeze of fresh air and an awesome opportunity to have some good fights.

adoslaw.7091:

selan.8354:

2 find a commander that has a lot of followers and run with the group

Because blobs are fun…

i don’t run with zergs,but to learn the ropes u need to see how others are playing wvw. it helped me to understand wvw better when i started.and following a good commander is great.never said i support blobs.

1 new maps,changing maps
2 room for new builds,skills
3 new upgrades
4 smc shouldnt be that easy to take(why on earth is the lord not on the top floor?)
5 stop the overnerfing and overbuffing. all the nerfs destroyed builds and the cry for other nerfs will get louder and louder

6 stop treating spvp and wvw as the same it really isnt

hmm few important things

1 DO NOT buy upgrades if u don’t know what u are doing.there is always a certain order to follow and if keep is under attack while u have no supply, because someone hired merchants is no fun at all.

2 find a commander that has a lot of followers and run with the group

3 most of the servers have Teamspeak, so that one will help u a lot.

4 dont take supply from a keep or tower if it is upgrading or unupgraded.u should always have some on u to build siege and repair,so go get them from the camps

5 don’t repair the walls with keep supply.don’t wast supply if it is being trebbed.go get supply at camp and help building countertreb or ac

just a few things to look out for.

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

I hate that answer, “You gotta understand your opponent.” Enough of the mind reading mechanic. One shouldn’t be required to play and understand every profession in a game. They should only have to know and understand their chosen profession. Confusion damage/lock down is dead after the nerf’s, that simple. If I am going to invest time understanding what other people might do, I may as well spend my time trying to bend spoons with the power of my mind. At any given stage a player may just decide to log out, I can’t predict that, let alone what skills, utilities and how fast they are going to deliver them.

ohh bending spoons with our minds…could be great for mesmers ;-)
on a serious note:i do miss confusion.it has been over nerfed and it is a shame.I adjusted with a new build, but I miss confusion and in wvw i miss the time where u could hold buttonmashing people at a chokepoint.well, who knows maybe anet has a new plan for decent aoe,condition and crowdcontrol for us…

Actually i play on a laptop too, but i have a gamer mouse with it and believe me it changes a lot.i’d buy 1 if u have the chance.you are doing quite good.keep it up.

Benjamin.8237:

Kittening hell guys, why does this always pop up? Mesmers are not Overpowered. They work as intended, to confuse the opponent. Phantasms to distract them, invis, teleports and trust me here if you are not intelligent or capable enough to fight a mesmer in this game, try fighting one in the original Guild Wars. In Gw1 Mesmers would punish you for using skills (confusion) but they could also punish you for not using skills, they could stun lock you in place and literally control you the entire fight, making them a great team utility. Imagine Hexes in this game?

In this game, Mesmers are SO easy to fight compared to GW1. Mesmers have to put all their trait points to excel in a build, because OUR class is Working as Intended. Of course we have some bugs, but lets face it, until Anet fix all the other classes you will be sub par when fighting a Mesmer. We recieve nerf after nerf because of other players incompetence, but we are still the most balanced and fixed class. Fix all the other classes bugs first and then it will be an open playing field. Also remember, Mesmer is meant to be the hard counter to people that don’t play smart, just as Thieves are hard counters to opponents on their own and Warriors are hard counters to ranged classes. Some classes are meant to dominate in some fields, stop QQ’ing and request Anet fix the classes that you want. It annoys me that these threads pop up all the time.

I may as well create a guide on how to kill mesmers to make you all relax.

^totally agree with this and it’s a shame that anet does not follow gw1 with the classes as the mesmer was amazing with it’s crowd control skills.i wish we had that option here in gw2. buttonmashers make pvp dull and boring if there is no way to stop them.

when i pvp i’d rather be destroyed a couple of times, then learn to adapt and be great in pvp after i’ve learned how to counter other builds. Challenges make a game more interesting, even if it gets u annoyed at first.once u mastered a viable counter, it feels much better, then a little kid spamming heartseeker a million times with no counter at all, because all your counters got overnerfed by anet.

I’d rather have more skills for all classes, than nerfs. why dumbing everything down?i want more crowd control, more conditions, if i choose that over direct dmg!

Zelulose.8695:

So I tested max toughness mesmer with heals and an idefender and he kills me before I really see him. Ask anet what to say to this video XD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99BKVpBxXQ

This is why people complain. Imagine what he does to GC thief or any other non tank.

well u made a lot of mistakes right there.just going invis and then popping back up like that was way to predictable and he was waiting for u..u should have put more pressure on him during that invis time.yep and no mantras were channeled, u did barely anything except autoattacks. get at least a clone up.

it gets higher numbers if u have higher stacks on them.

i think anet all plays thieves and confusion bombs used to be a good counter vs 22222 spammers so thats why the nerfed it to protect their golden class. i miss confusion and atm it is a joke to even try to use it . 25 tacks is a joke! i get destroyed by bleed stacks if my cleansers are down but hey lets nerf confusion to kitten so the thieves don’t have to think anymore.

noticed a big change in wvw heavy lootbags too. i used to get a few t6 mats before and at least make a few coins here and there, but now i get mostly mithril,leather and silk…very frustrating…

yeah 26k hp and that kind of armor….most likely u got hit by other attacks too at the same time.necro+thief=biiig ouch

what class are u and what tier are u in?

I’m in a smaller,but amazingly coordinated guild in tier 2 atm and we get lots of epic fights, so my badge drop is pretty high.if you are hunting for badges, go to a bl that has lotsa action, find coordinated group to run with and enjoy the badges. btw ts…just saying

totally agree. golem suicides happen wayyyy too often.i think guild golems shold be able to be taken back by any of the guild members

mesmer 80
elementalist 80
warrior 47