I have to agree that this thread needs either being locked down or renamed to “EremiteAngel’s nerf list” to better reflect what this is.
I support this, it’s pretty awful under water, during jumping, dodging, rolling… every time.
It looks great! Now you can create perfect homemaker characters, then we need a vacuum cleaner in the gemstore.
For some reason the skin tone of my chars is much darker on the login screen than before.
I still want to know why they were removed in the first place. Anyone have any clue?
They were removed because Woodenpotatoes pointed out that his immersion was ruined because Kasmeer stretched during some “dramatic” cutscene.
This prompted someone to start a thread explaining how this totally ruined their immersion and had to be fixed.
Arenanet, with their usual approach, destroyed the animations until such a time when they have enough manpower to create some superb solution.
Here is the infamous post:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lwd/Default-Character-Animations-Spoil-It-All
Foo, quaggan doesn’t like to be rezzed. Quaggan wants to sleep in the rock.
The amount of misinformation in this thread is hilarious. Every mesmer these guys ever met must have been playing the infamous 66666 build.
I’m pretty sure that one of them was a cow before Lion’s Arch has been rebuilt.
Some sylvari cultural armor would look great on humans yet they can’t have it. Outrageous.
No what I mean is that an idle animation is quite possibly the least important thing they could ever delete to me. Mainly because it serves no use whatsoever other than to break some very minor level of tedium while you stand there doing nothing but stare at your character.
The only way you can put any weight of importance on this is by making it a matter of principle, in which case there are still much more worthy subjects to moan about.
And yes, I do love to use the word asinine. It makes me feel rebellious towards the censor.
So it was important enough when some select few whined about it in a single asinine thread that immediate action had to be taken, but when many people ask for it to be re-included, it’s not important because there are more pressing matters?
How does that even work? Besides, your first reply in the thread offered absolutely nothing of relevance except for being asinine without reason.
So let me get this right, thieves has been the hard counter to mesmers for close to three years now. Mesmer finally gets some counterplay and now we are whining? Jesus you guys are pathetic.
Well, Mesmer get the ability to counter all zerk classes now, not just thief.
Hard-counter ranger/ engi with spammable reflect and perma stealth.
Hard-counter Guardian because they basically can never catch you.
Hard-counter Zerk Ele because they need a target for their S/F too.
Hard-counter thief with all the blind/ longer stealth than thief.I think defending some of the abusive broken traits is more paxxxxxx.
Yeah right, hard countering guard and ele because you can run/hide away from them. Logic?
They’re not using autoattack, but one key they chose before the run, so weapon/attunement swap can produce the effect they desired. That’s NOT the same as using only autoattack.
The point was that you don’t really need any tactics. The AI doesn’t pose any challenge, and can be killed with no strategy at all. And that was what this is about. The combat needs good ai to put up a real fight, where you are expected to pay attention, and react to what is happening.
If spamming your aoe heal skill occasionally, and spamming all your attacks in between, is enough to beat almost every PVE fight, then something is wrong.
This is what PVE combat looks like: I go through all my damage skills, rince and repeat. The enemies make no attempt to keep their distance, or stay out of an aoe effect. They don’t really use attacks that the players need to dodge. It’s as if this only happens during boss battles. It is as if only boss battles have the minimum effort put into them, to make them some what of a fight.
In GW1 enemies used to have builds, and unique skills, that made a difference. Silver Wastes is the first area where I’ve started seeing enemies that do something different. It is the first time I’ve seen enemies that have healers, or do charge attacks.
If you look at this video and start to think, they basically made a 5-skill build for the dungeon. They knew what they will need most and picked those skills (the ele is using lava font all the time, i wonder why…). This proves that there are a few important things that the different classes bring to the table.
It also proves that you fail the gate controller if you only spam one skill.
And like others said, please do the same in fractals 50.
Ah of course GW1 was always so much better eh? Yes, the mobs use actual builds – just like they do in GW2. They have certain unique features there, some mobs spam 25-energy skills as if they were connected to some nuclear reactor for energy regen – just like “shoot” in GW2.
Look at the Underworld in GW1. People have been soloing that for how many years? Challenging content? I bet you can make an 8-man party in GW1, everyone with one single skill and you can beat content there too.
They’re not using autoattack, but one key they chose before the run, so weapon/attunement swap can produce the effect they desired. That’s NOT the same as using only autoattack.
i think all outfits should be able to be mixed and matched. You would see some real fantasitc combinations. Sadly i think they feel they would loose jem purchases for new ones people are starving for, because in 3 years the wardrobe department has failed. But probably intentionally .
I think what they’ve done is to crank up everything to 10 and once the fixes are done, we’ll see just how much the outfits have failed.
You really posted those numbers based on… the few matches you played? That is quite brave and very inaccurate.
There’s nothing wrong with zerker wars. There is also no “zerker mentality”. Just because berserker gear is the optimal, you hate it. If for some reason soldier’s would suddenly be the optimal, you would hate on that too. Splendid.
I can’t believe mesmers are still complaining after the amount of buffs they got. Yes, there will be nerfs going your direction, but everyone had to expect that.
And then the eles will be next. Until we are all back to the same old boring stuff that we had before the trait rework.
Hahahaha. Finally. This should have been disabled right when it was discovered. Still better late than never.
The “meta” tends to end up being what i come up with myself so just think about your build, what your strengths are, how you can help your group and build for that. This will obviously not be some weird double ranged shatter for dungeons with dire gear and runes of nightmare.
If you do this, you should not feel underpowered, sloppy, like doing nothing, underwhelmed, etc. in dungeons.
Back to Cantha, where not a single non-human character would be able to walk around without having their head chopped off.
So i’ve been thinking. The quaggan tonic transforms can jump and dodge now. And when i checked how the little guys look while jumping, i realized that they are having buckets of fun while in the air (they have a huge smile and look happy all-around).
Someone at Arenanet designed that with a lot of love and care, probably wanting to give players something to smile about (similar to the jumping quaggans).
Can we get some of the same developer care for our animations? It does not have to be a super-awesome solution like the jumping and dodging quaggan but something more than looking left and then right.
Thanks.
I never had problems with camera in this game. You’re overexaggerating, because the internet is not so full of camera issues threads. In fact, I put camera moa Jormag in the google and there’s no thread about complains… And with the latest improvements, there’re are less motives to complain.
Little do you know:
So yeah, the camera is a well known problem in the game for as long as anyone can remember. There have been countless threads about it, and eventually people just kind of gave up.
You call the latest changes to the camera “improvements”. I call them bare essentials for a moderately enjoyable game experience. Because really, the original camera system needed an exorcism badly.
Let’s be honest, you could play the game with the old camera system, it was not like you ended up cursing at it every day. So yes, you are exaggerating badly.
All this arguing could be avoided if you would see that dungeon-runners and pvpers have been using damage-control-support since the beginning. It’s not the combat system’s fault that 99% of the population seems to be standing on some safe spot at open world events, pressing 1 and waiting for the loot box.
Do you believe everything people tell you?
To be honest, if they wanted to lie about it, they could have done so weeks ago. Enable the HoM and say they fixed it.
Ah yes, mathematically this system has fewer possible builds. Aside from a few cases not many builds used more than 3 lines before either. And the 30 traits per line? They forced you to use 5 points at once, so that was more of an illusion of 30 and actually 6.
I’m not sure you are actually complaining about the new system or the fact that to get some traits you want you have to take others you don’t want. Which was the case before too as you said.
And you can still take the same traits, as traits have been merged (not removed) to provide the same functionality.
So yes, you have a more simple system but it’s not more limiting than before – aside from the occasional case where you really wanted to go into 4-5 lines.
Don’t be confused. He copy/pasted a QQ post about mesmers.
No class ever took skill to begin with. They are all alike because they can evade/dodge/block and go invulnerable when i attack them so that my attacks are not doing damage. Then they just hit back and it hurts. And all of this is INSTA CAST, no way to counter at all.
Nerf all classes plz.
But start with ranger, i’m tired of getting one-shot by bear pets.
Warhorn would be amazing on elementalist. And the class needs a new offhand anyway.
Or make it a main hand warhorn. That would rock.
The whole trait/specialization thing is blown out of proportion by many.
Yes the issue raised in #1 in the OP is true, that is the point of making your build now. You have to make some choices, traits are more build-defining.
But to be fair, you could say that about the old system too because sometimes you ran out of trait points while trying to go for certain traits. Then you’d end up with the same question… what do i take and what do i drop?
The only real limiting factor now is that you cannot take two traits of the same tier.
No, the system is not “dumbed down”, it’s different.
I use everything we can use except torch.
Never thought i’d agree with Henry but he has a point here.
There is QC, they just went on holidays after the successful launch in 2012 and forgot to come back.
The 2x HP on Teq could be ok if all attacks would have a chance of critting not just the ones that hit some obscure spot somewhere.
or, since the fight has changed, people could learn how to beat him now, and not last month? I’m sure a lot of people still show up in soldier’s….
Really? The fight changed? The patch notes said it is possible to critically hit Teq now. The patch notes never mentioned that there is a single spot somewhere in the boss model that can be crit. If a boss can be hit with crits then everything targeted that says “Tequatl the sunless” should be possible to crit.
I used to do certain bosses (some for the easy rare, others for a bit of different kind of fun) but slapping some hp on bosses while giving us a single crit spot (sometimes in hard-to-reach places) was a really bad idea.
What i’ve noticed is, the world boss fights are not more challenging or fun, they just take considerably longer.
If the single crit spot is a bug, fix it. If it is a design choice then maybe rethink your design choices because it’s not putting any more challenge into the content, it just draws it out.
And no, the fact you can still kill Tequatl by using different tactics, does not mean that this change was good or smart. This mess makes me wonder what the “challenging group content” in HoT will be like.
I’d say that – based on the forum posts – this will last one month at maximum. Then we’ll be back to the “skillful” celestial or equivalent meta where engineers and shoutbows and dagger eles run around going through rotations without hitting hard but at least surviving for hours on end.
Unless Arenanet does not give in to the “buh bah too much damage” posts and stands by its decisions.
Mesmer OP or Strong let’s clarify
Mesmer was a weak class, bound Phantasm or Condi in PvE and Shatter in PvP (if you were running something, you considered as kitten)
Now after the patch. Not even 1 weak had passed and yet you were already calling them OP.Understand that Strong is not OP.
Mesmer is now a strong class, they were used to be targeted at first in group fight.
But now people trying this are burning their fingers, and call them OP.
Using 4-5 skill to burst someone is not OP, it is strong.OP is Barrage grenade now, how it is. OP was turret before change.
May be you should take time to understand what changed and what you can do against it, before calling them OP.
Running berserk or Marrauder is a risk. getting burst is risk. But you can choose not use those, and you won’t get burst so quickly.
it is easier to win now, but let’s thing settling down before calling them OP.
There are stronger class.
That pretty much sums it up. Nobody says you have to be running pure glass, if you get nuked all the time, tweak your build or pick your fights more carefully. Granted, not many people pick their fights, mostly it’s “raaawr i’m going in!”… then they get blasted to pieces or taken down by a ton of conditions (when they should have known they lack enough sustain).
Some mesmers feel OP now and people jump on the bandwagon. But remember how everybody and their dog was playing ranger when the power longbow build was suddenly “viable”?
You guys see how you can nuke other glass specs down now, and ask anet to nerf us, then we’ll get nerfed to oblivion and if others will still hit hard, perhaps a more tanky meta will surface and then we won’t be able to even put a dent into certain builds.
Just wait with your “benevolent balancing feedback” until things settle a bit. Your job is not to find balance or to tell the devs what is strong in your class. They do not read your fine-print about “tone this down” or such. They WILL nerf you hard and then you can be happy to keep on complaining for another 3 years.
So what’s wrong with it? Some things hit harder. Sometimes people might even have to take a condi cleanse, and even use it.
In that particular case you barely have time to cleanse. Unless you have an instant cast cleanse.
And why not have an instant cast cleanse? Or someone with group-wide instant-cast cleanse for those particular fights?
I never do badly in pvp, in any game I play.
Something tells me you’ve been doing really badly in this one.
The 2x HP on Teq could be ok if all attacks would have a chance of critting not just the ones that hit some obscure spot somewhere.
It’s not a “burst meta” at all. Right now everybody is still experimenting with builds, and yes, there is a lot of damage going around. You would describe intelligent play as dodging high bursts… Why not play intelligently and dodge/avoid high damage burst then?
I wonder how long this will last. Perhaps one more week.
You forgot to mention that this kind of hunt is generally not fun at all.
Then again, since they want you to spend hours finding and shooting all the critters, they don’t respect your time anyway, so whatever about night time.
What did you expect? People who never had to worry about mesmers before have to actually learn how to fight them because they are suddenly even more dangerous.
Then, since there is no “meta” yet, instead of thinking about their own build and how to fight mesmers, they come to the forums to cry.
Meanwhile , some of mesmers who regularly post in the forums also ask for all kinds of nerfs (sorry, BALANCE).
So your average Anet developer sees what? He can go ahead and nerf the class because hey, everybody is asking for it, even the mesmers themselves. We can just come out later and say: it was a bug and we did not nerf you, just fixed the bug.
Funny how people who played condi are upset about the MtD nerf, but they don’t care that much about other things being OP, nerfed or what.
Honestly, if you guys keep asking for nerfs, or saying “there is so much that needs to be toned down”… then don’t be upset later that we’ve been nerfed. Did you see what the engineers did when their precious swiftness was at stake?
@PyroAthiest
I’m angry that Pyro is advocating nerfs. Sure, you may be a great Mesmer and find the class too easy to play now.
On the other hand, I’m finally having some fun playing shatter. Please don’t advocate nerfs. I think you’ve really lost perspective Pyro.
Hey can you Mesmers stop attacking those of us who are trying to be fair? It’s not calling for nerfs. It’s about trying to reach a point for BALANCE.
It’s the developer’s job to find balance… Our job is to present our side of the coin not to ask for nerfs.
What people here are really trying to say is, “I played Mesmer before it was cool. I think I’m going to play insert profession so I can try out this new build. You’ve probably never heard of it.”
You’d expect people having played mesmer to be special snowflakes anyway, right?
So what’s wrong with it? Some things hit harder. Sometimes people might even have to take a condi cleanse, and even use it.
Rethink your build and don’t melt?
So why on earth is warlord – a mesmer main – asking for mesmer nerfs?
The mesmer community is the most apologetic bunch of people i’ve seen. Who is going to speak for mesmers if even they ask for nerfs to themselves. And i don’t care about “balance” or whatever simply because the balance will come if the non-mesmers point out what they feel too strong and mesmers point out what certain nerfs would do.
But if everybody is crying for nerfs, even the mesmers themselves then anet will happily use the nerfbat and you can’t even complain afterwards because you asked for it. Smart.
Do not gamble? If something says “it has a chance to”… don’t buy it.
If you don’t know what you spend gold on, or what to do with it, look it up online or ask people…