I still run 6/2/0/0/6. Gs/rifle…
Bolas, bulls, signet of might….
Hilarious watching engi or guard block and then get kill shot for over 10k…
Least in pvp hotjoins….
What blows my mind is 4s revealed in pvp but 3 in wvw…
Makes no sense?!?
I don’t play anything but ranger now. Zerker ranger bursting noobs from half way across the map.
Reroll ranger or anything other than teef!
I don’t play play pvp to hold points. Just kill stuff…
Every class I play is power/burst :p
The burst is better with patch because rapid fire is quicker…
I posted this with diff title in thief forums for thieves…
Anet changed post on me.
Actually did a solo q with it and didn’t have a problem. Hotjoins it’s awesome.
Why play teef when you can play this and burst from like 1500 range or so…
Ranger is OP now…
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJARTjEqUxaLLOsw1ag+ga9DEAjN7J4D6AXXBA-TpQaQA99HAlBAA
Weapon runes are up for grabs. I like fire/air on bow and intelligence/stun duration on gs.
I just wanted to post this build because it’s incredibly OP and destroys berserker thieves with one rapid fire while signet of wild is active.
Good survivability with great burst. I run the wolf pet with fear and the spider pet with roots but that can also be personal preference.
Not sure why you would want to play thief anymore when this exists…
Oh this is pvp build. I don’t wvw anymore. Too boring.
Honestly, I think backstab damage should be increased. Least in spvp. I don’t wvw anymore.
My zerker warrior has way more defense and way more offense than any burst thief build there is…
I’ve hb people for 16k… Usually 10k or more, kill shot 9-12k…
I usually just run away when in trouble and use healing sig which heals for same as shadow rejuv except it requires no traits or stealth…
Warrior has better burst. Thieves only upside is attacking from stealth , but once you know a thief is there it’s a moot point.
Thief should hit harder…
Coloxeus, what’s the deal with this? Trickery build been around forever and in fact is the only thing I’ve found worth running in spvp. I run runes of rage tho for virtual perma fury instead of ogre and air/fire for burst.
Just curious why you felt need to post video and state you are not using SA traits?
Thief builds with exception of maybe that new confusion trait haven’t changed much in like a year IMO.
I haven’t lost to a dd ele. In fact I fought two of them and killed them both in 2v1. That 3% damage per boon trait just destroys eles. Level
1 evils hits for 6k… The more boons they pop off the more damage I do to them.
Build seems really strong. What’s the meta for tpvp tho? I’ve just been doing hotjoins since I started playing again.
Saw some guy running celestial with axe/sword longbow and it seems pretty OP.
Been running it on my warr in hot joins and I rarely die.
Is this like the new fotm OP build?
I haven’t played this game since they had 0/30/30/10/0 builds…
Now builds are even wierd. I do mostly spvp.
Thief feels kind of weak still… Skull crack warrior still seems strong…
What has changed?
Forzani from Daoc ? I’d recommend anything but venom share for solo roaming .
Why?
Just go play spvp and buy levels with glory…
I’m not going to be dramatic but I agree it’s a problem.
I’m running 0/30/30/10/0 in spvp with haste and d/p. it’s funzie in. 8v8 hotjoins
No offense, I think it’s a terrible idea. Spamming things is what thief class is about. Either hate it and move on or like it and play the game.
I don’t play much so I run a wvw build in hotjoins as a d/p power thief and just farm my dailies when I can. That and wvw. Good solo action out there for a thief still.
Trickery isn’t new. Been popular since sleight of hand buff.
OP? I don’t think so.
IMO, it’s the really only viable build left at high level play for thief.
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Wow, the OP has no clue what he’s talking about…
Learn to dodge maybe or interrupt thieves before stealthing?
He did show up here complaining nerf nerf nerf and he deserves what he got. Nothing wrong with devourer or venom share. It’s still not as strong as other builds.
Yishis dropped infusion of shadows for shadows embrace.
I like yishis videos. He plays a power build and does it well. No reason to hate on his videos nor over praise them. They are great for new players learning the game and entertaining.
I run full zerkers and d/p. I like having all useful weapon skills and hitting really hard. I don’t run the setup as him and I do just as well.
Actually sticking assassins reward to gm was a nerf for me…
Thief can’t perma stealth unless they take all stealth utilities and patience. Even so, it’s not really permanent.
Previous you could do it permanently with black powder + heartseeker 4 times across it and never leave stealth. All it took was one trait.
Now, you eventually run out of init+utilities. It is still possible to HS across BP 3 times and gain a longer stealth, but hardly permanent.
If anything thieves need buffs. It’s not our fault unintelligent people like you exist and can’t seem to figure out how to deal with semi-invisible opponents.
When I play my warr I don’t have a problem with other thieves. In fact I know what to expect at all times because I’ve played thief so long. When to dodge, when to block, where to position myself, etc.
Already have warrior and every other class to 80 thanks to my glory, but I don’t really enjoy it as much as I do thief.
Bump, ANet want to answer?
Simple question. Would really like anet to respond but I doubt they care about a thief and his questions. I would have thought with infusion nerf it would have been reverted in spvp.
Venom share is pretty powerful if used properly. It’s a cc build with devourer and basi. Gotta run refuge. Third venom can be drake or spider. More cc or poison.
You do decent physical damage because of 30da.
Only downside to be on share is usefulness when your venoms are on cd every 36s.
As d/p thief I usually discard this ability away from enemies or throw it at someone after backstab.
Why does thief still have 4s revealed in spvp?
I tried 10 CS instead. Like that version too, gives a little extra init every once in a while and more HPs or more fury.
I’ve been seen these more often in tournaments and they are actually pretty powerful. The 10s+ immob combos from teammates nearby are hilarious. I had some guy with perma immob from 100-0 with a warrior near me who used his immob from LB while I shared my immob.
Here is what I have come up with but I am not sure this is what I am going to use. It’s kind of a mix between my burst setup and venom share. It’s actually fairly effective in 1v1s because you can hit with black powder and then spam autos while they sit immob. When it runs out, basi venom.
Anyone have any other venom share builds they want to post? I’ve seen some S/P and D/P. Not very many D/D.
Over all it was a nerf. Builds that don’t use init regen trait got slight buff.
Htc is supposed to give thieves more survivability according to anet.
After reading that statement I seriously wondered if they have ever played a thief.
I don’t think anet knows what to do when it comes to thieves. They listen to the community too much in regards to thief balance. The reason that’s bad is because by design of a stealth class people are going to complain about it no matter what. They over nerf because if this. IR is not the first skill to get over nerfed.
Why do we have 4s revealed in pvp still, even after infusion nerf? Simply because people hate dealing with hidden enemies.
I had like 750,000 glory. Leveled every single class to 80, bought an extra char slot, and made 300g.
I used this method. Thanks arenanet.
My d/p burst build in tpvp got a boost with init regen.
My wvw build still works but frustrating fighting classes like mesmers who can stealth longer Zander eventually kill me.
big nerf to thief in wvw… i can’t beat mesmers now because they can actually stay stealthed longer than me now…
i’m sure i’d lose a lot more fights vs. multiples and adds due to not being able to stealth around the map as i used too…
sad day for thief class…
tpvp d/p burst build got a slight buff tho with init changes because it doesnt use any init regen except opportunist…
Anet doesn’t give a crap about the thief community. We have been complaining and making suggestions on what we would like to have instead but anet doesn’t listen.
Warriors complain about things and it gets changed in like a month.
Proof that anet does not care about thieves or the people who play them.
Thief gets huge nerf with opportunist in zergs. Good luck spamming cluster after dec 10
I run my warrior for zerging. Thieves are just good at blast finishers for boons.
Least my warrior has a few second of immunities to mess with the Zerg. Thief is dead if he gets too close.
Anet hates thieves. Proof = dec 10 patch
What: heartseeker spam
Why: because dodging and using defensive skills for non-thieves is just too much work.
A friend of mine said that Jon Peters said “The new heal skill for thieves is going to change the meta.”
This is unsubstantiated though. Just word of mouth. He could have been joking.
I guess we are supposed to be venomshare now?
The easiest fix would be to make it so that any attacks from stealth for 1.5s would not cause reveal/remove stealth. Problem is when it procs in the middle of a cnd or in the middle of a bp+hs with someone targeted.
He prob runs glass cannon lb/sb ranger and wonders why he gets tooled by eles and thieves…
I watched the video and that dev was terrible at theif and honestly terrible at the game.
The video says nothing about thief class. Just another bad thief. If they were balancing around this guy thief would get major buffs.
We are theives. You think ANet cares about us? Think again! Dec 10 doomsday for thief!
They also invented a patch to ruin the class. Comes out dec 10.