It was DH, WAR, TWO NECROS, THIEF
Nothing to screenshot except “oh boy we are doomed” and “let me swap to make it four”
LOL
war meant a screen shot of the madness in chat you posted about
I had no idea f2p couldn’t use map chat. Great to know.
lmfao if f2p cant use map chat it is 100% the ranked thats making chat really bad
Really think so?
yep you can only take so many losses before people start saying things in chat gain a pip lose a pip gain 2 pips lose 3 pips all day long .some people have been in the same rank for days . try not to take it personally when they are lashing out in chat
Toxicity as they say. Interesting to see the decline. Did FREE TO PLAY cause this? Post comments below.
how ranked is going for most people is what is couseing the madness . just people taking their stress out on everyone
in pvp please do not just count on your bow. today in pvp there was more then a few times were the other team got the cap because a ranger would stay on high ground or out side of the point and let the person get the cap. if they would have used a great sword or any melee they could have pvped the guy in the point to keep it from being capped
Yeah, no.
Sometimes going down there is a sentence of getting focused and bombed in a teamfight, or hit with marks/traps if solo.
Not that you should -always- be off point fighting, but jumping straight into the fray isnt always the wisest thing to do, depending on the enemy (Dragonhunters and Reapers in particular come to mind) and your allies.
lol no man your misunderstanding what i watched happen. it was just one guy on the point. on the Forest of Niflhel map i was taking home and on map it showed other team was about to cap so i run to mid by the time i get there he just capped it and i see a ranger from my team on the ledge shooting at him. she or he could have stopped it. the other time was in Battle of Kyhlo . i was fighting a warrior in mid and i was losing a ranger from my team was on roof shooting at him. he kills me and the ranger just stays up there lets him stomp me and he gets the cap. i would understand if it was just a big zerg fest on point and they stay away. like i said its only a few rangers that do this. most will do something to keep other team from getting the cap
There are those of us that know how to bow, and those that do not. It is clear that they do not.
i now thats why i said to some rangers most bow ranger do not do that. they will jump down and use a great sword before they let 1 guy get the cap
I joined Twitch and watched Pro League. It’s so awesome. It has about 2500 viewers. I love all this enthusiasm players have for PvP ingame.
Thank you ArenaNet, thank you. These high numbers shows the world we are many players loving PvP in this game.
if you are not being sarcastic then tell me how much anet is paying you. for the right price i can being happy about it to lol
Last matches I was placed with 3 amber and 1 diamond premade – I’m emerald atm, cos of this kittenty system – and we wree up against 2 diamons, 1 ruby and 2 emeralds…
screenshot please.
there are screen shots of lots of mix matches in forums this is nothing new
The tier system is meant to put u where u belong, if ur having close matches and win about 50% of the time thus staying where u are it seems like u reached ur appropriate place
that statement is very wrong. unless your god and can carry every team you get then it is dumb luck you advance . am a sapphire teir 2 atm i just had a match normally i would say personal score means nothing. however in this case it does 2 team mates got 0 points . sorry man but i am way beyond players like that skill wise
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no they had no disconnect
odds are in was not ranked. had that happen a few times picked the wrong one
Meanwhile my engineer had to be nerfed into uselessness?
nerfed into uselessness? i dont know what game you have been playing but engineer are some of the best players and pain in the kitten to deal with
Treating each game as a way to get better at your rotations, did you get to execute your rotations properly? If you lose a fight whether its team or 1v1, try and understand what went wrong. Could you have done something different. If so try it next time.
If you are a support class try and know what you are supposed to do to support the team. Did you do that correctly or was you out of position etc.
I am just as human as the next guy/girl and get upset if i lose but i look at my performance as objectively as a i can. Even if we are losing 400/200 i still leave spawn and try to keep learning by rotating differently etc.
But the number 1 thing that helps me not get stressed is. DONT THINK ABOUT THE PIPS.
Just play the match and focus on your skill rotations and map awareness etc. If you play well and your team does their job properly, the pips should come naturally. Focusing on the “i gotta win this match for next tier” is an invitation to stress and mistakes.
Good luck
lmfao you hit the nail on the head the kitten pips
i am trying really hard not to rage out or get mad at people or the game . i look at every match has a practice match in case it is me and not just my team doing bad . any ideas what to do to keep from getting so stressed that i quit game . i would like some ideas and please no trolling saying get better noob i am trying if it is me already had a bad enough day thx for any ideas you guys can give
No thank you, sometimes the best option to win a game is not to get personal score.
Otherwise, everyone will cap home for the points. No one would defend. Just bad incentives all round.
if people just stood at home they would never get enough points to get a pip
i do not know if the amount of points that are handed out need to change to make this work. you get personal points from killing,capping,decapping and holding a point while you stand on point. you must reach a certain amount of personal points to get a pip in the match.doing this will make it more skill based and not hoping team mates know what they are doing. slowly but surely the good players will always advance no matter what kind of team they are in. the bad or not so good players will be left behind .this will also fix the problem of people not fighting on point or zerging because they will learn or just not advance. at some level every match will be good because no one was carried threw the ranks and people will never have to wonder if a team mate is good or not. also it will help players see what they are good at whether its capping decapping holding point or killing and what needs work.
Each class has their disadvantages
Guards have low HP
“Virtues have been said to help balance the guardian; for example, they have a lower base health than the warrior profession but compensate for this with their higher health regeneration granted by Virtue of Resolve.” – from Gw2 wiki
Ele’s have low HP
“They also have the lowest base health in comparison to other professions, so they have to make up for their lack of durability under fire by managing their attunements and skills carefully and avoid putting themselves in dangerous situations. They also are very versatile, able to easily adopt a support or damage role.”
Mesmers have low HP
- They essentially make up for that with high mobiliy, stealth and clones.
Engineer has high recharge times on their skills
With an kitten nal of turrets and kits, the engineer can also become quite durable when properly prepared. However, this is somewhat offset by the long recharge times of their abilities.
And so on..
Now for the Necromancers it’s nothing but good news.
“Necromancers gather Life Force from nearby deaths that allows them to transform into Death Shroud which gives them access to different set of skills and enables them to use life force instead of their health.
Necromancers have more health than other scholars; they not only are able to extend that health through the use of the Death Shroud, but also possess a wide variety of life stealing abilities, meaning the necromancer can potentially be a very sturdy profession. The necromancer is also great at inflicting debilitating or damaging conditions on enemies as well as removing conditions from allies and boons from enemies.
Necromancers also prominently make use of fear — a removable condition that forces the enemy to flee directly away from the caster for a short period of time."
Overcompensating much?
The truth is, they let out two incredible important facts about the necromancer
1. They are only viable with conditions.
2. They are slow as the slowest things to ever be slowBeing slow is a HUGE drawback in pvp. We’re talking PvP here. Even in the “world of kungkitten speed determines the victor”.
The same can very easily be applied to this game or nearly any game out there.
Some say, “well necro’s have better sticking power. They’re able to keep their enemies near them longer”
In what world? As far as I can tell, every other class is well equipped to do just the exact opposite; avoid getting cc’d as much as possible.
So these perks cancel each other out. This means… Necro is left being slow.
Now again, not a huge problem if you’re just playing with your conditions. You just stand there in one spot just facerolling your keyboard until the enemy dies. Boring, unfun, and dull. All meaning the same thing but idc.
Its a sad way to play and a frustrating thing as well considering this game marketed itself has having dynamic professions. Letting you do you when it comes to building your character. Which, lets face it, is true. You can do you. However, again, they just so happened to leave out another little fact: you CAN play these builds… but they suck; which is pretty much anet consolidating the professions into very specific roles.
Necromancer = No mobility. Lots of conditions. Lots of health. The durr profession.
Mesmer = Lots of mobility. Lots of flashyness. Lots of utility. Lots of damage. Lots of love.
Elementalist = Lots of mobility. Lots of aoe damage. Lots of stun breaks and evasion. Lots of killing.
Engineer = Lots of sustain. Lots of durability. Lots of CC. Lots of damage. Plenty of mobility. Plenty of condition damage builds. Plenty of power builds. Plenty of plenty. High cooldowns on their 20 million abilities.It just doesn’t seem right.
Why are necro’s forced to play such a boring role becuase their lack of mobility is not compensated for.
Why isn’t Necro littered with Quickness buffs to counterbalance their overly sluggish ways?
doesn’t make sense to me.
this post is a joke right? you do not need speed. i have seen a necro that took my entire team on alone. we lost the match because everyone blew off everything else just to see if we could kill him. so there are some pretty insane builds out there
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in pvp please do not just count on your bow. today in pvp there was more then a few times were the other team got the cap because a ranger would stay on high ground or out side of the point and let the person get the cap. if they would have used a great sword or any melee they could have pvped the guy in the point to keep it from being capped
Title says it all. Just trying to get diamond to finish my backpiece.
I currently am familiar with d/p thief, power shiro, dh, and reaper, but heard dh got nerfed, power shiro got nerfed and suffers from all the condi/cc spam now, and not a big fan of the condi reaper. So not sure what to do now. Even with looking at metabattle i’m like … ok now what.
well just watched a mes eat a spike trap snake trap entangled bonfire torch and dagger and still killed me in 4 skills so a mes lol
That’s how competitve ladder works.
what game have you been playing what about this is competitve? competitive is when you are with people your own skill level in this case its just flat out not true what so ever when you are its dumb luck when you get a team that knows what to do and how to do it. have you not seen the forums
You arent really supposed to be doing it mainly for the wings. Its supposed to be a test of skill to see where you are on the skill spectrum. Mainly you should be doing it because you like spvp. Thats the main problem with this game like 2/3 of the people that pvp all the time really dont like pvp all that much nor are they very good at it.
test of skill? more like dumb luck for the people in soloq .from everything i have seen i think the only true skill in pvp will ever be shown is if they make a 1vs1 ranked turnement
I do not want to sound elitist, so I apologize in advance If I do.
I think the real problem with MM is not just the MMR or whatever, the problem is the pvp population who are skilled (mechanical,map awareness, rotations, pvp basics) only account for atleast ~20% of the people who que.
While the remaining 80% are either average, have no idea what they are doing, terrible mechanically, oblivious the other points except the point they are on, just started pvp, old pve players who jumped on the pvp train for the shinies, or a combination of all those.
So when the ~20% of the pvp population moves up in the higher divisions, the 80% are now on an FFA with random chances of getting the type of players that I mentioned.
My experience till ruby is very good, matched with ESL players or people who know about pvp, now when those players move up to diamond (either by winstreaks or luck or playing a lot of games) Everyone left in lower divisions will be a cesspool.
I had match that was 4v5 since the start in ruby and we still won.
TLDR: I think GW2 PvP population is comprised of majority of bad, average, plain out oblivious players, Hence you get MUCH MORE AWFUL games than decent ones.
not to sound like an kitten but this just isnt true. there are good players that get stuck with bad player and just cant advance you have no idea what it is like looking at the map and watching your team do the stupidest things .do i bump into players i have trouble beating or just cant beat sure but not has often has i do people i do beat. killing and getting caps only to watch your team ether 1.drop like fly’s 2. do not fight on point or just zerg. i apologize if i can not carry a team . i now know personal score means absolutely nothing . i have bumped into many that were in Diamond last season yet stuck in sapphire or ruby
Do you hate us? what did we ever do to you to make ranked so stressful? watching pips go up and down all day to the point it takes days just to get passed one tier . has you can tell by all of the negative posts people seem to think something is wrong .is it all in are heads and everything is working out the way you wanted or is something wrong? well i had to get that off my chest i was joking about do you hate us.. well sort of lol
1 Win 2 Lose.. The whole time.. Anet can you really call this s3 an improvement? I’m a decent solo player and I really need to understand… I mean I already got the legendary backpack, so there aren’t many reason for me to play spvp, but sometimes I want to test my skill in a “competitive” format and I always end up regretting this choice…
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i feel your pain ranked is about to make me quit game all together
I’m trying really hard to not full this post of bad words, but I think that matchmaking is still the same of the last season where if you start losing, you keep losing all the kittening day. I had a 12 streak loss after 1 victory.
I won’t complayining about ignorant people that accuse everybody to not doing their job, in an arena, but I think that they are frustrated as much as I am, because this PvP is really becoming not funny.
have you beat my friend almost 21 loss yesterday stuck on sapphire tier one for almost 2 day. score wise i am a bad kitten but not sure getting top score most of the time means anything
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please fix match making it should be very easy ambers fight ambers and so on and pre made teams do not fight soloq teams. they have an advantage out of the gate because odds are they are on team speak. just left a match that was 5 sapphires vs 3 sapphire and 2 ruby’s. even if the ruby’s are new to the rank it was still a dis advantage because i am a sapphire tier 1. i am sure everyone would not have a problem waiting a few more min to get a match where everyone is the same rank. would also make losing a lot easier to deal with because you know everyone was same rank
Hey there!
I’ve been playing GW2 sPvP since the last Season now and i am just very curious about one little thing i see every single game, that makes us lose every single time (in my opinion). If i talk about this i just get a “noob” or “l2p”.
Note: This is about Soloqueue!
So we start the Game, one guy says he will go close, rest rushes Mid. That’s what should happen right? Well what I notice is that, as soon as we got Mid (but we lost close, since one of the enemies goes there and caps it) 2 or even 3 people rushing for far. I see this every single time and in my opinion this just makes us lose alot of points and maybe even loses us the game.
I mean look at the math, as soon as we got close and mid its super efficient to get far. I get that, you apply some pressure to the team (or alot of pressure), u can fight them directly at their base and don’t have to worry about your other points etc. But what really happen is that you lose close very early, get Mid, go for far with 3 people that leaves only 2 guys at mid… no1 at close. What you have to do is, you have to get close back. So one of the guys from mid goes for close. That leaves 1 guy to deff mid.
So you have 1 guy on close, one on Mid and 3 on far. Seems like a good deal if you would own all points but thats not how it is. you will lose mid since theres only 1 to defend and atleast 3 ppl are respawning to go back to Mid even before our ppl got to far. So its a 1v3 in mid that causes you to lose mid dftly. Well we might get far after that but since the enemies got mid all ppl are like “oh no we have to get mid back” and rushes back to mid, that leaves far for the enemies without any defenders. since u most certainly killed a guy in order to get far, that guy will respawn and take far back.
So in the end you lost a safe mid, close is maybe struggling in a 1v1 wich can be lost any time just to be the owner of far for 10sec?
This kitten is ridicilous. I mean do i miss anything here? i see this every. single. time.
most of the time every team sends 1 to home rest to mid. well if you send 1 home and 2 to far you can kill that one guy fast and have a really fast 2cap. in my experience 90% of the time when me and one other team mate go far at start we get there and kill the guy before he has it capped then we cap it. so we have home and their home both capped while everyone else is in mid. now the other 10% is when they have the same idea and it ends up evening out with they have are home and we have theirs. or it can get messed up if no one comes with you and you can not solo the guy fast enough or they have 2 ppl at home……in the end some times its all about strategy because you can be totally out classed and the best way to win is to keep their team split up scrabbling to get caps
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i have seen some crazy stuff but even this is a first out of 2k+ matches. me and a guard was fighting in mid we downed each other right out side of point. his team mate walks right passed us i was like ah crap i am dead but nope he just stands there the guard starts yelling at him res me or stomp him.keep in mind the necro is right next to us and the point is already capped. the necro doesn’t do anything and my pet healed me and i finished guard off. i felt bad for the guard differently goes in my top five list of weird things i have seen. what are some of the crazy or weird things you have seen in pvp
So I was Diamond last season and I’m currently sitting in T1 Sapphire. This is awesome because it means I should be getting matched with other players who are sapphire or at worst, higher tier Emerald.
Instead, I’m getting matched with Amber players. I was actually watched with 3 out of 4 of these players (including the Ambers) last match as well, so it’s twice now I’m being matched with 2 ambers and emeralds.
Is anyone else experiencing this? This feels very very broken and a step in the complete opposite direction of last season. Being matched with players exclusively from your bracket was great last season. Something is either broken or has to be changed.
happens to me almost every match
I’ve had quite a few enemies tell me my condi trap Ranger (not Druid) build is AIDS. With the condi spike it outputs, I think it would be more accurate to say it gives people AIDS.
i run a druid trapper i almost killed a guard with just the spike trap
Can you share the build. I’ve been disappointed with my condition output on the condi druid i’ve been working on
here you go http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRAnf8YnUqAlrgdrAWsCUtgFMBrZZNACAOJuFwjDum+TLqloywA-TphAwAAOBAL3fYyDAgcZgOHBgCHEAA i like the condi damage and the Survivability on that build . however if you do not care if you live long and you want a bigger boost use rune of the krait and wanderers amulet with it
Totally worth the 10g for wanderer’s amulet
glad it worked out for you. did you use rune of the krait has well or stay with rune of the dead and use the wanderes amulet? graz on 16 kills think the most i have ever got was 11
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has soon has you enter the map it tells you what the objectives are for that map
Yeah i get it… like me you actually try more builds but the majority of players don’t.
For what I’ve seen in ranked arena many runs the meta build and stop and don’t even think about creating one. This behavior imo leads to a way of playing Gw2 classes that it’s unhealthy and blind because not only you don’t want to create your own playstyle but you tend to follow the op build of the moment
if players would just experiment with builds not only could they make one just for their play style but might be better then meta build . really tried the meta builds but i did not like them . so made my own costume build that is perfect for me.
I’ve had quite a few enemies tell me my condi trap Ranger (not Druid) build is AIDS. With the condi spike it outputs, I think it would be more accurate to say it gives people AIDS.
i run a druid trapper i almost killed a guard with just the spike trap
Can you share the build. I’ve been disappointed with my condition output on the condi druid i’ve been working on
here you go http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRAnf8YnUqAlrgdrAWsCUtgFMBrZZNACAOJuFwjDum+TLqloywA-TphAwAAOBAL3fYyDAgcZgOHBgCHEAA i like the condi damage and the Survivability on that build . however if you do not care if you live long and you want a bigger boost use rune of the krait and wanderers amulet with it
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i want some of what you are smoking .from my experience almost everyone are glass cannons. kill fast and die fast i fight maybe one tank every match sometimes none. a real fight should last longer then 10 sec. personally i think there should be more tanks it is an mmo after all
thats not true for example i run a druid trapper and other rangers use the meta druid builds. so that is two builds i am using sword/dagger axe/torch and the meta druids run staff/bow or staff great sword . witch all work well
Berserkers are hard countering druids at the moment. CC and condi burst were already both druids weakness and now they just made it so much worse. Zerkers do both of those without even trying.
if your talking about the 2 condi clear from using a glyph it never helped me has much has i thought it would since it has a delay you still have the 13 condi clear
I’ve had quite a few enemies tell me my condi trap Ranger (not Druid) build is AIDS. With the condi spike it outputs, I think it would be more accurate to say it gives people AIDS.
i run a druid trapper i almost killed a guard with just the spike trap
I sort of enjoy when they’re on the ground dead after a min 1 v 1 and they decide to tell me about how bad a player I am. It baffls me that this is what they would be thinking after losing a fight. sometimes I type “sorry I don’t speak dead”
i am going to use that line lol
You mean Ranked is stressful! You thought that you get gold and wings easy? Think like this, Sapphire it’s your place until the best players advance, until then you win you loose, that’s pvp. Best players end up at legendary, were they will lose and win like you in sapphire, or higher if you get a bit better. So get over your selves, you loose and win in PvP!
What about me: Started at Sapphire, in 3-4 hours I’m at 18 played games, 18 win strike, Ruby, +9 pips. I will not stop until legendary, were I will loose and win like you do now! Why can’t you advance like me?!; it’s not fair?! Well.., learn to play!
well sorry mr bad kitten i can not cary a team by my self. i can not make teams stop zerging or fight on point. however if i gained a pipe by score i would be way past ruby
smoke the pipe.
i wish lol. i have Epilepsy it would just make it easier for me to have a seizure
Had a team where a warrior used greatsword and the other warr in my team flamed him and that he won’t play if he doesn’t relog or playing the meta build.
Well, we lost because 4v5.
I also got flamed because i’m not playing meta, couldn’t care less.
there are a lot of costume builds better then meta. also a meta build might not fit your play style
anyone else find ranked pvp stressful? i was having fun for awhile but soon has i hit Sapphire everything went wrong gain a pipe lose a pipe gain a pipe you guest it you lose a pipe. i feel like its a job at this point lol. i think i already need a vacation lmfao
throw my torch use dagger/sword skills and a bonfire 95% of the time thats it they are dead
i had a thief yesterday tell me to go kill myself after killing him three times and taking his cap. then today i beat a warrior i said gf .when him and a team mate killed me he told me to get rekt what ever that means lol . can not forget about being called a hacker for getting up before another guy . what are the things people have said to you guys after beating them?
I had someone freak on me in the way…he thought gf meant get kittened rather then good fight
lmfao really? did you tell him what you meant or let him think it?
Slow PvP with healers and bruisers is NOT fun.
i think glass cannons that kill fast or die fast is boring not really a fight
It’s generally people with severe insecurities, psychological disorders, and real life issues that are using the game as stress relief best just to ignore them. Confronting such people just causes them to lash out more and what’s depressing is they usually lack self awareness of their own issues or even why they do it.
Sometimes it’s just children repeating what they see on youtube and in other games too /shrug
i find them highly entertaining
i had a thief yesterday tell me to go kill myself after killing him three times and taking his cap. then today i beat a warrior i said gf .when him and a team mate killed me he told me to get rekt what ever that means lol . can not forget about being called a hacker for getting up before another guy . what are the things people have said to you guys after beating them?
Maybe the OP means compared to unranked.
Ranked is still horrible, just less horrible than unranked.
that is true
Finally feel like im getting paired with people in my skill level whether that be win or lose. The quality of such matches is far better i get games like 470-500 quite a lot now. Instead of my team massively destroying the enemies in a 500-200 game or them destroying my team in such a fashion.
Well done Anet, I think this matchmaking system is a keeper.
you are joking right? i hardly ever get a team that is my own rank . amber should be teamed with amber and so on. that is not what is happening. to much mix matching
hi everyone i was wondering if anyone knew how match making works? i ask because in ranked i have ended up in a few teams that have no idea what to do. i am talking fighting off points,zergging and sometime 2-3 people go to home at start. however i do not get teams like that has often has i do in unranked. i thought ranked would be a lot different then unranked in terms of knowing the maps and how to play