Note: I am not talking about megaserver dynamic maps.
Was just thinking of ways to deter bandwagoning …
What if each server could only get X+10 players on a map based on the lowest populated server?
Server A has 100 players trying to get on EB.
Server B has 65 players trying to get on EB
Server C has 50 players on EB
Server A and B would only be allowed to have 60 players on map unless Server C added more players.
A queue would result for any over the 60 cap, added to incrementally as each new player joins the map from Server C.
If players from Server C leave the map, further reducing lowest pop numbers, then players on A and B remain, but if they crash or leave, that spot is removed.
People hate queues.
Would this motivate to spread out, at least for some, if they can’t consistently get their whole guild on map; or can’t get on as a single player?
that’s such a kitteng dumb ideea
1. server a wants to fight server b, so they go on server c map
they can’t cause server c got no players there
2. server a fight server b , so server c decide to border hop. server A lose so 15 plaeyrs leave the map . ( according to you server A will have 80 players on map , server b 95 ( map cap) server c – 0. No players from server b are allowed to join the map while in queue cause no server C on the map …
Vabbi is not verry good actualy.
1 . long queues
2. toxic team chat
3. commanders don’;t share participation for scouts
4. all medium classes are kicked from squads
5. don’t have own team speak server
I know i would get this reaction, but think about everyone on the same level of stats plus will help new players coming to the game mode, i guess Mike O’Brien was correct wvw players really love pve more.
So basicaly you can have +250 stat points from sigils , 200 to every stat from claiming buffs , food buffs that can increase 1 stat by up to 300 , and banners, and you want stat balance by amulets?
are you drunk mate?
And we probably had FSP against GH/vabbi once the past 2 months, but twice against Gandara.
gankdara had an negative k/d ratio in the last week like 0.6 -0.7 overall . gh/vabbi had 0.97 and fsp 1.21
The dissapointment we had when we meet tier 1 servers that refussed to fight once they lose 2 fights in row, forced our vabbi guys to want to drop back in tier 2 , in order to meet riverside, wich can provide much more challenging fights
don’t get me wrong i just tried to explain the linking : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/World-Linking-Beta/first
About the k/d ratio , the server with hightest activity, will have usualy the highest k/d ratio , because they will be able to outnumber the enemy for 20 hours /day , except the prime time . As you saw 2 weeks ago GH had 1.40 k/d ratio on EBG as the hightest among all servers , while they had 0.5 on home border , because nobody bothered to move over there : as an example Screen bellow when in 2 diferent days Gunnar had hightest k/d ratio arround prime time but suffer on late night till mid day.
Also last matchup you had aginast FSP before was in 2015 november http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/23/338
before k/d was implemented
the re-linking is happening every 2 months
the 15 servers with hightest activity become main servers . According to what i know activity 0include : daily ammount of players logging in on each server , overall played hours on past 2 months, wvw rank gained. So basicaly over the past 2 months , vabbi was more active than gunnars, so they became the main server . Even if gunnar glicko would place them in tier 2 , the glicko of the main server is taken in consideration , on the scorring > https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/eu/wvw vabbi glicko beeing the lowest from all the main servers
In order to become main server in the next 2 months gunnars need to be more active than 1 of the international european servers : Vabbi /FSP /Piken /SFR /Desolation/ ROF/ Gandara
Plz, can we get the Amulett Rune System in wvw(like in pvp) and a Lobby so people can afk there and wait for the Q.
All this build tweak cheese is so dumb and so unbalanced. I Know a lot of people hate it, but ye this way it might be easier to balance things out?
Also a Lobby where people can wait for Q and have some idk npc like in Hotm.
do you really realise what you request actualy ?
wvw is not about 1 vs 1, you got food buffs,utlity / all boosters work , claiming buffs (+160 to all stats) and you want amulets ?
you even got dragon /turtle /centraur banner , arrow carts, how would amulets help on those ?
Everyone should get the same pips for playing in wvw.
You don’t get legendary armor or legendary fractal back piece faster because you have been playing pve for 5 years.
You don’t get the legendary spvp back piece faster because you are rank 80 and played spvp for 5 years.
So why do veteran wvw players, get anything faster? Why do they get exclusive armor that only they can obtain because of high ranks? Nothing else is gated behind high ranks. Entitlement.
Sure hope they add exclusive stuff for “veteran” spvpers and pvers. But I bet they won’t.
You need to be rank 20 in pvp , in order to participate to ranked games https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Structured_PvP
you have advantage in fractals if you are high fractal lvl.
So as wvw players are forced to play this game mode for x ammount of time to get the reward, so are you
The difference by just following the commander and be in a squad is pretty big. You don’t get buffs/heals. When you die you don’t get rezzed. You are still helping, because you are eating the damage and with your sacrifice you help the zerg to survive longer and eventually be victorious. But you can’t get loot and you need to run every few mins to rejoin the zerg.
In the end only the most stubborn keep running with the jerks that hate you!
HF playing that way, if you are masochist…
So you say thieves and rangers mitigate damage ?
Good job man
So you say if you are on tag with an thief /ranger with every stack of condi on you and enemy necro use epi on you, you are actualy beeing helpfull ?
How do you think a thief with every stack of condi on them would survive long enough to be epi’d? I think you’ve lost track of whatever argument you were trying to make in an effort to “be right” here.
he don’t need to survive long enough ( 2 seconds-3 with 20 stacks of burn in a purge bomb ) or 20 stacks of bleeding is enough to punish an entire melee train.
However you start a discution with a flawless argument, are you newcommer from pve? or you some skill clicker necro that don;t know when or what to epi on ?
Some servers are still death, and new linking is in 2 weeks
as curently on eu 10 servers – full // 7 verry high -4 high -6 medium.
Those high/medium servers will have issues getting coverage by themselves
With recent changes to wvw, it became clear that classes like guards/war/necro/eles/revs (basically those must have in squad) get advantage over other classes in wvw because they are allowed into squad and allowed to zerg in wvw which allows them to gain ranks/pips faster in wvw. Meanwhile rest of the classes get kicked/forced into roaming due to their class design which results in less rank/pip gains in wvw.
Since wvw community and devs deemed it as fair and logical system i propose that zerg classes (guards, eles and co.) gain less shards/rewards/pips in other game modes (pvp/pve) compared to other classes (engis/druids etc.) to make up for the reward difference.
should those classes be reward more in other game modes? Pve raids? or fractals ?
They should remove extra dodges and stealth from thieves than and rangers
The difference by just following the commander and be in a squad is pretty big. You don’t get buffs/heals. When you die you don’t get rezzed. You are still helping, because you are eating the damage and with your sacrifice you help the zerg to survive longer and eventually be victorious. But you can’t get loot and you need to run every few mins to rejoin the zerg.
In the end only the most stubborn keep running with the jerks that hate you!
HF playing that way, if you are masochist…
So you say thieves and rangers mitigate damage ?
Good job man
So you say if you are on tag with an thief /ranger with every stack of condi on you and enemy necro use epi on you, you are actualy beeing helpfull ?
You could boost your rank with a b-day boosters /experience boosters with 100-300 ranks /day easy if you just play on EB and win fights arround Stonemist.
Yet i see no reason to reduce the rewards /rank , even for " Eotm Karma trainers" wich spent a lot of time in wvw game mode and have maxed all masteries , etc
What?
So you expect 1 guy to be able to counter an large zerg ?
Woow so smart ….
Imo delete cannons and a mortars, so those carebears learn to fight not use sieges
P.S next time use siege disabbler than run to cannon
and 1 -2 or even 10 guys shoudn’t be able to hold of a large group (50 players) or the game would be completly broken
I am rank 10k and i demand legendary armor
If i would spent that time in pve raids i would had it by now
i hope A-net will fullfill my request , and give extra rewards for players that played wvw only
Red keep is on second spot actualy.
Green is strongest keep , and blue is the weakest
Red keep advantages :
- cannons and mortars positioning are best
- The only keep where rams can’t hit outer and inner on same time. ( double gate )
- 4 diferent acces points to top walls (stairs ) green got 1 ( destroyable wall ) and blue got 2 (destroyable walls ) -wich advantage defenders (cloud formation /free cast )
This is hilarious. You and your fan boys are the reason to why the WvW in EU is going towards the kittenty WvW that NA have. If you stop transfer your horde every time there is a re-link and instead split up so there are veteran players on all the EU servers that can provide fights and commander and guilds then WvW would balance it self out. But instead you and your horde and then other horde bandwagon a link and get upset that it got linked to a tier 4 host and now you want Arena Net to move you up. Why?
In a few weeks when new re-link happen your host will be abandoned and drop dead like a rock which will hurt the host server so badly. And somehow you feel this is A-Nets fault. I blame them for a lot of things that are wrong with WvW but this one is on you and the rest of the server hoppers.
you shoudn;t take this personaly since we are on the same matchup , we are alredy splitted betwen us and fsp /gankdara /riverside
how can you think you should be in t1-2 when your score looks like this. if you so desperate to fight fsp, transfer to piken/gandara/deso.
oh wait deso full
oh wait gandara full of gankers and no one use ts/follow commander
oh wait piken full of casuals
maybe you should focus more on ppt then
wait what ? Who mention FSP or care about FSP ?
I say t1 -t2 Gankdara /Piken /Riverside , Cba too much about fsp they only have 1group that can fight back
@ svarty, if the current system need more than 2 months to balance tiers, while the links are 2 months, would be normal to track the populations matchups , every week to provide manual balance… and that is the only thing we ask for. The glicko was okeish 4,5 years ago , but after all the changes they made (score /scrimishes /links ) the glicko need changes
after the conversation above , i gues there is no more reason to debate the subject above with you , since i already proved you , that you are wrong
Have fun and best regards,
And i still hope a-net will pay more attention to wvw game mode and balance it
by constant transfering i /we support a-net with gems, considering i /we make 200 players transfer every 2 months.
In return we would like a-net to check the tiers constantly, and to adjust matchups for maximum activity
But you do not participate in the game mode beyond killing stuff/getting farmed at stone mist, you leave it to the people on the server already to defend/upgrade home bl whilst your transfer guilds do nothing all day in eb, don’t way-point to help other maps out etc. heck you didn’t contribute atall on friday, nor on Saturday, If you want glicko to adjust, look beyond stonemist and ppt harder.
actualy you are very wrong, i got almost the most captured objectives ingame, defended, along with most kills ingame according to gw2 efficiency , without Eotm
by constant transfering i /we support a-net with gems, considering i /we make 200 players transfer every 2 months.
In return we would like a-net to check the tiers constantly, and to adjust matchups for maximum activity
@ svarty, i remmeber you as some necro from piken that ask for enemy com focus, you are the biju of piken
@ vaacrow, Gh was 15 when we came here, you were always bottom tier, , the only reason they get in top 10 is because vabi carry, sorry for the 10 decent guys on gunnar , but rest are crap:)
One more dissapointment from A-net again, that after 2 weeks from relink they don;t consider yet to manaul adjust glicko , considering that linking last only 2 months.
I am not even sure how much A-net check the wvw but i can say is boring to own a tier 3 stonemist 12-14 hours a day for over 2 weeks against lower populated servers.
2 weeks ago , as a group of guilds /pugs we decided to stack on Vabbi in order to get it in tier 1-2 ….. Despite the fact that server went on " high populated status " 3 days after linking , and the fact that as “position 15” server we manage to win against servers like number 7-9 last weeks, while having the second most active active kills /deaths eu , with hightest K/D ratio , we got no atention from A-net so far. So i am wondering how much actualy takes for A-net to balance server tiers, considering that linking is 2 months long only ?
Suppose they wanted to allow you to earn legendary armour in WvW.
Do they put it behind reward tracks? Then it’s just a test of time. Play WvW long enough, get legendary armour.
Do they make it require badges of honour? Then it will go those with the most kills – those that blob up and press 1. Run with the zerg, get legendary armour.
Do they tie it to server victory? PPT hard enough / stack server coverage well enough – get legendary armour?
I can see arguments for all of these options, or some combination of them, but none of them are very appealing. They reward the worst parts of WvW and are not skill-based.
So, i am a dedicated player that has been here in gw2 since flame and frost begun, nearly four years now and i recently decided to make a legendary. To my great disappointment I was forced to play wvw, a game mode i really do not like especially considering it’s balance is worse than pvp, as well as the behavior of the toxic raid guild who only want meta people.
People should not be forced to play game modes they do not want or are discouraged to play to get a legendary, whether that is raids to get legendary insights for the slowly coming legendary armor or the gift of battle for the legendary weapons. It feels like a really bad slap to the community not giving more options to pve or pvp players other than building a wvw set just for one stupid thing (especially if you make a legendary and wana save up gold).
If Anet did learn something from removing wvw from gift of exploration they totally forgot it with this.
So please if any Dev is reading this please add other alternative ways (not saying easy) to gain the gift of battle in other ways not just zerging in wvw and give pvers a chance for it. (Could easily say the same for leg insights, so that they would be also removed as a factor is people are good at raid or not)
I am sorry, i do not enjoy the pve raids or fractals , but i would be forced to do them if i want infussed rings, backpack , or legendary armor
Even more they force me to do dungeons and meta events on pve map , wich i 100% dislike and i will get kicked from every single dungeon party or pve raid if i go with nomad guardian inside
I never feelt that A-net take wvw as a competitive game mode , or treat wvw as a competitive game mode ,so your post is really a surpirse for me.
Since developers consider wvw as a competitive game mode i am gonna ask the following question :
- We will have in near future skill balance for wvw ( only )
- Will the servers /tiers get more balance?
i don’t belive 300 g is a lot if you play wvw only , but probably on lower tiers is harder to get money
i personaly get 30 + daily from wvw and probably over 150 in weekend in wvw, yet there are also costs
Can we finaly have this after nearly 5 years of game, not that ugly bear kodan tonic ?
Something like ascalonian mage potion but available at wvw vendor for 10-20 badges
A tonic that allow use our skills while transformed
Pin snipe is lame and the only posible way to counter it at the moment is stealth.
More armor /HP /boons will not help against : corrupt moa pull+imoblize by some decent snipers.
Any commander can be easy killed, if the sniper team have good coordination, however pin snipe ruin the open field fights, and commanders are forced to drag the fights in choke points, to minimize the leader focus.
most of the fights where commanders are hardly focussed end up in pirateship or in endless fights in choke points.
However i find amusing the reaction from kids that belive they are special or better players if they can focus 1 guy in a 70 vs 70 fight. Commander focus was never hard , however 95% of the decent players avoid to do it , to have funny and healthy fights.
Usualy bad players try to find easy mode to win fights, and end up ragequiting when they lose fights , even with pin snipe
bad ideea
Curently you have food , boosters , tonics in wvw, claim buffs and world bonuses that increase Hp , even the runes that give extra stats, and you want amulets?
Overall you can have
+ 60 all stats from bloodlust
+200 all stats claiming buffs
+10 extra Hp from Robust
+ food and oil
can be up to 500 to 1 single stat bonus and 260 to rest , and you consider amulets would bring balance ?
Could you probably explain us the logic behind the manual adjustment of glicko for FSP
Do you realise that we actualy try hard to keep this game mode alive. So on our own cost we ( the players ) split ourselves in 2 major servers (Vabbi /FSP ) , in order to increase the activity in wvw game mode
There is actualy rivality , and if we can call it "challenge " , betwen vabbi and FSP however we do not feel any kind of support from A – net for the population who prefer fighting in open field over siege wars.
As you see attached in screen bellow the balance on fights is betwen 2 servers but yet you split them. Explain us your logic please
Best regards,
Vabbi player
my server keeps getting paired against bigger servers or at least servers that can be active 24/7 while mine is only active at night
and defending is impossible because siege cant be placed anywhere safe from player exploits and attacks
by exploits i mean mesmers being able to aim their pulls behind the actual walls and pull groups of defenders to the cluster of attacks from attackers , we’re talking about 500+ range behind the walls , LOS needs fixing
rangers and eles can decimate whatever siege is placed
rangers and mesmers can summon their clones and pets behind the walls and ontop of the siege
So, according to your post , your server have less players ,so they should not be able to capture any defended objective , or you consider that you are smarter /more skilled than your enemy, behind an arrow cart ?
As i see this is just a rage topic cause you lost your keep /tower.
Defence in this game is too strong already, just l2p
It’s never been a l2p issue, it’s always been a l2stack issue. Of course there are some that think that overstacking a server is part of playing the game.
can’t really talk about overstack, when there is no server that can fully cover 4 maps even at reset. However this is the mentality that kills the game " i should be able to defend with 5 against 50 " and this is why players lose interest of wvw. Siege bunkering, afk rewarding (Track) , less fights, less action .
my server keeps getting paired against bigger servers or at least servers that can be active 24/7 while mine is only active at night
and defending is impossible because siege cant be placed anywhere safe from player exploits and attacks
by exploits i mean mesmers being able to aim their pulls behind the actual walls and pull groups of defenders to the cluster of attacks from attackers , we’re talking about 500+ range behind the walls , LOS needs fixing
rangers and eles can decimate whatever siege is placed
rangers and mesmers can summon their clones and pets behind the walls and ontop of the siege
So, according to your post , your server have less players ,so they should not be able to capture any defended objective , or you consider that you are smarter /more skilled than your enemy, behind an arrow cart ?
As i see this is just a rage topic cause you lost your keep /tower.
Defence in this game is too strong already, just l2p
and rangers
