Guild Wars 2

… New WvW siege weapon? AERIAL BOMBARDMENT INCOMING!!! MAN THE… OH GOD IT’S EVERYWHERE.

BG’s been locked for months though. We’re basically running on diehard defenders and the occasional fairweather pug

Step outside your traditional MMO boundaries. Shake off your chains. Accept what is better than kittening player to player trade. I don’t want to filter out everything except guild and party chat due to ‘S> Ectos 35s, 2k in stock’ spam

Instead of reducing the map cap, the maps need to be enlarged.

If you can’t deal with pug zergs, might need to revise your tactics and such. I was in EoTM tonight and was farming pug zergs of 40+ with only ~15 people (to be fair, they didn’t even fight back… they just took it like a champ). The problem is the close proximity to waypoints allowing for the dead to run back before the fight is even over.

Updated class requirements

27/1/2015

Elementalist – Urgently high
Necromancer – High
Guardian – Medium
Warrior – Medium
Thief – Medium
Mesmer – Low
Engineer – Low
Ranger – Low

Yes there is. The WXP you get by killing a player that just came into WvW is 60 WXP. As he is continually killed, his loot and WXP return will decrease.

I personally think there needs to be a greater incentive to play WvW. Currently, your server/guild’s WvW performance has very little impact on your gameplay. If we could increase the impact on gameplay in PvE, I think there should be a greater participation rate from PvE players and guilds looking to maximise their PvE experience as well. This should include increased XP and Karma gain (and maybe gold?) for guilds who perform certain tasks regularly in WvW (similar to a daily achievement thing, but for guilds) such as claiming X amount of structures/camps with active buffs running, or having X amount of players repping the guild perform capture or defense events. Bring back crafting/harvesting bonuses for open world players as well and increase the bonuses.

Weekly bonus chests are a good thing but needs to incentivise people who aren’t on winning servers to participate as well, so instead of a winning server getting 3 bonus chests etc, change it to challenges in WvW, a checklist of achievements that will give more bonus chests the more you complete. Yes, this will bring out achievement hunters, but since the vast majority of players play on servers that can’t queue 4 maps, some pain felt on the higher populated servers seems well worth it, especially if the achievements are well designed in order for the achievement hunters to actively help out the server.

Yes, some of these suggestions might further incentivise stacking. The thing is though, we already have 5 full servers. Players in Very High and High servers are the ones that will benefit. Players in Sea of Sorrows and Dragonbrand (especially Dragonbrand) will also benefit immensely from an infusion of players looking to increase their EXP/Karma gain for alt leveling or other such factors as they aren’t massively populated in WvW compared to the Tier 1 servers.

The reason I think more so than anything, more incentive needs to be placed on playing WvW is because WvW will always have population imbalances. A guild deciding to raid 2 hours longer than they normally do will create a massive imbalance. A server deciding to push hard and have players playing longer than they normally do will create a massive imbalance. Rather than fixing population imbalances that will always exist (because the population caps on the maps are really low in comparison to the number of people playing the game), just increase the number of players playing the game, which will reshuffle the servers and create new equilibrium. Lower populated WvW servers will keep their quiet WvW experience and the people who want more people to play with/against will still have that.

Kulvar.1239:

Aetherblades use Air Element…
A fifth element will not solve any problem that elementalist can have.
Elementalists have virtually four weapons skills sets instead of two. How a fifth (or more) will help ?

The problem with eles currently is that they are pigeon holed into choosing one weapon set and sticking with it indefinitely. You are either ranged, or melee. There’s no swapping between the two. It makes eles in PvP cakewalk to counter.

Rather than giving us another attunement, allow us to switch weapon sets like everyone else.

Oh, the love bites are coming in thick and fast as I mentioned in a previous post concerning WvW moderation.

Great to see such active moderation of WvW. I hope content development for WvW is following soon

MAGpie.7962:

Reverence.6915:

The higher up the tiers you go, the more important defending becomes. There’s a lot more manpower to take a structure and defend it to deny your opponents that PPT

“Important” and “Rewarding” is not the same thing.

That feeling after you successfully defended a 3 hour long siege of your garrison? Pretty kitten rewarding I’d say

Petez.2975:

Fairweathering is a problem in T1 N.A.

FTFY. People come out and “help the server win” when the server is already doing well. They disappear when the server isn’t doing so hot. Leads to some really awkward population issues.

Typing Chinese and having it come out in “bits” (best way to describe it) is really annoying. It’s like trying to read English with half of each word missing. That, at least, could be fixed… right?

These tournaments revitalise the wvw scene with new blood. I wouldn’t say the lower tier servers have been killed at all.

If TC plays hard for second place, they can pull an upset over JQ. That’s not to say it would be easy. JQ has the strongest Oceanic and SEA in T1, so trying to win over coverage like that is quite tough (continuous coverage from NA to EU). It’ll be how each server manages their PvE carebears, as we’re more or less queuing up 2-3 maps all day long

As for t2 servers, they could also pull an upset by deciding a 2v1 on a target of their choice. AGG and NS being on SoS basically means that in a JQ, BG and SoS matchup, BG is looking at a 2v1 on at least 2 maps during NA. If it’s TC, BG and SoS, it might be a little more random.

Forzani.2584:

This one has always baffled me….“stack on me!!”

I still take heat for not stacking with 10+other people. I come from Daoc and that’s the last thing you would ever do….which also seem like common sense for any game.

The reason why commanders call for stack (those that know anything about combat in this game) is to control boon timers and for blast finisher effects to spread over more players. If you’re not within range of those boons and combo effect finishers, you’re missing out in vital boons such as Protection, Regeneration and Might.

Spreading out and not moving in a stack is actually the best way to combat a hammer train. Restack when boons run out.

Some most commanders are just bad.

Pretty sure this week is due to the Lion’s Arch event. But I have noticed a very steady decline in WvW population since last November.

I’m actually quite looking forward to the next tournament. It’ll be interesting to see how the T2 stacking has affected their coverage and how they stack against T1 servers on the NA side. I don’t think it’ll affect things as much on the EU side for gold league though.

Your definitions of guild sizes are a bit weird. I’d say anything below 50 is a small guild, as you won’t get more than 10-15 people online at a time unless you’re an extremely focused/hardcore guild. If you’re a casual guild, good luck getting even 5 online at a time.

I.E. my guild Faerie Law has a roster of 45, but around 15-20 active and can manage at most 10 online at a time consistently during our prime time WvW raids (usually 5-7, cycling through the 15-20 active players as they log in and log out). That’s not a lot of numbers and can’t be considered a “large” guild.

The new map is terribly boring. No server cohesion, very little coordination, massive pug zergs smashing faces into other pug zergs or doors.

Meh.

I honestly don’t see why guilds would like EoTM. You can’t even GvG there because there will definitely be adds from pugs. There’s no challenge fighting in EoTM because you’re fighting random groups with no voice comms. That isn’t fun.

Lol who cares about AP. I’ve been playing the game basically since it was released and have 6k AP, whereas my peers have upwards of 20k AP. Does it make any difference? Nope. We still do kitten together just like everyone else

Napalm that kitten. Instant win.

Agent Orange might work too :P

It’s great that we’re allowed to turn it off, cause it just causes lag and makes it harder to call targets in comms when you have multiple parties (e.g. focus the Silver Veteren ranger!)

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Reverence.6915:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

It isn’t surprising that sales are up. The game is pretty much full on P2W now. If you don’t pay you will quickly fall behind other players.

Also the game still has had no competition to draw players away. Whatever report follows a few months after ESO and Wildstar release will be the one to watch for the real health of the game.

Pay to win what? So you don’t have to buy resource collectors? Do you know what P2W means?

ESO will be the flop of the year (just read every single independant review or experience the stress test betas yourself, it’s pretty bad, not an Elder scrolls game and not a real MMO experience), and Wildstar only caters to a small playerbase interested in PvP who aren’t interested in graphics. Both these games will get a huge migration of those MMO hoppers who will leave in 2-6 months, same as what happened to GW2.

GW2 is doing far better than what can be expected in a shrinking market.

I would suggest doing more research on wildstar. PvP is only a small part of that game.

As to GW2, how is it not P2W? Please point out how I can get good looking new armors in the last year that doesn’t involve the gem store? Or perhaps tell me how I can obtain watchwork sprockets next week outside of the vastly superior gem store only mining pick? Or maybe tell me how I can reasonably participate in super adventure box hard mode without the gem store only coin? Or maybe the gem store only resource packs for ascended jewelcrafting… I could go on and on, but that isn’t the purpose of this thread. I’m certainly not alone, many people see GW2 as a P2W game now, but that is just the way the market is heading, people have more money than time.

PvP of Wildstar is actually the main attraction of the game. The PvE is so shallow it’s not even worth mentioning. Just a boring WoW-clone grindfest.

Guild Wars 2’s gem store sells convenience and vanity items. That’s not “Pay to Win”. You are not paying for power. You are not paying for extra levels. You are not paying for exclusive and more powerful weapons and armor. You are not paying for more exclusive content that can’t be obtained through in-game questing. In short, you’re not paying to be superior to anyone else in-game. That makes it not P2W.

Dasenthal.6520:

Aomine.5012:

PLEASE NO!
I rather they never come back.
The ques, the lag, the blobs, the double teamed…
All the worst of the game will happen during the tournament.

Your not in T1 so you don’t know the impact..

You’re not in the lower tiers so you might not realize it, but the rest of us need incentives to increase activity in WvW. While you guys worry about Queues we have to worry about getting enough people in EB to follow the tag, better yet sometimes we don’t even have a tag.

The tournament would be great and I’m hoping for the announcement any day now.

There’s a lot of us in T1 that is really looking forward to a tourney. Many in T1 are there for the 24/7 fights, which has been on the decline for the past 6 months as balance changes from 1 server to another. It would be nice to get a match where all 3 T1 servers can queue all 4 maps for a tight matchup, to determine skills and/or strategy rather than numbers and coverage

fellyn.5083:

Maybe I’m just smarter than the average bear but I don’ think TS is needed to know that you’re supposed to follow the blue triangle around on the screen.

This and other people saying similar things…

There are commands the commander says in TS that you won’t get in mapchat. Stuff that will keep you alive and get you bags, or stuff that will help you win the fight, or stuff that will help the whole server in general.

As an example, in TS, a commander gets a call to push X server’s keep because they are pushing on another map. In this map, you’re outnumbered, but you know that if the other map is successful, your PPT will spike sharply. So you start pushing, fully expecting to lose engagements. As a commander though, you want to keep most of your people alive, so you will move around the engagement very quickly. If you’re not in TS, you’ll miss most of that and either 1. become rallybait or 2. fall behind the main force and miss out on your bags.

Basically, my view is that anyone not in TS is rallybait and not worth trying to keep alive. If they can’t make the effort to help the server, then I’m not going to make the effort to help them get wxp, bags, karma etc.

As for whining about being outnumbered, having too much random chatter etc., I just tell them to shut up and listen to commands. Usually works a treat.

Challenging content doesn’t have to equal gear treadmill or missing out on stuff when RL takes you away from the game.

Challenging content simply means content that you can’t autoattack your way through to completion, where you have to look for tells and time your dodges. Where you need to have skill rotations spot on to keep sustain and DPS up. Where you have to juggle aggro in order to keep the party alive if someone stuffs up. Where highly involved theorycrafting for builds is required to push the meta in different ways.

GW2 lacks all of that right now except in its PvP.

Let’s be brutally honest here, GW2’s PvE is a joke.

We should get biweekly achievements in tandem with living story. Weekly is a bit much.

They should be randomized as well similar to the monthly achievements.

Most of WvW is balanced around 5-10 players actually. All keeps can be taken by 5, with the scaling making it really difficult past 10. SMC can be duo’d (did it once with mesmer + thief hiding inside waiting for RI to end). The fact that people group up to fight other large groups is only a side effect of what WvW brings. It’s definitely not balanced around zergs.

Boysenberry.1869:

Time to move the crafting stations to the ruins so people have to fight to craft their stuff!

That’s a good idea

Your particular trait build has a far bigger impact than ascended gear. If you’re dying to people in ascended, work on your trait builds and skills. If you just copied a build off the internet, then you will fail at it 90% of the time as it was not tailored to your play style.

chestonu.8059:

Instead of everyone expecting WvW to be made fair to accomodate -them-, maybe each server needs to take time to sit down with their server/guild leadership and ask… “What can we do better?”

Thank you, DivineBeing.2086 – TC has indeed been working hard to achieve what we have. We have -not- recruited new guilds, in fact we lost some. Yet for the grumbling, we dug deep, and decided to redouble our efforts to recruit new WvW players from within our server’s population, and train those that participate to help them be more effective.

I would say our efforts are paying off. I think the key is to do what you can with what you have, and set realistic, incremental goals.

Indeed, and for TC, this has paid off by coming third in Gold tier. Congrats

This is also what BG has done. Regardless of all those SoR trolls claiming we bought guilds (woo! 1 60 man guild that fields around 20-30 a night apparently crushed them so bad they lost 2 guilds), we also lost a huge chunk of our players just before seasons. We recruited people from Queensdale, FGS, Lion’s Arch etc. and trained them up in WvW, got them used to following commands in teamspeak, got them interested enough to be dedicated to the server. You can clearly see this during our off hours, with a huge chunk of players being militia rather than guild groups. Our success in rallying pugs to wvw is the secret to our overall performance in wvw.

Seems like the OP got stomped a few too many times during this season. I’d say join your server’s WvW community by joining their forums and teamspeak, and then actually participate rather than sit on the side lines not knowing what’s really going on.

EoTM with its… siege (red side), stupid movement debuff (blue side) and condi clear (green side)?

Yeah… no. It’s a horrible map for any competitive WvW because of the inherent imbalance of the map. It just lends itself to long drawn out siege wars if it makes it into actual WvW and fights will be near non-existent cause of the terrain

Holy crap ANet. All this could’ve been avoided if you guys did a public beta server. You guys NEED a public test server. Your QA is horrible and every patch gets released with bugs. You yourselves admit you need live players to find some bugs. Instead of releasing it to the game, get it tested first!

Well, to be honest, if you’re following the tag, the correct thing to do is to join their teamspeak server if they’re advertising one. Otherwise, get off that particular tag and follow someone else, or put up a tag yourself.

To be fair, each guild is different. Taking my own guild as an example – there was a pretty extended period of time where we ran 15-20 every night, training new players, theorycrafting builds etc. It wasn’t sustainable. It required too much effort for the leaders in the guild to maintain recruitment, show up for raids etc. and it was affecting my own RL (to the point where I had to extract myself from video gaming for a good month).

We recently moved servers and restructured the guild. We now run with 3-7 a night, but we have more fun, are more relaxed and actually enjoy WvWing a couple hours a night, a couple nights a week, compared to when we were on our previous server (a server all of us still consider “home”), where we were literally getting flamed in team and map chat every time we formed up, just because we wanted to do our own thing once in a while.

Have we found any new recruits from our new server? Nope. Doesn’t really bother me. Our guild is tighter than it has ever been before and we now chat with each other more outside of the game than inside. That, to me, is a bigger sign of success than just pure numbers.

Of course, there are other guilds that mass recruit, build up a massive community and carry the server from there (Tidal Legion comes to mind), but those are far and few in between. Most people don’t have the time and energy to maintain such a massive guild. It’s seriously a full time job. I was putting 7-9 hours a day into maintaining the guild when we were running 15-20 with a 80-90 man roster. Looking back on it, it’s just stupid how much time I’ve put into this game without enjoying it.

LadyRhonwyn.2501:

To those that are saying: buy a new PC:

Minimum specs for GW2 are:
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo 2.0 GHz, Core i3, AMD Athlon™64 X2 or better
NVIDIA® GeForce® 7800, ATI Radeon™ X1800, Intel HD 3000 or better
(256MB of video RAM and shader model 3.0 or better)

It should be playable (ok, not at the highest settings) with those specs. Right now, it apparently isn’t.

In small print underneath that, it says:
Due to potential changes, system requirements may change over time, and you may be required to upgrade your current system (or obtain a new system) to continue to play the game.

Always read the small print

Yeah, honestly, Gold tier is far more unbalanced than either Silver or Bronze. The difference between the top 3 and the next 3 is just huge. Any of the bottom 3 of Gold tier can double-team one of the top 3 and still lose.

I’m pretty sure that in Anvil Rock, you guys can muster up your PvE players enough to mount some kind of offensive in order to get a decent finish.

Maguuma has the right kind of attitude in Gold. They’re just there for the fights. I look forward to meeting them on the battlefield.

Logged off an hour into reset. This snit is terrible

You can turn the camera with either mouse button. You’re not using your mouse correctly. Don’t use it like a controller.

I agree it’s too strong right now, but honestly, it just needs 1 change

Make it blockable

A 20 second cooldown unblockable skill like epidemic is stupid

I’m gonna be blunt. I don’t really care how WvW is scored. What I want out of any scoring and reward system is for incentives for players to come out and fight at all hours of the day. If it disincentivises players from my time zone to play, then I’m basically going to leave GW2 because no fights = no enjoyment = no point playing the game.

We just had a whole bunch of people come back to the game due to recent stability change and alpine map rotation. Don’t take backward steps ANet.

You already can do raids. It’s called: join a hardcore WvW guild for PvP raids.

As for PvE, it’s pointless with AI mechanics in this game. Until they can simulate player behaviour in AI, it’ll remain as spam 1 and dodge red circles. There’s very few exceptions to this rule.

I would love to see a Liadri style boss permanently added to the game though

I hope this gets dev notice. This is dangerously close to pay-to-win. It’s buying power with gems – no matter how small that amount of power may be. They need to be disabled

WvW is more of a gameplay feature than a storyline feature.

I can’t remember the exact quote, but one of the NPCs outside of the portals in LA explains it quite well. The other servers are evil, and we must eradicate them. :P

Or, transfer across (EU <→ NA)

The big reason why people don’t transfer down is because of more action more of the time. Even though basically all of us hate pirate ship meta, having more active players around the clock makes it a better social experience than lower tiers.

Straegen.2938:

Ruins are kind of like defending… there isn’t much WxP, gold or karma in it, few points that count towards the server score and more sitting than action. In contrast, capping a camp is reasonably rewarding, counts toward the score and has a much better chance of finding a fight.

Ruins are a good concept but further illustrates how ANet really doesn’t get effective loot design.

If you give loot for capping ruins, you’ll see small zergs wandering around bloodlust to cap them, just like it was back in week 1-2 of leagues. Hell no.

6 months ago I would’ve said no to merge (and did, these merge threads have been popping up for a long time). Now? We need it badly. Current T1 populations match T3 or lower populations from last year. We can barely queue the 4 maps on reset (recent resets have seen 1 or 2 maps without a queue). 5-10 people can PVD an entire map during certain times of the day. If the game is dying at the top and dead at the bottom, something needs to be changed. Fast.

Just going to add for all the VIP haters since I actually have an account on all 3 regions for GW2, the VIP is bought via the gem store and is not a subscription. There are ways to get a days worth of VIP through in-game means and a 30 day VIP card for a fairly large amount of gems (relatively speaking, since China gem store prices are very different due to a different currency). You could literally farm dungeons for your VIP. There’s seriously nothing wrong with it. My China account has no VIP and my friends tell me not to bother since I’m a PvP/WvW player, as it only benefits PvE (porting to friend, insta bank access, bonus XP gain etc). Nothing else is restricted except sending in-game mails, which we have on the US/EU servers anyway

Imagine farming dungeons for VIP for a year just to get a precursor. That’s what you’re worried about. F- me

At least ANet are actively playing in World vs World now. ANet has claimed for, as far as I’ve observed, DB, TC, BG and YB. Having a more active role in WvW from the devs is a great thing.

I would much rather full glass cannon power players than full bunker condi players.

At least the glass cannon build has significant counter-play built in with the fact that they will die when you sneeze on them