Guild Wars 2

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

gennyt.3428:

Wait, people still read WvWvW patch notes?

Wait, ANet still bothers to post WvW patch notes?

Not Anet, silly, that one guy in a small deskroom who spends 10 minutes/month making up the patch notes for WvW, and rest of his time goes to nerfing classes.

Edit: +1 to y’all

Dark Catalyst.1028:

Zikory.6871:

Well firstly, at least not till the end of season 1. They said they won’t make any changes to WvW during this time. Other than that I doubt the will remove them at all…

To the point of brainless grinding, how so? I play WvW 95% time, probably have only done 2-3 things out side of WvW that gave mats for ascended items. I have 3 ascended weapons and almost enough mats for another 2 weapons (kitten youz dragonite!) Just to keep it in context, I only play about 2-3 hours a night…its not that hard to get with out grinding it…just takes longer…

Let me guess: One of those things you participated in outside of WvW was one of those 24/7 champ train blobs? Am I right? Stunning, enthralling, highly entertaining game design right there! WOW!

Hahaha I know really. It’s so great we get forced to run champs if we want to play WvW with BiS gear and want to prevent being killed by a noob PvE player who has full ascended cause he farms champs every day.

Truly. Best choice anet ever made…. not.

^Hahahahaha! Well said! I think that’s the feeling of about 70% of gw2 population. xD

snowaugar.1823:

Sirendor.1394:

snowaugar.1823:

Organized group > any zerg

Snow, that’s the theory, but it doesn’t work like that at all.

L2p I’ve done it plenty with my guild I even wiped 30 with 8 using 2 ward guards 2 staff ele a grenade engi 2 ballista and an ac pre ac buff choke points ftw

Well if you use siege. T-T Siege is for cowards as much as zergs.

Ermmm we already have this. It’s called World vs. World.

displacedTitan.6897:

MyriadStars.5679:

displacedTitan.6897:

MyriadStars.5679:

displacedTitan.6897:

Most MMO Xpacks are mandatory for continuing to play the game

For WoW, you don’t need to buy xpack to play the game.

Sure you don’t NEED it but you will be playing a single player game after about a week. Also like 99.9% of the content in WoW Xpacks are for Xpack only.

True, but this is probably not the reason why many people are not buying HOT. It seems that many people are not buying because they don’t think there is enough content in HOT. The amount of new content in a WoW xpac is really much more. I think people do have to play other MMOs to conclude that the content in HOT is less than a normal xpac.

Honestly, after reading the posts here, I start to wonder whether I have made a bad decision on preordering the game…

My most recent experience with an Xpack was FF14 and I can tell you the content in that Xpack is so much less than what is in HoT. They did the same thing with releasing Alex raid after the original Xpack launch, in addition they added less skills, less character progression (bigger numbers only), what looks like the same amount of story content and nearly ZERO for non xpack purchasers or casual players. Also its worth noting that most of the content in Heavensward and WoW Xpacks are maps and zones meant to level you up that you will NEVER go back to again, except on a new character for their levels.

Imagine of HoT was just adding 500 to each of your stats in exchange for ~20 hours of grinding through a couple linear story maps 10 or so times each.

This is what I meant by people here clearly don’t play MMOs typically, to say HoT has no content is a total lie. Every new map is endgame here and none of them are sacrificed for pure level grinding.

Ok wait… I am just reacting to this because I think you have a few things wrong.

1) Nobody said HoT has no content to offer. Of course it has content to offer, and it’s not bad content either. However it’s rational to wait for the hype to pass and try it out yourself when you are sure the value/content is okay, or possibly when it’s put on sale. You don’t lose anything by waiting, you can carry on playing the game without HoT or you can do something else. You do potentially lose something by buying it right off.

2) There’s no such thing as a “typical” MMO. Sure we can try to compare GW2 to WoW, Lineage, Tera, Lotro, but while these share certain characteristics, and so does Guild Wars 2, it’s still a very open concept, and the game industry is continuously developing based on what consumers want or what works. Typical grind mmos in my opinion are long past, because there’s more and more sandbox type games where you yourself define the game. The gaming industry can and will adapt to this, so MMO’s too will change. GW2 has taken many steps in the right direction already.

YES PLEASE! We need this to show players when events are.

Im Mudbone.1437:

8 man parties would be such a great improvement.

Greaaat… now there’s nothing in the ability system I even want. GG WvW abilities useless.

SCRAP IT ALL

• Eliminate levels and traits: every 80 with free gear and upgrades
• Make maps 10x bigger
• Let guilds truly OWN a castle, not just a fancy banner
• Guild vs. Guild instead of World vs. World
• Delete EotM until you get a fix for karmatraining
• many more changes needed based on suggestions that have been ignored for a long time

Silv.9207:

Kasteros.9847:

Silv.9207:

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It’s a Buy to Play, not a Pay to Win, it’s a little but deep difference.
Do you wanna TRY the game? Play it Free!
Do you wanna PLAY this game, with it’s Full Potential? Buy it!

If you play as a free player you’re not playing GW2, you’re playing a FREE VERSION of GW2, a version that Don’t allow you to play all the game and don’t allow you to play at best.

Is it a Pay to Win? NO, ABSOLUTLY NO!

1. You just gave the very definition of P2W.
2. I bought the core game, so I’m not a ‘free player’, that is “trying” the game.

+1 You have a gift Lishten.

Best
- Combat: smooth, reactionary and very vibrant feel
- Areas: most of them look absolutely stunning, big thumbs up for the graphics designers
- Music: just adds to the feeling for me. It all fits, makes me feel back in the Tyria of Guild Wars 1.

In between
- Dungeons: could be better, too repetitive, not enough in quantity
- PvP in general: it’s fun, but has been ignored and neglected since launch: lack of game modes, lack of diversity, not enough customization overall.

Worst
- Crafting… it’s just pointless in this game. It doesn’t feel like you’re doing anything other than ‘playing the UI’ (certainly not playing the game). Most gear is also cheaper to just buy.
- Open world: boring, zergy, badly designed
- Story: stereotype, bland

Why for some obnoxious reason have all the inhabitants of the different borderlands decided to build their houses in just the same position as the other ones? Did they think to be unique? Let players change the maps, making them not screaming “CLONE” anymore.

Please make it like skill unlock in PvP. They are automatically unlocked. Make the new traits automatically unlocked too, only in PvP. PvP should always stay free of requirement, and absolute equality of power.

Don’t allow power creep in pvp!

HiddenNick.7206:

Is it? I don’t want to make any verdict myself. I’m just honestly asking. Because I think that AN wanted to achieve few things with living world. And I’m wondering if they’ve succeeded.

If the purpose of Living Story was to scare players away, it’s working.

EotM could perfectly be a good game mode, IF NOT for the attitude of the people playing it. Right now it’s the homebase of people who are not there for PvP but for easy loot. It’s rather disappointing from the point of view of PvP players that this map is being used for farming instead of using it for what it’s been made.

So I would say the “hate” is not so much directed at the map, but at the way it’s used for a farm.

But didn’t you know, warrior IS back! I am playing warrior all the time now,… on the forums.

/sarcasm

Azala Yar.7693:

Sounds quite boring and I used to do something like it myself. It’s especially boring if you do it frequently, this game was supposed to be fun.

I think this is one of the biggest problems with the game: to earn money you need to do boring things. What happened to play the way you like?

Isn’t it about time we call the “back-on-topic-brake”?

Lets face the facts:

• An unknown percentage of players is fine with ascended.
• An unknown percentage of players considers it the step towards even more grinding.
• Group 1 disagrees with Group 2 and Group 2 disagrees with Group 1
• Group 1 is satisfied with Guild Wars 2 and will continue playing until they are bored.
• Group 2 has the feeling Anet lied to it’s customers (them) and is untrue to their earlier adopted viewpoints.
• Both groups have arguments for their position, based on their opinions and preferences. Both are correct in liking/disliking grinding.
• One thing that is undeniably true from Group 2’s viewpoint is that ArenaNet made Guild Wars 2 more grindy than it was in the beginning.

One way or another, Arenanet will loose part of it’s playerbase to this.

I agree with the OP that legendaries shouldn’t be rewarded for brainlessly farming gold, cause that doesn’t make it legendary in ANY way. I think completing story would be a fine enough idea to earn your precursor, but in order for this to work: make more variety in legendary weapons. If there are like 200 of them, you can’t complain that everyone has the same one.

It is not fine, not for PvE nor for PvP. I have supported the idea of body-blocking before and will again because that is about the only solution to stacking, the bad design that is killing both PvE (dungeons) and WvW.

Cornellious.1435:

Posts in the same theme of this one are fairly common on these forums, however they generally get caught up in the specifics. This generally leads to people coming to defend GW2 by attacking each specific detail without really understanding the author’s point of view. With this post I hope to ( by analogy ) describe the deep feeling of dissatisfaction that I, and I think many others, have with the game.

I started playing this game during the open beta weekends, and I was enormously excited about the game. On release myself and about twelve real life friends joined the game. For a couple months everything seemed great. We had a decent list of in game friends, we had a dungeon running guild that was doing well. People were having fun, exploring, and doing new dungeons.

Then people started to leave, over the next couple of months my friends list had dried up, and of the twelve people who started with me only one of them was still around. I don’t believe it was any one thing that drove people out. People would log in, and you would ask them what they wanted to do; they wouldn’t have a clear answer. “We could run a dungeon I guess” they would say halfheartedly, only we had all run the dungeons many times, and had acquired all the gear we really wanted.

As I stated in my opening paragraph, I would like to leave out the specifics and try to get to heart of my feelings with the game. To get to the heart of things I would like to compare GW2 to a local pub.

Imagine you find a nice local pub near you. The beer is strong, delicious, and satisfying; the tables, floor, and bar are a beautiful weathered hardwood. The shelf behind the bar is filled with quality spirits, some you’ve never even heard of, but all taste great. The floor is dusty, and the air is filled with laughter; the place feels like home.

Over time you start noticing a change coming over the bar. Every time you come back the beer is just a little bit weaker, and just a little more expensive. Every time you look at the shelf of spirits, the selection appears less varied, and more generic. There are less people around, and you don’t recognize many of them, but they seem to be happy. Maybe you are just imagining things.

Unfortunately things keep going the same way, you start wondering if there is any beer left in the water you are drinking. The spirits available are all generic name brand, and cheap; all of them are hidden under the bar. The bar food tastes like it came out of a package. You look around and wonder if the people there are drinking the same thing you are. Some of them look satisfied, many of them are staring blankly into their watery half filled mug. Few of them are talking to anyone, the bar itself still looks as good as it always did, but somehow it now feels cold, and uninviting.

Is what we have really what we actually want? Is the direction the game has been going something you would like to see on into the future?

I feel that if the beer was stronger and the spirits more varied, the people who have stayed will continue to stay, they may even be happier than before. The people that have long since left might return. Arenanet, please try to find the soul of the game again, the game is too beautiful to be treated as harshly as it has this past year. It feels like GW2 is in a race, and 10 meters from the finish line it sat down and started building sand castles. Some of the sand castles are pretty impressive, but the finish line is right there and the other racers are catching up. You can build more sand castles later.

This is an artwork, with a lot of passion mixed in the paint. I love it and yes, I feel completely the same. I can’t bring myself to log in anymore, because I fear I’ll find something worse each time: less people on the guild roster each time; more people stacked at LA bank each time; more zergs in WvW each time; awkward memories from the time the game still felt like a 2nd home and all my friends were with me.
It’s saddening

Harper.4173:

Who exactly is stopping you from forming your own " no stacking " party and going at the content that way?
Nobody.

“Who exactly is stopping you from forming your own “no armour in world vs. world” party and going at the content that way? Nobody."

Hurrrr durrrr.

Septemptus.7164:

Just go earn money, go earn money, go earn money, then buy an item.
Yes!!!!! That was MY legendary adventure!!!

Nope. There is no exclusivity in that, nothing legendary about that etc.
That is why legendaries don’t have a meaning now.

If legendaries would have some exclusiveness due to a hard process of making one game wise not only grind wise , GW2 would benefit a lot from people that like threating game more hardcore way and it’s needed for players to have a trophies with them.

Nothing more to add.

Those saying legendaries are fine where they are now are completely wrong, because there is, as Sept says, nothing legendary about them. There’s a big difference between hard (challenging, heroic, epic, truly achieving) and time-consuming (grindy, TP flipping, spamming 1 button in a zerg). I will take the heroic, scavenging epic quest over grinding gold in a champion train each and every time.

Do I have a legendary? No, because I don’t value something that requires you to give up your life in an “epic quest for 3000 gold” and that isn’t even fun.

^They don’t have to make the auto-attack mandatory, just allow some players who don’t like smashing buttons all the time to use it. Your sum-up is rather selfish.

At the moment they look pretty standard, pretty rudimental too. The only weapon of them that has a nice look is the shield.

Pariah.8506:

Xae Isareth.1364:

Sirendor.1394:

I’d like to add aswell: totally alt-unfriendly: if you have 5 level 80s (I know people with as much as 10):

• You need to max all armour and all weapon crafts:
  - 6×200g artificer, huntsman, weaponsmith, leathworker, armoursmith, tailor.
  - 6×60g for armour per character: 5×360g
  - 5×60g: lets take 5 weapons (I know that isn’t much) per character: 5×300g

In total you’d need
1200g (crafts) + 1800 (armour) + 1500 (weapons): 4500g

Do you get the picture?

The thing is, do you need to? If we split the playerbase into 2 types, the type that plays for progression and goals, and the type that just plays for fun.

Plays for fun: you don’t need ascended gear to do anything. Sure it would be nice to have it but nothing needs Ascended items in the game. Why would you NEED Ascended gear for alts?

Plays for progression: if you just make Ascended items equate to Exotics (ie, gets handed to you on a silver plate) then there’s nothing for a lot those people to achieve.

If it isn’t NEEDED then guess what, it shouldn’t have been introduced in the first place!
It’s not like this game is perfectly fine in every single aspect to warrant a time investment of the devs to create a new tier gear that ISN’T NEEDED.

I’m going to connect with this argument. Technically gear progression isn’t needed. To make it understandable let me use a comparative approach:

PvE: Ascended are redundant:

• Player A has Exotic gear – He’s fighting a PvE environment.
• In only one case Ascended gear is needed: fractals, since you need agony resistance.
• There is no need for ascended gear in any other part of the PvE world.
  QED: Ascended in PvE are redundant except for fractals

PvP: Ascended are redundant:

• PvP = Players fighting players, to see who’s the better fighter (therefore they need to have the same means: armour/weapons/…)
• Player A has Exotic gear – He’s fighting Player B who has Exotic gear too.
• Player A & B are on an equal footing.
• Ascended are now the highest tier armour.
• ArenaNet wants all their players to get ascended armour.
• Player C has Ascended gear – He’s fighting Player D who has Ascended gear too.
• Player C & D are on an equal footing.
  QED: Ascended make no difference in PvP so long as everyone has them (which was clearly the intention of Anet).

The problem we see: not near everyone in this game will be able to get ascended gear as it is. Does Anet wish to make their PvP unbalanced? Apparently that is the only solution to this paradigm. But then it is no longer something called competitive, and it serves no use at all. > WvW would become useless if we accept that not everyone can get ascended gear after an acceptable amount of effort.

I’m going to refute this: Arenanet has no advantage of making their PvP unbalanced.
So ascended are redundant.

Also, next expansion, everyone jump on the next elite generation of elite specialisations, because it will probably be SUPER DUPER OP mode too.

#LegitMarketing

STRanger.5120:

Well, imagine the likely to occur situation:

You’ve crafted your nice ascended armor set, weapon and bought all the trinkets you needed. Then suddenly, a balance patch comes out and all your precious gear is useless with the altered builds for your class.

Nice idea, right?
So no, as long as crafted ascended gear (well maybe with the exception of weapons, because Legendary) won’t have changeable stats, I’m not interested at all…. Especially because I’m an Ele player and gear already occupies 1/4 of my inventory, which sucks hard….

Hey now… no need to be elitist. I have 6 gear sets on my guardian for WvW. Weapons specific per set-up included. The whole ascended fiasco is a disaster for players like us.

Love all the thumb ups in this thread. Looks like more of PvE is coming into SPvP… keep those mindless farmers in their dungeons please. We’re fine with them not playing PvP. Shoo.

Agreed: I have this problem with alts most of the time. I like to play a character that looks good, not wearing level 1 gear… so each time I level 5-10 levels more, I need to transmute everything or give up on my looks…
I find this very, very annoying.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I don’t know how many brand new players would take on a Champion anyway, just starting out. It is true you can accidentally spawn the Troll, but previously, you would likely just have been defeated, and left it until you were more experienced.

Hell, I remember my first week playing the game. The champions seemed so awesome, so hard and it often took a whole group of players to get it down. Champions right now are just badly scaled and broken. Stack and zerg is all required to kill it. In the beginning of the game NOBODY stacked or zerged.

It felt like a challenge, like a real fight, now it feels like butchering a HP bag.

The suggestions thread is full of interesting additions to the game. Frequently new threads spawn up about the same topic. Lets make a clear overview for the Anet Developers so they can see what is ‘most wanted’ by the crowd.

N°1- Combat templates (traits, weapons…): 13 votes
N°2- New weapons per class & customizable weapon skills: 13 votes
N°3- New & better weapon and armour skins: 8 votes

The top 3 will be updated often! Please continue

Heh. Our perfect team was:

• Gs/Lb warrior
• Gs/Lb warrior
• Medi guard
• Grenade engi
• Shatter mes

With that combo we wiped anyone. Mes and engi were on the defense. Guard and the 2 Wars constantly fighting the other players for the heroes and killing lord.

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Just a handful of the threads on the same topic:

• https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/New-Race-1/3846103
• https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/New-Races-1/5282548
• https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/New-Race/4732111
• https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Potential-new-races-to-play-as/6142702

The discussion is always the same:

• We should have new races.
• Everyone agrees (except about which race first).
• People point out the relative cost to produce one new race versus several new profs or specializations or living story.

tl;dr everyone wants new races, but they aren’t a good long-term investment for the game

“Everyone” is a bit of a stretch. People don’t support the alternate races already in game and humans remain the overwhelming choice, despite the efforts to make them less attractive. So… why bother with another?

Asura master race… bookah!

Cactus.2710:

Let’s see now … design a game where population and coverage trumps strategy and skill, then create matchups between factions (servers) that have completely uncontrolled populations, and then throw in some randomization just to spice things up.

Who would have ever thought that wouldn’t work well??

Hahaha, most sarcastic post ever

You can toy with amulets all you want, but they will not SOLVE anything. Nerf elite specs, balance your game.

/thread

Looks like grenade autoattack is the dominant wish:

Cameirus.8407
JoxerNL.3752
Zenguy.6421
KratosAngel.7289
tigirius.9014
Sirendor.1394
Frightlight.3796
Erdem.8956
The Pork Chop Xprss.3152
Kain Francois.4328

Just because that artwork is perfect… LIKES

Naus the Gobbo.5172:

Vayne.8563:

I’m 54…but I feel like I’m 108. lol

All is Vayne.

Muhahah. Never forget.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/gf-left-me-coz-of-ladderboard/first#post3350685

I’m looking for a server with a lot of small group roamers, possibly no zergs or as few as possible. I’m totally disgusted by the blobbers.

MrFluffy.9307:

so this is what goes through the mind of your kind in WvW ._.

Hahah. Exactly what I thought.

PvE’rs are a strange species.

I couldn’t agree more with OP.

Two other suggestions:
- If you make elite specs available to everyone… please bring the elite specs back in line with core specs… this is really just boring, everyone runs elite specs because they’re overpowered, no variety or diversity.
- Detach the weapons and utility skills from the trait lines. Binding them together was a really bad idea, because now you are forced into a trait line to equip a certain weapon, puts too many limits on gameplay.

Edit: maybe it should just be a small purchase, say 15-20 euros for the standalone PvP game, so the devs can get some revenue from that (I wouldn’t mind)?

Ravenmoon.5318:

If WWII taught is anything, that is in real life, the numbers matter.

Numbers have a right to matter…but they’re not the only thing that should matter.

+1 aswell, not color-blind, but I can totally understand how you feel.

April last chance for me to really get into the game again. They say they will bring a feature update after the Living story ends (which is in may), so it better be good and worthy of a GW1 sequel. If it’s more ascended or legendary trash, I’ll be gone.

Thalador.4218:

Nick.6972:

As the title implies, do you like open world zerging? Or would you rather prefer instanced content?

Instanced content ala GW1 all the way. Challenging, neither short nor too long, awesome, interesting.

Would be nice if we got content with party-size increase to 8 or 12.

Agree with this. Guild Wars 1 required 100x more skill than the average zerg boss killing.

sparc.3649:

erKo.9586:

Where did u get this info? They should start reading the forums and they would understand what they have to do with WvW – starting with taking back old maps.

lolz, NO

New maps are VERY welcomed!

Welcomed by a tiny minority.. if you saw that petition, on first day 150 people supported it.

I am sorry, what? So, because you are so bad in PvP that you die when your oversized dorito dooshebag dies, commanders need to be buffed? If you die, because your dorito dooshebag dies, that means one thing and one thing only: you are an even bigger dooshebag. Learn to use your brains, please, and step out of the zerg.

#PvEmasterrace

If someone out there is assassinating commanders… please do invite me over to the party. I will happily participate, solely for the joy of annoying the aforementioned dooshebags.