Guild Wars 2

just let the thread die

I’m not debating if it’s true or not … Anet told us with their own words why they introduced leather farm and it was related to the lack of options to obtain it. The cost is not the problem that Anet is addressing with the leather farming instance. The cost is just a function of supply and demand and there was never any claim that the leather farm would address it. If anything, I think prices will go up, but I’m not going to elaborate on why I think that.

If leather drops for the people that do the leather farm, it’s doing what it was intended to do. That’s not a failure. It’s not price related at all, because we already know that there are significantly more effective ways to earn more gold and purchase the leather you want than any reasonable farm could provide in the same time for the base mats themselves.

I mean, if your definition of successful farm is if it’s ‘worth the time’, then that would completely destroy all leather as a commodity worth trading, because ‘worth the time’ indicates to me, that it should yield as much leather from the farm as you could get earning gold and buying it in the same time.That’s the worst possible situation Anet could create. Leather would cease to be worth trading as a commodity.

No.

Stand The Wall.6987:

a lot of people don’t like to be forced to use siege, as siege vs siege is really boring. braindead boring. zombie braindead boring.

there ya go I just explained the point of the thread to ya.

Do you realise that without siege, WvW would just be a huge K-train of zergs punching gates/walls while defenders aren’t able to do anything unless they match the enemy numbers numbers? (Somenthing that is quite rare these days)
Honestly, siege isn’t even THAT powerful as you people claim. Most siege is pretty useless since Meteor Shower can hit 90% of the siege placements, while the other 10% can be avoided. The only times siege is powerful is when the enemy already have the numbers to push you, which is just sillyness from their part since they could have jumped out and fought already. However, that’s not to blame on siege but on the players themselves.

How DARE Anet pay their employees to build a whole new map and charge MONEY for people to access it! How VERY DARE they! A whole new map for TWO DOLLARS? Anet should be giving everything away for free! Who ever heard of game developers needing money for their hard work to put food on the table! Outrageous I say!

(I’m just assuming the price is the same as before? 200 gems per episode I think? Which is like $2.50 USD? Or Like 60 gold or something so you don’t even have to pay real money? First world problems much?)

Impulsive.8240:

You reminded me of a necro who was sitting on a mortar shot to stack burning and then transferring them to someone else, lo and behold, you’re dead!

Which is very clever. Why would you want to punish this? It’s by far better gameplay then to headbutt and 100blade someone.

PS: This thread is the perfect excuse to dig up one of my favorite GW2 videos on YouTube:

Now quit your whining OP. :’)

Def. Chuck Norris. So good, he retains the rank one title even after four years of decay.

We got any mind readers in the house? If you’re going to ask for a redesign you should present a design or at least point out the problems that need to be fixed. What exactly needs to be redone? There’s a jumping puzzle area and arena area.

If they are going to redo OS, first thing they should think about is making it open to green/blue/red sides than servers like eotm. So people can go there to fight and not be restricted by tiers.

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Hey Fellow PvPers,

Today, I’d like to discuss a really annoying topic that gets the throbbing vein in my brain really fired up! The topic is with regards to giving up when you see names of popular players on the opposite team.

See, I’m by no means a top tier Peeveepeer (Ahem got to Legendary with just Core Necro though Ahem) but there’s one thing I always welcome when it stands in front of me; a challenge. And when a challenge like a stacked team is in front of me, my blood runs hot with anticipation….. only to be completely crushed by the words “Stacked team, going afk” …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………I MEAN FOR GOODNESS SAKE! Do you have ANY desire to be good at PvP? Even if you don’t, beating them would earn you a ton of rating! I mean COME ON!! Even if you lose, make them earn that win! Seriously! What do you earn from just giving up and rolling over? I’m really asking, what do you earn? Just don’t queue ranked if all you’re looking for is an easy match. Just go unranked or Hot-join! Actually maybe Hot-join is too hard for you, how about Dragon Arena instead? Actually that might also be too hard, maybe Keg Brawl, yea definitely Keg Brawl, go play that.

So many times I’ve had Helseth or Rom or Drazeh on my team and I’ve lost because the other team didn’t just bend over and fall because “Oh look it’s that popular streamer! Better go bow to him and give him burnt offerings because he’s Jesus.” I mean seriously guys! COME ON!

Sick and tired of the wannabe PvKittens who just crumble and fall at the sight of any popular player. It’s sad, it’s dumb and it needs to stop.

Not-so-kind Regards,
Ceimash.

Still not sure how someone could honestly support the idea of selling WvW invulnerability…let alone for 300g.

“I bought a commander tag so no one should be allowed to attack me!”

OMG OSU is a whiney guy. There is a simple solve OSU. get good. I have watched KEK zerg and when you are always out leaping front of your zerg, it easy to pick you out regardless of being anonymous. I LOVE pin sniping guys like you because you make it so easy.
First off, there is a delay between when you say something and your people react. Realize that and don’t jump so far out in front of your zerg.
Second, have backup commanders. You are not in a small guild so get some of your other guys prepared to command when you go down. It should be seamless. Look at how KRTA does it on your server.
Third, bring a thief into your party and he/she can use stealth to hide you which makes people like me have to find you all over again or bring a druid that can heal you faster than they can kill you.
OR, miracle of miracles, DONT RUN A GUARDIAN!! Warrior is tankier anyway.
You always run 30+ anyway so just get a sniping crew in your guild. One group of a full zerk ranger, 2 thieves, a Mesmer and a necro should be able to consistently take out a commander who is always out front like you every time in just a few seconds after zergs collide.
Its part of the game and always will be so you can either get good or get dead. It’s your choice.

Xca.9721:

Locuz.2651:

U are at the rating where u belong. Enough games played, 50ish% winrate, 10ish points won/lost per game.

Why do u want to get out of the place where u belong?

At 800 rating its super super easy to carry. To deny that means you just lie to yourself. If u cant carry it means u are close to where u belong.

Its harsh but the truth.

obviously you dont know what you are talking about. I started at 600 and now i am at 850. How do you carry a team that is trio capping close at the beginning of the game? I mean of course im climbing but you cant just carry every game

If this is the case, I’d be genuinely curious to have you record a match or two and posting them.

megilandil.7506:

no, skyhammer is not fine, they had several points with port bugs exploitable for ranged classes to trhow damage whithout retaliation

You do realize that every map has port immunity areas, specifically to offer kiting options for ranged?

megilandil.7506:

Crinn.7864:

megilandil.7506:

no, skyhammer is not fine, they had several points with port bugs exploitable for ranged classes to trhow damage whithout retaliation

You do realize that every map has port immunity areas, specifically to offer kiting options for ranged?

kitting is not stay on place without moving in an advantage point laying ranged aoe in capt point

You can easily get up to them the same way they got there. Or you could push/pull them off.

Fluffball.8307:

Xca.9721:

i love kyhlo, but i get it like 1 out of 20 matches cause everyone votes for skyhammer/legacy…

Khylo is awful for professions that can’t teleport. If they remove any map it should be that one. Or give everyone a special action key teleport for the map…

then they should also give Aoe spam skills and high sutain to class that dont have it for skyhammer. your logic makes absolutly no sense.

Rangerdeity.5847:

the kitten does it matter? unless anet starts handing out heroic badges to servers on victories even the winner doesnt get even a participation trophy.

What determines match ups and your servers “strength”?

Glicko.

What affects Glicko?

Points gained and score difference.

So for the uneducated out there, a 2-1-1 system will rank 3rd and 2nd place servers closer together even if the reality is the 3rd place server is woefully undermanned to fight either. Instead of going down and fighting servers they should or the stronger one’s going up we end up with more and more blow out matches as score deviation is much smaller.

This is why people talk about PPT and don’t neglect it unless you’re a server hopper in which case all servers are disposable to you.

Nikkinella.8254:

Divine.3279:

Xillllix.3485:

Divine.3279:

Would like to point out that this meta in my honest opinion has been one of the greatest we’ve had so far.

Unless you’re an elementalist and can only heal others with the 1 viable build while dodging like a monkey.

You know there’s other viable builds for elementalist? No one forces you to run meta. Meta just means the most popular and flavor of the month, and the elementalist meta is mainly run because IT IS THE BEST support as of right now. But no one absolutely forces you to run it.

Viable below gold/plat where you can fight bad players that dont know when to dodge. If you are playing anything besides healbot on ele, you’re a free kill to any player with a fraction of skill on any other class. Try getting to legendary on s/f fresh air ele, let me know how that goes for you.

People have actually got on legendary on s/f fresh air ele or some other weird builds. You have to remember about 45% of winning is your build, the other 55% is the person behind the screen’s skill.

If free to play player is in platinum, then he has the skills to be in platinum. Dont blame others for your loss or lack of skills.

The satire is thick in this thread.

all i see is a Henry-bait

1. Crude comparisons are useless.
Comparing certain skills across classes is a useless endeavor. Comparing thief’s Channeled Vigor to say, ranger’s Troll’s Urgent will get you nowhere when you try to claim one of the two are overpowered. The skill itself matters very little to the question of its balance in the game. What matters is the synergy, that’s why all the buffs to ele, for example, are useless. They do not deal with synergy, just with numbers at face value. Signet of Air’s buff was good, and the skill now is amazing, yet you see actually 0 people using it in ranked because it does not play into the meta. It offers no counterplay to the current meta’s speed. This could also be said about your proposed buffs. Buffing thief’s s/d (for example) will be useless because s/d was good in a slow meta, where it fits. This meta would chew up and spit out any and every s/d thief that comes near it. Before stating your proposed game changing buffs, analyze the meta and where all classes fit to see if your changes would actually impact the game in a positive way.
2. Don’t let your emotions guide you.
Usually when someone gets stomped by a very strong build or skill, they jump right onto the forums and complain about how powerful the build or skill is. Don’t be that guy. That guy will say something insane like, “Moa 2 stronk, pls delet” and expect to be respected by any of the player base, let alone be taken seriously by the game developers. This game is very intricate in its design. In fact, it’s the most intricate game I’ve ever played in my entire life, and this may hold true for the next decade. To cloud your critical thinking faculties and to take effort away from your logical thinking ability is a 1 way ticket to be laughed off of the forums.
3. Treat the devs like human beings.
Do not lower yourself to the rank of a sycophant just to get the attention and consideration of devs, and most definitely do not call each and every dev a moron because they do not think the way you do. The job of a dev for this game is incredibly hard. It’s the type of job where a few buffs to a class could change the entire meta. Where multiple buffs to a class could do nothing at all, and maintaining the role of each trait and skill for the sake of not warping the goal entirely. You’ll have to buff, but not too much. You’ll have to nerf, but not too much. And they’ve been doing this job for a while, whether it be a good job or not. Do not assume that you are better than they are because you can theory craft an amazing build. We all can. Maybe the build isn’t healthy for the meta.
4. Be open to criticism.
I’m not saying that you must pretend to be happy that someone said that you are a brain dead novice who can’t stay on a node long enough to get out of bronze. I’m saying that if someone has a genuine argument against your propositions, read them, consider them, and decide if they are valid or not. Do not simply assume you are right and near omniscient enough to deduce the health of your balance suggestions. If you think Warrior is broken OP, read peoples’ reasons as to why they disagree. Do not expect that the first person to read your post will be a dev, and do not think that a dev will read it at all. These are the forums. The main consumers of the conversations here are other players. See their point of view.
5. Do not expect change.
This last point ties in with all the previously mentioned points. Do not think that you will bring on a game changing nerf or buff to something that will end up making you happy (or ultimately not). This website is mainly for discussion, theory crafting, helping people, and most importantly, collaboration between players. Once you have rid your mind that the devs will come to a consensus and follow everything you proposed, you will end up making more logical threads that could actually influence change.
(by the way, I know that I’ve broken basically all these rules before, no need to mention that)

You bunch of ingrates.
They wanted to give you mobile cannons and you didn’t want it.
They wanted to give you repair hammers and you didn’t want it.
They gave you scoring changes all you do is argue over numbers 3 2 1 2 1 1 5 4 3 100 99 98.
They proposed more worlds to dying wvw and you said no.
Then people wanted mercenary worlds which is the same but you can’t agree on it because identity crisis.
Anet proposes 1 dbl 2 alp, you say no, vote says yes, anet checks on scrapping dbl, you say no, anet checks for 1 dbl 2 alp again, you say yes.
Then cry about veterans not playing for 2 years didn’t get a fair vote, you need bunch of ranks and a bunch of wvw hours to vote, you cry the vote was rigged cause pve players care about a wvw map.
Then you cry about the empty red borderland when the other two borderlands are also empty, while ebg is over queued every night.
You cry for population balance, they lower the threshold to keep bigger worlds from getting bigger, you cry about it to players from 20+ dead servers, we’re gonna die if we don’t open up!
They gave you golem week and you cried about a minor golem buff exploit.
They gave you some new commander tag colors and you cry about every other color not available.
They gave you reward tracks and you complain about not getting a legendary backpack.
They put gift of battle in the track and you complain about not getting a years notice before so you can buy it with free badges.
They took away crafting stations and you cry about not being able to skip a loading screen.
They gave you you a “big giant sized” guild hall with a “small dinky” arena to do your gvg’s and you cry about it.
They reorganized the wvw upgrades into your guild halls and you complain about the minor cost of spending months in pve.
They gave you fun to use banners and you complain about it being op.
They gave you extra upgrades to scout for you and all you do is complain about small groups.
Big fancy airships to make the big castle in the middle of ebg feel more epic you cry about it killing you every 15 mins.
They put a big fat cannon in the middle of dbl to promote fights every 3 hours, you cry about lag so they take it away, and then you cry about it being empty and no bloodlust.
They gave you new elite specs to freshen up classes after 3 years of getting old and boring, and you cry about imbalance pfft like that didn’t exist before.
They gave you boons to counter the increased damage but you complained no one was dying, so they fixed it after months and months and months of hard testing, and then you complain about dying to conditions.
They made conditions good so you don’t feel limp in zerg fights and now you complain about spreading it.

Pfft.

vorpal.1497:

It’s hard to get excited after begging for a feature for 3-4 years

They were not asking you to be excited.