Guild Wars 2

Can’t be bothered. Doesn’t make ~that~ big of a difference.

Min/Max’ing when I just started MMO’s was the thing to do… now it’s just cumbersome each time new gear / items come out…. and it’s not “That” big of a difference. It really isnt’.

Min/Max’ers will tell you it is, because it’s an ego issue more often than not.

I’ve done jsut fine w/o being a min/max’er.

~Statement~

If you want to attempt to be “the best”, then you should probably min/max. If you want to win 80% of your fights, you do not need to min/max.

Choose your battles.

EDIT: Guardians are not the best min/max’ing class in WvW. The second it gets over small roaming groups, zerker guardian survivability take a MASSIVE nose dive and min/maxing isn’t “Optimal”.

little ceasar.9254:

Skill+optimal gear > skill

If you believe a 5-7% difference in Stat distribution is going to make or break something… GG.

Adding some Celestial Trinkets are fine.

Nice work, though I disagree w/ you on Battle Pressence. =]

Bash.7291:

Won’t be playing ESO though And hey, I have only thrown the Idea out there like… at least 20 times. I am sure maybe 80 more will finally get something to happen!

Misplaced Optimism, must like that of our hope they revitalize the guardian from it’s stale state.

lol – we’ll never learn, cuz we care.

LetoII.3782:

Reverence.6915:

Celestial

Never.
OP consider spending a moment browsing the Guardian forum.

Nothing wrong w/ Celestial Trinkets. I’ve ran them in GvG’s just fine.

Skill > Gear.

Bash.7291:

Change shattered aegis to 3 stacks of bleed, give radiance torment on crit, keep burning, add in sigils OMG CONDITION SPEC. Too bad apparently that is just too hard to do.

Now you’re just being silly Bash.

Take your reasonable, well thought out and balanced suggests to ESO. Anet isn’t listening… we’re the “Minority”.

Funny thing is, being the top 2% is the minority and who doesn’t listen to the top 2%?

Oh wait… Anet.

Carpboy.7145:

I know Anet desperately wants condi guard to be a thing, and i think after this patch it could definitely be viable. Doom sigils/perplex runes, with 30/30/0/0/10 mix of rabid/carrion. Dont forget retaliation is basically a new condition unique to guardians now with 30 radiance. Its also unclean sable and punishes a lot for multi hit attacks/fast attacks

With no Sustain on a Condi build, the build will fail. Necro’s can do it because of Life Force and 25k hps. They don’t need +healing or regen.

Do this to a guardian and you’ll be obliterated due to the simple fact that we dont’ have enough HP"s to wait for our Condi’s to spread.

Anet can’t figure it out (They’ve publicly stated this) and won’t listen to it’s playerbase TO figure it out.

Hunter.4783:

its the same thing as saying: here you go guys, passive GM trait cuz we have no idea what to do with honor.

Yep, and cuz we just absolutely needed 15% Endurance Regen…. AS A GRANDMASTER…. /cough ranger 5pts… /golfclap.

No one will touch the Honor GM, as if you’re bunker you’re most likely running w/ 20k+ hp as it is.

No one will even consider Virtue GM… 15% End Regen over STABILITY or CC Break? Are you kidding me?

No one will touch the Valor GM… Um, 1 block every 20s VS my only true self sustaining traits? lawl

Zeal & Radiance are decent traits, but they are not GM Traits and the builds to use these (which they would be good if traiting a 30/30/x/x/x) is non-existent… There is ZERO sustain within these traits and running around with 11k hp and 2200 armor as a guardian w/ no soft CC, poor mobility outside of GS/S+F, and no lockdown methods….

Ha. Just lol.

And don’t give me that crap that we have “Blocks”… that’s good for the 1v1 and 1v2 scenario (yes, it’s quite good and I absolutely agree), but for anything other it’s utter junk. GARBAGE…

Blinds are good, but then again, you’re stuck with GS + S/F…. what about the Mace, Hammer, Torch, Scepter, Shield, Staff…. There’s no blinds on those… and to say that the compensating boons/utility of those weapons outshines Blinds would be absolutely ridiculous… because if I’m DPS, the regen will tick for another 120pts, the Protection (if you get it off) will last 2s and the knockbacks are so far spread out w/ the long cooldowns…. why even bother?

So disappointed.

Aegis should have been a Master Zeal Trait, to pair it up with Shattered Aegis.

I can safely say the Dev’s really dont’ get it.

They are FORCING the use of 2 Trait lines?

Everyone, EVERYONE, has stated time and time again, Valor and Honor are FINE. In fact, they’re really really good…. SO STOP kittenING WITH THEM AND FOCUS.

Change what’s needed ANET. Zeal & Radiance. Provide some sustain within those trees, allow us to EFFECTIVELY spec into a DPS build w/o sacrificing EVERYTHING to get to standard deeps that every other class has… because 11k HP and a 79 hps Resovlve is NOT kittenING SUSTAIN.

WvW → Apply to Scenario’s larger than 3vX

Devs: “Guards need Condi, let’s just increase their burning damage, that should make them happy”….

Everyone: “WTF are they doing to this class?”

Devs:“Giving you Condi options!”

Everyone: “Riiiiiiiight”. /re-roll /Eso.

Nabuko Darayon.9645:

Go do the frikin Hearts/DE’s/Explroe the World! WHy is everyone so obsessed with getting to lvl 80 with tomes/crafting. Even if you get it to 80 you still need Waypoints to move around

Because we dont’ like mind-numbing pve? It’s ok the 1st go around, in fact, it’s very fun and exciting.. well worth the enjoyment… but to do it again? /wrists

This exercise is boring. There’s 100’s of pages of suggestions for the Devs.

If they can’t figure it out by now… well, ESO is just around the corner.

When you have CC, you have Diminishing Returns: All problems solved.

Anet fails at this, which is why there has been a massive exodus.

./remove head from @$$

Nikaido.3457:

I’m sure “burning guardians” were happy to get that trait, all three of them.

lol

Carry on.

Fact: Server Population does not Equate to Skill Lvl.
Fact: Just because you place 1st in Top Tier, does note equate to being more skilled, but rather just that you have more transfers.

Population /=/ Skill /=/ Rank Reward.

1st Place in Gold, Silver, Bronze should have equal distribution of goods.

It is a population imbalance. Take your pathetic ego’s out of it.

Grav.3568:

Chris.3290:

No one in Tier 2 is going to beat anyone in Tier 1 unless backdoor arrangements (not in the spirit of the game) are made,

Making backdoor arrangements is exactly what the spirit of the game should be about.

True, but it shouldn’t be a pre-req.

Leagues should be based solely on BG/EBG coverage.

When coverage doesn’t overlap, look at the data that fills the slot, add to alliance for league.

Don’t limit #Leagues based on equal pairing (tourny style), but based on data.

Rewards equal through-out league lvls’.

Gold -> New Skins (all) +current reward system
Silver -> New Wpn Skins + current reward system
Bronze -> current reward system

Rather – they’ve realized just how broken their classes are in light of everything, are now focusing solely on PvE, where nothing really matters.

Obtena.7952:

Beta is a testing phase … obviously you haven’t learned that the fact they changed it to lower HP after testing means that Guardians with high HP had an unintended impact to the game.

Rather, lowering the HP after testing has had an unintended impact to the game as progression has allowed for most every most other Zerker class to, in fact, put a guardian down within 2 hits.

Get your sensationalism BS out of here.

HP is a problem for Zerker guardians in anything other than 3v3’s. Anyone who says otherwise really doesn’t understand WvW mechanics.

… sounds pretty stupid, doesn’kitten

Oozo.7856:

I actually like GW2’s restriction against mods and macros.

Ditto – it required you to use.. you know.. gameplay skills…

Terravos.4059:

Amins.3710:

Terravos.4059:

Amins.3710:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Poxheart.2845:

I haven’t logged into GW2 since I started playing ESO. Aside from having three opposing sides there really is no comparison between the two games. ESO’s PvP is everything that GW2’s isn’t.

Too bad the actual combat in that game isn’t that good. It’s not worth a subscription.

ESO’s in combat Movement, Panning and skill use is HORRIBLE: It’s amost impossible to attack while panning around you to see where you’re being hit from.

However, the pvp system is soo much better than GW2’s PvD system.

That’s because you’re using what basically amounts to Elder Scrolls Movement system as an MMO.

Let me guess, You’re still using Mouse 1 and 2 for Swinging your Weapon and Blocking right?

I use an N52TE pad.. and a Naga, There is no way I could play like that, So what i did was changed my Mouse 1 and 2 to Forward and Backwards like I have it in GW2.

and I simply made My normal 1 and 2 Keys that I use for my 1 and 2 abilities in GW2 my Weapon Attack, and my Blocking Key, This allowed me to basically play the game in Mouse look like I normally do in MMO’s

Couldn’t have made a larger assumption if you tried.

I’m a newb gamer – excuse me – I know not what a keybind is… /golfclap

They’ll probably fix it, but it’s not important to them right now… however, until they do, you’re limited on panning behind you while running / strafing in combat.

Know what’s an even bigger assumption, assuming I was in fact calling you a newb gamer (I wasn’t)

Might not have been your intention, but you inadvertently did.

Apparently GW2 WvW’ers weren’t buying enough Finishers to make it worth Anet’s time to invest in Balance / Updates in a more reasonable fashion of time… /cough – more than once every 6 months.

Stagnant game play (development) in WvW and a lack of clear direction w/ an end goal is what kills it. It could take the form of: Loot, Noticeable Buffs so you can PvE content faster, progression to WvW specific Abilities, Zone Unlocks, etc…. yet, GW2 doesn’t have any of these.

Also, take into account their reward system for defending is negligible and does nothing more than to promote the PvD Karma Trains and server blobs… there’s alot to be adressed and there is NO timeline put forth to the public, to even consider sitting tight and waiting it out.

GW2 had it’s year to improve WvW and while they did address alot of the issues, the general consensus is that those issues never should have made it to Live to begin with…

The assumption on Anet’s part that ‘since we’re F2P, they will come back for expansions, updates and new content’ and however this might be true for PvE’rs, more often than not, once a PvP’er or WvW’er disassociates themselves w/ a particular game, they’re already invested in another one and the likelihood of coming back for WvW is next to ziltch.

GW2 is primarily a PvE game. They’ve made that loud and clear through their actions.

Terravos.4059:

Amins.3710:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Poxheart.2845:

I haven’t logged into GW2 since I started playing ESO. Aside from having three opposing sides there really is no comparison between the two games. ESO’s PvP is everything that GW2’s isn’t.

Too bad the actual combat in that game isn’t that good. It’s not worth a subscription.

ESO’s in combat Movement, Panning and skill use is HORRIBLE: It’s amost impossible to attack while panning around you to see where you’re being hit from.

However, the pvp system is soo much better than GW2’s PvD system.

That’s because you’re using what basically amounts to Elder Scrolls Movement system as an MMO.

Let me guess, You’re still using Mouse 1 and 2 for Swinging your Weapon and Blocking right?

I use an N52TE pad.. and a Naga, There is no way I could play like that, So what i did was changed my Mouse 1 and 2 to Forward and Backwards like I have it in GW2.

and I simply made My normal 1 and 2 Keys that I use for my 1 and 2 abilities in GW2 my Weapon Attack, and my Blocking Key, This allowed me to basically play the game in Mouse look like I normally do in MMO’s

Couldn’t have made a larger assumption if you tried.

I’m a newb gamer – excuse me – I know not what a keybind is… /golfclap

They’ll probably fix it, but it’s not important to them right now… however, until they do, you’re limited on panning behind you while running / strafing in combat.

RyuDragnier.9476:

Poxheart.2845:

I haven’t logged into GW2 since I started playing ESO. Aside from having three opposing sides there really is no comparison between the two games. ESO’s PvP is everything that GW2’s isn’t.

Too bad the actual combat in that game isn’t that good. It’s not worth a subscription.

ESO’s in combat Movement, Panning and skill use is HORRIBLE: It’s amost impossible to attack while panning around you to see where you’re being hit from.

However, the pvp system is soo much better than GW2’s PvD system.

Kukchi.6173:

1. PU condi Mesmer
2. condi engineer
3. condiThief
4. condi Mesmer
5. condi bunker Ranger
6. condi terror Necro
7. d/p Thief
8. s/f “fresh air” Ele
9. MM Necro
10. medit Guard
11. warrier

fixed.

1) Condi Guardian > All

Stability is not necessary for small roaming and getting stomps.

As Buran stated, and to add a few others:

- Aegis Stomp
- Blind Stomp
- Banish + JI Stomp
- Focus Stomp (block)

…. there’s 4, just off the top of my head.

Mediation w/ Rune Speed + Sword/Focus + GS – > Ton’s of mobility.

You will become a master ambient finder. And if you don’t, you’ll continue to die.

Lucentfir is correct in one aspect though: Fighting 1v2’s against equally skilled players is not going to result in positive outcomes, more often than not.

Its’ not full zerk, but it’s close. When i’m in the bigger engagements, i just swap in Celestial Trinkets + WvW buff’s and it’s a nice place to be able to absorb some decent burst.

Here’s a new vid – full zerk – GS+S/F. Nothing special in terms of fighting people, just threw it together for people to enjoy….

Not a whole lot of people making vid’s atm… gw2 is getting a bit stale and haven’t log’d on too much to get any “epic” footage.

What it should have been….

Litany of Wraith (.5)/(30s)
Mediation
Passive: 10% of damage done heals you.
Active: For a brief time (8s), heal yourself and allies around you (250) based on 25% of the damage dealt to enemies.

LeGarsToutJaune.9214:

YOP!

That’s the Zealot build I wanted to share with you!
BuildEditor WebLink -> http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNArdRnQElGadIuhgJiiIXQtAsHcE+b86BEjYDB-j0BB4qERjEFLakIAIbtIasFiFRjVflIq2ngIqGA-w .

I’m just wondering what runes I need to use…
I thought about Altruism and Golem

Which one seems to be better?

Fixed

Baels.3469:

It’s because WvW is as dynamic and changing as the brick wall behind my monitor.

Only to you PPT blob’ers in T1.

notabot.3497:

Why do you guys need to heal so much?

You’re confusing a support build vs a dps build. Every aspect of the Guardian outside of a pure dps build is very well balanced. The other, not so much.

Guardian DPS builds have very little sustain. It’s ~THE~ single biggest issue w/ guardians: Lack of stats to support DPS and the amount Guards have to sacrafice to even come close to other classes in the DPS/Burst department for WvW.

Exciting….

Some life finally breathed into our class again.

Obtena.7952:

jihm.2315:

is there any reason why i have to sit on around 11k hp on a dps guardian

while warriors can effortlessly sit at 20 k and have better mobility ,speed and healing signet which is the most hax skill in the game?

Probably because Guardian balance isn’t determined by what non-Guardian classes do?

Don’t mind Obtena, jihm – she’s on Team Anet.

Current Meta = C R A P

Re-roll.

Just run Sword + Dagger and you can evade most of the damage while immobilized… and use healing spring.

You can also survive a bit w/ s/h and blast finish through the water field and leap w/ sword to make up the difference of the evade from dagger: WvW Example

Oh… and hope the RNG Condi removal isn’t on cooldown…. put on Purity so you have 4 every 10s. =’[

Our only active removal comes from Spring, Signet, and spirit . – unless you’re Human.

Here are a couple builds that I use in WvW. Feel free to check out the video’s and the builds in the description (#2 & #3 have the builds in them).

My favorite is my shortbow / sword+horn.

Suggestions for roaming and small group.

You can take a more glassier build into ZvZ, but you really need to go AH + Symbols/Consecrations. Reason being is all the healing from symbols / buff’s… and run a Mace/Focus + Hammer type build (you can keep your trait distribution, just change Med’s Heal to AH).

Mace+Focus / Greatsword (or Hammer).

I would put 10 points into Honor & 5 in Virtues. Then, run at least Retreat for getting around the map a bit faster as that’s what’s going to slow you down the most… Mobility.

After that, stay in the top 3 Trait lines and spec all damage gear: Powr/prec/Crit.

**this is for leveling. Nothing more.

~OR~ if this is just an “Alt” and you don’t care about PvE / Storyline… grind out glory for the next couple weeks and get your Tome of Knowledges.

New Vid

Just some fun fights.

My Take on Rangers – Yes, I have one.

GS needs love
1) Maul to be turned into a Blast Finisher.
2) The Damage Co-coefficients on #1 to be increased.

Fortifying Bond
1) “Any Boon or Attribute from skill use is shared between both pet and player”.

IE: Bear invulnerability would apply to player as well – opening up more than 30pt in Signets for a invulnerability when it comes to Melee.

Beastmasters Might
Grants you and your allies….

Pets
Make them more Utility Based and less part of the overall Damage. Maybe something to the extent of giving them a “Pack Mentality Aura” (200 ish) that increase survivability to those around it.

Pet’s need to do less damage but be able to stay in the fight longer. The Current issue is that they do great damge, so if you give them more survivability, they’ll be OP. Take the Damage out of the equation and turn them into Utility.

Outside of that, response rate on Ranger Weapons seem much much slower than other classes between swap’n out weapons and first ability use.

EDIT: Please take a look at the White Lion from WAR.

zMajc.4659:

It never stops amazing me how some people think they can force their narrow view of how game play should function on everyone.

Stacking in a corner has been a valid combat strategy in MMO’s since the dawn of time. Smart use of your surroundings in combat has allways been a huge part of combat.

It’s also clear you have no idea about support functions in GW2.

Clearly your concept of “the dawn of time” is completely different than any veteran mmo player, because I remember a time where I BEGGED you to stand clumbed together cuz my PBAoE was going to tear you and your little toto too, a new kitten in about 4s… tops.

What are you guys talking about?!

Guardians and Mesmer’s have incredible access to 25% Passive Run speed….

We just have to pay 60 gold to get it.. /cough Travellers.

What a joke.

spoj.9672:

Amins.3710:

kill the stationary pve mob….

Elitist.

He asked what game the guy was playing… was a fair answer. =]

kill the stationary pve mob….

Go buy exotic zerker Karma gear or Badge WvW gear, then follow the PvE threads for specs.

Thedenofsin.7340:

I have full confidence that, if the ArenaNet developers read this, they will realize the egregious error they have made and increase thief base health by 30%, and nerf elementalist base health by 20%.

Guardian would have to be lowered too.

Those GC Guardians are just ~way~ to hard to take down w/ their 11k hp & 2400 armor.

Here are a list of healing builds I use.

For small group stuff, try the “I Heal” one or “Random Dodges”.

Random dodges is similar to Healway ofcourse… pretty obvious.

1) Go bunker and run w/ a super glassy thief.
2) Healway + DD Ele
3) Meditations DPS + Warrior
4) Support + Engi
5) Signet or Condi Guardian w/ a Mesmer and just run around in circles jumping and laughing while the mesmer kills everything.

Go big or go home!

Here

Dynnen.6405:

JonPeters.5630:

Hello Guardians,

So I wanted to talk about the bigger discussion topics for the Dec changes for you as well.

I think that is everything for guardian and hopefully you enjoyed a tease.

Thanks,

Jon

I read this every once and and it still cracks me up XD

Fixed

Mindtrick.5190:

Yo, I had to post this. Also if you dont like EOTM I feel bad for you son……

http://www.twitch.tv/mindtrick714/c/3671739

#WestCoast

lawl @ ur button mashing.