Guild Wars 2

I feel like I started to get into the groove of it pretty quickly, even against the new mobs, but the DPS definitely didn’t compare with my regular build. But that’s the trade-off of ranged weapons.

I think the virtues still need a bit of work, as others are saying. They felt rather clunky, but it could just be that I need more time to adjust to the role.

Otaur.9268:

Kadsik.9281:

Don’t get me wrong, i think this shiro legend is awesome probably my favortie so far, but does this mean they will start releasing elite specs again, or will we have another long fuggin break.

Its been a month since the last elite spec, but it feels like it was this long….

Actually it has been 2 1/2 months.

Yeah I was about to say, no way it’s only been a month, lol.

Idk if anyone has said it already… (I hardly ever come here anymore because I’m not in love with being brutally censored), but what if the Revenant’s elite legend is Glint? That would be pretty dope just sayiiin

When longbow was first datamined as Guardian’s new weapon, I was pretty disappointed. But over time I came to see that Guardian didn’t need more melee. It has excessive melee already! And it lacks in range and condition damage. This is exactly what Guardian needs to have a competitive range game.

They saw where the class was weak, and they addressed it. I couldn’t be more excited to see what happens with it, and I will definitely be trying it out! Already planning on rolling a Revenant anyway, though; why not both?

To suggest centaurs evolved from horses is absurd. It’s rather difficult to imagine they evolved at all, as there is no evolutionary precedent for such an arbitrary combination of features from two very disparate species. However, there is evidence of different species of centaur, as the Elonian centaur has distinctly different features than the Tyrian mainland variant, suggesting that they did evolve naturally over a long period. I think the closest-to-logical answer to their origin is that centaurs share a distant mutual ancestor with horses.

As for why there are no observable horses in Tyria, I believe this is obvious: the horses must have fallen under the control of some equine elder dragon, and are, as we speak, mustering their forces for an intricately-planned assault on civilization! Ready yourselves, Tyrians, for the biggest threat to this world comes not in the form of twisting vines, but with the thundering sound of a million hooves cascading over the hills and mountains in sweeping unison, ravaging the countryside in a blazing fury, and carrying the world to a swift, majestic doom!

Greyhound.2058:

Blimey how many rares are you all salvaging for that to be a problem?? One of you please tell the Loot Fairy I want to be her BFF too lol

Why don’t you just do Tequatl once a day? I swear I get at least 5 rares every time, occasionally up to 10, and it’s rather annoying re-upping the salvage kit after every one…

Tryhard Pants.9745:

fracture.9754:

Of course not, lol. Beta testers were paid before. Nowadays people pay, or grind, for the chance to be a beta tester.

Get a staff of beta testers and pay them, I’m not doing it for free for you.

They do internal beta tests. The idea behind all this is to encourage people to play in the new zones with a slight chance to get a key. Nobody is forcing anyone to “grind” for one. If people force themselves to play just for the sake of getting access then that’s their fault, not the developers.

But is it entirely their fault? After all, the developers (and most game developers for the last decade) are the ones who have turned public betas into PR stunts, making players think they’re just happy fun-times with exclusive early-access content, rather than actual tests. People can only make decisions based on what they perceive, and the gaming industry has twisted the general perception of public beta testing into something far different than what it actually is.

Gibson.4036:

Andred.1087:

Primeval Legplates?

Still looks like it has a miniskirt. Or is that attached to the chest piece?

Thanks for the suggestion.

I mean, it’s not a part of the chest piece, but I wouldn’t really call it a skirt…

Primeval Legplates?

Yes pls. I don’t know that I would want to permanently stop the warnings, but something would be nice. Does alt+click do anything on salvage kits? It would be nice if you could maybe alt+click a kit to suppress warning dialogs until you stop salvaging.

kitten’s sake if it’s not fun anymore, MOVE ON with your life. Think about what you could be doing right now instead of forcing yourself to play a game you don’t enjoy…

Yeah, true. It just seems that public betas are not really for the purpose of finding bugs, other than those that can only be discovered by the introduction of more players. If you want to find bugs, you pay people to do it, because it takes many hours of careful experimentation to exhaustively test a system, which can’t exactly be substituted with many players experiencing the same content for a short time.

I doubt there will be many bugs to find. I feel like the only things they won’t have already found with in-house testing will be related to the number of players. As many others have said, public betas are mostly just marketing stunts now.

Gimli.9461:

And I don’t even care about the Beta Portal.

Lol, if you say so.

Seriously who kittening cares? It’s a god kitten video game, if you don’t like it, play a different one. Or, here’s a novel idea: pursue your dreams and escape the mundane life of normalcy that society desperately wants you to succumb to!

People make way too big of a deal of getting into betas.

I will say it again. Discussion about RNG is pointless. You cannot determine how the system works from observation, so any assertion of a perceived problem with the loot system is purely speculative. Furthermore, there is no solution to this that will satisfy everybody. Now, everybody should be satisfied already, if it truly is a fair system, but because there will always be those who think they deserve better, there is nothing to be done.

In the absence of developer involvement, this thread and all other threads discussing the loot system are of no value, and serve only as a place for those with rudimentary understanding of math to (apparently) flaunt their knowledge.

Why do we even give a kitten about RNG? You can’t change it! Talking about it is moot. If the devs see a problem, they will address it. If they have intentionally made it unfair, we can do nothing about it. The true reality of the RNG cannot be ascertained from observation of outcomes, and any effort to do so is futile. Just play the kitten game and take what it gives you.

As you can see, if you look for older players, you can find them, but that doesn’t change the fact that a (probably huge) majority of the players are still in high school. There’s a reason the game is rated T.

As such, you can expect map chat to be filled to the bursting with referential humor and other pitiful attempts to get laughs (read: validation) from strangers. Sigh…

It’s still doing something for free that is an actual job that some people get paid to do.

If you enjoy beta testing, then great. But don’t act like it’s anything more than that. You’re not winning the lottery, it’s literally just an opportunity to do free labor for ANet that you might enjoy.

That’s why it’s so kitten frustrating seeing all this whining about not getting a portal… like, think for a second about why you’re so excited about beta testing. Why is that exciting at all? It’s not! But game developers have spent years perfecting their presentation of beta testing to make fans inexplicably infatuated with it, so they can get free testing from them. What’s the first thing you think about when ANet says “HoT Beta?” If what you’re envisioning is not a few hours of testing specific things / doing nothing beneficial to you while getting a slight sneak-peek of the expansion, you’ve been duped. It’s not going to blow your mind, nor will it be anywhere near ‘awesome.’. It’s a job, that someone could have been paid to do, and you’re doing it for free, because you think it’s going to be fun, probably more than it actually is.

Now, would I throw away a beta portal? No way! I do want to see what’s going on, and a few hours is a pretty small commitment. But kitten ed if I’m gonna throw a fit if I don’t have that opportunity.

So the human to which you’ve inexorably tethered your existence and around which you’ve redefined all meaning of self can’t participate in every single thing you do… wow, what a tragedy.

Tbh I’m getting pretty sick of this beta portal craze… but I guess they can’t have any kind of beta selection without massive QQ from people who can’t participate, as if it’s going to be anything more than a few hours’ worth of unpaid labor.

Murderin.8269:

That leads to wiki pages that lead to more wiki pages of items that I have to craft to craft the item I have to craft to craft the ascended item.

Yes, that is in fact how crafting works.

ProtoGunner.4953:

It’s rather unrealistic since 99.9% of our real lives we are just normal people.

Incorrect. Normality is simply a choice that normal people are not aware they ever made.

On topic: If you plan to continue playing the game, you really should buy the expansion. What else are you going to do?

heartless.6803:

Andred.1087:

Ascended is really not that bad… I think the cost is appropriate for BiS gear. You can easily get enough money to do it by just playing the game for a while and accruing gold/mats. That’s what you’re supposed to do; it is a casual game, after all.

Oh I have enough gold to buy all the mats for all 3 tiers, it’s just an issue I really don’t see the reason as to why exactly. Sure it’s better, but not by much. As far as I can tell ascended is really only used for fractals because of an asinine agony damage system.

Yeah I mean, that’s fair. I did Fractals a lot, so I needed more ascended gear. But since I can foresee-ably afford to equip all my characters (that I use, anyway) with ascended, I might as well. Except my Ele, since I have yet to do any work in Tailor.

Ascended is really not that bad… I think the cost is appropriate for BiS gear. You can easily get enough money to do it by just playing the game for a while and accruing gold/mats. That’s what you’re supposed to do; it is a casual game, after all. I crafted my first set of ascended armor over several months.. but now I’ve built up enough resources to go craft a whole set (or two) right now at relatively minimal gold cost.

Mightybird.6034:

Why am I still paying/grinding every time I want some decent/new/change.

Because you seem to think “doing work” and “grinding” are equivalent? Or are unaware that a game that is intended to be played every day for months on end must necessitate repetitive content?

While 1/3 is statistically significant, I think the difference will not be noticeable for the vast majority of builds. And where it is, it will probably be an improvement, as assigning traits for the purpose of boosting different stats than your gear (i.e. spreading your stats thinner) almost always makes you less effective. I understand the compulsion to believe that re-assigning traits for different stats is a way to change your build for specific situations, but I think the effectiveness of this is exaggerated.

Why is everybody under the impression that stats gained from traits are integral to builds? Gear already far outweighs traits in stat contribution, so I fail to see how this change will require anybody to get new armor.

I love my G600. Switched from not one but two iterations of Naga that wore out, and I haven’t looked back.

There is no tanking or support in GW2. Period. No build on any class can stand in the line of fire for an extended time and not die. No build on any class can bring more value to the group by focusing on support skills instead of attacking and using support reactively. This is a game where the fighting makes some actual sense, in that not getting hit is always better than getting hit, and not fighting is always worse than fighting.

Rym.1469:

Expected Tenacious D.

Same, lol.

Anyway, take a look at any MMO to come out since GW2. ESO, Wildstar, SWTOR, you name it. They’ve all fallen flat on their faces, and the ones that came out with sub fees have all gone F2P within a year of release. Meanwhile GW2 is seeing more and more influx of players thanks to the expansion announcement and sales, and continues to deliver quality content and features based on feedback from the players.

To compare GW2 to a phoenix is ridiculous, as that would suggest the game is dead and rising again. I’ve been playing consistently for about the last year, and I can say confidently it has never been doing poorly, and now it is only getting stronger.

Who kittening cares? Changes are coming. You can’t stop it. All you can do is adapt. So how about we stop talking about whether this is GOOD or BAD like we’re school children and start talking about how to make the best of it?

Yumiko Ishida.3769:

It won’t affect me at all, as I already have 4-5 sets of armor in different stat types. for all of you that never use anything but zerker, and only one set of armor in that stat, however… Sucks for all of you!

Why? Gear is presently the most significant factor in determining your stats by a wide margin. This change will not make zerker any less viable for any content.

My best advice is:

1. Have full exotic gear
2. Read about dungeon/fractal builds for your class and how it should be played
and most importantly:
3. Do what your party is doing! Stay near them at all times, join up when they stack, and pay attention to any instructions given. They may not always be right, but at least your group won’t be mad at you.

Good luck!

You got something essentially for free, and you think it’s an insult… in a video game, no less! So, what exactly is it you think you deserve in your occasional reward you get just for playing the game?

Broken Arietta.4631:

So fed up of this.

Then… stop?

I think Shelter could be classified as a meditation and Litany of Wrath should just be scrapped, lol… Shelter as a medi might be a little OP, but it could be rebalanced a little, and I don’t think it fits any of the other categories. Certainly wouldn’t make sense as a consecration, since they’re going to all be ground-targeted.

Taxidriver.2043:

agree it makes no sense to come out with new class and allow ppl to instant level to 80

I argue it makes no sense to not allow it, since they’ve already given us the means to do it. What harm is there in letting people do this? None more than letting any other class level 0 to max with tomes.

Space.8053:

Are you ever going to be happy with the core mechanics of your game or are you going to keep ripping them up every couple of months or so? Why should I invest time in this game to re spec my characters when these changes are so frequent?

The last change to traits was a disaster, why should we get excited about this change?

You can leave whenever you want.

Naevius.3185:

Actually, it is a bit disturbing that there are 11 lines there, even if one is the elite spec. Consider that it is one thing to pick 3 out of 5 (or 6) trait lines, but 3 out of 11 is another matter. And ‘Signets’ as a line? Does that mean no signets at all in other lines?

That is not what you’re thinking about. That screen is where you spend hero points to unlock skills/traits.

Well, active defenses are really the reason DPS is so viable, but this system should absolutely encourage diversity. The point of removing and reshuffling the traits is to make each one an important decision, rather than having loads of traits that are almost never used but requiring you to invest in that line just for the stat bonuses, and picking another trait that’s kind of useful but not your ideal choice.

I was specifically looking for some oversight like this, and I’m pretty disappointed that I missed it, lol.

Not a bad guess, I certainly have no idea what it could mean other than that, and all the other specialization lines are there.

If you’re annoyed by lacking this information, I strongly suggest you get a hobby. One that doesn’t involve obsessing over a video game. There is zero cause for a logical human being to be bothered by this. The only reason this upsets you is that you believe you deserve to know it now, a sentiment for which there is no justification.

It’s ludicrous to imagine that ANet is not already fully aware of every issue the players can imagine from what they’ve told us. They’re the ones who kittening designed the whole system!!

Who do you (everyone trying to give feedback right now) think you are that you can identify problems they haven’t been considering since before they even started implementing it?

Olvendred.3027:

While change is, of course, inherently evil…

I really hope you don’t actually believe that.

sorudo.9054:

yeah, compelling, we’re compelled to leave the game to die.
they said they have a solution for the trait problem, all they did was screwing us over all over again.
they said they are gonna set things right, all they did was making sure that we are now forced to do all the things we deliberately avoided.

i don’t have a 100% map completion ankitten ot planning in doing it any time soon, i really don’t like dungeons but AFAIK it’s something forced.
so in short, you’re forced to do stuff you don’t like, changing the game in to labor.

You’re free to leave the game.. But you’re delusional if you think it’s going to die. Also, you can go ahead and get over yourself whenever you see fit. The game doesn’t revolve around you and what you want.

ANet knows what they’re doing. If you don’t believe that, you don’t have to use their product. Otherwise you need to just realize that kitten changes, and if you can’t deal with it, you’re better off leaving. Adapt or die, that’s the way of life.

Am I missing something? Armor is already the most significant determining factor in your stats by a long shot. That isn’t changing. Why does this new system force you to carry multiple armor sets any more than the current system? Other than: “everybody has been saying that so it must be true”

You’re only getting screwed if you don’t adapt. Welcome to life.

Oh my god will you PLEASE just wait until we know everything? Do you really think they don’t know what the kitten they’re doing? Alpha/beta tests happen for a bloody reason!

Could you guys please for once stop pretending you know more about this than the kittening devs do… They’re doing an AMA tomorrow to clarify questions, for kitten’s sake!

Regardless, the only way this can affect you adversely is if you refuse to adapt to the new system, as is the way of all nature. Get used to it.

Traits are a minor stat modifier compared to gear stats. I like the change, and people have been asking for this for a while. Get good gear tbh

kittening seriously WHO CARES

Why are we even having a discussion about trust? Why do you need to trust a company developing a game?? Do you ask the same questions about all your entertainment? Do you feel like you need to trust television studios? Do you have an issue with how much information they release about their products, or the amount of communication they have with their fans? NO! You don’t even THINK about that when you’re watching TV, so please can anybody tell me, how is this different?!

Video games are entertainment media. You invest exactly as much as you want into them, until they no longer satisfy you, then you move on to something else. What commitment do you have to this game that you need to feel trust for the developers? You’re free to use your leisure time anywhere you want and re-appropriate it at will. There is no logic in this.