WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Typical Anet, rather than come ingame and deal with the reports, they come up with some really bad ideas, highlighting their lack of any knowledge of how wvw is run.
On EU, the comm drops the siege generally. But that’s not the real problem. The real problem is the people who get reported day in day out for months, who build siege that is obviously useless.
Easy solution is to actually have a GM to deal with these and who can make a value judgement. You know, someone who actually answers all the reports of siege trolls, hackers, etc that currently get ignored.
The other solutions are to have the siege carry the name of the person who drops it, and have golems so that the owner can kick out the troll. or better yet, if someone tries to get in a golem the owner gets a message saying ‘xyz is attempting to board your golem, allow y/n’
These are simple, workable solutions. Some form of ‘exhaustion’ just shows how badly informed you are to even think of it.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
I collected another infraction point for my last response- criticism will not be tolerated.
I think they need to look at the overall design of wvw first and look at ways of redesigning it so that it favours something other than mindless GWEN trains- for instance, design a map with a lot more water, or snow that’s an environmental effect, and swap out maps every week to make it more interesting. And have just one large map with at least 3 sides (5 would be awesome but probably beyond their programmers), the map changes from week to week (so have 5 or so different maps), and have areas that punish groups that ball up (say, for instance, mud from endless footfalls causing slow, disease, bleeding, all not removable) and promote some ranged spread out play.
Or even have maps that need co ordination of more than one group to achieve the goal, so two or three groups must take different areas to achieve their goal, whilst the other two servers may have different objectives.
Loot should be given out server wide every minute for those on the wvw maps who are active (might be hard to program that to stop exploiters) but there needs to be a way to reward the support players and make it so spamming 1 on a guard isn’t the most rewarding in terms of loot whilst the ele healing in the back picks up 1/10th of the loot the guard gets.
Points need to adjust for population, and the one mega map needs to have a higher cap of around 150 per server with aoe affects whenever more than 50 are in the same spot to discourage a mega zerg (and a system that forces them to do more than one thing at a time, which means a bigger map, better objectives, etc).
Lower population on a map compared to your rivals gives you better scores. defending needs to give better rewards or map wide rewards need to be granted.
If a decent anti exploit system can be made, then map wide rewards based on points scored could be brought in, so you gain a ‘wvw box’ for x points scored by the map which can contain anything from a spike to a blue, green, rare, exotic, etc .
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
1. redesign the maps and actually add something.
Then come back and discuss how to ‘fix’ the scoring, which is papering over the cracks.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
The way to save wvw is to make some changes to the match ups and the maps- there is no need to have three identical BL and a redesigned and improved and expanded series of EB (maps vary each week, some include much more water).
There are a huge number of map types and restrictions they could add in to make wvw much better than it is, but they just don’t see it as core to the game hence the lack of development over two years. Which is sad because it could have been great.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
So, after ignoring queues, deserted servers and solo anything, get ready for the ‘devs had a blast in wvw’ promo video where it’s all excitement and action to try and entice new players into the game.
The only downside- nothing has changed in the core maps in two years and with nothing seemingly planned for the next year, there is nothing to keep existing players playing apart from subbornness or a target of 10,000 ranks (which is fastest to get by following a mindless upscaled karma train in EOTM, making your wvw efforts look feeble).
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
There are no such things as hacks in GW2. There are no such things as hacks in GW2. There are no such things as hacks in GW2.
Repeat three times and tap heels together!
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Or, heaven forbid, make them tradeable so those that don’t go near fractals have a chance of getting more than one a month from laurels if they log in every day like slaves and do a daily.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Or they could have done the simple way: the email telling you you have got a reward..contains the reward! then you can wonder over to the NPC at your leisure to browse what you can get. Can’t delete the mail before accepting the reward.
That would seem the simple way to do it. Instead they go and add bells and whistles to it, screwing it up in the process…
Season 1 says hi.
Ahh, I knew I had seen it somewhere…
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Or they could have done the simple way: the email telling you you have got a reward..contains the reward! then you can wonder over to the NPC at your leisure to browse what you can get. Can’t delete the mail before accepting the reward.
That would seem the simple way to do it. Instead they go and add bells and whistles to it, screwing it up in the process…
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
To summarise: roll guardian or warrior, follow tag and press 1. Or go all out and roll necro or ele and throw those fields around. Tag anything that moves to maximise loot.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
I missed mine as I couldn’t be bothered to log in for a week. It got too boring logging in, grind the daily, same old maps.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
1. Use staff guardian or a warrior.
2. Spam 1
3. Collect 10 times as much loot as most other classes.
4. trade in loot, buy precursor
Other classes, tough luck.
The whole precursor thing is just bad game design. There should be a clear path to achieving your legendary weapon that does NOT involve rng or farming for 5000 hours to raise the gold to buy one (if grinding is your thing- try raising money in real wvw as a non- guard or warr…).
I fell out of love with the game when nothing new was done to wvw for two years, and the only reason to log in became doing the dailies to get laurels for ascended piece once a month or so.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Does the Op want us all to play super tanky builds? Let’s all play guardian and spam 1!
The major problem this game has is a lack of trinity, which means it struggles to make things hard enough without wiping out 95% of the other classes.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Celestial staff ele is a blast, and can also normally escape ganking thiefs etc on your way around the map.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Some devs should ahve used upscaleds and not joined guilds, to get a more rounded picture of what casual wvw is like.
Instead they all joined active guilds and will come away with a completely skewed view of what wvw is really like week in week out.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Wait..people actually tab targets? I thought you just spam pressed 1 in front of you…
Get outside of your blob and you will get what Otaur means.
Tab targetting should be prior to RED enemies (guards/scouts etc included) and not the walls or neutral fire flies hanging around camps.
I main a support ele, sometimes a ranger, occasionally guardian. Have played all classes.
Maybe next time I need to use /sarcasm so you people get it…
The targetting system is awful. It frequently tabs to an enemy outside my range when there are 30 people closer in front of me..
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Wait..people actually tab targets? I thought you just spam pressed 1 in front of you…
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
The OP is complaining because he can’t tag the ele with his staff Guardian from inside the tower…..
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
I blame the pve’rs and those that play guardian. Spam all skills as soon as cooldown in the first case and so bowled over by not just spamming 1 in the second case that they just can’t help themselves. /sarcasm
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
I find the downed state and rallying very useful, as well as being a good mechanic.
Learn to stomp the downed, or have people focus them, so they don’t rally. Stop just spamming staff 1 on your guardian and actually do something about it rather than trying to tag everything in sight. Learn to get people up before they die, so they don’t res half the enemy downed.
If someone keeps dieing and being a rallybot, stop ressing them and politely ask them to do something else (if they are upscaled, explain that EoTM is far better for exp, wexp, loot, etc). If they have a bad build, give them some pointers.
It’s really annoying to see several of their players downed, and they all just stand back up because no one could be bothered to stomp because our guys are too busy to res one person as it might prevent them tagging.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
This is a bit like asking ‘why are guardians allowed to tag everything with one hit of a staff in an arc in front of them and not die from retal’.
Playing a staff ele in wvw isn’t easy, cut them some slack.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
It will bring the usual huge queues and zerk warriors and guardians.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Click on the wvw tag, join queue. Log off 3 hours later having not got in.
Welcome to pve’rs trying to join wvw!
Or click on the EoTM and follow the karma training upscaled.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Whatever happened to doing some research if you didn’t get something straight away? Or click the help button? Or google ‘downed state skills GW2’ if you want to know?
Seriously no idea who these testers are- if they are the future, I pity the rest of you having to live with them.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
They’ve decided playing anything except warrior, guardian or possibly necro is a waste of time and have made it impossible for any other classes to be able to use their skills without almost killing themselves in one cast.
Don’t worry, the melee majority will now come and defend it.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Before you all go on your jollies, get someone to take a look at this stupid light aura retal- or better yet, try playing FT engi, LB ranger or any type of ele or aoe user. It’s basically designed to make the only viable classes guard and warrior, with maybe necros. Eles don’t dare throw MS.
But I’m sure is OK and working as intended.
Maybe after the devs play wvw they will rework a lot of the skills when they see the effects of a lot of them in group play.
Can we get a list of what classes the devs play during this ‘test’- there should be an equal distribution so they can experience all the fun to be had from certain skills or being unable to cast anything in larger fights while warriors and guardian merrily press 1 and tag everything in sight.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
I feel this will end up just like the ‘amazing wvw video compliation’ with nothing but gushing positives.
They need to assign devs to each tier, and experience it from within an organised guild, then solo, then on ts, then not, and experience both prime time and dead time. On different classes. It’s a long project, that should be done OUTSIDE of the tournament.
Sadly what will happen is the devs will join big guilds on popular servers during the tournament when the population is hugely swelled by achievement hunters and they will get completely the wrong idea of what wvw is really like during a normal week.
Hopefully they won’t jump the huge prime time queue’s so they can experience the waiting too.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
There are no glitches in wvw and anyone who says there might be glitches, zoom hacks, bugs, bots, people under the floors/walking through walls will have their posts removed and get infracted. So obviously what you just saw didn’t happen. /sarcasm
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
It’s quite simply explained: it got in the way of the karma train.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
This whole system seems designed for people who can’t cope with skills.
It’s becoming more and more like a korean grinder every day.
These changes make zero sense for the Western market.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
from patchnotes:
New Aura: Light Aura
Gain 2 seconds of retaliation when struck. (Cooldown: 1 second)
Apply 8 seconds of vulnerability when struck.
Light Field:
Leaping through a light field now grants 5 seconds of light aura.
So basically in your average wvw fight there will be permanent retaliation all over the place, rendering FT the fastest way to kill yourself. In fact, any toon that doesn’t have an auto heal ticking over and throws aoe around (yes, those nasty casters) may as well just not bother.
So glad I have a guard to play as staff ele doesn’t look like so much fun now…
But by far my favourite is the trap rune, 3 seconds stealth per trap triggered= perma stealthed ranger, should make it fun.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Try reading a few wvw guides, drop the pve build and armors and try and figure out what to do when and where to stand, etc and you might stop being a free bag for the people who know what they are doing.
When season starts, wvw will be full of people just like you, which means much more loot for the more experienced;-)
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Exotics drop from champ bags? That’s from the 3 or 4 an hour from proper wvw..I guess I need to wexp/karma train moooore in eotm
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
There’s a wvw team now? Wow!
I’d rather the ‘wvw dev team’ spent their team working on, you know, um what is it called. oh yeah…wvw.
You need at least 10 of you- one in each of the top kitten, t3 servers, one in each of the bottom of each tier, over both US and EU servers. Then you need others to solo, others to join organised raids, others on ts, others not, etc to get a feel of what wvw is really like for players.
Oh, and make sure you don’t jump q’s in prime time, and also wonder around in the dead of night to experience pvd.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
I’m afraid, that season 3 only gonna push more people away from wvw and from gw2.
Enough is enough, we have waited 2 years, for all this time they have done almost nothing, except some cosmetic changes, and one huge and very beautiful pve/karma train map.
For 2 years they didn’t listen us even once, i dont think they gonna start now.
Time to move on.Right right, of course. We should believe that all of the new features and content A-Net has delivered post-launch has been absolutely nothing unless you as a “people in masses aka us” got something that you wanted in Guild Wars 2.
I must have missed all the wvw related ‘new features and content’ that you speak of. the maps and mechanics are almost exactly the same as at launch, the fun bit of water was removed to make way for cap points that only belong in spvp and they brought in wexp (and finally made it account bound ages after it was blindingly obvious that it should have been account bound from the start). Masteries- yeah, nice cosmetic change. And a pve karma train map.
In two years nothing much has changed- the maps feel completely stale and there seems to be no changes anywhere in sight. It’s no wonder most hardcore wvw’rs have left the game and much of what are left are either casuals or hanging on in the hope it gets better.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Randomly assigning players to balance match up would be a good start.
Making the only drops come from players would make it an instant ghost town.
30 seconds delay, people would log off.
More loot for OP team…this means the dominant team would reap all the rewards, as the weaker team now has no incentive to recap anything (no rewards), so the large guild would wipe everything on the map, the weaker side would relog, and you’re left with a map that has one colour.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
What’s an ascended chest? never had one, rank 1300ish and counting…
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
My guard had 2 sets of armor about a year ago I think one was the draconic zerker gear and the other gear I can’t recall off hand but It was from melandru event karma npc? Full set.. Looked awesome don’t really recall the stats on it.
there is your problem …. zerker gear dont work in wvw^^
I’m sure a lot of eles, necros, guards and warriors would say otherwise.
Yes, and I love them all for the easy bags:-)
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
The day/night bit with night having very low visibility (somewhat like the dark room in OS) in WvW would make for interesting plays. There’d be torch piles by the keeps and towers, and camps and sentries would be carrying torches too. There could even be some raiding parties (with elites or something) that spawn from Keeps and targets nearby enemy camps.
Visibility is already shockingly bad in wvw- there should be a detection radius around every structure that shows enemies passing/attacking.
As for NPC’s wandering around the map, no thanks, we don’t want any more pve creeping in to wvw- but feel free to throw them in the karma train EoTM arena.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
No. Just actually try playing a ranged class before posting such an idea. It’s bad enough already, we don’t need yet more things blocking.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
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Yes, you’re right, that’s one thing I did not take into account, but that is mainly because I do not participate in server VOIP options because I have no need for them and I don’t like to hear voices of other players, often just yelling, cursing, and barking orders saying “DO THIS YOU NOOBS!” I coordinate via the in-game chat. As inefficient as you may find it, it is more than enough for me to enjoy playing.
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And this is why no one will listen to the rest of your ‘ideas’. Pretty much why the top servers are at the top is voice comms and the organisation it brings , and also why so many people keep playing. Just because you can co ordinate slowly through the ingame chat doesn’t mean everyone else wants to be kitten that way.
I don’t use the server TS myself due to my personal situation, but having run a guild and organised 60-80 man battles in another game I can tell you that TS makes a lot of difference both to the quality of the game and the fun you can have as well as your server’s performance. I play a support ele and have played enough of it to know roughly when I need to cast my water fields, blocks, etc and have played healers in other games so one hand is always on my team’s HP bars, but I know that it would be better to be in TS purely from a timing perspective.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
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WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
The main problem with the OP’s idea is the fact that our servers use TS to organise- how will you organise a mess of people speaking several languages into any sort of organised force?
It will just turn into mini-Eotm, but with less rewards.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
There is a pvp tourny in the works and there has just been a showcasing of the spvp mode..now figure out where they re allocate the wvw resources to….
Bingo!
Rather than updating your rig, buying a 1gb leased line and everything else, just accept that wvw is treated as last in the queue for resources.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Try maining something other than auto tagging guardian or warrior, and those complaining will quickly realise light armor classes get a lot less loot anyway, so there is no advantage gained, just less loss if we get more silk from our far fewer drops.
Uh, maybe you should try playing those other classes? Eles and necros get just as much loot, if not more because they don’t have to run around to spam a 600 range aoe.
I’ve played them all, several times. Necro is good for loot, especially if you use attacking skills, ele doesn’t tag so many if you are playing support and using your skills to keep people alive. Of course, if you play mindless fire spam then yes you get a good amount of loot, but nothing tags better than guardian staff 1 spam- one hit seems to tag the target, whereas for other classes you have to make much more hits/effort to get rewards.
Much depends on how you play and whether you care about keeping your side alive, or whether maximising your own loot is your main aim. Judging by EoTM lately, mindless spam while everyone dies around you seems to be the new meta there, whereas in wvw most of the time players seem to have a better appreciation of synergy.
Others have made the valid point that profession based drops is a bad idea as it forces them to choose between the class they want to play and the class they need to play to maximise their drop chance for the type of mats they want. Wondering around on most light classes in pve solo farming isn’t much fun which is why most of us have heavy classes for map completion, world events, etc as they can destroy targets so much faster whilst taking so much more damage and having a shiny healing signet too.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
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Or you could roll a new toon using the race and class you want and level it to 80 in a week or two…
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
The devs are aware of the problem. It’s just not high up on their list of things to do. WvW is already on the ‘deal with when nothing else needs doing’, then there is the huge list of things that need fixing, and finally at the bottom is ‘fix stupidly high achievement targets in wvw’.
It’s about as likely to get fixed as me winning the lottery. I still buy a ticket every week.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Actually the best bit of EoTM is watching 10-20 people ignore the fact that the enemy has shown up and is killing them while they continue to wail on the champ, and then moan about the commander when they are all dead without getting their precious champ bag.
But then most people just switch off and auto attack anyway, my favourite comment from an ele yesterday ‘why should I switch to water it does less damage’ after I explained that it might help people survive the battle…
And the rage quitters who quit when they get wiped, when the comm goes for a fight, or anything else that might interupt their champ farm.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.
Try maining something other than auto tagging guardian or warrior, and those complaining will quickly realise light armor classes get a lot less loot anyway, so there is no advantage gained, just less loss if we get more silk from our far fewer drops.
WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.