Guild Wars 2

Jonwar.9205:

Dogged march is… meh… most classes can reapply these conditions so often I’m not sure how much i will help. The regen seems to little to help all that much.

What is so hard to give us a 10second passive condition removal trait? Warriors regen isn’t all that great anyway.

As I said before this is the carrot on the stick method until they can truly add some diversity in this game other wise its still the same result for warriors before patch.

They really do hold back on a lot of ideas they trying to make for a profession to feel comfortable to play in both fields.

Tails: I don’t know Sonic, but I remember someone telling me Eggnet got rid some of the charr creation character choices when it went live. Having the option to choose saturated pink fur and other fur colors we can’t choose anymore. So probably the same thing happen to their tails option as well. Who knows? I’m just a talking two tailed fox.

Harbinger.8637:

I was hoping for Healing Signet buff…….

But looks solid overall.

You’re not the only one…meh.

Kaleban.9834:

I’ll never understand why game developers insist on nerfing something fun into oblivion, rather than slowly buff other options up. Wouldn’t it be awesome if the “OP” bunker D/D Ele was simply the yardstick by which other professions/builds were measured? Rather than nerf /D into suckitude, why not buff Staff, Scepter and Focus to the point where they compete? And do that for all professions?.

Now this is something I can agree to besides the complaints. I never understood that method why the developers just can’t buff other professions builds / traits to counter certain mechanics of certain OP professions builds. This adds more diverse and competition to the pvp field than just nerfing. I can understand nerf certain abilities to a certain degree such as frenzy because it was really OP, but nerfing abilities like RTL is bad because that is an escape / offensive skill that can be countered. That’s the only nerf I do dislike coming for elementalist. I’m still not shedding a tear because this was going to happen eventually, but it just sucks RTL was caught up in it as well.

It happens…

This however is a trend in most or probably all MMO’s out there when it comes to profession balances due to pvp.

Think of it this way, I know it sucks to be killed by it in pvp, but I sure do love it if I can get two down teammates back up in pvp or in pve to continue the fight then die.

As Luthan said now that you know of this warrior mechanic run away and heal up because the warrior is going to use vengeance to kill ya.

FenGuild.1097:

I think only part that made it confusing or disappointing is that you took the bait instead of shrugging it off.

( snort ) life is too simple, but w/e hehe

Caffynated.5713:

Brutalistik.6473:

rchu.8945:

Pizz.3698:

Engis will keep one of their tears for you Eles.

no tears from me, I am all smile

Neither tears from me either and I play an Elementalist

You do?

Brutalistik.6473:

Gmtsai.6349:

anyone still playing warrior??

Yes I only play warrior

Caffynated.5713 if you’re going to quote me then quote my whole reason please.

Brutalistik.6473:

Gmtsai.6349:

just curious lol only see Anastasis, Longbow Hero, and Kpop around now.

anyone still playing warrior??

Yes I only play warrior because I get bored with my other alts most of the time. I do not play the glass cannon type and I am also not a high tier Tpvp warrior either not that I do not see many warriors in general particpating playing Tpvp which is a rare sight.

That is my reason I do not play my elementalist because I get bored regardless of my weapon setup.

Right now I get the feeling they’re taking this as baby steps for each individual professions. As an example this patch for warriors are getting a little survivability and burst damage. Next patch they may take a look into warriors that are the bunker types such as myself regeneration warrior. This I hope and next patch will probably be for conditions setting warriors on the right path.

Of course the same thing will happen to other professions to add more flavor to the field of pvp world. It’s just going to be a slow process though for the moment.

rchu.8945:

Pizz.3698:

Engis will keep one of their tears for you Eles.

no tears from me, I am all smile

Neither tears from me either and I play an Elementalist

JonathanSharp.7094:

Ya, we’ll have to watch what the changes do to the game. I think that bunkers will still be viable, but I think you’ll see some new counters to them. It’ll be interesting to see what the meta does.

J

Think???? Well I hope bunkers can be viable than think :S. That doesn’t give me hope at all lol.

Thanks Jonathan
(cries in the corner mumbling versatility and diversity builds will happen one day along with the compassionate banner bug fix)

It needs to have an 60 secs cool down imo

PowerBottom.5796:

swinsk.6410:

I stopped playing mine in spvp because my burst has suffered a lot and I die to conditions way to easily. I hate dieing to conditions…

Warriors blow, IMO.

Ever heard of shouts + soldier-runes and Warhorn + Quick breathing?

And burst simply isn’t the War’s role anymore – it’s now Support and CC, which is actually quite fun to do and the War is godlike at it.

That build makes you less efficient in pvp because conditions can be reapplied quick while waiting on cool downs. If you really want to be supportive and also stay alive a bit longer then focus on Runes of Melandru. It not only reduces your conditions , but also being stunned is reduce too. You can still be burst, but you need more defense to stay alive. That’s why don’t limit yourself to just shout runes when we can be having these traits passively like other professions with the help of our weapon traits / skills.

This still won’t make warriors competitive, but it makes feel a bit better than being some fill in slot with handicaps.

Gmtsai.6349:

just curious lol only see Anastasis, Longbow Hero, and Kpop around now.

anyone still playing warrior??

Yes I only play warrior because I get bored with my other alts most of the time. I do not play the glass cannon type and I am also not a high tier Tpvp warrior either not that I do not see many warriors in general particpating playing Tpvp which is a rare sight.

SuperHaze.4210:

I tried a CC warrior build with hammer and axe/shield that does pretty well when I have support. It can keep someone locked down for a while, but I always need a dps to support me. Other than that, I haven’t found another viable build for tPvP so the warrior is in storage until the next update.

p.s. Banners are useless

I happen to play a banner build and it isn’t useless to me except when someone takes them when I need them for a node I’m trying to hold not that warriors make good bunkers anyway due to compassionate banner bug. I can also add Adrenal Health not stacking with Heal Power and Healing Signet sucks with the regen doesn’t keep me up much with the limited condition removers warriors have.

Here is a advice to warriors that play with banner builds. You don’t need more than 1 banner on your skill slot bar. If you happen to have more than one banner then you’re limited yourself on other useful skills to use. Only use a banner that focuses more on your build and think that can benefit your teammates.

If they made it a minor trait then I can expect a 50% chance the warrior will live when they kill their opponent. I say leave as it is because if they change it then they may make it worst than what I said in my first sentence.

GS rifle or GS / LB style woot!

Overall I do not like blind effect when you’re doing a AOE attack and it counts as a miss even though it is meant for more than one player it still misses instead of taking half damage / condition if. That coding probably be a pain to do because I’m not in the video game coding language industry.

/snort
good luck with that

zone.1073:

The beauty of GW2 is that it is actually 3 games in one. So, if a player happens to be a dou’che to his team and leaves mid-match, and they get tourney-banned for 2 hours, they can still enjoy hot join PvP, WvW, and PvE. They’ll just be barred from the most competitive aspect of the game temporarily.

Am I not merciful?

Nope, not at all no need for punishment due to d/c and bad latency. If a player decides to ragequit in a match then their lost is not being on that team anymore and they will have to find a new team or do not rage quit again. Now having it displayed on leaderboards how many times this player has ragequit would be priceless xD.

Now through spectator mode we can see if the player really did ragequit or got d/c. I think the Devs got the control of that data.

I can show you the world,….. shining, shimmering, splendid

Daecollo.9578:

Brutalistik.6473:

zone.1073:

1. I have no stun breaker.
2. I have no team utility.
3. No instant abilities (all prone to interruption).
4. I have only 1 condi cleanse, on a 45 second cooldown.
5. My healing signet heals for nothing.

Five reasons why that build doesn’t work. One for each signet!

Community realized this 3 hours into launch. 8 months later, devs are still using it. Hm..

You forgot Compassionate Banner tooltip bug. It doesn’t heal for the full amount. It only heals very minimum.

Signet of Rage should give Might every few seconds.
Signet of Dolyak should reduce damage
Healing Signet should be buffed to 460ish per second healing.
ect ect.

Signet Mastery should also improve the passive effect of signets.

and Adrenal Health should stack with heal power for those who wants to be bunker warriors.

zone.1073:

1. I have no stun breaker.
2. I have no team utility.
3. No instant abilities (all prone to interruption).
4. I have only 1 condi cleanse, on a 45 second cooldown.
5. My healing signet heals for nothing.

Five reasons why that build doesn’t work. One for each signet!

Community realized this 3 hours into launch. 8 months later, devs are still using it. Hm..

You forgot Compassionate Banner tooltip bug. It doesn’t heal for the full amount. It only heals very minimum.

JonathanSharp.7094:

Also yolo.

Don’t ever say that again!!! It is lame! ughh…

Julius.1094:

Linnes.2678:

Jon Peter’s thinks so too, just look at his great build.

The greatest irony of this post is that the OP’s ability line up is also god awful.

He’s a warrior why should he care? We are an unstoppable profession /cough

So let me get this straight….
They buff banners yet he’s using 5 signets?…..something is wrong here

I umm…ummm ehhh and here I thought charrs and Norns were compatible since norns like worship animal spirits and all. They also like to get rough, drunk and etc.

Leo G.4501:

Brutalistik.6473:

Why did you say bunkering isn’t for warriors?

I’m still asking where I said that. Implying doesn’t even mean the same thing although I wasn’t implying that either.

But then from recent interview posts with the devs, it seems how they apply balance, they take all modes of play into account, PvP, WvW and PvE. From how they (the devs) worded some of their answers, it may not be far from what the OP is asking for (that is, nerf some parts of Warrior performance to improve other parts).

As I said before that would be the destruction of the warrior profession. They have to nerf down their damage claiming that warriors can have insanely burst damage with every weapon just to get better traits. That’s a ludicrous deal, but the OP thinks it’s reasonable.

To improve warriors performance is definitely through defense than offense and you have to really play warriors consecutively to understand that view especially in where they are having trouble at.

• Spvp and mainly Tpvp

Then you will understand why I call them a fill in slot profession.

Leo G.4501:

Brutalistik.6473:

Leo G.4501:

Brutalistik.6473:

To say warriors are not to go for bunkering is saying they’re only for dps only.

Who said that?

That’s what you’re implying buddy.

That’s called ‘jumping to conclusions’.

Back when Daeco made a billion threads about improving Warrior sustain options, I was also posting ideas to help…until he started posting a billion more and I just gave up.

My focus is on Structured pvp in general. Why did you say bunkering isn’t for warriors? This may help out Anet to get an idea on how to make one instead leaving warriors as a fill in slot for pvp.

Leo G.4501:

Brutalistik.6473:

To say warriors are not to go for bunkering is saying they’re only for dps only.

Who said that?

That’s what you’re implying buddy.

I know what he wrote Leo and you got offended by his ranger comment. Why else would you go on the defense? To say warriors are not to go for bunkering is saying they’re only for dps only. That’s a waste of a heavy armor profession then. Why bother putting bunker traits and skills for them?. Sorry Anet can’t do a good job on making them bunkers when they can be.

Leo G.4501:

pot.6805:

miniL.7361:

Start with nerfing the bloody longbow, #3 skill blasts 10K hp easy with a nice build and even on hybrids. Now remove the aoe, or drop the damage and add that to the bloody ranger longbow who should have skills like that on a bloody bow!

Are rangers still crying for buffs? You do everything better then warrior currently, hell you even tank way better then warriors.

Wow are people really that dense?

Do everything better than Warrior? I guess that’s why people only want Warriors in their speed runs or why glass Rangers aren’t as good at sniping in WvW…because Warriors aren’t better at it?

Logic.

That’s not logic Leo that’s just you defending rangers because he said they’re better than warriors in most cases they are. What does WvW got to do with Spvp overall? That’s two different fields because a warrior can’t take on two players at once especially if they’re bunker warrior, glass and control. For a ranger they can take on 2 or possibly 3 as a bunker build or maybe 2 as glass. Still nothing compared to a necro, mesmer and engineer bunker.

Now that’s logic because I played those professions and also seen it in action. A bunker warrior however can mostly > own every other warrior build because it’s just a warrior nothing, but a fill in slot profession.

miniL.7361:

Start with nerfing the bloody longbow, #3 skill blasts 10K hp easy with a nice build and even on hybrids. Now remove the aoe, or drop the damage and add that to the bloody ranger longbow who should have skills like that on a bloody bow!

Your issue is defense on that issue and adding that skill to rangers going to nerf their playstyle. I say they should buff the range of warriors longbow instead of traiting for it.

Sprawl.3891:

Brutalistik.6473:

Laserbolt.6731:

No more solo queing tourneys for me!

I know! too many players in there goof around treating it like hot joins. Sucks man so premade is the only way to get good winning %.

because there is no in-game tutorial explaining the difference between hot join and ranked, there are probably a lot of people in game who don’t even know there are leaderboards that are just solo queuing for ranked because they hate hot join.

There are explanations how to do those games in pvp. It tells you at the start when you want enter the pvp zone for the first time. Tpvp and hot joins are the same mechanics, but just different atmosphere. The fact that we have too many players goofing around in Tpvp like in hotjoins is that they just rush through the introductions trials just to get some kills.

Perfect example… yesterday and my team won. 3 enemies chased me the whole entire match because I play a regen bunker warrior. It’s probably a rare sight you see some I guess and they ignored all nodes in their surroundings and buffs. That goes to tell they go for the kills more than nodes and this happens to me a lot in Tpvp now than before.

Solo queue rank Tpvp matches are okay, but ever since that was release we get all kind of casuals. The ones that want to learn and the ones that don’t. The ones that don’t just like in Spvp hot joins likes to keep fighting at one node for a straight 10minutes. Pretty boring…

Laserbolt.6731:

No more solo queing tourneys for me!

I know! too many players in there goof around treating it like hot joins. Sucks man so premade is the only way to get good winning %.

Even more raging lunatic noobs and on top of that AoE city. No thanks because then everyone ego stroke will be push to the top. Mesmers , Ele’s and maybe rangers will dominate in the AoE field while thieves and rangers dominates the 1 vs 1. Forget it this mode would suck and I can smell the kitty cat gameplay in it.

Larynx.2453:

Warriors are powerful in PvE because they do a lot of damage. Warriors in PvP do fine damage on static enemies.

You can buff warriors in PvP while having zero impact of PvE balance.

The PvE meta is as terrible as the PvP meta btw. It’s basically stack glass cannons and and zerg everything down. Great game ArenaNet.

I know where you’re coming from Larynx, but warriors don’t do fine in pvp overall. It’s a useless filler profession in that field and not much weapon choices to choose from. I really hope Jonathan Sharp and Karl really gives some info on what they want to do with that class than singing the same old poem. I like playing my warrior, but I hate the profession being the fill in slot role for pvp. A bunker warrior can’t kill a bunker ranger or take on 2 players at a time. It’s either stay and die or run to another safe node that’s empty. It’s frustration to those who play this profession in pvp unless that’s what Jonathan Sharp and Karl like to see Frustrated warrior players. Then you know warriors won’t get any good buffs because they would be unstoppable so they say.

As they say action speaks louder than words. The audience watches for the next reasonable build and if it’s still not good probably more would leave the game until they decide to drop the carrot on the stick act.

I know I put out some negative a bit, but come on already get with the program and make this profession viable in all ways instead of limited.

bhagwad.4281:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Bhagwad, look at the ranks of your team and then look back at your post.
By now you should know that your post has no sense or anything of that nature.

Low ranks are not stupid. Neither does it mean they can’t put up a good fight. I don’t mind losing. I mind losing when we could have easily done much better.

No Bhagwad why argue with him when he doesn’t realize sometimes high ranks players can be playing on low ranks accounts. That’s not rocket science…that’s playing subtle so no one knows who you truly are :P.

It can be beta players as well.

So is this bug going to be fix anytime soon or are they just going to ignore it?

From the looks of it you had children on the team and you was the only adult lols, but yeah I know your pain. It is sad when everyone who enters in Tpvp atmosphere treat it like a regular hotjoin instead of adapting.

I won some rounds because half of my opponent’s team was chasing me down while my team back capped their nodes. I guess they never seen a bunker regen warrior before and not that they heal much either because the banner of tactics burst heal is bugged, but its a rare sight to see that build often.

Daecollo.9578:

I am asking for them to nerf our burst damage, that way we will get good traits as compensation. Such as condition removal (minor.) or some protection.

That would be the destruction of the warrior profession and you know they wouldn’t nerf warriors alone. They would nerf all professions so they can balance out with each other.

I want to know when warriors will become FotM xD

Olba.5376:

Radburn.7569:

Turtle’s Defence – gain protection while stunned, chilled, crippled, knocked down ect.

Thick Skin – protection is up until you’re brought below 90% health. This would suit the name Thick skin much better.

Way overpowered.

10% of your HP, but since you’re only taking 33% of all damage, that means the enemies actually have to deal damage worth 30% of your HP. That plus the original 90% comes to a total of 120%. So you want a trait that gives the highest hp class in the game a +20% hp boost? For 5 points into a trait line? Are you nuts?

Not an overpowered trait boon at all especially to condition builds or skills / sigils that take boons away. If anything it’s making the warrior profession a hey hit me profession.

Gaining protection boon with the trait Turtle Defense while under those effects is okay, but I know it won’t be up all the time cause it’ll need a cool down so like every 15 or 30 seconds this can activate.

I sometimes get protection boon when I trait for warhorn specialty Quick breathing. It’s okay but it won’t make you immortal or anything. Just a few more seconds to live before you go down depending what warrior build you are.

This probably already been addressed or probably not, but I do want to know.

When the tranquility buff arrives in TOTSS the tornado skill for an elementalist or Engineer when borrowed. Is it okay for them to grab the buff using that ability or is it a bug. It is a cheap trick after all, but I want to know if that’s allowed or not.

Olba.5376:

Brutalistik.6473:

Those are long cool downs while other professions have it shorter due to passive traits or skills not relying on shout runes. That also limits warriors potential if they need a shout runes to get rid of conditions.

By traits, do you mean stuff like Purity? Because at worst, Purity means you’re forced to take 9 seconds of the condition before it gets removed. Same is true for the signets that have a passive removal.

If you want to talk good condition removal, look at Shadow’s Embrace. But the awesomeness is mostly due to Initiative, which at worst means taking 4 seconds of that condition damage.

And a random removal of conditions is far inferior to an on-cue removal.

Oh, and if you want to talk condition removal, go Quick Breathing with a Warhorn.

And honestly, I don’t think that using the Soldier runes is such a horrible, horrible thing. The damage that you can gain from your runes pales in comparison to the damage you can get from the rest of your gear..

As I said before it limits warriors potential so warriors are better off with some other profession cleansing their conditions because fighting against those professions that can apply it repeatedly makes our condition removal system useless. If they’re condition build that is.

I know what you’re saying, but that’s the warrior mechanic dealing with conditions overall. Having passive condition removal traits on top of warhorn weapon gives a helping hand for warriors.

Seveleniumus.5973:

Forestgreen.7981:

I would love if they made it so warrior’ burst skill grants condition immunity for 3 seconds since it’ll add alot of dynamic game plays around this rather than the current situation where all warriors just run around with full adrenaline bar.

Doing this gives the warrior good high and low threats rather than be a walking free kill when other classes just outsustain or perma chill/cripple them into oblivion.

Well you can use shouts + runes of soldier, that’s 3 condition removals you can get every ~25/30 secs (shake it off now removes 2 conditions) + another condition removal if you take that healing skill.

Those are long cool downs while other professions have it shorter due to passive traits or skills not relying on shout runes. That also limits warriors potential if they need a shout runes to get rid of conditions.

Daecollo.9578:

Brutalistik.6473:

Even with your ideas warriors will still go down quicker than thieves. What you’re asking for is the destruction of the warrior profession. It’s not going to happen, but I do agree with ya that warriors should have some defensive boons like a guardian instead of being a thief in heavy armor w/o stealth. I also would be appreciative if they gave bunker warriors more flavor than being a regen machine with not much passive condition removal skills.

I know greatsword weapon does a lot of damage only if you’re build for burst damage because if you aren’t. Hundred blades will hit like a wet noodle which means the warrior is gimping themselves.

Here’s a question for ya OP.
Do you really think warriors have high damage output using these weapons besides Main hand axe, Greatsword and Rifle?

• DW sword or MH sword/ shield or Offhand Axe
• DW mace or MH mace / shield or Offhand Axe
• Longbow
• Hammer

Yes or no and can they stay on their target under tough conditions?

There is no reason to use those weapons, because Greatsword/Axe/Shield overtops all of them, S MH is only good for mobility.

If that’s how you truly view it then carry on xD

Even with your ideas warriors will still go down quicker than thieves. What you’re asking for is the destruction of the warrior profession. It’s not going to happen, but I do agree with ya that warriors should have some defensive boons like a guardian instead of being a thief in heavy armor w/o stealth. I also would be appreciative if they gave bunker warriors more flavor than being a regen machine with not much passive condition removal skills.

I know greatsword weapon does a lot of damage only if you’re build for burst damage because if you aren’t. Hundred blades will hit like a wet noodle which means the warrior is gimping themselves.

Here’s a question for ya OP.
Do you really think warriors have high damage output using these weapons besides Main hand axe, Greatsword and Rifle?

• DW sword or MH sword/ shield or Offhand Axe
• DW mace or MH mace / shield or Offhand Axe
• Longbow
• Hammer

Yes or no and can they stay on their target under tough conditions?

Heck ya it’s useful especially when you’re being snipe or group is and you pull that sniper to where you’re at giving that sniper a bad day

Larynx.2453:

Jzaku.9765:

So it seems no top players play warrior, so we will never have a warrior main be invited to these SotGs, so we’ll never be able to tell Anet straight up how stupid their opinion on warrior being “very close to becoming an unstoppable beast” is

How depressing

Coming soon in this month’s SotG:

• Class descriptions!
• Stat buffs to inherently clunky and awful mechanics for pvp!
• Promises for new content “some time to the future that may or may not be, but most likely will, be closer to the present time”(!)
• 2 minute segments for the lowest tier pvp classes!

“How do you feel about warriors after the recent patch?”

“We think that the changes were a little over the top. To compensate, Frenzy now lasts 2 seconds longer.”

Warrior customer: Yeah that extra two seconds for frenzy skill on warriors is like saying come hit me I got the 50% damage taken damage on me for 2 more seconds woohoo. hahahah

I don’t use the frenzy skill at all because of that condition. It reminds me of the old Recklessness skill in WoW. Such a stupid mechanic to put for warriors no offense, but it’s really bad. My vision for frenzy skill

• It eats warriors boons to do extra damage than take damage.
• They can’t receive any boons until it wears off.

No Walking.6349:

Adaneshade.2409:

TESO’s PvP has been uncovered as a complete failure already.

Oh right, I totally forgot that there are people who can see into the future :/

This should of been /thread right here. The OP practically told himself or herself off haha

Rizzy.8293:

Seems like all the charr these days are the hunched back variety.

Even in Pyre’s warband there was an upright charr, he was a ritualist.

So what happened to them?

Ive only noticed those smokelord thingies and Gaheron Baelfire being the upright variety.

So what happened to them?

Not sitting correctly on the chair so it became a habit and that’s what become of them today.